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Upset of the Week (per ESPN):
Washington State over Kansas State, Friday: Kansas State is more physical and is probably a tougher team than Washington State. But Wazzu has a skilled scorer in Klay Thompson and two players -- Thompson and Faisal Aden -- averaging at least 23 points a game. If they can knock off K-State in this Big 12/Pac-10 Hardwood series game, the Cougars can send notice to the rest of the Pac-10 to take them seriously. Look, Washington State rarely gets a ranked nonconference team not named Gonzaga to come to Pullman. This is the Cougs' shot to make a name for themselves and the place will be rocking. Beating rival Gonzaga or even doing well in the Diamond Head Classic in late December won't resonate as much as a win over the Wildcats.
:eek:
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I bet we roll into Pullman and skullfuck them 8 ways from Sunday
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Remember when Klay Thompson was the next big thing in the Pac 10, then went 5-15 against us, and Wazzu went 6-12 in the Pac10?
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There isn't a school in the entire world I think about less than Washington State.
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There isn't a school in the entire world I think about less than Washington State.
Not even New Mexico?
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There isn't a school in the entire world I think about less than Washington State.
You realize Washington State is a clone of KSU right?
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i have a hard time considering any loss by a frank martin coached team an "upset".
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There isn't a school in the entire world I think about less than Washington State.
You realize Washington State is a clone of KSU right?
This, only they have more research $$ and a smarter fanbase. Spokane International is their KCI. I don't think they have :AA: in Pullman tho
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There isn't a school in the entire world I think about less than Washington State.
You realize Washington State is a clone of KSU right?
This, only they have more research $$ and a smarter fanbase. Spokane International is their KCI. I don't think they have :AA: in Pullman tho
Exactly. Their logo is totally derivative of ours, they have an uppity in-state rival with a track around their field.....Kazzu - Wazzu......might as well consider them a sister school.
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There isn't a school in the entire world I think about less than Washington State.
You realize Washington State is a clone of KSU right?
Fully aware. I should clarify and state that I was mainly speaking about their sports teams.
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thought this was going to be a thread about Wichita State on twitter
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Wichita State plays SDSU this week. Pretty tough non-con for those guys so far.
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i have a hard time considering any loss by a frank martin coached team an "upset".
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Will be able to compare Washington State to K-State and Pullman to Manhattan on Friday when I see the Cats for the first time live this year. Full comparison to come. All I know is former Michigan and Arizona State basketball coach Bill Frieder once called Pullman the "garbage dump" of the Pac 10 upon his first visit.
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I've been to Pullman and thought it was quite nice. Much better than western/coastal Wash. It was actually sunny in Pullman and didn't rain the entire time I was there!
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It definitely would suck to be a Cougs fan as they lose pretty much all the time in every sport. They do, however, have a pretty nice party scene going on with the University of Idaho being located less than ten miles away in Moscow. I worked with a couple guys who went to both and they both talked about combo-u parties being incredible.
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27-0 at the under 12 timeout.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/boxscore?gid=201011300632
:horrorsurprise:
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27-0 at the under 12 timeout.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/boxscore?gid=201011300632
:horrorsurprise:
:surprised:
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27-0 at the under 12 timeout.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/boxscore?gid=201011300632
:horrorsurprise:
:surprised:
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED
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Q@s by 15. Might as well play at Washburn or FHSU
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Wazzu's schedule would embarrass LHC Bill Snyder. :blank:
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Wazzu's schedule would embarrass LHC Bill Snyder. :blank:
and bill self...
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1) Saying WSU has played no one is an understatement; they have one of the worst SOSs of any BCS team in the country to this point.
2) They have a couple guys that can shoot. Thompson and JUCO transfer Aden are both 20 points scorers, hitting 37% and 42% from 3 respectively. They have no other guards that are shooting threats outside those two.
3) Their bigs are average, and one of their best bigs, Casto, will just be coming back from an injury. A couple (Motum and Simon) will step out and shoot threes.
