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General Discussion => Essentially Flyertalk => Topic started by: KITNfury on November 26, 2010, 09:39:39 AM
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Need a little help if there are.
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what do you need?
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This oughta get good... :popcorn:
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what do you need?
Pic below. Long story short, I plan to take out a post beneath my center beam in my basement. I've already put another identical beam next to the old one. I've done the calculations to show that it's more than strong enough, so I feel pretty good that the city will accept that. There's a 3 foot gap between the new wood post/column and the nearest existing column. The inspector said that I need to provide plans for this and hope it passes or provide a stamped letter from a Kansas licensed PE structural engg. Since I'm confident that the I can get the beam to pass, I'm hoping that a Structural Engg will say that I don't have to put a footing under the wood post.
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Wood Column
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I would say there is a 50% chance that passes inspection and a 50% chance that your house collapses within a few months.
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yeah, I'd get an inspector out there.
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Probably best to sell that house and buy one with the beams and posts in the places you want. Maybe get non-pink posts and beams in the new place too? :dunno:
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I've had an inspector out here. LHomeImprovementIQ people please stay out. I'm looking at you cire, jt, and Trim.
EDIT: Added Trim.
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Wouldn't worry about it. That beam looks totally decorative. Yank the rough rider out entirely.
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I've had an inspector out here. LHomeImprovementIQ people please stay out. I'm looking at you cire, jt, and Trim.
EDIT: Added Trim.
so what's the problem? didn't he tell you what to do?
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I've had an inspector out here. LHomeImprovementIQ people please stay out. I'm looking at you cire, jt, and Trim.
EDIT: Added Trim.
Your answer can probably be found somewhere in here: http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=627.0
I can only surmise that the insight displayed in that thread is what led you to ask your question to the goEMAW constituency.
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Timelife has a neat series of DIY books. Maybe you could check some out at your local library? They have pictures and everything.
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I've had an inspector out here. LHomeImprovementIQ people please stay out. I'm looking at you cire, jt, and Trim.
EDIT: Added Trim.
so what's the problem? didn't he tell you what to do?
You're overestimating what city inspectors do. They make sure that the basics are right. They aren't engineers.
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I've had an inspector out here. LHomeImprovementIQ people please stay out. I'm looking at you cire, jt, and Trim.
EDIT: Added Trim.
Your answer can probably be found somewhere in here: http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=627.0
I can only surmise that the insight displayed in that thread is what led you to ask your question to the goEMAW constituency.
Didn't read. Not going to.
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why are you adding a second beam? one not enough?
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I've had an inspector out here. LHomeImprovementIQ people please stay out. I'm looking at you cire, jt, and Trim.
EDIT: Added Trim.
Your answer can probably be found somewhere in here: http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=627.0
I can only surmise that the insight displayed in that thread is what led you to ask your question to the goEMAW constituency.
Didn't read. Not going to.
Then you deserve for your project to fail, squawk.
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More info on the joists will be required to solve this doozy...
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why are you adding a second beam? one not enough?
I actually didn't have to. I initially did the calculations as if it were a simply supported beam on two ends. In that scenario, it would need 2. In actuality, it's a beam that is essentially cantilevered on both ends. When calculating it that way, one beam would be enough. I figured for $150, it's good to be on the safe side and add the other beam. So the beam shouldn't be an issue. The city, if you're not going to have it ok'd by a PE, says you need a 12" footing beneath new posts. That would mean I'd need to pull the post out and put the footing in. Not impossible by any means, but if I can get a PE (KSU grad doing another KSU grad a favor) to write a letter saying it's ok, then I wouldn't have to cut concrete out and put the footing in.
If all this was covered in SDs thread let me know and I'll check it out.
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More info on the joists will be required to solve this doozy...
Not if I already know how much force the beam(s) carry.
94.2 lbs/L-in
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why are you adding a second beam? one not enough?
I actually didn't have to. I initially did the calculations as if it were a simply supported beam on two ends. In that scenario, it would need 2. In actuality, it's a beam that is essentially cantilevered on both ends. When calculating it that way, one beam would be enough. I figured for $150, it's good to be on the safe side and add the other beam. So the beam shouldn't be an issue. The city, if you're not going to have it ok'd by a PE, says you need a 12" footing beneath new posts. That would mean I'd need to pull the post out and put the footing in. Not impossible by any means, but if I can get a PE (KSU grad doing another KSU grad a favor) to write a letter saying it's ok, then I wouldn't have to cut concrete out and put the footing in.
If all this was covered in SDs thread let me know and I'll check it out.
I once built a tower with an Erector set and have had a few beers. Do I qualify for writing a letter to the city?
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Next question, what are you planning on storing in your columns?
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why are you adding a second beam? one not enough?
I actually didn't have to. I initially did the calculations as if it were a simply supported beam on two ends. In that scenario, it would need 2. In actuality, it's a beam that is essentially cantilevered on both ends. When calculating it that way, one beam would be enough. I figured for $150, it's good to be on the safe side and add the other beam. So the beam shouldn't be an issue. The city, if you're not going to have it ok'd by a PE, says you need a 12" footing beneath new posts. That would mean I'd need to pull the post out and put the footing in. Not impossible by any means, but if I can get a PE (KSU grad doing another KSU grad a favor) to write a letter saying it's ok, then I wouldn't have to cut concrete out and put the footing in.
If all this was covered in SDs thread let me know and I'll check it out.
I once built a tower with an Erector set and have had a few beers. Do I qualify for writing a letter to the city?
Prolly
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Next question, what are you planning on storing in your columns?
What do you mean, like cocaine?
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Next question, what are you planning on storing in your columns?
What do you mean, like cocaine?
Potentially, though if you have that amount of cocaine, I'd hire some people to do it for you. Probably Mennonites if they're available. I would store Legos in mine.
On a seperate note, I could build the whole support for you out of Legos. I am not a practicing Mennonite but I come from Mennonite roots. Also provided in my bid, a letter from someone with "qualifications" saying this type of thing is safe. And Legos would be a pretty solid cover for hiding cocaine. When people come to murder you and your family, they would assume the Legos are kids toys and not the best hiding place ever.
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you're going to need to submit your calcs here for full approval.
surprised the AHJ was willing to see them without a PE seal. Where you from? SEK? lol.
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That whole effing rat trap is coming down.
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I'm not a PE, but ended up with a CNSM degree after 2 years in ARE. Without doing the calcs, I'm trusting that you did them properly.
The downfall of your predicament is that no PE is going to assume liability without compensation. Even amongst friends, the liability is too high, and if their O&E insurer ever found out, it'd be akin to medical malpractice.
Your best bet is to find a local independent engineer, someone not working for a large firm, and get them to write the letter to the LAHJ for a couple hundred bucks at most. Consider it insurance just like your extra beam.
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I'm not a PE, but ended up with a CNSM degree after 2 years in ARE. Without doing the calcs, I'm trusting that you did them properly.
The downfall of your predicament is that no PE is going to assume liability without compensation. Even amongst friends, the liability is too high, and if their O&E insurer ever found out, it'd be akin to medical malpractice.
Your best bet is to find a local independent engineer, someone not working for a large firm, and get them to write the letter to the LAHJ for a couple hundred bucks at most. Consider it insurance just like your extra beam.
This.
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Question, is this where you're going to live when your wife finds out what a dumbass do-it-yourselfer you are?
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Question, is this where you're going to live when your wife finds out what a dumbass do-it-yourselfer you are?
I'll be aight
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I would suggest just hiring someone to build a whole new house just how you like it. That was ultimately the solution to the 6 page finish a basement thread.
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My next house(the perfect one) will not have a basement.
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My next house(the perfect one) will not have a basement.
sounds like a shitty house
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My next house(the perfect one) will not have a basement.
sounds like a cacty house
Out door living. Gonna do an outdoor living room and cooking area. The kind with a roof, but at least one open wall(maybe operable).
Basements suck.
Master bed walls will be concrete so that it will be the tornado room.
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My next house(the perfect one) will not have a basement.
sounds like a cacty house
Out door living. Gonna do an outdoor living room and cooking area. The kind with a roof, but at least one open wall(maybe operable).
Basements suck.
Master bed walls will be concrete so that it will be the tornado room.
wow, it gets worse everytime you talk about it. why don't you just live in a igloo if you love shitty houses so much?
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The concrete walls will have drywall finishes and look just like a normal wall.
The out door stuff will be in addition to the normal in door stuff.
Just no basement.
Gonna be great.
Basements are for losers who like smelling musty.
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The concrete walls will have drywall finishes and look just like a normal wall.
The out door stuff will be in addition to the normal in door stuff.
Just no basement.
Gonna be great.
Basements are for losers who like smelling musty.
your penguin girlfriend will love your igloo
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Sounds like you want to live in a condemned warehouse. "That 3rd wall didn't fall down, we opened up the floorplan because we don't have a basement and I am Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)."
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Sounds like you want to live in a condemned warehouse. "That 3rd wall didn't fall down, we opened up the floorplan because we don't have a basement and I am Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)."
Your log cabin must be nice.
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The concrete walls will have drywall finishes and look just like a normal wall.
The out door stuff will be in addition to the normal in door stuff.
Just no basement.
Gonna be great.
Basements are for losers who like smelling musty.
I was planning on crashing in sd's basement for CWS/NCAA Omaha trips. Would I have to sleep outside if I ever stayed at your house?
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The concrete walls will have drywall finishes and look just like a normal wall.
The out door stuff will be in addition to the normal in door stuff.
Just no basement.
Gonna be great.
Basements are for losers who like smelling musty.
I was planning on crashing in sd's basement for CWS/NCAA Omaha trips. Would I have to sleep outside if I ever stayed at your house?
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The concrete walls will have drywall finishes and look just like a normal wall.
The out door stuff will be in addition to the normal in door stuff.
Just no basement.
Gonna be great.
Basements are for losers who like smelling musty.
I was planning on crashing in sd's basement for CWS/NCAA Omaha trips. Would I have to sleep outside if I ever stayed at your house?
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Your whole setup seems pretty damn cheap for a brain surgeon.
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The concrete walls will have drywall finishes and look just like a normal wall.
The out door stuff will be in addition to the normal in door stuff.
Just no basement.
Gonna be great.
Basements are for losers who like smelling musty.
I was planning on crashing in sd's basement for CWS/NCAA Omaha trips. Would I have to sleep outside if I ever stayed at your house?
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Your whole setup seems pretty damn cheap for a brain surgeon.
That is just the guest room.
wife and I are thinking more like the below for our outdoor areas:
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Needs a center pillar.
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cns, you seem to be missing at least 3 of your walls
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Where can you build this house that is nice enough most the year for an outdoor room, yet you fear tornadoes?
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Where can you build this house that is nice enough most the year for an outdoor room, yet you fear tornadoes?
That looks like the Ft. Riley hill. It's gonna be loud as eff in the outdoor room when they start shooting off tanks.
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Where can you build this house that is nice enough most the year for an outdoor room, yet you fear tornadoes?
Unfortunately Google Image doesn't contain a fully similar example of what I want.
I live in N.E. KS.
Note: I am thinking about an operable wall so that the room can be sealed during the shitty months. Also, we will have the normal indoor rooms, just no basement.
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Where can you build this house that is nice enough most the year for an outdoor room, yet you fear tornadoes?
Unfortunately Google Image doesn't contain a fully similar example of what I want.
I live in N.E. KS.
Note: I am thinking about an operable wall so that the room can be sealed during the shitty months. Also, we will have the normal indoor rooms, just no basement.
why not do this but also have a basement? :dunno:
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Where can you build this house that is nice enough most the year for an outdoor room, yet you fear tornadoes?
Unfortunately Google Image doesn't contain a fully similar example of what I want.
I live in N.E. KS.
Note: I am thinking about an operable wall so that the room can be sealed during the cacty months. Also, we will have the normal indoor rooms, just no basement.
why not do this but also have a basement? :dunno:
1. as noted above, basements are for losers who like to smell musty
2. cost of outdoor room offset by not building basement
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You sound very dumb. I assume you have full-blown Down's?
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You sound very dumb. I assume you have full-blown Down's?
JT, I am sure your basement is very nice and a has a very tolerable amount of musty stank.
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Just cause you grew up in some shithole with a mildewy basement doesn't mean every basement is like that. Maybe if your dad had spent less time beating your stepmom she should would have had more time to clean. :dunno:
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Q: What happens when you dig a hole in the ground and it rains.
A: Water tries to get in.
Q: What happens when it rains and you are sitting outside underneath a roof with a warm fire?
A: Relaxation
Outdoor room - 1
Basement/domestic abuse refuge - 0
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Q: What happens when you dig a hole in the ground and it rains.
A: Water tries to get in.
Q: What happens when it rains and you are sitting outside underneath a roof with a warm fire?
A: Relaxation
Outdoor room - 1
Basement/domestic abuse refuge - 0
Mosquitoes. I win.
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Q: What happens when you dig a hole in the ground and it rains.
A: Water tries to get in.
Q: What happens when it rains and you are sitting outside underneath a roof with a warm fire?
A: Relaxation
Outdoor room - 1
Basement/domestic abuse refuge - 0
Mosquitoes. I win.
Mosquito nets.
Pfft.
There is a lot of out door living room haters on in this thread.
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Positive drainage is a wonderful thing.
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Q: What happens when you dig a hole in the ground and it rains.
A: Water tries to get in.
Q: What happens when it rains and you are sitting outside underneath a roof with a warm fire?
A: Relaxation
Outdoor room - 1
Basement/domestic abuse refuge - 0
Mosquitoes. I win.
Mosquito nets.
Pfft.
There is a lot of out door living room haters on in this thread.
Way to trash up your new outdoor space and lower property values. Mancave that's good for all seasons >>> shitty outdoor space good for spring/fall only.
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Flatscreen, beer fridge, and surround sound>>>>>>stupid outdoor view
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Q: What happens when you dig a hole in the ground and it rains.
A: Water tries to get in.
Q: What happens when it rains and you are sitting outside underneath a roof with a warm fire?
A: Relaxation
Outdoor room - 1
Basement/domestic abuse refuge - 0
Mosquitoes. I win.
Mosquito nets.
Pfft.
There is a lot of out door living room haters on in this thread.
Way to trash up your new outdoor space and lower property values. Mancave that's good for all seasons >>> cacty outdoor space good for spring/fall only.
OPERABLE PANELS!!!
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Flatscreen, beer fridge, and surround sound>>>>>>stupid outdoor view
dude, I can get all that for my outdoor room, and plan to.
cool stuff n00bs in full force today.
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Have fun watching MNF out there. I'll be toasty warm in my basement, lol'ing at you.
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Have fun watching MNF out there. I'll be toasty warm in my basement, lol'ing at you.
FIRE PLACE!!!!!
Not like I plan on having a one room out door house. Read above, if I get uncomfy in my bad ass outdoor room, I can go inside still. Why is this hard?
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I'm also having a hard time with your tornado safety concrete bedroom. To be a bedroom, don't you need an egress? Wouldn't that make it less than ideal for a tornado?
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I'm also having a hard time with your tornado safety concrete bedroom. To be a bedroom, don't you need an egress? Wouldn't that make it less than ideal for a tornado?
Heavy door that can latch in multiple spots along the jamb in case of storm. Same method used for building a tornado room in the basement. Concrete walls, concrete lid(yes you can vault concrete too), steel door with 4 secured latch points. Concrete walls can be furred out and have drywall on them(same with ceilings), steel doors can be vaneered with wood. Will make for an ultra quite room as well as a shelter.
While you basement dorks are sitting under some incorrectly installed secondary beam wishing it was all over, I can be watching Katie Horner on my flat screen while sitting in bed and the storm can stay as long as it feels like it needs to.
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Flatscreen, beer fridge, and surround sound>>>>>>stupid outdoor view
dude, I can get all that for my outdoor room, and plan to.
cool stuff n00bs in full force today.
Needed items for a free flat screen and beer = Swiss army knife. :cheese:
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I'm also having a hard time with your tornado safety concrete bedroom. To be a bedroom, don't you need an egress? Wouldn't that make it less than ideal for a tornado?
Heavy door that can latch in multiple spots along the jamb in case of storm. Same method used for building a tornado room in the basement. Concrete walls, concrete lid(yes you can vault concrete too), steel door with 4 secured latch points. Concrete walls can be furred out and have drywall on them(same with ceilings), steel doors can be vaneered with wood. Will make for an ultra quite room as well as a shelter.
While you basement dorks are sitting under some incorrectly installed secondary beam wishing it was all over, I can be watching Katie Horner on my flat screen while sitting in bed and the storm can stay as long as it feels like it needs to.
Good luck finding a space to hang your flat screen with all your walls covered in doors to bathroom/hallway/outside.
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Wow, CNS made this thread a lot better.
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I'm also having a hard time with your tornado safety concrete bedroom. To be a bedroom, don't you need an egress? Wouldn't that make it less than ideal for a tornado?
Heavy door that can latch in multiple spots along the jamb in case of storm. Same method used for building a tornado room in the basement. Concrete walls, concrete lid(yes you can vault concrete too), steel door with 4 secured latch points. Concrete walls can be furred out and have drywall on them(same with ceilings), steel doors can be vaneered with wood. Will make for an ultra quite room as well as a shelter.
While you basement dorks are sitting under some incorrectly installed secondary beam wishing it was all over, I can be watching Katie Horner on my flat screen while sitting in bed and the storm can stay as long as it feels like it needs to.
Good luck finding a space to hang your flat screen with all your walls covered in doors to bathroom/hallway/outside.
Concrete one big rectangle. Inside that, frame in your bathroom and closet. Only reinforce door is the one to leave your bedroom to the rest of the house.
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Flatscreen, beer fridge, and surround sound>>>>>>stupid outdoor view
dude, I can get all that for my outdoor room, and plan to.
cool stuff n00bs in full force today.
Needed items for a free flat screen and beer = Swiss army knife. :cheese:
OPERABLE PANELS!!!!!!
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You should built this thing somewhere with nice weather and no tornados.
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You should built this thing somewhere with nice weather and no tornados.
What if I just keep it in KS and buy a couple fans? :dunno:
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You should built this thing somewhere with nice weather and no tornados.
What if I just keep it in KS and buy a couple fans? :dunno:
Add some tv trays and you'd have the KS version of doom's nebraska log cabin cave.
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Let me get this straight- you actually want to build a giant concrete box and live in it, while also attaching 3/4 of a concrete box to the back so you can watch TV in the snow? (And also in the 110 degree summers!) Yep, this is officially the most Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) idea ever. Retards read this thread and think: "Jesus effing Christ this [redacted] is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)."
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You should built this thing somewhere with nice weather and no tornados.
What if I just keep it in KS and buy a couple fans? :dunno:
Add some tv trays and you'd have the KS version of doom's nebraska log cabin cave.
....but with fresh air, natural light, and I never have to worry about any one calling it a man cave(hate that).
Also, TV trays are wildly underrated.
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Let me get this straight- you actually want to build a giant concrete box and live in it, while also attaching 3/4 of a concrete box to the back so you can watch TV in the snow? (And also in the 110 degree summers!) Yep, this is officially the most Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) idea ever. Retards read this thread and think: "Jesus effing Christ this mothereffer is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)."
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First of all, no. I don't want my outdoor room to be concrete walled. Just my bedroom area, and again, it will be finished so that it looks just like any other interior normal wall.
Second of all, have you ever heard of a masonry(brick or stone) building? All said and done, it is pretty much the same concept.
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....but with fresh air, natural light, and I never have to worry about any one calling it a man cave(hate that).
Also, TV trays are wildly underrated.
You should probably be drinking something nicer with all that money you saved by not building a life saving tornado room.
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The whole house is a tornado room cause it's a giant concrete box!!! I'm just glad he's building it in joco, I wouldn't want that ugly ass house raping my property value.
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The whole house is a tornado room cause it's a giant concrete box!!! I'm just glad he's building it in joco, I wouldn't want that ugly ass house raping my property value.
Not in JoCo. LvCo.
It will be glorious.
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If you ever need some extra bucks, you can rent out some of your concrete rooms to the prison.
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How did I miss all of this..... :users:
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CNS- check out nanowalls. They're rough ridin' bad ass.
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I'm also having a hard time with your tornado safety concrete bedroom. To be a bedroom, don't you need an egress? Wouldn't that make it less than ideal for a tornado?
Heavy door that can latch in multiple spots along the jamb in case of storm. Same method used for building a tornado room in the basement. Concrete walls, concrete lid(yes you can vault concrete too), steel door with 4 secured latch points. Concrete walls can be furred out and have drywall on them(same with ceilings), steel doors can be vaneered with wood. Will make for an ultra quite room as well as a shelter.
While you basement dorks are sitting under some incorrectly installed secondary beam wishing it was all over, I can be watching Katie Horner on my flat screen while sitting in bed and the storm can stay as long as it feels like it needs to.
Some day, a future Howard Carter is going to dig up CNS Casey's bedroom and discover his corpse oriented toward the flat screen and deduce that CNS was the ancient Emperor of Kansas, buried in his royal tomb with his most valued possession, the flat screen device he used to communicate with his goddess Qu'Atey Hor Nar.
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CNS- check out nanowalls. They're effing bad ass.
This is very similar to what I had in mind. I have a vendor that I work with on other products that has a similar system only instead of hinging off of each, they operate like a panelized divider wall(individual panels that stack when stored, but track next to each other and seal when closed).
Thanks for the heads up. They look awesome.
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How did I miss all of this..... :users:
Thoughts?
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CNS, you sound rich. This makes me not like you.
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CNS, you sound rich. This makes me not like you.
Not at all, just planning ahead. Wife and I have decided not to move, as we previously planned this year. This means we stay in our house(our first) so we can buy land/pay it off, and stock pile money to get what we want. The house won't be big at all, but it will have the things we want so that we can stay there until we are unable to maintain it.
The wife and I do alright, but this is just long term planning here, guys.
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CNS- check out nanowalls. They're effing bad ass.
This is very similar to what I had in mind. I have a vendor that I work with on other products that has a similar system only instead of hinging off of each, they operate like a panelized divider wall(individual panels that stack when stored, but track next to each other and seal when closed).
Thanks for the heads up. They look awesome.
KI?
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Rich people are cool.
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CNS- check out nanowalls. They're effing bad ass.
This is very similar to what I had in mind. I have a vendor that I work with on other products that has a similar system only instead of hinging off of each, they operate like a panelized divider wall(individual panels that stack when stored, but track next to each other and seal when closed).
Thanks for the heads up. They look awesome.
KI?
wut? :confused:
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CNS- check out nanowalls. They're effing bad ass.
This is very similar to what I had in mind. I have a vendor that I work with on other products that has a similar system only instead of hinging off of each, they operate like a panelized divider wall(individual panels that stack when stored, but track next to each other and seal when closed).
Thanks for the heads up. They look awesome.
KI?
wut? :confused:
KI makes a stackable glass wall panel product, looks very nice. Collapses on itsself.
http://ki.com/genius_wall/
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Sounds like a wall you find in a banquet facility when separating rooms. Those are usually pretty shitty. I guess if your dream ends at a shitty house, at least they are achievable.
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Dude doesn't want a glass house, he wants a concrete house. Just how tornado-proof do you think a glass house would be? Also, everyone would be able to see him dropping douces and banging his wife, basically like the ape exhibit at the zoo.
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Dude doesn't want a glass house, he wants a concrete house. Just how tornado-proof do you think a glass house would be? Also, everyone would be able to see him dropping douces and banging his wife, basically like the ape exhibit at the zoo.
I like to think of it more as an awesomeness aquarium.
Lots of banquet wall n00bs out today.
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http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/369696/january-03-2011/sign-off---home-improvement-tip
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cns casey, i support your housing concept. sorry i got to your thread so late.