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Title: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: hemmy on September 11, 2010, 10:13:24 PM
Both lines got DOMINATED, we lucked out on some plays that could have made this very similar to La-La in 2008

God we suck.  :flush:
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: Panjandrum on September 11, 2010, 10:15:55 PM
Very underwhelming game.  Glad I skipped this one.
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on September 11, 2010, 10:17:17 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: hemmy on September 11, 2010, 10:18:30 PM
gmafb Daris.
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: Pittcat on September 11, 2010, 10:21:13 PM
It's sounded good on Wyattvision.  Of course I've been drinking since noon.  


One thing for sure, I am full blown in the Daris Camp.  CCq does not screw up.  He is a game manager capable of putting up great stats.
























 :powerespect:
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: ksudrew on September 11, 2010, 10:44:40 PM
Both lines got DOMINATED, we lucked out on some plays that could have made this very similar to La-La in 2008

God we suck.  :flush:

life's a biatch and then you die
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: hemmy on September 11, 2010, 10:46:37 PM
Both lines got DOMINATED, we lucked out on some plays that could have made this very similar to La-La in 2008

God we suck.  :flush:

life's a biatch and then you die

eff you
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 11, 2010, 10:46:52 PM
Felt like we hit the snooze button and put it on cruise control. Game was very very  :zzz:
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: ksudrew on September 11, 2010, 10:55:43 PM
Both lines got DOMINATED, we lucked out on some plays that could have made this very similar to La-La in 2008

God we suck.  :flush:

life's a biatch and then you die

shazbot! you

mrs catmatt is my attorney . . .
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: mcmwcat on September 11, 2010, 11:02:39 PM
stats make it look like defense got trounced.  can any witnesses confirm?  over 400 yards allowed  :confused:
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: CHONGS on September 11, 2010, 11:03:20 PM
stats make it look like defense got trounced.  can any witnesses confirm?  over 400 yards allowed  :confused:
I can confirm.  99 yard drive right up our asses sealed the deal.
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: Pittcat on September 11, 2010, 11:04:25 PM
I'm saying the defense very vanilla-ishly mailed it in for the 2nd half.
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: CHONGS on September 11, 2010, 11:06:31 PM
I'm saying the defense very vanilla-ishly mailed it in for the 2nd half.
I'm saying they ran it down the middle and kicked our d-line's ass.
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: hemmy on September 11, 2010, 11:10:47 PM
defense blows
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: jtksu on September 11, 2010, 11:25:04 PM
This board is even worse than GPC, only in reverse.  The team averaged 6.3ypc and gave up 2 sacks.  Man, our line GOT DOMINATED!!!!!  I can't believe how stupid the majority of you are.  How are you guys even able to feed yourselves, let alone log in to this site?
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: Pendergast on September 11, 2010, 11:29:30 PM
17 points and 220+ yards in the last 20 minutes of scrub time?


 :zzz:
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: OK_Cat on September 11, 2010, 11:30:30 PM
Our defense is disgustingly horrible. 
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: nicname on September 11, 2010, 11:46:06 PM
our defense was bad, but hemmy is known for being a pessimist.
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: hemmy on September 11, 2010, 11:54:34 PM
17 points and 220+ yards in the last 20 minutes of scrub time?


 :zzz:

Hardly scrub time.  Majority of the players on the field were starters/regulars
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: Pendergast on September 12, 2010, 12:06:17 AM
Wow so at lease half of the starters were still in?  Shouldn't be any decrease in efficiency there.

JFC, key guys on offense and defense were pulled.  Take a third of the starters from any college team in the country and they're a different team.

It was scrub time.

 :flush:
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: jtksu on September 12, 2010, 12:07:26 AM
Walker, Voelker, Wright, Terrell, Kirk, Melton, Bumpas are regulars/starters?   
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: swish1 on September 12, 2010, 12:08:38 AM
Walker, Voelker, Wright, Terrell, Kirk, Melton, Bumpas are regulars/starters?   

on the 99 yard drive most of the starters were in...
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: Pendergast on September 12, 2010, 12:13:37 AM
Walker, Voelker, Wright, Terrell, Kirk, Melton, Bumpas are regulars/starters?   

on the 99 yard drive most of the starters were in...