4) Despite playing terrible teams, they are not a good Oboarding team, nor do they go to the FT line much. This would indicate they are jump shooting team, both inside and outside the arc. They are one of the best teams in the country at 2PT% and a solid 3PT%, but again most of that is two guys.
5) Hard to tell defensively based on who they played, but if last year is any indication teams shoot the ball well against them. They did a decent job of not allowing Oboards or allowing teams to get to the FT line, but they allowed EFG% of over 50%, teams shot well from both 2PT ad 3PT against them, and they don't force many steals.
This is a finesse Pac-10 team that if the Cats come to play at all we should beat comfortably. I really don't think they will be prepared for what we bring based on who they've played so far. The only worry is if we allow Thompson/Aden too many open looks OR if we get an officiating crew that calls the game really tight, but like I said, WSU hasn't shown to be a team that draws many fouls.
Cats 88 - Cougars 72
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27-0 at the under 12 timeout.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/boxscore?gid=201011300632
:horrorsurprise:
47% free throws :horrorsurprise:
They must be god awful! :runaway:
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There isn't a school in the entire world I think about less than Washington State.
You realize Washington State is a clone of KSU right?
Maybe if KSU was in Dodge City. Have you ever looked up Pullman, WA?
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Super Bowl (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=137&f=1996&t=6806206)
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We don't stand a chance. (http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=180252848657504)
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ETP's last two links may make me change my predicto, these guys seem really pumped to play us. Could be one of the most hostile crowds that Cat basketballers have ever witnessed.
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I'll be at the game supporting the Cats. Wife, kids, in laws and outlaw relatives here are all Cougs alums. :runaway: Unless Thompson goes ape we should beat these guys :grin: .
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We don't stand a chance. (http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=180252848657504)
Damn, nearly everyone has the Wazzu logo as their profile pic. These guys are super serious :ohno:
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We don't stand a chance. (http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=180252848657504)
:ck: :opcat:?
Okay, since there was a lot of mix up and confusion about the recently deleted event to black out Beasley, I decided to go straight to the source and ask some basketball players what they wanted. I have been givin' the thumbs up to WHITE OUT BEASLEY. Sooooo with that said, WHITE IT OUT!!!! The Cougs will be wearing their white jerseys as well. Again sorry for the confusion and lets live it up this weekend!
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did they name their gym after the greatest KSU player of all time? :surprised:
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did they name their gym after the greatest KSU player of all time? :surprised:
OR, do they not know that Beasely has left KSU? :dunno: Super confusing...
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did they name their gym after the greatest KSU player of all time? :surprised:
I think they did..
Gonzaga is a lot better than WSU. I think we roll.
:kstatriot: 74 Beasley Lovers 61
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We don't stand a chance. (http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=180252848657504)
They take their white outs seriously up there.
http://www.wunderground.com/US/WA/Pullman.html
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did they name their gym after the greatest KSU player of all time? :surprised:
Shawn Rhodes Arena?
Cougars are pussies. Wildcats by 10.
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I think this will be the best game going at 10pm CST on Friday Night. Chances are you won't remember much of it, win or lose.
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This is a finesse Pac-10 team that if the Cats come to play at all we should beat comfortably. I really don't think they will be prepared for what we bring based on who they've played so far. The only worry is if we allow Thompson/Aden too many open looks OR if we get an officiating crew that calls the game really tight, but like I said, WSU hasn't shown to be a team that draws many fouls.
Cats 88 - Cougars 72
I guessing we're in store for 195 minutes of basketball entertainment. I foresee 30+ team fouls for the Cats. It's the Pac-10 for gods sake.
