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Title: redshirt
Post by: swish1 on November 12, 2010, 11:11:31 PM
seems like someone should actually redshirt this year.  maybe southwell or williams?
Title: Re: redshirt
Post by: steve dave on November 12, 2010, 11:12:25 PM
would be very unfrankish but I'm for it.  esp. for nino who was going to prep anyway until the last minute.
Title: Re: redshirt
Post by: Acceleration Man on November 12, 2010, 11:15:24 PM
FWIW, Martin said on the postgame that Nino had a concussion in practice like 2 days ago and was still on the south side of knowing which way was up.
Title: Re: redshirt
Post by: swish1 on November 12, 2010, 11:18:14 PM
i didnt get to hear the post game that is interesting about the concussion.  but southwell didnt play tonight either.  one of them should redshirt imo.
Title: Re: redshirt
Post by: steve dave on November 12, 2010, 11:21:58 PM
usually you redshirt the not ready or garbage parts of your class.  frank is lucky that every member of his last few classes has fit that description.  :surprised:
Title: Re: redshirt
Post by: jtksu on November 12, 2010, 11:24:03 PM
I don't want to redshirt anybody.  We need all the bodies we can run out there- especially dudes like Southwell who can defend and play 3 different positions.  Maybe Nino, I guess.  But Frank didn't mind using guys like Russell for sporadic minutes and I think that exposure certainly shows in his play this year.  Plus, we may need their redshirts down the road.
Title: Re: redshirt
Post by: swish1 on November 12, 2010, 11:30:32 PM
I don't want to redshirt anybody.  We need all the bodies we can run out there- especially dudes like Southwell who can defend and play 3 different positions.  Maybe Nino, I guess.  But Frank didn't mind using guys like Russell for sporadic minutes and I think that exposure certainly shows in his play this year.  Plus, we may need their redshirts down the road.

we didnt even play southwell tonight with jamsam playing limited minutes.  we dont NEED him or williams this year.
Title: Re: redshirt
Post by: jtksu on November 12, 2010, 11:38:41 PM
We also played freaking James Madison.  When we really start running, our bench depth could be a huge advantage. And Southwell supposedly plays good D- someone who can help when we get into foul trouble.  We haven't redshirted anyone good before, why start now?
Title: Re: redshirt
Post by: Acceleration Man on November 12, 2010, 11:39:07 PM
We have to have somebody to play when Martin puts everyone but Pullen in a jumpsuit.  :surprised:
Title: Re: redshirt
Post by: swish1 on November 12, 2010, 11:40:23 PM
We also played freaking James Madison.  When we really start running, our bench depth could be a huge advantage. And Southwell supposedly plays good D- someone who can help when we get into foul trouble.  We haven't redshirted anyone good before, why start now?

that is only southwell.  there is still williams.  we dont need 7 guards.
Title: Re: redshirt
Post by: jtksu on November 12, 2010, 11:43:00 PM
I said Nino could be a possible redshirt earlier.  But Nino can also play forward- something we may need depth at.  (Foul trubs). If Frank wants to redshirt him, fine, but I doubt he will and I really don't think he should.
Title: Re: redshirt
Post by: swish1 on November 12, 2010, 11:44:28 PM
I said Nino could be a possible redshirt earlier.  But Nino can also play forward- something we may need depth at.  (Foul trubs). If Frank wants to redshirt him, fine, but I doubt he will and I really don't think he should.

i doubt he will but think he should.  also there is myles...
Title: Re: redshirt
Post by: AlwaysEMAW on November 12, 2010, 11:45:15 PM
We also played freaking James Madison.  When we really start running, our bench depth could be a huge advantage. And Southwell supposedly plays good D- someone who can help when we get into foul trouble.  We haven't redshirted anyone good before, why start now?
At some point, so much depth just doesn't matter. We'll have to have a set rotation if we're going to be good, and that's going to leave some guys on the bench, which is looking pretty full
Title: Re: redshirt
Post by: jtksu on November 12, 2010, 11:45:47 PM
Guess we could redshirt Myles.  Would probably be a good move for him considering he'll be leaving next year anyway.
Title: Re: redshirt
Post by: Pett on November 13, 2010, 12:10:20 AM
I hope Nino gets hit in the head hard again so Frank HAS to redshirt him. He's pretty raw and it'd help his game a lot.
Title: Re: redshirt
Post by: steve dave on November 13, 2010, 12:20:51 AM
I hope he just regular reshirsts and doesn't have physical harm come to him like Pett is hoping for  :frown:
Title: Re: redshirt
Post by: jtksu on November 13, 2010, 12:21:26 AM
Pett is really an bad person.
Title: Re: redshirt
Post by: swish1 on November 13, 2010, 12:23:16 AM
does anyone know why southwell didnt play tonight?
Title: Re: redshirt
Post by: steve dave on November 13, 2010, 12:27:51 AM
does anyone know why southwell didnt play tonight?

cause he's not ready for big time hoops :dunno:
Title: Re: redshirt
Post by: jtksu on November 13, 2010, 12:28:55 AM
Probably didn't practice well.  Remember when Rodney went for like twenty last then barely left the bench for like 2 weeks? 
Title: Re: redshirt
Post by: skycat on November 13, 2010, 01:44:07 PM
Devon Peterson is the only guy eligible to redshirt now, because he hasn't played. Everyone else has. Yes, exhibitions count.
Title: Re: redshirt
Post by: jtksu on November 13, 2010, 02:22:27 PM
No they don't Evan Anderson is redshirting for Wisconsin after playing in both exhibitions. 
Title: Re: redshirt
Post by: skycat on November 13, 2010, 02:52:52 PM
No they don't Evan Anderson is redshirting for Wisconsin after playing in both exhibitions. 

My bad. I see the NCAA changed this rule so that freshmen can play in exhibition games and still redshirt.
Title: Re: redshirt
Post by: scottwildcat on November 13, 2010, 03:13:44 PM
No they don't Evan Anderson is redshirting for Wisconsin after playing in both exhibitions. 

My bad. I see the NCAA changed this rule so that freshmen can play in exhibition games and still redshirt.
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