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Title: Phogsplanation
Post by: Sugar Dick on November 18, 2010, 09:25:31 PM
Post your phogesque explanations for the Cats weak ass showing againt the jose azul.
Guys, don't worry this was a classic trap game. We perserveired and pulled one out.  Frank was obviously working on some new defensive stuff, overplaying the passing lanes and playing off defenders which exposed us up to all the open layups. 

We need to recognize we have a huge target on our back this season and that teams are going to give us their best shot every night.  Presbo played the best they'll ever play in their entire lives tonight and still couldn't surmount the magic of the ood.  Plus Coleman is a legit lottery tweener in a few years, mark my words.  If the refs weren't so biased we shoot way more foul shots and win this game by 24-63 points.  Not to mention if the Presbos shoot their normal average we win by twice that.

Frank will have these guys whipped into shape come Monday, I have full faith and no doubt.

Rock Chaulk...errrr  EPAW!

Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: Panjandrum on November 18, 2010, 09:27:00 PM
I thought they played alright considering they didn't give a crap.

 :ck:
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 18, 2010, 09:27:16 PM
Guys, I think we may be seeing this Presbyterian church squad again in the sweet 16.
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: hemmy on November 18, 2010, 09:27:50 PM
We suck
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 18, 2010, 09:28:00 PM
they didn't give a crap.

Yeah, well, that was the problem.
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: Cartierfor3 on November 18, 2010, 09:29:46 PM
At least 2 of the players on pres. will play in the league
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: Panjandrum on November 18, 2010, 09:31:54 PM
they didn't give a cac.

Yeah, well, that was the problem.

What do they gain from going out and beating the crap out of some religious school by 40 points?

It's a schedule filler.  It's essentially an exhibition game.  As long as you win, it doesn't matter what the score was or how you played.
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: mcmwcat on November 18, 2010, 09:37:46 PM
frank coaching so we have meaningful possessions down the stretch to teach valuable lessons.

 :driving:
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: Sugar Dick on November 18, 2010, 09:41:22 PM
frank coaching so we have meaningful possessions down the stretch to teach valuable lessons.

 :driving:

Oooooh, good one. I wouldn't have thought of that. Frank :blush:
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 18, 2010, 09:50:17 PM
they didn't give a cac.

Yeah, well, that was the problem.

What do they gain from going out and beating the crap out of some religious school by 40 points?

It's a schedule filler.  It's essentially an exhibition game.  As long as you win, it doesn't matter what the score was or how you played.

Yes, a win is a win, but I don't like feeling fortunate to get a win against Presbyterian.
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: Panjandrum on November 18, 2010, 09:54:12 PM
they didn't give a cac.

Yeah, well, that was the problem.

What do they gain from going out and beating the cac out of some religious school by 40 points?

It's a schedule filler.  It's essentially an exhibition game.  As long as you win, it doesn't matter what the score was or how you played.

Yes, a win is a win, but I don't like feeling fortunate to get a win against Presbyterian.

I don't think they were really 'fortunate'.  They turned it on there around the three minute mark and put it out of reach.  If they would have done that seven minutes prior, no one would be really concerned at all.

I guess my 'phogsplanation' is that they just didn't care.  If it would have been a better team, we probably would have seen a better effort.
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: mcmwcat on November 18, 2010, 09:57:20 PM
it obviously matters how you play.  MOV not so much
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: kougar24 on November 18, 2010, 10:44:04 PM
Yeah, I'm not really feeling a meltdown here. Save it for the Loyola loss.
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: skycat on November 19, 2010, 01:08:13 AM
they didn't give a cac.

Yeah, well, that was the problem.

What do they gain from going out and beating the cac out of some religious school by 40 points?

It's a schedule filler.  It's essentially an exhibition game.  As long as you win, it doesn't matter what the score was or how you played.

Yes, a win is a win, but I don't like feeling fortunate to get a win against Presbyterian.

I don't think they were really 'fortunate'.  They turned it on there around the three minute mark and put it out of reach.  If they would have done that seven minutes prior, no one would be really concerned at all.

I guess my 'phogsplanation' is that they just didn't care.  If it would have been a better team, we probably would have seen a better effort.

You're probably right, but wouldn't it be easier to try really hard, demolish the other team, fulfill the nation's expectations, make Frank proud, and avoid Frank utterly destroying them?

EDIT: In other words, playing hard would be easier than dealing with all the bad stuff caused by not playing hard.
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 19, 2010, 06:49:59 AM
Frank wanted an entire series of teaching points going into next week . . . he got exactly what he wanted, that's what makes him a great coach. 

Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: cdwildcat on November 19, 2010, 08:17:00 AM
Lets be honest with ourselves here, they are a very underated team who doesn't get any respect just because their the blue hoes. If they had a decent name like the eagles or something they would have already cracked the top 25 list.          :powerespect:
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 19, 2010, 08:36:47 AM
they didn't give a cac.

Yeah, well, that was the problem.

What do they gain from going out and beating the cac out of some religious school by 40 points?

It's a schedule filler.  It's essentially an exhibition game.  As long as you win, it doesn't matter what the score was or how you played.

Yes, a win is a win, but I don't like feeling fortunate to get a win against Presbyterian.

I don't think they were really 'fortunate'.  They turned it on there around the three minute mark and put it out of reach.  If they would have done that seven minutes prior, no one would be really concerned at all.

I guess my 'phogsplanation' is that they just didn't care.  If it would have been a better team, we probably would have seen a better effort.

If Coleman doesn't hook his arm for his fifth foul near the end of the game, we would have only had a 4 point lead and Presbyterian wouldn't have had to foul Pullen. I don't consider your best player making his free throws at the end of the game and making a wide open 3 pointer that was only there because Presbyterian wasn't good enough to run a press "turning it on."
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: yoEMAW on November 19, 2010, 08:38:36 AM
frank coaching so we have meaningful possessions down the stretch to teach valuable lessons.

 :driving:

Oooooh, good one. I wouldn't have thought of that. Frank :blush:

Right, but this is bigger than basketball. When these guys turn 29 they'll thank him.
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: Sugar Dick on November 19, 2010, 09:44:40 AM
they didn't give a cac.

Yeah, well, that was the problem.

What do they gain from going out and beating the cac out of some religious school by 40 points?

It's a schedule filler.  It's essentially an exhibition game.  As long as you win, it doesn't matter what the score was or how you played.

Yes, a win is a win, but I don't like feeling fortunate to get a win against Presbyterian.

I don't think they were really 'fortunate'.  They turned it on there around the three minute mark and put it out of reach.  If they would have done that seven minutes prior, no one would be really concerned at all.

I guess my 'phogsplanation' is that they just didn't care.  If it would have been a better team, we probably would have seen a better effort.

If Coleman doesn't hook his arm for his fifth foul near the end of the game, we would have only had a 4 point lead and Presbyterian wouldn't have had to foul Pullen. I don't consider your best player making his free throws at the end of the game and making a wide open 3 pointer that was only there because Presbyterian wasn't good enough to run a press "turning it on."

That hook by Coleman was one of the more egregious ones I've seen.  I think he actually bowed Jamar in the back, neck, and then the back of the head.   :eek:
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 19, 2010, 09:56:44 AM
they didn't give a cac.

Yeah, well, that was the problem.

What do they gain from going out and beating the cac out of some religious school by 40 points?

It's a schedule filler.  It's essentially an exhibition game.  As long as you win, it doesn't matter what the score was or how you played.

Yes, a win is a win, but I don't like feeling fortunate to get a win against Presbyterian.

I don't think they were really 'fortunate'.  They turned it on there around the three minute mark and put it out of reach.  If they would have done that seven minutes prior, no one would be really concerned at all.

I guess my 'phogsplanation' is that they just didn't care.  If it would have been a better team, we probably would have seen a better effort.

If Coleman doesn't hook his arm for his fifth foul near the end of the game, we would have only had a 4 point lead and Presbyterian wouldn't have had to foul Pullen. I don't consider your best player making his free throws at the end of the game and making a wide open 3 pointer that was only there because Presbyterian wasn't good enough to run a press "turning it on."

That hook by Coleman was one of the more egregious ones I've seen.  I think he actually bowed Jamar in the back, neck, and then the back of the head.   :eek:

I'm not saying it wasn't a foul, but he would have had a wide open lane to the basket even without the hook.
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: kitten_mittons on November 19, 2010, 12:19:17 PM
they didn't give a cac.

Yeah, well, that was the problem.

What do they gain from going out and beating the cac out of some religious school by 40 points?

It's a schedule filler.  It's essentially an exhibition game.  As long as you win, it doesn't matter what the score was or how you played.

Yes, a win is a win, but I don't like feeling fortunate to get a win against Presbyterian.

I don't think they were really 'fortunate'.  They turned it on there around the three minute mark and put it out of reach.  If they would have done that seven minutes prior, no one would be really concerned at all.

I guess my 'phogsplanation' is that they just didn't care.  If it would have been a better team, we probably would have seen a better effort.

If Coleman doesn't hook his arm for his fifth foul near the end of the game, we would have only had a 4 point lead and Presbyterian wouldn't have had to foul Pullen. I don't consider your best player making his free throws at the end of the game and making a wide open 3 pointer that was only there because Presbyterian wasn't good enough to run a press "turning it on."

That hook by Coleman was one of the more egregious ones I've seen.  I think he actually bowed Jamar in the back, neck, and then the back of the head.   :eek:

I'm not saying it wasn't a foul, but he would have had a wide open lane to the basket even without the hook.

You must be a psychic to be able to see what position Jamar would have been in had he not been hooked.
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 19, 2010, 12:32:45 PM
they didn't give a cac.

Yeah, well, that was the problem.

What do they gain from going out and beating the cac out of some religious school by 40 points?

It's a schedule filler.  It's essentially an exhibition game.  As long as you win, it doesn't matter what the score was or how you played.

Yes, a win is a win, but I don't like feeling fortunate to get a win against Presbyterian.

I don't think they were really 'fortunate'.  They turned it on there around the three minute mark and put it out of reach.  If they would have done that seven minutes prior, no one would be really concerned at all.

I guess my 'phogsplanation' is that they just didn't care.  If it would have been a better team, we probably would have seen a better effort.

If Coleman doesn't hook his arm for his fifth foul near the end of the game, we would have only had a 4 point lead and Presbyterian wouldn't have had to foul Pullen. I don't consider your best player making his free throws at the end of the game and making a wide open 3 pointer that was only there because Presbyterian wasn't good enough to run a press "turning it on."

That hook by Coleman was one of the more egregious ones I've seen.  I think he actually bowed Jamar in the back, neck, and then the back of the head.   :eek:

I'm not saying it wasn't a foul, but he would have had a wide open lane to the basket even without the hook.

You must be a psychic to be able to see what position Jamar would have been in had he not been hooked.

Jamar would have fouled him. You have not watched K-State basketball over the last few years if you think otherwise.
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: AlwaysEMAW on November 19, 2010, 01:30:33 PM
Sounding sure of things that didn't even happen is incredibly stupid
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: kitten_mittons on November 19, 2010, 01:44:43 PM
they didn't give a cac.

Yeah, well, that was the problem.

What do they gain from going out and beating the cac out of some religious school by 40 points?

It's a schedule filler.  It's essentially an exhibition game.  As long as you win, it doesn't matter what the score was or how you played.

Yes, a win is a win, but I don't like feeling fortunate to get a win against Presbyterian.

I don't think they were really 'fortunate'.  They turned it on there around the three minute mark and put it out of reach.  If they would have done that seven minutes prior, no one would be really concerned at all.

I guess my 'phogsplanation' is that they just didn't care.  If it would have been a better team, we probably would have seen a better effort.

If Coleman doesn't hook his arm for his fifth foul near the end of the game, we would have only had a 4 point lead and Presbyterian wouldn't have had to foul Pullen. I don't consider your best player making his free throws at the end of the game and making a wide open 3 pointer that was only there because Presbyterian wasn't good enough to run a press "turning it on."

That hook by Coleman was one of the more egregious ones I've seen.  I think he actually bowed Jamar in the back, neck, and then the back of the head.   :eek:

I'm not saying it wasn't a foul, but he would have had a wide open lane to the basket even without the hook.

You must be a psychic to be able to see what position Jamar would have been in had he not been hooked.

Jamar would have fouled him. You have not watched K-State basketball over the last few years if you think otherwise.

Are we going to cover the spread on Monday?
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: AzCat on November 19, 2010, 01:56:26 PM
Presbyterian is a quality win. (http://www.realtimerpi.com/rpi_146_Men.html)   :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: AzCat on November 19, 2010, 02:10:17 PM
Presbyterian is a quality win. (http://www.realtimerpi.com/rpi_146_Men.html)   :horrorsurprise:

Oh look, in addition to knowing all about hidden gem Presbyterian, they're projecting the 'Cats will go undefeated this season.  Obviously some really smart folks running that site!   :users:
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 19, 2010, 02:25:41 PM
Are we going to cover the spread on Monday?

Tell me what the spread is and I'll let you know. I would take K-State -5, not sure if I'd go higher than that.

Look, I'm not giving up on the team's season, or even saying we're not a top 5 team. I think we would have still won the game if Presbyterian pulled to within 4. It's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) to say that K-State turned it on in the last 2 minutes of the game when Presbyterian was in a position where they had to press and foul, though. K-State simply did not choke the game away when they were given an opportunity to do so.
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: mcmwcat on November 19, 2010, 02:29:55 PM
Look, I'm not giving up on the team's season

thank god.  not sure what i would have done w/ myself
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: AlwaysEMAW on November 19, 2010, 02:53:11 PM
Are we going to cover the spread on Monday?
I think we would have still won the game if Presbyterian pulled to within 4.
They were within 4 with 2 1/2 minutes left
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 19, 2010, 02:54:16 PM
Are we going to cover the spread on Monday?
I think we would have still won the game if Presbyterian pulled to within 4.
They were within 4 with 2 1/2 minutes left

I know. What is your point?
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: AlwaysEMAW on November 19, 2010, 03:04:34 PM
Are we going to cover the spread on Monday?
I think we would have still won the game if Presbyterian pulled to within 4.
They were within 4 with 2 1/2 minutes left

I know. What is your point?
Your post implied you didn't know they brought it to within 4.  That is all, go back to predicting the future and stuff.
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 19, 2010, 03:05:56 PM
Are we going to cover the spread on Monday?
I think we would have still won the game if Presbyterian pulled to within 4.
They were within 4 with 2 1/2 minutes left

I know. What is your point?
Your post implied you didn't know they brought it to within 4.  That is all, go back to predicting the future and stuff.

My post was just saying that this team did not just sleepwalk through the game and turn it on at the end. They just sleepwalked through the entire game. Go back to being a prick and stuff.
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: Dave Wooderson on November 19, 2010, 03:44:00 PM
Go back to being a prick and stuff.

 :users:
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: FHSU92 on November 19, 2010, 05:45:11 PM
These kind of games happen when you're everyone else's superbowl, remember Oral Roberts guys?
Title: Re: Phogsplanation
Post by: NXL on November 19, 2010, 05:48:43 PM
Most obvious Phogsplanation:

We didn't almost lose; We almost beat ourselves.