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27-0 at the under 12 timeout.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/boxscore?gid=201011300632
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47% free throws :horrorsurprise:
They must be god awful! :runaway:
SSU shot 35%. Rumors are they were playing on one of these
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcache3.asset-cache.net%2Fxc%2F71918204.jpg%3Fv%3D1%26amp%3Bc%3DIWSAsset%26amp%3Bk%3D2%26amp%3Bd%3DAA1747D0965B1B3DEE00050EFEEE69E7BB6A11D576AAF468CEE62D4FBB761F95E30A760B0D811297&hash=97c3e8348b4b9d6dbc58ddd72c011ef7117f666e)
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We don't stand a chance. (http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=180252848657504)
They take their white outs seriously up there.
http://www.wunderground.com/US/WA/Pullman.html
this game could have a very Xavierish feel for the cats. we'll be right at home in their (our) white out. don't tell any wazzu fans, they might change colors on our punk asses.
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Rachel Michell Bedsworth
Why are we not doing a color that is actually our school colors??
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Jeffrey Pontious if we white out then its like the whole good vs evil thing... and plus we are home so our team is wearing white jurseys... it is to show support
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Early Line - PICK
Perhaps Vegas knows something we do not..
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http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog/_/name/katz_andy/id/5875540/end-big-12-pac-10-hurt-some-schools
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did they name their gym after the greatest KSU player of all time? :surprised:
And their town after our best current player? :surprised:
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Early Line - PICK
Perhaps Vegas knows something we do not..
:runaway: :ohno: :runaway: (ftp://:runaway: :ohno: :runaway:)
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I've really been looking forward to this game for a year,'' Bone said. "It can test you in so many ways. They're similar to Washington, and we need to be better against teams like that. I just wish we were going with healthy bodies. I've known about this game since I arrived here so I haven't experienced trying to get a home-and-home with an elite program. I'm assuming it's going to be very difficult based on the history of scheduling at Washington State. Those teams coming here are few and far between
Once again we are another schools Super Bowl.
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Early Line - PICK
Perhaps Vegas knows something we do not..
Isn't pretty much every computer model on the planet predicting a Washington State win? Maybe the goemawtards are the only ones not in the know. :ck:
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Bet Vegas hates setting lines on our games, what with the rampant eye hernias on our team.
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prob Visitor = 0.63
prob Home = 0.37
pace = 70
WINNER: Final Score
Kansas St. : 73
Washington St. : 68
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YES!!!!
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prob Visitor = 0.63
prob Home = 0.37
pace = 70
WINNER: Final Score
Kansas St. : 73
Washington St. : 68
:ksu:
I never really thought there was any significant chance the 'Cats might actually lose this game ... until now. :flush:
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prob Visitor = 0.63
prob Home = 0.37
pace = 70
WINNER: Final Score
Kansas St. : 73
Washington St. : 68
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you sonoffabitch.
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two words: fool's gold
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Ok, so I admit I didn't read all of this thread, but G D I am sick and tired of this team! I am so glad to know that my brothers from the west have issues with them as well! They are located in a crap town, and have a crap following. WSU's only redeeming fact is that they have Spangles!
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tilt-rotor.com%2FVT%2FSurvival%2F20041023_Spangles.JPG&hash=4c150a8e8cf1b33249533c6593f54ef3672710ad)
M-M-M-M-M-Mudslide!!!!!
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Ok, so I admit I didn't read all of this thread, but G D I am sick and tired of this team! I am so glad to know that my brothers from the west have issues with them as well! They are located in a crap town, and have a crap following. WSU's only redeeming fact is that they have Spangles!
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tilt-rotor.com%2FVT%2FSurvival%2F20041023_Spangles.JPG&hash=4c150a8e8cf1b33249533c6593f54ef3672710ad)
M-M-M-M-M-Mudslide!!!!!
What kind of hillbilly "restaurant" doesn't put lids on their drinks? Disgusting.
I am surprised it isn't in a jelly jar.
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WTF is the deal with the cups o' fries?
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What kind of hillbilly "restaurant" doesn't put lids on their drinks? Disgusting.
I am surprised it isn't in a jelly jar.
HOW DARE YOU SPEAK THAT WAY ABOUT WICHITA'S FINEST!!
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ken pomeroy.
Preemptive non-upset alert: Tomorrow's K-State/Wazzu game is a toss-up. Resist the urge to be stunned and/or shocked if Wazzu wins.
