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Title: _FANalysis - NU Aftermath and KU
Post by: kso_FAN on October 12, 2010, 10:57:53 AM
Read if you wish.  Focused on the many defensive issues this week.

http://goEMAW.com/blog/?p=325
Title: Re: _FANalysis - NU Aftermath and KU
Post by: T42YS on October 12, 2010, 11:03:15 AM
it's like a warm blanket of HFBIQ to wrap yourself up in on a cold winter's day :AA:
Title: Re: _FANalysis - NU Aftermath and KU
Post by: kso_FAN on October 12, 2010, 11:12:31 AM
It may be beneficial to watch this after/while you read.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdIIPnI8laQ
Title: Re: _FANalysis - NU Aftermath and KU
Post by: CHONGS on October 12, 2010, 11:46:16 AM
solid 'nalysis as usual
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: _FANalysis - NU Aftermath and KU
Post by: kstatefreak42 on October 12, 2010, 11:48:32 AM
Read if you wish.  Focused on the many defensive issues this week.

http://goEMAW.com/blog/?p=325
I would love to do a FANalysis.
Title: Re: _FANalysis - NU Aftermath and KU
Post by: CHONGS on October 12, 2010, 11:50:28 AM
Read if you wish.  Focused on the many defensive issues this week.

http://goEMAW.com/blog/?p=325
I would love to do a FANalysis.
So do one, if you do a good enough job we will give you regular column as well.  PM me if you want or just open a new thread and post it there.
Title: Re: _FANalysis - NU Aftermath and KU
Post by: kstatefreak42 on October 12, 2010, 11:53:10 AM
Read if you wish.  Focused on the many defensive issues this week.

http://goEMAW.com/blog/?p=325
I would love to do a FANalysis.
So do one, if you do a good enough job we will give you regular column as well.  PM me if you want or just open a new thread and post it there.
Sounds great.
Title: Re: _FANalysis - NU Aftermath and KU
Post by: Pete on October 12, 2010, 11:56:20 AM
Good stuff.
Title: Re: _FANalysis - NU Aftermath and KU
Post by: Bookcat on October 12, 2010, 03:58:01 PM
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Play 3: Martinez 80 yard run; QB Delay Draw.

NU was in 3rd and long, so K-State essentually played a 3-3 look with Lamur spying Martinez.  We were in 12 coverage, playing man on the underneath 4 recievers with 2 high safties.  NU ran the perfect play call against this defense.  We had 2 DEs and a NG, so essentually 2 gaps were free from the TE to the C and NU was able to get blockers off to the 2nd level.  The OT picked up the contain DE, the RG and RB kicked Lamur (who was essentially the ILB) out, and the backside OG was able to get off onto Ferguson, our 2nd ILB in this look.  Then Butler had man coverage on the TE and by the time he read run, it was too late for him to be part of the play.  Again, we had 2 deep safeties, one of which ran into the umpire with his pursuit angle, the other got blocked by NU’s 2nd reciever to the playside, thus Martinez was off and the infamous “Techmo Bowl” pic was born.

Translation.....their oline gouged the crap out of our front seven to open up the "red sea"..... and our safeties whiffed cuz they are gimpy. The end.
Title: Re: _FANalysis - NU Aftermath and KU
Post by: ew2x4 on October 12, 2010, 04:26:26 PM
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Play 3: Martinez 80 yard run; QB Delay Draw.

NU was in 3rd and long, so K-State essentually played a 3-3 look with Lamur spying Martinez.  We were in 12 coverage, playing man on the underneath 4 recievers with 2 high safties.  NU ran the perfect play call against this defense.  We had 2 DEs and a NG, so essentually 2 gaps were free from the TE to the C and NU was able to get blockers off to the 2nd level.  The OT picked up the contain DE, the RG and RB kicked Lamur (who was essentially the ILB) out, and the backside OG was able to get off onto Ferguson, our 2nd ILB in this look.  Then Butler had man coverage on the TE and by the time he read run, it was too late for him to be part of the play.  Again, we had 2 deep safeties, one of which ran into the umpire with his pursuit angle, the other got blocked by NU’s 2nd reciever to the playside, thus Martinez was off and the infamous “Techmo Bowl” pic was born.

Translation.....their oline gouged the crap out of our front seven to open up the "red sea"..... and our safeties whiffed cuz they are gimpy. The end.

We had whiffs on all levels. The sad thing is, one missed tackle resulted in a TD that many times.
Title: Re: _FANalysis - NU Aftermath and KU
Post by: slimz on October 12, 2010, 04:37:43 PM
It may be beneficial to watch this after/while you read.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdIIPnI8laQ

That was NOT beneficial. I hadn't seen anything except my bottom corner endzone view of the game. Now I'm even more depressed about our lack of size, strength, and speed on the defensive side of the ball.
Title: Re: _FANalysis - NU Aftermath and KU
Post by: SabiNation on October 12, 2010, 04:53:29 PM
Here's my FANalysis for the NU game...they had T-Magic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnDT7YWTWmo

Just nothing we could have done... :dunno:   :frown:
Title: Re: _FANalysis - NU Aftermath and KU
Post by: "storm"nut on October 12, 2010, 05:00:43 PM
Here's my FANalysis for the NU game...they had T-Magic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnDT7YWTWmo

Just nothing we could have done... :dunno:   :frown:

Apparently the gay problem up in Lincoln did not end with the Wrestling Team.
Title: Re: _FANalysis - NU Aftermath and KU
Post by: kso_FAN on October 14, 2010, 11:54:44 AM
Mandel from SI with more on NU's zone read scheme.  Good stuff.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stewart_mandel/10/14/nebraska-offense/index.html?eref=twitter_feed
Title: Re: _FANalysis - NU Aftermath and KU
Post by: ManBearTurkey on October 14, 2010, 12:42:23 PM
I haven't been able to stomach watching the replay but would it be accurate to say that after half and right before it, that they switched their reads from end to the three tech and made it more of a midline option read as opposed to a zone read?

And because of that, we didn't realize it until the game was toast?

And we were like-- "oh wtf? They are reading the 3 tech now, not the end! DOH! Okay, well that explains why we gave up 20 plays of 60+ yards or something."

 Kind of like, we thought we were outsmarting them by crashing with the end (or whatever the eff the end was doing) but the end didn't even rough ridin' matter and they were like lolz these idiots still think we are reading that guy. dum dum dum.

Also--If that isn't that case, please don't say it, because that is what I am going with. For my mental health.
Title: Re: _FANalysis - NU Aftermath and KU
Post by: kso_FAN on October 14, 2010, 12:56:15 PM
I haven't been able to stomach watching the replay but would it be accurate to say that after half and right before it, that they switched their reads from end to the three tech and made it more of a midline option read as opposed to a zone read?

And because of that, we didn't realize it until the game was toast?

And we were like-- "oh wtf? They are reading the 3 tech now, not the end! DOH! Okay, well that explains why we gave up 20 plays of 60+ yards or something."

 Kind of like, we thought we were outsmarting them by crashing with the end (or whatever the eff the end was doing) but the end didn't even effing matter and they were like lolz these idiots still think we are reading that guy. dum dum dum.

Also--If that isn't that case, please don't say it, because that is what I am going with. For my mental health.

I think it would be safe to say they varied their reads throughout as they called zone read.  Regardless of the read, the thing NU exploited was not our guys making bad decisions in playing off of our keys, most of the time the keys were read correctly.  But what they did exploit was defenders, mainly the ILBs and safeties, taking poor angles and making incorrect run fits.  But this really wasn't a suprise b/c we've faced the same issue all year, NU just had the players to make 10-20 yard runs into 30+ yard runs.