No
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: jtksu on September 12, 2010, 12:15:43 AM
With 3 minutes to go, up 41-17, Snyder put the starters back in?  Is that honestly what you're claiming?  :facepalm:
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: hemmy on September 12, 2010, 12:16:46 AM
They were moving the ball with ease with Harold, Hrebec, and the other group of lovable retards in there
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: swish1 on September 12, 2010, 12:17:18 AM
With 3 minutes to go, up 41-17, Snyder put the starters back in?  Is that honestly what you're claiming?  :facepalm:

there was like 8 minutes to go when the 99 yard drive started...
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: Pendergast on September 12, 2010, 12:24:35 AM
Missouri State Drive Summaries
START   QTR   POSS.   YARD   PLAYS   YARDS   RESULT
00:00     0                  KSU 0   0         0   
13:03     1      00:00   MOSU 12   3      1      Punt
11:50     1      00:00   MOSU 20   5      15      Punt
07:09     1      03:15   MOSU 35   10      35      Field Goal Missed
00:47     1      00:47   MOSU 20   5      9      Punt
09:45     2       00:00   MOSU 20   3     6      Punt
07:13     2      01:02   MOSU 14   3      9      Punt
05:15     2      00:56   MOSU 20   3      80      Passing Touchdown
00:28     2      00:28   MOSU 22   4      33      Fumble
15:00     3      00:00   MOSU 20   3      7      Punt
13:56     3      02:05   MOSU 30   6      13      Punt
08:25     3      04:07   MOSU 37   13      58      Field Goal Good
00:51     3      01:40   MOSU 26   5      74      Rushing Touchdown
14:11     4      08:03   MOSU 1   18      99      Passing Touchdown
02:35     4      02:35   MOSU 25   5      30      End of Game


Seems like there's a trend here but I can't quite put my finger on it...
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: hemmy on September 12, 2010, 12:28:01 AM
There is:  We got very lucky they didn't score on 3 more of those early drives - they had ample opportunity and just missed it.  Quit trying to defend our defense retards, they are terrible.
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: jtksu on September 12, 2010, 12:31:11 AM
And there's Hemmy again, king of the retards. We're "lucky" the didn't do crap with the ball until we subbed in a bunch of back-ups?  Was our offense also "lucky" when it put up almost 500 yds, in basically 3 quarters?
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: swish1 on September 12, 2010, 12:33:22 AM
And there's Hemmy again, king of the retards. We're "lucky" the didn't do feces with the ball until we subbed in a bunch of back-ups?  Was our offense also "lucky" when it put up almost 500 yds, in basically 3 quarters?

were you really impressed with our offense?  coffman looked a lot more confident, especially on that drive in the third quarter, but they werent impressive.

our secondary is garbage, and our d line puts 0 pressure on the qb.
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: PowercatPat on September 12, 2010, 12:35:52 AM
I love the early season meltdowns, especially the bball ones that have occurred the past 3 years.
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: Pendergast on September 12, 2010, 12:41:23 AM
There is:  We got very lucky they didn't score on 3 more of those early drives - they had ample opportunity and just missed it.  Quit trying to defend our defense retards, they are terrible.

Every team has "ample opportunity" it's a rough ridin' game.  I'm sure it had nothing to do with K-State's defense, they just "missed it."

JFC, you sound like a typical douche KU fan who thinks any game they lose is because they "beat themselves." 
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on September 12, 2010, 12:53:05 AM
I love the early season meltdowns, especially the bball ones that have occurred the past 3 years.

 eff you guys for putting me in a position where I basically have to agree with pcatpat.
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 12, 2010, 03:27:31 AM
We weren't lucky that we scheduled a shitty team. LHC Bill Snyder did that by design.
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: SuperG on September 12, 2010, 04:23:21 AM
I'm saying the defense very vanilla-ishly mailed it in for the 2nd half.

Good.
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: KSUTOMMY on September 12, 2010, 07:30:57 AM
OK, so we had some scrubs in and points were scored against them - big motherfucking deal, would you want the alternative and leave the starters in late against a shitty team so we can have another Roberson 2003 situation? We can't afford for this defense to get dinged and THAT is the scariest crap of all.
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: michigancat on September 12, 2010, 07:32:29 AM
Both lines got DOMINATED, we lucked out on some plays that could have made this very similar to La-La in 2008

God we suck.  :flush:

life's a biatch and then you die

shazbot! you

mrs catmatt is my attorney . . .

:surprised:
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: wabash909 on September 12, 2010, 07:35:32 AM
We all kind of knew the defense wasn't going to be good, right?  Thought we had pretty well established that.  So, why are we all mad all of a sudden now??



Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: KSUTOMMY on September 12, 2010, 07:47:32 AM
We all kind of knew the defense wasn't going to be good, right?  Thought we had pretty well established that.  So, why are we all mad all of a sudden now??





This is true, but watching these guys is still very difficult, especially when they look like DOG$H!T agaist 1-AA MO ST.
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: wabash909 on September 12, 2010, 07:59:26 AM
The only thing that really disgusts me about our defense is Tyson Hartman.  Mostly because he was considered good for some reason and he is actually embarrassingly bad.  Everything else is just par for the course, IMO.

It's a Chris Cosh defense.  We sort of knew we'd be eating this feces sandwich.  No need to be all suprised that it tastes like feces, right?


Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: KSUTOMMY on September 12, 2010, 08:11:48 AM
The only thing that really disgusts me about our defense is Tyson Hartman.  Mostly because he was considered good for some reason and he is actually embarrassingly bad.  Everything else is just par for the course, IMO.

It's a Chris Cosh defense.  We sort of knew we'd be eating this feces sandwich.  No need to be all suprised that it tastes like feces, right?




Blaming inability and suckiness on Cosh? You can't teach talent, either you have it or you don't. FWIW, I'm not an apologist for Cosh, but show me a top-flight DC who can put a shine on this piece of crap defense if you know of one.
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 12, 2010, 08:17:50 AM
Cosh has never put a shine on any defense.   He's been run out or nearly run out of every DC job he's ever had.

Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: catzacker on September 12, 2010, 08:23:17 AM
Cosh has never put a shine on any defense.   He's been run out or nearly run out of every DC job he's ever had.



yep. cosh, regardless of the talent he has, is terrible.  but bill loves him because he works alot of hours and stuff.
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: Lynch on September 12, 2010, 08:49:46 AM
We weren't lucky that we scheduled a shitty team. LHC Bill Snyder did that by design.

This.
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 12, 2010, 09:46:45 AM
The only thing that really disgusts me about our defense is Tyson Hartman.  Mostly because he was considered good for some reason and he is actually embarrassingly bad.  Everything else is just par for the course, IMO.

It's a Chris Cosh defense.  We sort of knew we'd be eating this feces sandwich.  No need to be all suprised that it tastes like feces, right?




Marcus Watts 2.0???

Or even worse :ohno: :ohno: :runaway:
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: Panjandrum on September 12, 2010, 09:55:06 AM
Cosh has never put a shine on any defense.   He's been run out or nearly run out of every DC job he's ever had.



yep. cosh, regardless of the talent he has, is terrible.  but bill loves him because he works alot of hours and stuff.

This is why I'm switching over to goEMAW.  This is the HFBIQ I was looking for.

 :cry: <---- Me because I feel like I've finally found a home.

PS - Chris Cosh is worse than Bob Elliot
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: Trim on September 12, 2010, 09:56:07 AM
Cosh has never put a shine on any defense.   He's been run out or nearly run out of every DC job he's ever had.



yep. cosh, regardless of the talent he has, is terrible.  but bill loves him because he works alot of hours and stuff.

This is why I'm switching over to goEMAW.  This is the HFBIQ I was looking for.

 :cry: <---- Me because I feel like I've finally found a home.

PS - Chris Cosh is worse than Bob Elliot

That'll be $9.95/month.  Make your check out to goEMAW legal defense fund.
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: Panjandrum on September 12, 2010, 10:08:46 AM
Cosh has never put a shine on any defense.   He's been run out or nearly run out of every DC job he's ever had.



yep. cosh, regardless of the talent he has, is terrible.  but bill loves him because he works alot of hours and stuff.

This is why I'm switching over to goEMAW.  This is the HFBIQ I was looking for.

 :cry: <---- Me because I feel like I've finally found a home.

PS - Chris Cosh is worse than Bob Elliot

That'll be $9.95/month.  Make your check out to goEMAW legal defense fund.

 :surprised:
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: Sugar Dick on September 12, 2010, 10:38:21 AM
Both lines got DOMINATED, we lucked out on some plays that could have made this very similar to La-La in 2008

God we suck.  :flush:

GMAFB  :facepalm:
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: Sugar Dick on September 12, 2010, 10:49:15 AM
I'm pretty sure Hartman, Butler and Lamur's white replacement were baked for that game.  They played f*cking horrible.  Please don't lump in Garrett and Sweeney with those three, they both played well.

Our front four didn't get much pressure, but they didn't do anything but containment rush.  Sweeney and Garrett were in man all night and their cover guys didn't do sh*t.  We did the one blitz where we have Hrebec runs as fast as he can into the guard or the center, but that was about it from a scheme standpoint.  I can't believe it took Cosh until the 4th quarter to send an outside blitz considering that team ran shotgun 5-7 step drop all game, but it is MoState.

Face it retards, it looked like a pre-season NFL game on defense from a scheme standpoint.  Wait to meltdown until Iowa State puts up 400+ yards of offense and we're actually trying to do something.

Carson Coffman put up like a 200 QB rating and nobody is calling him Joe Montana (except OK Cat).
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: wabash909 on September 12, 2010, 12:14:09 PM
One could conceivably make the argument that Snyder is worse at retaining good coaches (Vic Koenning) than recruiting impact quarterbacks.

Of course we all saw the debacle that was the Bobby Elliot era post Bielema jumping ship for a co-position at Wisky.  Guess we'll find out if the Vic lateral move for Illinois will be equally as disastrous.  Early returns for the Cosh led defense are pretty shitty - but we all knew that going in.

crap, it's not like it's hard to crack open his coaching resume or take a stroll back to the shitty defenses he coached a couple years back during the first Snyder go around.  But goll damn, he sure works hard!!!!!!


Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: KSUTOMMY on September 12, 2010, 01:07:43 PM
Quote
Carson Coffman put up like a 200 QB rating and nobody is calling him Joe Montana (except OK Cat).
:lol:
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: DILLIGAF on September 12, 2010, 04:02:03 PM

Carson Coffman put up like a 200 QB rating and nobody is calling him Joe Montana (except OK Cat).

55 of 75 since his last interception.   :cheers:   That's coach 'em up right there.  :excited:
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: MakeItRain on September 12, 2010, 04:19:03 PM
Cosh has never put a shine on any defense.   He's been run out or nearly run out of every DC job he's ever had.



yep. cosh, regardless of the talent he has, is terrible.  but bill loves him because he works alot of hours and stuff.

This is why I'm switching over to goEMAW.  This is the HFBIQ I was looking for.

 :cry: <---- Me because I feel like I've finally found a home.

PS - Chris Cosh is worse than Bob Elliot

Well good, I guess.  Just leave the smug knowitall crap over there, there are no poster fan clubs here.
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 12, 2010, 04:41:10 PM
I'm pretty sure Hartman, Butler and Lamur's white replacement were baked for that game.  They played f*cking horrible.  Please don't lump in Garrett and Sweeney with those three, they both played well.

Our front four didn't get much pressure, but they didn't do anything but containment rush.  Sweeney and Garrett were in man all night and their cover guys didn't do sh*t.  We did the one blitz where we have Hrebec runs as fast as he can into the guard or the center, but that was about it from a scheme standpoint.  I can't believe it took Cosh until the 4th quarter to send an outside blitz considering that team ran shotgun 5-7 step drop all game, but it is MoState.

Face it retards, it looked like a pre-season NFL game on defense from a scheme standpoint.  Wait to meltdown until Iowa State puts up 400+ yards of offense and we're actually trying to do something.

Carson Coffman put up like a 200 QB rating and nobody is calling him Joe Montana (except OK Cat).

man, I DO love that blitz.

You see him get a start and you get all excited like he will hit a gap but no, he just bounces off of the first guy in his way and gets stood up.  Love it for the first .45 seconds of excitement it offers.
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: Trim on September 12, 2010, 04:48:18 PM
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Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: Winters on September 12, 2010, 04:49:07 PM
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I rough ridin' hate him.
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: CHONGS on September 12, 2010, 04:54:48 PM
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FIRE
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: Sugar Dick on September 12, 2010, 05:01:42 PM
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In his defense, he's averaging like 10 tackles a game this season. . .
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: AbeFroman on September 12, 2010, 05:14:33 PM
no, the yards MOSt gained were against 2nd and 3rd stringers. We already knew we didn't have depth, our starters are between ok and good
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: OregonSmock on September 12, 2010, 06:58:07 PM
K-State's defense gave up 447 yards and 25 first downs to a Terry Allen-coached team.  Holy smokes!
 

:lol:
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: Cire on September 12, 2010, 06:59:47 PM
K-State's defense gave up 447 yards and 25 first downs to a Terry Allen-coached team.  Holy smokes!
 

:lol:


hang a banner.
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: Trim on September 12, 2010, 07:01:09 PM
K-State's defense gave up 447 yards and 25 first downs to a Terry Allen-coached team.  Holy smokes!
 

:lol:


Yes.  That's why there's a bunch of posts here about how our defense sucks.

If we can hold any of the next few opponents under 400 yards, we're gonna storm the field.
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: TBL on September 12, 2010, 07:07:10 PM
Hemmy = Haverhill???      :dunno:
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: Pete on September 12, 2010, 07:20:27 PM
I'm saying the defense very vanilla-ishly mailed it in for the 2nd half.

Good.

They know next week is our Super Bowl, they'll rise to the challenge.
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: mcmwcat on September 13, 2010, 08:28:06 AM
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Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: KSUTOMMY on September 13, 2010, 11:14:19 AM
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 :facepalm:

Dude is a \|/
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 13, 2010, 11:16:24 AM
I remember when we had LB's who made people want to cross the street because they were afraid of them.  Looking at rebec is like looking at the stunt double for Howdy Doody.

Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: KSUTOMMY on September 13, 2010, 12:01:55 PM
I remember when we had LB's who made people want to cross the street because they were afraid of them.  Looking at rebec is like looking at the stunt double for Howdy Doody.



Although he wasn't a linebacker, remember that magazine/publication thingy which had Darren Howard on the cover with a oversized chain around his neck and a bunch of other guys in the weight room? That was so intimidating, I used to turn it over - cover down as to prevent myself from peeing down my own leg. I freaking loved that guy.

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Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: trumanorme on September 13, 2010, 08:20:55 PM
This is entertainment at it's best. 2 thumbs up!
Title: Re: We were lucky we didn't lose
Post by: Benja on September 14, 2010, 03:42:34 PM
I remember when we had LB's who made people want to cross the street because they were afraid of them.  Looking at rebec is like looking at the stunt double for Howdy Doody.



Although he wasn't a linebacker, remember that magazine/publication thingy which had Darren Howard on the cover with a oversized chain around his neck and a bunch of other guys in the weight room? That was so intimidating, I used to turn it over - cover down as to prevent myself from peeing down my own leg. I freaking loved that guy.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fc.photoshelter.com%2Fimg-get%2FI0000Pmg9XWEE0Uo%2Ft%2F200%2FI0000Pmg9XWEE0Uo.jpg&hash=b140aa27010974f6f426ec7c977cfbbffc35a24f)

Trust me, Snyder hates starting him as much as we do.