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ken pomeroy.
Preemptive non-upset alert: Tomorrow's K-State/Wazzu game is a toss-up. Resist the urge to be stunned and/or shocked if Wazzu wins.
thanks Kenneth. good warning 4 the lbbiq fan. but i already told my wife I wouldn't be shocked if we lost tomorrow night.
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ken pomeroy.
Preemptive non-upset alert: Tomorrow's K-State/Wazzu game is a toss-up. Resist the urge to be stunned and/or shocked if Wazzu wins.
His model also predicted Missouri at Oregon as the best game to watch of the night. :horrorsurprise:
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ken pomeroy.
Preemptive non-upset alert: Tomorrow's K-State/Wazzu game is a toss-up. Resist the urge to be stunned and/or shocked if Wazzu wins.
His model also predicted Missouri at Oregon as the best game to watch of the night. :horrorsurprise:
Nevermind?
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ken pomeroy.
Preemptive non-upset alert: Tomorrow's K-State/Wazzu game is a toss-up. Resist the urge to be stunned and/or shocked if Wazzu wins.
His model also predicted Missouri at Oregon as the best game to watch of the night. :horrorsurprise:
Says 'Cats 2-3 in next 5! Could drop game in Chicago too & fall right off the bubble. :horrorsurprise: :runaway: :zzz:
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Ok, so I admit I didn't read all of this thread, but G D I am sick and tired of this team! I am so glad to know that my brothers from the west have issues with them as well! They are located in a crap town, and have a crap following. WSU's only redeeming fact is that they have Spangles!
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tilt-rotor.com%2FVT%2FSurvival%2F20041023_Spangles.JPG&hash=4c150a8e8cf1b33249533c6593f54ef3672710ad)
M-M-M-M-M-Mudslide!!!!!
What kind of hillbilly "restaurant" doesn't put lids on their drinks? Disgusting.
I am surprised it isn't in a jelly jar.
What the eff is spangles?
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His model also predicted Missouri at Oregon as the best game to watch of the night. :horrorsurprise:
props to ol' kenneth once again.
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His model also predicted Missouri at Oregon as the best game to watch of the night. :horrorsurprise:
props to ol' kenneth once again.
I said never mind!
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ken pomeroy.
Preemptive non-upset alert: Tomorrow's K-State/Wazzu game is a toss-up. Resist the urge to be stunned and/or shocked if Wazzu wins.
:gocho:
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Why are we not doing a color that is actually our school colors??
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Jeffrey Pontious if we white out then its like the whole good vs evil thing... and plus we are home so our team is wearing white jurseys... it is to show support
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
OMG, are we really thought of as evil? :blush:
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ken pomeroy.
Preemptive non-upset alert: Tomorrow's K-State/Wazzu game is a toss-up. Resist the urge to be stunned and/or shocked if Wazzu wins.
kenpom is punishing us for not beating James Madison, Presby, and Texas Southern bad enough.
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Ok, so I admit I didn't read all of this thread, but G D I am sick and tired of this team! I am so glad to know that my brothers from the west have issues with them as well! They are located in a crap town, and have a crap following. WSU's only redeeming fact is that they have Spangles!
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tilt-rotor.com%2FVT%2FSurvival%2F20041023_Spangles.JPG&hash=4c150a8e8cf1b33249533c6593f54ef3672710ad)
M-M-M-M-M-Mudslide!!!!!
SPANGLES UPDATE: The giant trays have been replaced by baskets, which the fries are placed in. NO MORE CUPS! :horrorsurprise:
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Last time I went to spangles someone brought the food out to me. :surprised:
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Last time I went to spangles someone brought the food out to me. :surprised:
Disgusting.
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ken pomeroy.
Preemptive non-upset alert: Tomorrow's K-State/Wazzu game is a toss-up. Resist the urge to be stunned and/or shocked if Wazzu wins.
kenpom is punishing us for not beating James Madison, Presby, and Texas Southern bad enough.
