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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: michigancat on October 25, 2010, 08:44:23 AM

Title: would you support this?
Post by: michigancat on October 25, 2010, 08:44:23 AM
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/federal-budget-statistics-1110

why or why not?

Seems fine to me.  :dunno:
Title: Re: would you support this?
Post by: hemmy on October 25, 2010, 08:48:23 AM
They should get rid of OSHA, I don't like them.
Title: Re: would you support this?
Post by: Sugar Dick on October 25, 2010, 09:44:13 AM
They should get rid of OSHA, I don't like them.

and HUD
Title: Re: would you support this?
Post by: steve dave on October 25, 2010, 11:43:37 AM
Read that this weekend over consecutive trips to the can.  Thought to myself on the can, "Yeah, they should prolly just go ahead and do all this"
Title: Re: would you support this?
Post by: OK_Cat on October 25, 2010, 11:49:13 AM
not a fan of ditching NASA's plans.  We need to hurry up and get to Earth II 
Title: Re: would you support this?
Post by: CNS on October 25, 2010, 12:23:51 PM
They should get rid of OSHA, I don't like them.

Horrible idea.
Title: Re: would you support this?
Post by: Jeffy on October 25, 2010, 01:00:34 PM
They should get rid of OSHA, I don't like them.

Horrible idea.


You're right.  Start with the EPA.
Title: Re: would you support this?
Post by: Paul Moscow on October 25, 2010, 01:17:43 PM

Whatever keeps Jeffy from huffing car exhaust fumes, I'm all for.
Title: Re: would you support this?
Post by: TBL on October 25, 2010, 02:26:56 PM
Axe the Dept of Education. Other than that, lower spending and lower taxes. Works wonders.
Title: Re: would you support this?
Post by: OK_Cat on October 25, 2010, 02:28:55 PM
Axe the Dept of Education. Other than that, lower spending and lower taxes. Works wonders.

you're an idiot.
Title: Re: would you support this?
Post by: Jeffy on October 25, 2010, 02:32:05 PM
Axe the Dept of Education. Other than that, lower spending and lower taxes. Works wonders.

you're an idiot.

I have more faith in the state school board to make decisions regarding Kansas schools than I do any of the honyocks in DC. 

And once any money is attached to students, we'll all be better off.
Title: Re: would you support this?
Post by: Jeffy on October 25, 2010, 02:33:00 PM

Whatever keeps Jeffy from huffing car exhaust fumes, I'm all for.

Car exhaust fumes cause global warming, so we can't have that.
Title: Re: would you support this?
Post by: TBL on October 25, 2010, 02:33:24 PM
Axe the Dept of Education. Other than that, lower spending and lower taxes. Works wonders.

you're an idiot.


Sorry you feel that way, Mr Pot/Kettle. It's the only thing that will work. Brought the country of the depression of the late teens, early 1920's.
Title: Re: would you support this?
Post by: OK_Cat on October 25, 2010, 02:37:14 PM
i was talking about you wanting to axe the dept of ed.  most people don't have their hillbilly wives homeschool their kids like you did, cop. 
Title: Re: would you support this?
Post by: TBL on October 25, 2010, 02:44:22 PM
i was talking about you wanting to axe the dept of ed.  most people don't have their hillbilly wives homeschool their kids like you did, cop. 



 :lol:       Man, are you funny. Education should be a locally controlled item, not a federal one.
Title: Re: would you support this?
Post by: OK_Cat on October 25, 2010, 02:46:18 PM
for what reasons?  states already have control of their own curriculums and standards. 
Title: Re: would you support this?
Post by: TBL on October 25, 2010, 02:47:39 PM
for what reasons?  states already have control of their own curriculums and standards. 


You just made my point.
Title: Re: would you support this?
Post by: OK_Cat on October 25, 2010, 02:50:33 PM
not really.  why change things?
Title: Re: would you support this?
Post by: Jeffy on October 25, 2010, 02:57:40 PM
not really.  why change things?

Hope and Change... That's why!
Title: Re: would you support this?
Post by: OK_Cat on October 25, 2010, 02:59:51 PM
jesus christ, you guys hold grudges a really, really, really long time.
Title: Re: would you support this?
Post by: Sugar Dick on October 25, 2010, 03:52:34 PM
not really.  why change things?

looks like you're having a "michigancat moment"
Title: Re: would you support this?
Post by: OK_Cat on October 25, 2010, 04:30:38 PM
ok, sugar dick.
Title: Re: would you support this?
Post by: Sugar Dick on October 25, 2010, 04:34:38 PM
ok, sugar dick.

still going
Title: Re: would you support this?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 25, 2010, 05:28:02 PM
Some of it looks good . . . this is awful:

The current federal gas tax is 18.4 cents per gallon, but the commission proposes to increase the federal gas tax, gradually and beginning in 2013, so that in 2020, it would be $1.18 cents per gallon. This would not only generate significant revenue but also reduce consumption of gas, reduce carbon emissions, and provide an incentive to automakers to increase the fuel efficiency of their vehicles.

Projected Revenue: $130 billion


Title: Re: would you support this?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 25, 2010, 05:58:22 PM
Some of it looks good . . . this is awful:

The current federal gas tax is 18.4 cents per gallon, but the commission proposes to increase the federal gas tax, gradually and beginning in 2013, so that in 2020, it would be $1.18 cents per gallon. This would not only generate significant revenue but also reduce consumption of gas, reduce carbon emissions, and provide an incentive to automakers to increase the fuel efficiency of their vehicles.

Projected Revenue: $130 billion




Agreed. Raising income taxes would be much better than raising the gas tax.
Title: Re: would you support this?
Post by: Jeffy on October 25, 2010, 07:27:02 PM
Some of it looks good . . . this is awful:

The current federal gas tax is 18.4 cents per gallon, but the commission proposes to increase the federal gas tax, gradually and beginning in 2013, so that in 2020, it would be $1.18 cents per gallon. This would not only generate significant revenue but also reduce consumption of gas, reduce carbon emissions, and provide an incentive to automakers to increase the fuel efficiency of their vehicles.

Projected Revenue: $130 billion




Just eliminate some (all) of the subsidies within the oil industry (and farm industry for ethanol) and the price would increase on its own, generating more sales tax.
Title: Re: would you support this?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 25, 2010, 08:42:35 PM
:lol:       Man, are you funny. Education should be a locally controlled item, not a federal one.

The federal department of education does more harm than good, but they are a necessary evil because they mandate that states properly fund programs like special education that would otherwise either get underfunded or not funded at all. The federal department of education should spend less time evaluating the performance of schools and teachers and just set regulations and provide funding to schools that follow those regulations. I don't know a single teacher that is happy with the amount of standardized tests and paperwork that they have on an annual basis.