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Title: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: Pett on November 14, 2010, 05:38:28 PM
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Look @ the opponents too (Klein against a top five defense). :popcorn: > :bwpopcorn: ?
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: wes mantooth on November 14, 2010, 05:44:57 PM
Means Texas really sucks this year. :dunno:
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: chum1 on November 14, 2010, 05:50:58 PM
it means that queso uno needs more pt.
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: Pett on November 14, 2010, 05:53:06 PM
Means Texas really sucks this year. :dunno:

I think it means that if Klein could actually pass worth a shazbot! then he could be just as good as say....Roberson......
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: wes mantooth on November 14, 2010, 06:00:55 PM
Means Texas really sucks this year. :dunno:

I think it means that if Klein could actually pass worth a shazbot! then he could be just as good as say....Roberson......

Yeah, that's a pretty huge difference between the two.
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: CNS on November 14, 2010, 06:05:00 PM
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Look @ the opponents too (Klein against a top five defense). :popcorn: > :bwpopcorn: ?

When this came on the screen yesterday, I expected some tards to immediately make a case as to why CK will be the next Ell or Bish.  Didn't expect for it to happen here, thought.

It means crap.  Nothing.
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: Kat Kid on November 14, 2010, 06:11:53 PM
Stump the Chumps trivia?
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: Bookcat on November 14, 2010, 06:39:52 PM
it means you bench that guy for Carson on 1st and goal at the 1/.
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: Sugar Dick on November 14, 2010, 06:58:39 PM
Means Texas really sucks this year. :dunno:

I think it means that if Klein could actually pass worth a shazbot! then he could be just as good as say....Roberson......

Yeah, that's a pretty huge difference between the two.

Roberson sucked at passing his Sophomore year.  Just sayin'
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: Pett on November 14, 2010, 07:31:28 PM
Means Texas really sucks this year. :dunno:

I think it means that if Klein could actually pass worth a shazbot! then he could be just as good as say....Roberson......

Yeah, that's a pretty huge difference between the two.

Roberson sucked at passing his Sophomore year.  Just sayin'

I kinda was referring to both of their sophomore years. Obviously their athleticism isn't close at all but as a QB with the smarts that Klein has I think it is closer than people think.
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: ELL3 on November 14, 2010, 10:22:03 PM
Ell passing stats in that game at USC 6 of 16, 26 yards
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: jtksu on November 14, 2010, 11:19:53 PM
Isn't Klein like 6'5", 240 lbs?  Put some bulk on him and move him to TE.  Dude could be one hell of a TE and I'm pretty sure he can catch better than McDonald.  (So can just about everyone else, cept maybe Derrick Johnson.)
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: EMAWzified on November 14, 2010, 11:23:19 PM
So can OB make a passer out of him? And how many posters bitçhing about Klein not starting now will be bitÇhing about him starting next year?
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: jtksu on November 15, 2010, 12:00:27 AM
I imagine that Klein will get a shot @ QB next year.  But I doubt he beats out Tuggle.
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: kso_FAN on November 15, 2010, 07:35:33 AM
Snyder will keep Klein at QB, he'll want legit competition for Tuggle and Sams.  And don't be surprised if he's not the starter at least to begin the fall.
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: doom on November 15, 2010, 07:36:26 AM
Snyder will keep Klein at QB, he'll want legit competition for Tuggle and Sams.  And don't be surprised if he's not the starter at least to begin the fall.

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: kso_FAN on November 15, 2010, 07:37:37 AM
Snyder will keep Klein at QB, he'll want legit competition for Tuggle and Sams.  And don't be surprised if he's not the starter at least to begin the fall.

 :facepalm:

You wouldn't be surprised by this would you?
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: michigancat on November 15, 2010, 07:52:38 AM
Why does everyone think Tuggle or Sams will do anything next year?  Snyder will definitely start Klein.  No question whatsoever.

game management
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 15, 2010, 08:17:43 AM
Snyder will keep Klein at QB, he'll want legit competition for Tuggle and Sams.  And don't be surprised if he's not the starter at least to begin the fall.

 :facepalm:

You wouldn't be surprised by this would you?

If Klein starts week 1, I will donate to the airplane banner.
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: doom on November 15, 2010, 08:20:51 AM
Why does everyone think Tuggle or Sams will do anything next year?  Snyder will definitely start Klein.  No question whatsoever.

game management

I think Snyder can game manage with Tuggle and have a better chance at getting 3rd down conversions with short completions. 
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: Rams on November 15, 2010, 08:23:39 AM
Snyder will keep Klein at QB, he'll want legit competition for Tuggle and Sams.  And don't be surprised if he's not the starter at least to begin the fall.

 :facepalm:

You wouldn't be surprised by this would you?

If Klein starts week 1, I will donate to the airplane banner.

in
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: felix rex on November 15, 2010, 09:03:43 AM
So can OB make a passer out of him? And how many posters bitçhing about Klein not starting now will be bitÇhing about him starting next year?

I'm almost positive that I will.
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: 1992 on November 15, 2010, 09:32:19 AM
We're down 7?
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: CNS on November 15, 2010, 09:54:44 AM
Snyder will keep Klein at QB, he'll want legit competition for Tuggle and Sams.  And don't be surprised if he's not the starter at least to begin the fall.

 :facepalm:

You wouldn't be surprised by this would you?

If Klein starts week 1, I will donate to the airplane banner.

The CK hype machine will be in full effect by early summer.  Prepare for his Spring game to by Coffman-esque.

By the time Sept gets here, some will be wondering which team will actually be able to stop CK under center and what other position Tuggle would be good at and what team on our schedule may actually be able to beat us.

It is going to be rough ridin' awful.

I am in on the banner pool if the above takes place. 
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: jtksu on November 15, 2010, 11:41:55 AM
Tuggle is a december grad, right?  That should help give him time to learn the playbook.
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: kougar24 on November 15, 2010, 02:10:06 PM
Snyder will keep Klein at QB, he'll want legit competition for Tuggle and Sams.

Explain how "legit competition" and Collin Klein are related in any way.
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 15, 2010, 02:12:41 PM
Snyder will keep Klein at QB, he'll want legit competition for Tuggle and Sams.

Explain how "legit competition" and Collin Klein are related in any way.

Yeah, I think the "legit competition" would be between Tuggle and Sams. Even if both were to decommit, I think I would be on the Billy Cosh bandwagon.
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: michigancat on November 15, 2010, 02:13:10 PM
Isn't Klein responsible for Snyder's biggest win since 2003?
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: kso_FAN on November 15, 2010, 02:22:21 PM
Snyder will keep Klein at QB, he'll want legit competition for Tuggle and Sams.

Explain how "legit competition" and Collin Klein are related in any way.

Just because you don't like CK doesn't mean he doesn't supply a QB with 2 years experience in Snyder's system that could get better and legitimately provide competition to two guys that haven't even set foot on campus yet. 

Most of you would've thrown E3 under the bus after his SO year as well.  Now, by no means am I saying CK is the next E3, but guys do and have made improvements over the course of their careers under Snyder before.  No reason to believe CK couldn't be a viable option at QB next year, and this is especially true if he has Tuggle and Sams as competition.
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: kougar24 on November 15, 2010, 02:27:43 PM
Most of you would've thrown E3 under the bus after his SO year as well. 

Nuh uh, E3 was black. We knew he'd be good.
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: kso_FAN on November 15, 2010, 02:29:10 PM
Most of you would've thrown E3 under the bus after his SO year as well.  

Nuh uh, E3 was black. We knew he'd be good.

Like clockwork...   :grin:
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 15, 2010, 02:32:36 PM
Isn't Klein responsible for Snyder's biggest win since 2003?

Partly, though I would say that UCLA, Iowa State, and UCF are all much better teams than Texas this year.
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: kstatefreak42 on November 15, 2010, 03:26:21 PM
Klein is a horrible Quarterback, but a solid running back. HE will be a WR next year. If he isnt i'll kill myself.
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: jtksu on November 15, 2010, 03:29:57 PM
Klein is a horrible Quarterback, but a solid running back. HE will be a WR next year. If he isnt i'll kill myself.

I would like to see him @ WR as well but we're going to be pretty damn loaded there for the rest of his playing career.  I'm really kinda warming up to the thought of him maybe moving to TE. 
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 15, 2010, 03:35:56 PM
Klein is a horrible Quarterback, but a solid running back. HE will be a WR next year. If he isnt i'll kill myself.

I would like to see him @ WR as well but we're going to be pretty damn loaded there for the rest of his playing career.  I'm really kinda warming up to the thought of him maybe moving to TE. 

Klein could be very good in the slot. I just don't see him becoming a good enough blocker to be a good tight end.
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: jtksu on November 15, 2010, 03:47:00 PM
Klein is a horrible Quarterback, but a solid running back. HE will be a WR next year. If he isnt i'll kill myself.

I would like to see him @ WR as well but we're going to be pretty damn loaded there for the rest of his playing career.  I'm really kinda warming up to the thought of him maybe moving to TE. 

Klein could be very good in the slot. I just don't see him becoming a good enough blocker to be a good tight end.

Aren't slot guys typically smaller and faster?  Tremaine Thompson, Percy Harvin, Wes Welker types?  And I'm not thinking of him as a great blocking TE, more of a receiver than TE.  Seems like most teams carry two types of TEs-  ones for blocking purposes and ones for receiving purposes.
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: michigancat on November 15, 2010, 03:59:04 PM
Isn't Klein responsible for Snyder's biggest win since 2003?

Partly, though I would say that UCLA, Iowa State, and UCF are all much better teams than Texas this year.

Damn, lots of big-time wins to choose from there.  It's tough.
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: Cire on November 15, 2010, 06:22:16 PM
Most of you would've thrown E3 under the bus after his SO year as well. 

Nuh uh, E3 was black. We knew he'd be good.

Like clockwork...   :grin:

yeah but ell had the OU game.
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: Pett on November 15, 2010, 06:48:39 PM
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Top 2-game rushing performances by a K-State quarterback
1. Collin Klein (2010) 268 - Texas/Missouri
2. Ell Roberson (2001) 250 - Iowa St/Nebraska
3. Michael Bishop (1998) 244 - Nebraska/Missouri

:surprised:
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: chum1 on November 15, 2010, 07:22:43 PM
It means we have yet more evidence that Roberson is waaaaaaay overrated by K-State fans.
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: Andy on November 15, 2010, 07:48:38 PM
if klein is the starter next fall i'll be happy because it isn't carson.
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: felix rex on November 15, 2010, 07:55:55 PM
Most of you would've thrown E3 under the bus after his SO year as well. 

Nuh uh, E3 was black. We knew he'd be good.

Like clockwork...   :grin:

yeah but ell had the OU game.

omg I listened to that on internet radio while traveling. one of my fave moral victories.
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: jtksu on November 15, 2010, 07:57:56 PM
Pretty sure we won that game, bro. 
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: felix rex on November 15, 2010, 08:01:15 PM
Pretty sure we won that game, bro. 

was thinking 01 game
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: Winters on November 15, 2010, 08:40:48 PM
Klein plays his heart out :lynchmob:
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: CNS on November 15, 2010, 09:08:02 PM
if klein is the starter next fall i'll be happy because it isn't carson.

Jesus, Bill has ruined you already.
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 16, 2010, 08:09:21 AM
Quote
Top 2-game rushing performances by a K-State quarterback
1. Collin Klein (2010) 268 - Texas/Missouri
2. Ell Roberson (2001) 250 - Iowa St/Nebraska
3. Michael Bishop (1998) 244 - Nebraska/Missouri

:surprised:

The key difference here is that Ell Roberson and Michael Bishop also had better than single digit passing yards in those games.
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 16, 2010, 08:13:55 AM
Klein is a horrible Quarterback, but a solid running back. HE will be a WR next year. If he isnt i'll kill myself.

I would like to see him @ WR as well but we're going to be pretty damn loaded there for the rest of his playing career.  I'm really kinda warming up to the thought of him maybe moving to TE. 

Klein could be very good in the slot. I just don't see him becoming a good enough blocker to be a good tight end.

Aren't slot guys typically smaller and faster?  Tremaine Thompson, Percy Harvin, Wes Welker types?  And I'm not thinking of him as a great blocking TE, more of a receiver than TE.  Seems like most teams carry two types of TEs-  ones for blocking purposes and ones for receiving purposes.

Typically, but not always. In short yardage situations, it is better to have a big target, especially one with as much speed as Klein. If we ran a west coast offense, I wouldn't mind Klein at TE, but in Snyder's offense, it just seems to me that lining up Klein there would tip the defense off that we are going to pass.
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: Sugar Dick on November 16, 2010, 09:03:09 AM

Most of you would've thrown threw (or would've if you weren't still messin' your drawers) E3 under the bus after his SO year as well. 

fyp
Title: Re: What exactly does this mean?
Post by: hatingfrancisco on November 17, 2010, 11:41:38 PM
Klein could be very good in the slot. I just don't see him becoming a good enough blocker to be a good tight end.

Good catch there, the first thing I look for in a quarterback is to see if he can block for crap....  The tendencies are there, you just have to have a good eye for such a thing.   

Nice job!