...or maybe not overvaluing wins against mediocre vt and zag teams? :driving:
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ken pomeroy.
Preemptive non-upset alert: Tomorrow's K-State/Wazzu game is a toss-up. Resist the urge to be stunned and/or shocked if Wazzu wins.
kenpom is punishing us for not beating James Madison, Presby, and Texas Southern bad enough.
...or maybe not overvaluing wins against mediocre vt and zag teams? :driving:
Top 50 wins by 16 and 17 are still Top 50 wins by 16 and 17.
Not beating bad teams badly and not having great kenpom index numbers are what is hurting us now. The bad game against Presby is probably costing us the most in kenpom's system.
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(1st post, so sarcasm skills are lackng - please forgive)
Gonna be fun to watch this one - west coast refs like a polite game - could spell trouble for a hard-nosed team like our Catz, but our depth could negate that.
Here's an extremely accurate and incredibly insightful scouting report from a WSU site, cougcenter.com : http://www.cougcenter.com/2010/12/2/1851950/wsu-vs-kansas-state-scouting-the-ksu-wildcats
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btw - the only thing worse than the food at Spangles are their ridiculous commercials
E M A W y'all
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(1st post, so sarcasm skills are lackng - please forgive)
Gonna be fun to watch this one - west coast refs like a polite game - could spell trouble for a hard-nosed team like our Catz, but our depth could negate that.
Here's an interesting "scouting report" from a WSU site, cougcenter.com : http://www.cougcenter.com/2010/12/2/1851950/wsu-vs-kansas-state-scouting-the-ksu-wildcats
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btw - the only thing worse than the food at Spangles are their ridiculous commercials
E M A W y'all
Why is scouting report in ""?
That was really well done, pretty good analysis.
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(1st post, so sarcasm skills are lackng - please forgive)
Gonna be fun to watch this one - west coast refs like a polite game - could spell trouble for a hard-nosed team like our Catz, but our depth could negate that.
Here's an extremely accurate and incredibly insightful scouting report from a WSU site, cougcenter.com : http://www.cougcenter.com/2010/12/2/1851950/wsu-vs-kansas-state-scouting-the-ksu-wildcats
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btw - the only thing worse than the food at Spangles are their ridiculous commercials
E M A W y'all
...there ya go Chief, we good now?
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I was feeling good about this game until now.
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(1st post, so sarcasm skills are lackng - please forgive)
Gonna be fun to watch this one - west coast refs like a polite game - could spell trouble for a hard-nosed team like our Catz, but our depth could negate that.
Here's an extremely accurate and incredibly insightful scouting report from a WSU site, cougcenter.com : http://www.cougcenter.com/2010/12/2/1851950/wsu-vs-kansas-state-scouting-the-ksu-wildcats
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btw - the only thing worse than the food at Spangles are their ridiculous commercials
E M A W y'all
Third, penetration is paramount.
Heh, penetration.
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...there ya go Chief, we good now?
Yeah. I take it you don't that was a very good scouting report? :ck:
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it's coming and there's just nothing we can do about it (except make headlines)
Cougars turn Cats into Kittens
Wazzou throttles KSU, 82-68.
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Spraddled!
Freshman point guard's five 3's propel Cats past Cougars.
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Spraddled!
Freshman point guard's five 3's propel Cats past Cougars.
I can only hope that being Spraddled involves some serious tea-bagging.
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thanks for the link da_.
very HBBIQ analysis of the KSU defensive philosophy. i wish i could write like that.
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Second, this is a game where the midrange jumper could play a huge role. The Cougs have proved exceptionally adept at that shot this year with Thompson and Faisal Aden leading the way. With great pressure on the perimeter and shot blockers waiting around the basket, the 15-footer can be a powerful weapon.
:emawkid:
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They play a fun brand of basketball to watch.
this should shut up some of the critics.
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This is a game the Cougs can win. But they're going to have to do some things we know they can do but maybe haven't shown enough of this year to do it. Honestly? I think their best chance rests in the referees calling a tight game. If they can get K-State out of what they do best -- fluster their opponents by harassing them physically -- much of KSU's physical advantage melts away, as many of their players aren't particularly skilled.
i can almost guarantee the refs will call it tight. fudge
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They play a fun brand of basketball to watch.
this should shut up some of the critics.
gasaway :curse:
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In fact, when KSU's guards penetrate, they often will just throw it up in the hopes that a rebounder is left unboxed (is that a word?) out when the weakside help rotates to contain penetration
He has described the JYC assist perfectly :woot:
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WILL POWER!!!
KSU Frosh wills his team to a win!
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SMOOTH SLEDDING
Pullen, Cats handle road trip to snowy Pullman with ease.
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How fitting that KU plays UCLA, the most tradition rich program in the Pac 10, while K-State plays Washington State.
:lol:
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Spradiddlyumptious!
Freshman's peach of a game feeds Cats' on way to win
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How fitting that KU plays UCLA, the most tradition rich program in the Pac 10, while K-State plays Washington State.
:lol:
Mike DeCourcy, of Sporting News fame, was on the air with 810 yesterday morning....said that KU should easily win because of how terrible UCLA was...went on and on about how terrible UCLA was. True story. go cats
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How fitting that KU plays UCLA, the most tradition rich program in the Pac 10, while K-State plays Washington State.
:lol:
Plus UCLA is a lock for the final four this year, especially the way they played in the PHOG!! You win this one KU.
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Spradiator
Freshman with boyishly good looks stabs Cougars
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IN THE ZONE
Cats overcome early foul trouble with impressive zone defense
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Ain't No Eats!!!:
Bad Food and Good Basketball!
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Take that kenpom! http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/seth_davis/12/03/weekend.picks/index.html?eref=sihp
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:pbj: :kstatriot: :pbj:
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How fitting that KU plays UCLA, the most tradition rich program in the Pac 10, while K-State plays Washington State.
:lol:
Are you guys going to play any ranked teams this non-conference, or just teams with rich tradition? (Longwood!!)
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El Nino Hits Pullman
80 Degrees and Sunny in December
Also, Nino Williams Plays Pretty Well For Kansas State Against WSU
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How fitting that KU plays UCLA, the most tradition rich program in the Pac 10, while K-State plays Washington State.
:lol:
Are you guys going to play any ranked teams this non-conference, or just teams with rich tradition? (Longwood!!)
:facepalm:
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El Nino Hits Pullman
80 Degrees and Sunny in December
Also, Nino Williams Plays Pretty Well For Kansas State Against WSU
:lol:
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How fitting that KU plays UCLA, the most tradition rich program in the Pac 10, while K-State plays Washington State.
:lol:
Are you guys going to play any ranked teams this non-conference, or just teams with rich tradition? (Longwood!!)
:facepalm:
jtksu gets it
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How fitting that KU plays UCLA, the most tradition rich program in the Pac 10, while K-State plays Washington State.
:lol:
Embarassing for the conference how ku has to get bailed out by the refs at home while mu and K-State are going and playing west coast road games in the middle of the night.
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Listening to Matt Figger give the scout.
starting to finally feel confident about this one. tgf6f.
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Another Denis-like teardrop floater from Pullen, I won't be able to hold back the tears.
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Doc, heat check, spradler. :gocho:
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Jake: Frank settle down we're alright
Frank: (being restrained) Jake, shut the eff up, alright here is what I want...woa woa what did you say Curt?
Curt: I said get me the fuckin' ball on the block!
from 1st half timeout/ WSU :excited:
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F U Ken Pom.
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...there ya go Chief, we good now?
Yeah. I take it you don't that was a very good scouting report? :ck:
Always thought it was pretty good, it provided me with insight heading into this contest. WASN'T trying to impune it - quotes weren't sarcastic, merely referential - WAS tryin to have fun with reply, though.
Cheers....and, E M A W y'all! :cheers: