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Title: Comparing Turner to Ron is stupid
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2010, 11:15:43 PM
Yes, they both have similar "change the game" philosophies on how things are done.  But, Ron is a piece of crap.  Turner is a genuinely good guy.  These two things cannot be stated enough.  While they both have weird names for the H-Back and move players to absurd positions the similarities stop when you get to them as human beings.  I mean, Turner completely changed the culture of the program that the Big 12 coach of the year and Orange Bowl winning coach established and Ron did the same for K-State with everything Bill had ingrained, but Ron is a doucher and Turner is a guy I would help move his furniture if he asked.  Turner beat Georgia Tech who was ranked in the top 15 for anyone who chooses to overlook that.  Ron never beat Georgia Tech.  That's a fact.
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 17, 2010, 11:19:29 PM
Yes, they both have similar "change the game" philosophies on how things are done.  But, Ron is a piece of feces.  Turner is a genuinely good guy.  These two things cannot be stated enough.  While they both have weird names for the H-Back and move players to absurd positions the similarities stop when you get to them as human beings.  I mean, Turner completely changed the culture of the program that the Big 12 coach of the year and Orange Bowl winning coach established and Ron did the same for K-State with everything Bill had ingrained, but Ron is a doucher and Turner is a guy I would help move his furniture if he asked.  Turner beat Georgia Tech who was ranked in the top 15 for anyone who chooses to overlook that.  Ron never beat Georgia Tech.  That's a fact.

facts is facts
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: OK_Cat on September 17, 2010, 11:23:04 PM
when it comes to shitty coaches, i compare them based on how many assistants end up becoming nfl head coaches.

sorry, turner.   :surprised:
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2010, 11:23:38 PM
THAT'S A FACT!
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: kcchiefdav on September 17, 2010, 11:23:45 PM
More differences...

Gill can stand on the sidelines without sweating through his shirt. Prince cannot.
Turner looks like he works out...Ron does not
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: WillieWatanabe on September 17, 2010, 11:23:49 PM
Impossible to hate gill. Impossible.
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2010, 11:28:47 PM
Listen, I've gotten some bad feedback about how Turner hired a bunch of recruiters but has ended up making sketchy offers to no-talents that nobody else recruited and this being very similar to what Ronald Prince did at K-State.  Did any of you REJECTS think that maybe Turner actually had a bunch of diamonds in the rough?  Did you retards forget that Jordy Nelson was a WALKON!?  You ever heard of Marcus Watts?  Huh?
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: kougar24 on September 17, 2010, 11:29:36 PM
Yes, they both have similar "change the game" philosophies on how things are done.  But, Ron is a piece of feces.  Turner is a genuinely good guy.  These two things cannot be stated enough.

False. You already stated them enough. :nono:
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2010, 11:29:58 PM
DID YOU!?
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 17, 2010, 11:31:12 PM
Got Damn those are some FACTS.

Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: Cartierfor3 on September 17, 2010, 11:34:03 PM
Whitlock called Gill a skinny Art Shell.  I like that.
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: nicname on September 17, 2010, 11:39:57 PM
I actually think RP could have been successful if he wasnt such an ass an ran off all his better assistants and then replaced them with dudes like tibesar.
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2010, 11:42:18 PM
Has anyone even given consideration to the culture having to change before the success comes?  You cannot move your best players at any given position to a new spot and expect to have instant results.  Have any of you moved your undersized LB to DE?  How about your best RB to LB and not even playing him?  You CAN get instant results from the fanbase though.  You can have a class for the community, have the fans take an oath, have the team appear for clean up projects, etc.  The culture can change, and the team will follow.  I hate you people.
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2010, 11:43:54 PM
HAVE YOU!?
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: Dr. Funke on September 17, 2010, 11:56:22 PM
Here's the deal:  Ron Prince came to Kansas State University to be scary smart and prove to everyone that people with FUPs have souls.  Let's not get it twisted.  He stomped his way to the same amount of non losing Big 12 conference seasons as Mark Mangino.  Two FUPs, one cup.  Anyone that wants to argue that fact can wonk off Wyatt Thompson.  WYYYYYYYYYYLDCAT TOUCHDOWN.  SHORT STORY LONG: LEAVE RON PRINCE ALONE.  HE'S FROM JUNCTION CITY.  JUNCTION CITY HAS A RADICAL WALMART.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: jtksu on September 18, 2010, 02:16:38 AM
Wait, Gill is black?!  When the eff did this happen?
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: wabash909 on September 18, 2010, 07:13:22 AM
Has anyone even given consideration to the culture having to change before the success comes?  

This cannot be overstated!  Turner is changing an almost unspeakable culture of abuse and personal destruction.  And he's doing it the right way.  Positiviry doesn't come overnight and neither do the wins.  Big difference was Ron never had this mountain to climb.



Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: Dirty Sanchez on September 18, 2010, 07:35:11 AM
ron: bunny ears
turner: no bunny ears (yet)
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: The Whale on September 18, 2010, 07:49:29 AM
Fact:  Ron plows his assistants wives.  Turner prays with them.
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: KSUTOMMY on September 18, 2010, 08:04:24 AM
Has anyone even given consideration to the culture having to change before the success comes?  You cannot move your best players at any given position to a new spot and expect to have instant results.  Have any of you moved your undersized LB to DE?  How about your best RB to LB and not even playing him?  You CAN get instant results from the fanbase though.  You can have a class for the community, have the fans take an oath, have the team appear for clean up projects, etc.  The culture can change, and the team will follow.  I hate you people.

IMO, the only similarities are that they're both black, Turner being who he is makes him totally opposite. I understand your football references, but since Ron was so devoid of substance and class; I whole-heartedly agree comparing them is worthless.

FWIW Steve, I love you, man.
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: steve dave on September 18, 2010, 08:09:13 AM
FWIW Steve, I love you, man.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 18, 2010, 08:28:59 AM
If this board had a HOF, SD's work in this thread would be one of the lead exhibits .  .  . just fantastic, and oh so true.

Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 18, 2010, 08:37:25 AM
FWIW Steve, I love you, man.

 :thumbsup:
Is this the guy, that you hinted at that you boinked his wife?
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: steve dave on September 18, 2010, 08:41:35 AM
FWIW Steve, I love you, man.

 :thumbsup:
Is this the guy, that you hinted at that you boinked his wife?

I say that about everyone's wife, so prolly.  In most instances it is not true. 
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: KSUTOMMY on September 18, 2010, 08:43:48 AM
FWIW Steve, I love you, man.

 :thumbsup:
Is this the guy, that you hinted at that you boinked his wife?

Yeah, SD and I hugged and made up (metaphorically)... he did shag my sister though, the thought of it reminded me of midget wrestling.
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: Pittcat on September 18, 2010, 08:48:26 AM
FWIW Steve, I love you, man.

 :thumbsup:
Is this the guy, that you hinted at that you boinked his wife?

Yeah, SD and I hugged and made up (metaphorically)... he did shag my sister though, the thought of it reminded me of midget wrestling.

Your sister's a midget? 

Also, once when I was driving up to Grisanti's in Omaha I saw what I swear to this day was an Asian midget prostitute.  I kinda freaked out.  My wife didn't find it nearly as intriguing.
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: KSUTOMMY on September 18, 2010, 08:57:00 AM
FWIW Steve, I love you, man.

 :thumbsup:
Is this the guy, that you hinted at that you boinked his wife?

Yeah, SD and I hugged and made up (metaphorically)... he did shag my sister though, the thought of it reminded me of midget wrestling.

Your sister's a midget? 

Also, once when I was driving up to Grisanti's in Omaha I saw what I swear to this day was an Asian midget prostitute.  I kinda freaked out.  My wife didn't find it nearly as intriguing.

WOW, that's almost like seeing the Sasquatch, Loch Ness Monster or a heterosexual uk fan.
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: kso_FAN on September 18, 2010, 09:01:52 AM
Gill has no stomp*.

HAS NO STOMP!1!1


*that I'm aware of.
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: deputy dawg on September 18, 2010, 09:48:23 AM
All of you have failed to observe how smoothly eloquent both Prince Ron and Gill are.  Both have persuasive football-speak.  I have to agree that their characters are MUCH different, unless Gill is doing "Bunny" at that bar in Hays.
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: Pittcat on September 18, 2010, 10:03:19 AM
All of you have failed to observe how smoothly eloquent both Prince Ron and Gill are.  Both have persuasive football-speak.  I have to agree that their characters are MUCH different, unless Gill is doing "Bunny" at that bar in Hays.

How long before Gill dons a Jamaica colors stoner beanie or whatever the ku equivalent to a cowboy hat is?
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: Benja on September 18, 2010, 10:10:22 AM
Look at their names, people. I mean, it starts and stops for me right there. Ron Prince, Turner Gill. I mean seriously, Ron Prince? Who does this rough ridin' guy think he is? Goddamned royalty? Because of his last name I mean?

But Tuner Gill? I can't even type that without smiling. He sounds like the kind of guy you want coaching your kids tee-ball team. You just know he goes next door and mows some old lady's lawn every weekend and takes some time to listen to her old-timey stories and pet her cats before he leaves. That's the kind of name that always hosts poker night and never forgets a plastic bag to pick up crap when he walks his dog.

Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: doom on September 18, 2010, 10:22:29 AM
Ron Prince would have never scored only 3pts against NDSU.  Win or lose he would have run flea flickers or fall down punts until he at least had 2 td's.
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is stupid
Post by: Cire on September 18, 2010, 10:51:30 AM
Ron Prince would have never scored only 3pts against NDSU.  Win or lose he would have run flea flickers or fall down punts until he at least had 2 td's.

this.

the offense was never a problem with ron.
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is stupid
Post by: OregonSmock on September 18, 2010, 05:04:21 PM
steve dave (a gopowertard.com talking point)
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is stupid
Post by: wabash909 on September 18, 2010, 05:10:26 PM
1-2
 :lol:
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is stupid
Post by: OregonSmock on September 18, 2010, 05:16:10 PM
1-2
 :lol:




...but the one win was amazingly fun.
 

:love:
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is stupid
Post by: wabash909 on September 18, 2010, 05:24:05 PM
1-2
 :lol:




...but the one win was amazingly fun.
 

:love:


We've been there.

We've been there.





Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is stupid
Post by: Dirty Sanchez on September 18, 2010, 06:42:18 PM
Its the goatee.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.buffalo.edu%2Fnews%2Fhires%2FTurnerGill.jpg&hash=bf939dc345920bcd16a0386633ed4a6b64f4e6fe)
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Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is stupid
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 18, 2010, 06:44:58 PM
1-2
 :lol:




...but the one win was amazingly fun.
 

:love:

YOUR 2010 JAYHAWKS!!
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is stupid
Post by: hemmy on September 18, 2010, 06:54:55 PM
Remember Ron pre-facial hair?  God he looked ridiculous.
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is stupid
Post by: jtksu on September 18, 2010, 07:06:48 PM
1-2
 :lol:




...but the one win was amazingly fun.
 

:love:

They can't take that away from you bro, they can't ever take that away. 
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is stupid
Post by: steve dave on September 18, 2010, 07:44:17 PM
steve dave (a gopowertard.com talking point)

 :confused: This is the opposite of a GPC talking point
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is stupid
Post by: TBL on September 18, 2010, 07:58:50 PM
SD would give TG a reach around. If given the chance.


It's a fact
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is stupid
Post by: steve dave on September 18, 2010, 08:30:01 PM
SD would give TG a reach around. If given the chance.


It's a fact

I like him, Beems apparently doesn't
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is stupid
Post by: TBL on September 18, 2010, 08:42:13 PM
SD would give TG a reach around. If given the chance.


It's a fact

I like him, Beems apparently doesn't


Must not have noticed the italics.
Title: Re: Comparing Turner to Ron is a stupid
Post by: Hurricane Cat on September 18, 2010, 09:22:46 PM
All of you have failed to observe how smoothly eloquent both Prince Ron and Gill are.  Both have persuasive football-speak.  I have to agree that their characters are MUCH different, unless Gill is doing "Bunny" at that bar in Hays.

How long before Gill dons a Jamaica colors stoner beanie or whatever the ku equivalent to a cowboy hat is?


nice  :thumbsup: