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Title: FY 2010: K-State Athletics Reports . . .
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 18, 2010, 11:38:23 AM
net operating income of $11.1 million, on gross operating income of $52.4 million. 

Net operating income was up approx $13.9 million dollars year over year, and gross operating income was up $5.01 million year over year.



Title: Re: FY 2010: K-State Athletics Reports . . .
Post by: steve dave on November 18, 2010, 11:44:57 AM
Yeah, we rough ridin' own
Title: Re: FY 2010: K-State Athletics Reports . . .
Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 18, 2010, 12:36:16 PM
for non smart guys...did we make more profit this year? tia
Title: Re: FY 2010: K-State Athletics Reports . . .
Post by: pissclams on November 18, 2010, 12:55:58 PM
for non smart guys...did we make more profit this year? tia

yes
Title: Re: FY 2010: K-State Athletics Reports . . .
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 18, 2010, 01:21:08 PM
Texas . . . $143 million in Gross Revenue as reported to the DOE/Equity in Athletics.  $30 million in net revenue.



Title: Re: FY 2010: K-State Athletics Reports . . .
Post by: mcmwcat on November 18, 2010, 01:44:36 PM
so last year we lost $2.8 million?
Title: Re: FY 2010: K-State Athletics Reports . . .
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 18, 2010, 01:51:36 PM
so last year we lost $2.8 million?

yep . . . losses on endowment holdings.
Title: Re: FY 2010: K-State Athletics Reports . . .
Post by: mcmwcat on November 18, 2010, 02:36:52 PM
endowments are part of operating budgets?
Title: Re: FY 2010: K-State Athletics Reports . . .
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 18, 2010, 03:29:52 PM
endowments are part of operating budgets?

Well, that's a good question, but in FY 2009, at the end of the day, K-State felt to compelled to report the loss in endowment value as an operating loss.   I'd have to defer to the accountants beyond that.

Title: Re: FY 2010: K-State Athletics Reports . . .
Post by: Sugar Dick on November 18, 2010, 04:33:25 PM
endowments are part of operating budgets?

Well, that's a good question, but in FY 2009, at the end of the day, K-State felt to compelled to report the loss in endowment value as an operating loss.   I'd have to defer to the accountants beyond that.



mark-to-market accounting  :chainsaw:

We better not be reporting gains in the endowment as NOI
Title: Re: FY 2010: K-State Athletics Reports . . .
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 18, 2010, 04:38:04 PM
endowments are part of operating budgets?

Well, that's a good question, but in FY 2009, at the end of the day, K-State felt to compelled to report the loss in endowment value as an operating loss.   I'd have to defer to the accountants beyond that.



mark-to-market accounting  :chainsaw:

We better not be reporting gains in the endowment as NOI

Does this really matter for a tax-exempt entity?
Title: Re: FY 2010: K-State Athletics Reports . . .
Post by: Sugar Dick on November 18, 2010, 04:43:05 PM
endowments are part of operating budgets?

Well, that's a good question, but in FY 2009, at the end of the day, K-State felt to compelled to report the loss in endowment value as an operating loss.   I'd have to defer to the accountants beyond that.



mark-to-market accounting  :chainsaw:

We better not be reporting gains in the endowment as NOI

Does this really matter for a tax-exempt entity?

Yes, need to know NOI to evaluate cash flow, unrealized gains in an endowment are not cash flow.  Cash can be used to buy nice things, stupid financial statements based on dumbass accounting rules cannot.