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Title: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 19, 2010, 09:45:24 AM
 :drink:  <---But with something fluorescent and horrible tasting that gets you shitfaced for like two bones.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: michigancat on November 19, 2010, 09:59:27 AM
Banning the stuff is one of the dumbest rough ridin' things ever.  Never tried it, but I want to just because everyone wants to ban it.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 19, 2010, 10:00:44 AM
4Loko makes me really wish I was still in college.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 19, 2010, 10:09:25 AM
crap. i don't even know what it is. 2010 cisco?
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: Brock Landers on November 19, 2010, 11:37:49 AM
No they should not be banning it.  I have never tried the stuff but I'm pretty sure it could be called Douche Fuel.

But I kinda want to try it anyway.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: CNS on November 19, 2010, 11:44:30 AM
Isn't pretty much the same thing as drinking Red Bull with a crap load of vodka in it?   :dunno:

Banning it will only make people buy other things that accomplish the same result.  Has Red Bull gotten big enough to have a lobbyist?    Bet they are behind this.

FYI, Loko has to be loving this crap.  I have never heard of it, or seen it before.  Now, it makes national news and all of a sudden we have 4 different flavors of the stuff in my local liqueur store, and I live in a town of less than 3k in ks. 
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: jtksu on November 19, 2010, 11:55:27 AM
What's the alcohol content on that stuff?  Also-  the report I read said that the FDA was considering banning any alcoholic drink with caffiene.  What about all the red bull drinks/shots, all the drinks including cola, etc?
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: AbeFroman on November 19, 2010, 12:46:38 PM
No they shouldn't ban it, but you are dumb as eff if you drink it.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: CNS on November 19, 2010, 12:54:07 PM
What's the alcohol content on that stuff?  Also-  the report I read said that the FDA was considering banning any alcoholic drink with caffiene.  What about all the red bull drinks/shots, all the drinks including cola, etc?

Don't know for sure, but the pig they interviewed on the news(when the oregon chicks got wasted) said it was the equiv to 4-5 beers per can.  Really doesn't seem all that bad.  Something like a really stiff mixed drink?

I have heard that sugar and caffeine both expedite alcohol's effect though and that Loko has a lot of both. 
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: Benja on November 19, 2010, 01:05:14 PM
No they shouldn't ban it, but you are dumb as eff if you drink it.

Only if you abuse it, like a million other things.

Edit: alcohol content is quite a bit higher than I thought, though.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: Benja on November 19, 2010, 01:06:28 PM
What's the alcohol content on that stuff?  Also-  the report I read said that the FDA was considering banning any alcoholic drink with caffiene.  What about all the red bull drinks/shots, all the drinks including cola, etc?

Don't know for sure, but the pig they interviewed on the news(when the oregon chicks got wasted) said it was the equiv to 4-5 beers per can.  Really doesn't seem all that bad.  Something like a really stiff mixed drink?

I have heard that sugar and caffeine both expedite alcohol's effect though and that Loko has a lot of both. 

Haven't tried Loko, but if it really has that much per can, that's a lot more than any of the other energy/alcohol drinks. I can see why there's some controversy.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: michigancat on November 19, 2010, 01:08:34 PM
What's the alcohol content on that stuff?  Also-  the report I read said that the FDA was considering banning any alcoholic drink with caffiene.  What about all the red bull drinks/shots, all the drinks including cola, etc?

Don't know for sure, but the pig they interviewed on the news(when the oregon chicks got wasted) said it was the equiv to 4-5 beers per can.  Really doesn't seem all that bad.  Something like a really stiff mixed drink?

I have heard that sugar and caffeine both expedite alcohol's effect though and that Loko has a lot of both. 

Haven't tried Loko, but if it really has that much per can, that's a lot more than any of the other energy/alcohol drinks. I can see why there's some controversy.

It's 12% alcohol in a 24 ounce can.  What's the alcohol content of a rum and coke?  :dunno:  <-Which to me is even more dangerous.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: jtksu on November 19, 2010, 01:13:34 PM
USA Today says it contains between 6-12% alcohol (by volume) as much caffeine as 5 cups of coffee, and is sold in 23.5 oz cans.  The alcohol content looks like it's about the same as any other malt liqour but that is a ton of caffeine.  eff that crap.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: CNS on November 19, 2010, 01:21:03 PM
USA Today says it contains between 6-12% alcohol (by volume) as much caffeine as 5 cups of coffee, and is sold in 23.5 oz cans.  The alcohol content looks like it's about the same as any other malt liqour but that is a ton of caffeine.  eff that cac.

There are a lot of beers available that beat that in a 12oz bottle.  There are some germans that exceed 8-10% w/o taking their pants off.  crap, there is a blueberry beer on the shelf of my small ass town that is over 8%.

Needs to be looked at more closely.  FDA could be F'ing me in the A as far as this leading to things I actually like to drink being taken away.  

Lol if this comes down to caffeine content.  
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: Benja on November 19, 2010, 01:23:13 PM
I drink Sparks at work all the time, but that's only like 7 percent, I believe.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: kitten_mittons on November 19, 2010, 01:25:23 PM
I drink Sparks at work all the time, but that's only like 7 percent, I believe.

Where do you work?
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: CNS on November 19, 2010, 01:27:03 PM
USA Today says it contains between 6-12% alcohol (by volume) as much caffeine as 5 cups of coffee, and is sold in 23.5 oz cans.  The alcohol content looks like it's about the same as any other malt liqour but that is a ton of caffeine.  eff that cac.

I have a somewhat LACCIQ(low alcohol content calculator), but wouldn't a 12oz Red Bull/Vodka blow this away?  The ones I get are usually half and half.  

Vodka = 80 proof = 40%
Make vodka 50% of the drink would take it from 40% to 20% for the 12oz drink, right?
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: Benja on November 19, 2010, 01:27:52 PM
I drink Sparks at work all the time, but that's only like 7 percent, I believe.

Where do you work?

Ville
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: jtksu on November 19, 2010, 01:28:46 PM
Yeah, barelywines laugh at that 12% but people don't tend to binge drink those things.  It may well have a lot to do with the way it's marketed.  Appearantly, 4 refers to the four stages of intoxication it provides.  "Loud, drunk, wasted, and blacked out.". Genius, if you ask me.  I would have had fun with that crap in high school and college.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: pissclams on November 19, 2010, 01:29:19 PM
What's the alcohol content on that stuff?  Also-  the report I read said that the FDA was considering banning any alcoholic drink with caffiene.  What about all the red bull drinks/shots, all the drinks including cola, etc?

Don't know for sure, but the pig they interviewed on the news(when the oregon chicks got wasted) said it was the equiv to 4-5 beers per can.  Really doesn't seem all that bad.  Something like a really stiff mixed drink?

I have heard that sugar and caffeine both expedite alcohol's effect though and that Loko has a lot of both.  

Haven't tried Loko, but if it really has that much per can, that's a lot more than any of the other energy/alcohol drinks. I can see why there's some controversy.

It's 12% alcohol in a 24 ounce can.  What's the alcohol content of a rum and coke?  :dunno:  <-Which to me is even more dangerous.

a drink = a beer = a glass of wine.  they're all the same.

rum and coke generally doesn't come in 24 oz cans marketed at younger drinkers nor does it come in Grape, Fruit Punch, Orange Blend, Watermelon, Blue Raspberry, Lemon Lime, Lemonade, and Cranberry Lemonade flavors.  

What's the alcohol content on that stuff?  Also-  the report I read said that the FDA was considering banning any alcoholic drink with caffiene.  What about all the red bull drinks/shots, all the drinks including cola, etc?

the FDA is looking at premade drinks that have caffeine in them, not drinks that people put caffeine in.  
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: mcmwcat on November 19, 2010, 01:32:27 PM
USA Today says it contains between 6-12% alcohol (by volume) as much caffeine as 5 cups of coffee, and is sold in 23.5 oz cans.  The alcohol content looks like it's about the same as any other malt liqour but that is a ton of caffeine.  eff that crap.

found my new morning drink  :love:
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: CNS on November 19, 2010, 01:33:01 PM
What's the alcohol content on that stuff?  Also-  the report I read said that the FDA was considering banning any alcoholic drink with caffiene.  What about all the red bull drinks/shots, all the drinks including cola, etc?

Don't know for sure, but the pig they interviewed on the news(when the oregon chicks got wasted) said it was the equiv to 4-5 beers per can.  Really doesn't seem all that bad.  Something like a really stiff mixed drink?

I have heard that sugar and caffeine both expedite alcohol's effect though and that Loko has a lot of both.  

Haven't tried Loko, but if it really has that much per can, that's a lot more than any of the other energy/alcohol drinks. I can see why there's some controversy.

It's 12% alcohol in a 24 ounce can.  What's the alcohol content of a rum and coke?  :dunno:  <-Which to me is even more dangerous.

a drink = a beer = a glass of wine.  they're all the same.

rum and coke generally doesn't come in 24 oz cans marketed at younger drinkers nor does it come in Grape, Fruit Punch, Orange Blend, Watermelon, Blue Raspberry, Lemon Lime, Lemonade, and Cranberry Lemonade flavors.  

What's the alcohol content on that stuff?  Also-  the report I read said that the FDA was considering banning any alcoholic drink with caffiene.  What about all the red bull drinks/shots, all the drinks including cola, etc?

the FDA is looking at premade drinks that have caffeine in them, not drinks that people put caffeine in.  


 The gov's position on all this should be:  Everyone should stop being rough ridin' stupid, but if you are being rough ridin' stupid don't expect to not have to throw up and go to the hospital.  Also, quit being rough ridin' stupid.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: Benja on November 19, 2010, 01:36:01 PM
What's the alcohol content on that stuff?  Also-  the report I read said that the FDA was considering banning any alcoholic drink with caffiene.  What about all the red bull drinks/shots, all the drinks including cola, etc?

Don't know for sure, but the pig they interviewed on the news(when the oregon chicks got wasted) said it was the equiv to 4-5 beers per can.  Really doesn't seem all that bad.  Something like a really stiff mixed drink?

I have heard that sugar and caffeine both expedite alcohol's effect though and that Loko has a lot of both. 

Haven't tried Loko, but if it really has that much per can, that's a lot more than any of the other energy/alcohol drinks. I can see why there's some controversy.

It's 12% alcohol in a 24 ounce can.  What's the alcohol content of a rum and coke?  :dunno:  <-Which to me is even more dangerous.

a drink = a beer = a glass of wine.  they're all the same.

rum and coke generally doesn't come in 24 oz cans marketed at younger drinkers nor does it come in Grape, Fruit Punch, Orange Blend, Watermelon, Blue Raspberry, Lemon Lime, Lemonade, and Cranberry Lemonade flavors. 

What's the alcohol content on that stuff?  Also-  the report I read said that the FDA was considering banning any alcoholic drink with caffiene.  What about all the red bull drinks/shots, all the drinks including cola, etc?

the FDA is looking at premade drinks that have caffeine in them, not drinks that people put caffeine in. 


 The gov's position on all this should be:  Everyone should stop being rough ridin' stupid, but if you are being rough ridin' stupid don't expect to not have to throw up and go to the hospital.  Also, quit being rough ridin' stupid.

Exactly. I don't see the need for the government to continue wasting time protecting people from their own stupidity. Kind of a Darwin type deal here.

I'd imagine the biggest problem they have is the way that it's marketed.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: pissclams on November 19, 2010, 01:43:09 PM
What's the alcohol content on that stuff?  Also-  the report I read said that the FDA was considering banning any alcoholic drink with caffiene.  What about all the red bull drinks/shots, all the drinks including cola, etc?

Don't know for sure, but the pig they interviewed on the news(when the oregon chicks got wasted) said it was the equiv to 4-5 beers per can.  Really doesn't seem all that bad.  Something like a really stiff mixed drink?

I have heard that sugar and caffeine both expedite alcohol's effect though and that Loko has a lot of both. 

Haven't tried Loko, but if it really has that much per can, that's a lot more than any of the other energy/alcohol drinks. I can see why there's some controversy.

It's 12% alcohol in a 24 ounce can.  What's the alcohol content of a rum and coke?  :dunno:  <-Which to me is even more dangerous.

a drink = a beer = a glass of wine.  they're all the same.

rum and coke generally doesn't come in 24 oz cans marketed at younger drinkers nor does it come in Grape, Fruit Punch, Orange Blend, Watermelon, Blue Raspberry, Lemon Lime, Lemonade, and Cranberry Lemonade flavors. 

What's the alcohol content on that stuff?  Also-  the report I read said that the FDA was considering banning any alcoholic drink with caffiene.  What about all the red bull drinks/shots, all the drinks including cola, etc?

the FDA is looking at premade drinks that have caffeine in them, not drinks that people put caffeine in. 


 The gov's position on all this should be:  Everyone should stop being rough ridin' stupid, but if you are being rough ridin' stupid don't expect to not have to throw up and go to the hospital.  Also, quit being rough ridin' stupid.

Exactly. I don't see the need for the government to continue wasting time protecting people from their own stupidity. Kind of a Darwin type deal here.

I'd imagine the biggest problem they have is the way that it's marketed.
The problem is that these types of drinks are marketed at kids who really don't know any better and they are dangerous.  More dangerous than a 1.75 of Jack? Yes,  because they are a hell of a lot easier to drink than Jack.   There's really no need for this type of drink to be on the market.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: jtksu on November 19, 2010, 01:47:29 PM
The stuff is heavily marketed towards Mexicans.  Clearly, the feds don't want those guys getting all geared up.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: Benja on November 19, 2010, 01:48:02 PM
What's the alcohol content on that stuff?  Also-  the report I read said that the FDA was considering banning any alcoholic drink with caffiene.  What about all the red bull drinks/shots, all the drinks including cola, etc?

Don't know for sure, but the pig they interviewed on the news(when the oregon chicks got wasted) said it was the equiv to 4-5 beers per can.  Really doesn't seem all that bad.  Something like a really stiff mixed drink?

I have heard that sugar and caffeine both expedite alcohol's effect though and that Loko has a lot of both. 

Haven't tried Loko, but if it really has that much per can, that's a lot more than any of the other energy/alcohol drinks. I can see why there's some controversy.

It's 12% alcohol in a 24 ounce can.  What's the alcohol content of a rum and coke?  :dunno:  <-Which to me is even more dangerous.

a drink = a beer = a glass of wine.  they're all the same.

rum and coke generally doesn't come in 24 oz cans marketed at younger drinkers nor does it come in Grape, Fruit Punch, Orange Blend, Watermelon, Blue Raspberry, Lemon Lime, Lemonade, and Cranberry Lemonade flavors. 

What's the alcohol content on that stuff?  Also-  the report I read said that the FDA was considering banning any alcoholic drink with caffiene.  What about all the red bull drinks/shots, all the drinks including cola, etc?

the FDA is looking at premade drinks that have caffeine in them, not drinks that people put caffeine in. 


 The gov's position on all this should be:  Everyone should stop being rough ridin' stupid, but if you are being rough ridin' stupid don't expect to not have to throw up and go to the hospital.  Also, quit being rough ridin' stupid.

Exactly. I don't see the need for the government to continue wasting time protecting people from their own stupidity. Kind of a Darwin type deal here.

I'd imagine the biggest problem they have is the way that it's marketed.
The problem is that these types of drinks are marketed at kids who really don't know any better and they are dangerous.  More dangerous than a 1.75 of Jack? Yes,  because they are a hell of a lot easier to drink than Jack.   There's really no need for this type of drink to be on the market.

Yeah, that's all true too.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: mcmwcat on November 19, 2010, 02:02:11 PM
clams, isn't it already illegal for kids to drink?
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: pissclams on November 19, 2010, 02:04:32 PM
clams, isn't it already illegal for kids to drink?

do people not do things that are against the law?  my use of the the term kids in this thread should apply to anyone who doesn't know better.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: michigancat on November 19, 2010, 02:08:23 PM
:cyclist:
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: Sugar Dick on November 19, 2010, 02:17:41 PM
Since they still sell all of the following:

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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ghettowine.com%2Fpics%2Fmaddog%2Fmaddog.jpg&hash=13e37f5d0efb6c14b870df90d56ff205685a1fc8)

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.citypages.com%2Ffood%2Fnt-thumb.jpg&hash=6174922f29ae28bf2b025f78556b9f77964e58e3)  <---- personal fav

It should not be banned. 
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: CNS on November 19, 2010, 02:20:25 PM
Gov needs to let the existing law stand and work on the marketing or illegal sales issue.  I would argue that the marketing issue is BS.

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) to legislate beyond that.

It is illegal for kids to drink as it is.  Anything more will be either redundant or overstepping.  Both of which are Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: mcmwcat on November 19, 2010, 02:24:30 PM
i've changed my mind.  it's clear that elected officials have nothing better to worry about.  deciding what drinks should be legal and illegal is clearly a priority.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: KSUTOMMY on November 19, 2010, 02:25:09 PM
I wont touch anything that stimulates and depresses at the same time. There was a dude in my HS who was hammered then did a line of coke and his heart stopped while walking home - I know that is an extreme, but that's my take.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: CNS on November 19, 2010, 02:31:08 PM
FYI, coke is already illegal too.

Not judging.  But the gov shouldn't have to now add legislation saying that it is illegal to do coke and walk home because that kid did and it didn't turn out well.

Again, doing so would be redundant and Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: pissclams on November 19, 2010, 02:35:15 PM
:cyclist:

that is warranted.  the thing is that I'm against the government overstepping its bounds but I think that alcohol is a really dangerous drug and it probably isn't legislated enough.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: CNS on November 19, 2010, 02:41:22 PM
we don't need a War on Alcohol. 

We need common sense. 
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 19, 2010, 02:52:34 PM
USA Today says it contains between 6-12% alcohol (by volume) as much caffeine as 5 cups of coffee, and is sold in 23.5 oz cans.  The alcohol content looks like it's about the same as any other malt liqour but that is a ton of caffeine.  eff that cac.

There are a lot of beers available that beat that in a 12oz bottle.  There are some germans that exceed 8-10% w/o taking their pants off.  crap, there is a blueberry beer on the shelf of my small ass town that is over 8%.

Needs to be looked at more closely.  FDA could be F'ing me in the A as far as this leading to things I actually like to drink being taken away.  

Lol if this comes down to caffeine content.  

Being in a smaller bottle does not affect the % alcohol content, only the total amount of alcohol. You would have to drink 2 of those 12 oz beers for it to be comparable to 1 4Loko. I don't know about everyone else, but I usually drink faster when I have a larger serving. This would make the 4Loko more dangerous than drinking 2 of the high content beers. You also have to keep in mind that 4Loko is a fruit-flavored drink that is marketed to people who don't like to taste alcohol in their drinks. These people usually have a lower tolerance than the person who will toss back beers and drink rum and coke. Add in the extremely high amount of caffeine, and you get a pretty dangerous drink.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: Benja on November 19, 2010, 03:06:04 PM
we don't need a War on Alcohol. 

We need common sense. 

Problem is, many people, especially at young ages, don't have much of the latter.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: Sugar Dick on November 19, 2010, 03:06:47 PM
Anyone that thinks alcohol is anything more than fun in a bottle, is a f*cking wuss baby mama's boy.  GMAFB.  

If you can't handle the effects of something 12% alcohol by volume, then you won't be able to handle the following and should either kill yourself now or not drink:
Wine
Schnapps/Pucker
Port
Liqueur
Liquor

We need another regulation on the sale of alcohol about as badly as MichiCat needs a second bad person on his forehead.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: CNS on November 19, 2010, 03:11:23 PM
we don't need a War on Alcohol. 

We need common sense. 

Problem is, many people, especially at young ages, don't have much of the latter.

We cannot legislate against all the stupidity that a teen-aged brain contains.

Parents need to take responsibility a little more.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: jtksu on November 19, 2010, 03:11:25 PM
I bet Rusty's sig other would love it if he had a 2nd bad person on his forehead.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: Sugar Dick on November 19, 2010, 03:12:12 PM
clams, isn't it already illegal for kids to drink?

do people not do things that are against the law?  my use of the the term kids in this thread should apply to anyone who doesn't know better.

Your bassackwards logic has cost me the enjoyment of the following spokesman:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Feppy7890.files.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F06%2Fjoe_camel.jpg&hash=4b944e6e00d5f16202c8b5d48a3428c82905ecce)  (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bark4beer.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F10%2FSpudsMcKenzie1.jpg&hash=7d26ca15b9e7bf54fa65a78ad81770360cd6d01e)

and done nothing to curtail kids using either product.

Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 19, 2010, 03:53:27 PM
I really don't get how it is supposedly "marketed" toward kids.  First of all, has anyone seen a 4Loko ad EVER?  Do they have commercials?  Do they have magazine ads?  I haven't seen any, if they do.  I don't think there's any marketing whatsoever.  Do you see the colorful camo can as targeting kids? 
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: CNS on November 19, 2010, 03:57:08 PM
What's funny is that all the recent news has been the best adverts they could have ever wanted.  Kids hearing about something strong enough to knock you out after slamming one or two...just saying it would have been the first thing I wanted to spend my $4 in pocket change on.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: Benja on November 19, 2010, 04:29:53 PM
we don't need a War on Alcohol. 

We need common sense. 

Problem is, many people, especially at young ages, don't have much of the latter.

We cannot legislate against all the stupidity that a teen-aged brain contains.

Parents need to take responsibility a little more.

Oh, I totally agree. I'm just saying, that's the problem.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 19, 2010, 04:31:05 PM
I'm not against banning all energy drinks. Specifically targeting 4Loko seems unfair, though.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: steve dave on November 19, 2010, 05:09:54 PM
chance there would be this big to do if the name wasn't 4Loko?  0%
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: Brock Landers on November 19, 2010, 05:33:17 PM
clams, isn't it already illegal for kids to drink?

do people not do things that are against the law?  my use of the the term kids in this thread should apply to anyone who doesn't know better.

Your bassackwards logic has cost me the enjoyment of the following spokesman:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Feppy7890.files.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F06%2Fjoe_camel.jpg&hash=4b944e6e00d5f16202c8b5d48a3428c82905ecce)  (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bark4beer.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F10%2FSpudsMcKenzie1.jpg&hash=7d26ca15b9e7bf54fa65a78ad81770360cd6d01e)

and done nothing to curtail kids using either product.




Any of you old farts remember those Hamm's beer commercials from the 80's?  You know, the ones with the animated bears and stuff??  When I was a little kid I wanted my first beer to be a Hamm's.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: NXL on November 19, 2010, 08:18:37 PM
Has it killede anyone?  If so, leave it on the market to thin the herd.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: yoga-like_abana on November 20, 2010, 12:11:19 AM
It is pretty amazing, also the worst hangover I've ever had in my life.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: jtksu on November 20, 2010, 12:43:37 AM
Alcohol and sugar are typically a recipe for a bad hangover.  I guess binge drinking is usually a recipe for a bad hangover as well.  Oh, and tannins.  You drink too much red wine and you will swear a tiny bomb has went off in your head.  For like 24 hours.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 20, 2010, 12:51:38 PM
Bought 2 Four Lokos this morning in preparation for when Snyder trots fracking Coffman out there.  Will report back after Coffman has fumbled for the second time.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: felix rex on November 20, 2010, 12:59:22 PM
Bought 2 Four Lokos this morning in preparation for when Snyder trots fracking Coffman out there.  Will report back after Coffman has fumbled for the second time.

Is this really any different than red bulls and vodka? Also, does anybody else remember when Budweiser came out with a caffeinated beer?
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: jtksu on November 20, 2010, 01:03:12 PM
Yeah, that Bud stuff was horrible.  It was like slightly minty budweiser.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: CNS on November 20, 2010, 02:19:30 PM
Iirc, Jim Beam came out with a premixed drink in cola.  Don't know what happened to it.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: jtksu on November 20, 2010, 11:24:43 PM
It tastes like Satan's piss!
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: CNS on November 21, 2010, 07:54:44 AM
not supposed to taste it.  supposed to slam it.  dont you watch the news
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: Cire on November 21, 2010, 11:52:48 AM
the FDA ordered them to take out the energy stuff.

Had some for the first time last night.  Wasn't terrible, I can see where dumbass college kids would get in trouble with it.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: jtksu on November 21, 2010, 12:07:52 PM
Amusing skit about it on SNL last night.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: Matt Siebrant's Left Hand on November 21, 2010, 05:45:26 PM
Sorry if this has already been posted. But according to the ABC November 30th will be the day that Four Loko will be pulled off the selves from all retail liquor stores.
 :cheers: :driving: :drink:
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 21, 2010, 06:00:37 PM
Has NOT already been posted, and THANK you for the information.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: Matt Siebrant's Left Hand on November 21, 2010, 07:48:35 PM
Has NOT already been posted, and THANK you for the information.

THANK YOU!
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: felix rex on November 22, 2010, 11:58:05 AM
Sorry if this has already been posted. But according to the ABC November 30th will be the day that Four Loko will be pulled off the selves from all retail liquor stores.
 :cheers: :driving: :drink:

LOL. Cue enormous binge drinking parties across the nation.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: jtksu on November 22, 2010, 11:58:43 AM
Sorry if this has already been posted. But according to the ABC November 30th will be the day that Four Loko will be pulled off the selves from all retail liquor stores.
 :cheers: :driving: :drink:

LOL. Cue enormous binge drinking parties across the nation.

Yes.  Keeping it legal through the Holiday break was a stroke of genius. 
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 22, 2010, 12:22:48 PM
Amusing skit about it on SNL last night.

amusing enough for me to hulu it?
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: jtksu on November 22, 2010, 12:31:52 PM
Amusing skit about it on SNL last night.

amusing enough for me to hulu it?

Yeah.  It was during the weekend update, which is pretty much always worth a hulu.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: Tobias on November 22, 2010, 12:54:27 PM
True story - happened to be standing out front at work Friday afternoon and caught the tail-end of a police chase.  Dude about flipped his crappy Safari van, had guns drawn on him, etc.  The driver did a nosedive into the pavement during the field sobriety test and got the handcuffs promptly slapped back on him.  Some Mexican dude in the van got whisked off really quickly - probably is no longer en Los Estados Unidos.

They brought in the drug dog and started searching his shitty ass van and pulled out these big bright colored cans and kept stacking them on the hood.  We had L4LIQ and didn't understand why they were so uptight about energy drinks.  Had some Four Loko for the first time the next day and understood the   :drink:  :drool:  :driving:

P.S. - Checked the police blotter the next day and dude was homeless.  Kinda want to PAK with him.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 22, 2010, 02:36:56 PM
JFC, sounds like an incredible Four Loko patriot.   :emawkid: to you, homeless loko patriot.
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 18, 2011, 08:08:20 AM
http://eater.com/archives/2011/01/17/scotch-whiskey-in-a-can-contains-eight-shots-of-whiskey.php

 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Should the FDA ban 4Loko?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 18, 2011, 08:48:31 AM
http://eater.com/archives/2011/01/17/scotch-whiskey-in-a-can-contains-eight-shots-of-whiskey.php

 :horrorsurprise:

 :lol: