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Slugging it out against the powerhouse ND St. Holding on to a 3-0 lead with 4 min left in the half. :lol:
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3-3 :surprised:
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I will become very depressed if we can't beat KU this season.
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It's as if RP got lap band surgery, found religion and moved to Lawrence. :lol:
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The name of this thread is very :powerespect: :facepalm:. Topic is all :pbj: :ksu:
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Hey man!! they are dominating the box score, look at the total yards!!!
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Hey man!! they are dominating the box score, look at the total yards!!!
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The name of this thread is very :powerespect: :facepalm:. Topic is all :pbj: :ksu:
Did you want "(I'm too stupid to find a better word than gay)-U"??? :dunno:
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6-3 Monster-Cows
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The name of this thread is very :powerespect: :facepalm:. Topic is all :pbj: :ksu:
Did you want "(I'm too stupid to find a better word than gay)-U"??? :dunno:
You're the reason people think we are all ignorant hicks. :flush:
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pick just threw a pic at the nds goal line. :lol:
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The name of this thread is very :powerespect: :facepalm:. Topic is all :pbj: :ksu:
Did you want "(I'm too stupid to find a better word than gay)-U"??? :dunno:
You're the reason people think we are all ignorant hicks. :flush:
You're probably (I'm too stupid to find a better word than gay).
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C_Manbeck:
"KU is really bad at football." :runaway:
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Wasn't Angus Quigley supposed to be a "beast" ?
CAR YDS AVG TD LG
Angus Quigley 7 16 2.3 0 5
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Wasn't Angus Quigley supposed to be a "beast" ?
CAR YDS AVG TD LG
Angus Quigley 7 16 2.3 0 5
You can't spell Agnus without A-N-U-S. I mean, come on!
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Guess they can no longer make fun of the UMASS game last year.
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The name of this thread is very :powerespect: :facepalm:. Topic is all :pbj: :ksu:
Did you want "(I'm too stupid to find a better word than gay)-U"??? :dunno:
You're the reason people think we are all ignorant hicks. :flush:
You're probably (I'm too stupid to find a better word than gay).
I'm not, but I'd much rather be a gay Cats fan than a :powerespect:.
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Guys ku is totally outyarding them they are just down 3 points on the scoreboard. Quit making such a big deal out of this.
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Those gay racist rapists are seriously booing the coaching staff in the first game of the year. Sad, really.
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Guys ku is totally outyarding them they are just down 3 points on the scoreboard. Quit making such a big deal out of this.
LOL! :ohno:
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Thoughts, Ben?
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This is some weird crap.
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score? time left?
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score? time left?
6-3 Monster-Cows. 4 min left in the game
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:runaway:
who's ball?
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Starting QB Pick must have been pulled. Not looking good for the hawks. 70 yards to go for a TD
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NDSU just recovered a fumble in KU territory. 3 and a half minutes left. KU has no timeouts.
Man. I just.....wow.
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That about wraps this one up. Better luck next time you play NDSU, Hoax.
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Let me know when it's over, I want to be as obnoxious as possible on facebook. thx
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Less than a minute left. ku has to drive the field. Good God.
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Tim Biere getting booed.
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There it is. NDSU stops them on 4th.
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:lol:
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Game over! "crowed is stunned"! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Is this worse than Hawkin's debut?
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BELIEVE!
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Hey look at the bright side, KU fans. At least there was no swearing during or after the game.
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oh man
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NDSU WILL WIN THEIR CONFERECNE AND POSSIBLY NATIONALCHAMPIONSHIP THIS YEAR (average ku fan and hugeupside)
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Absolutely pathetic performance. This loss looks like it will keep Ben away for a few months.
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Is this worse than Hawkin's debut?
Yes
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KU just ran into a buzzsaw today. Nothing was going to stop NDSU.
(Title of thread = :flush:)
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Someone do God's work and get us the best comments from the phag
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WE HAD OPTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Remember last October when ku was ranked I'm the top 10? Wow.
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Posted: Today 3:33 PM
Re: The root for UCLA thread
The good news of the day is the K-State and Mizzou both look pretty mediocre.
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Bring back Fat Man!!! Or go grab Mike Leach's crazy a$$. F this nice guy, no name on the jersey, Bible beater BS! Our team played like choir boys, no intensity or execution.
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Posted: Today 4:09 PM
RE: The root for UCLA thread
If Opie's the best they got, then it will be a long year for the grapes.
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Posted: Today 9:07 PM
Re: The OFFICIAL KU vs. NDSU Gamethread.. A New Era Dawns Post Rating (2 votes)
So this is the best that Perkins could find for $2million/yr (5th highest paid FB coach in Big12) - damn well prepared and well coached squad, wouldn't you say?
When several big time coaches were basically asking for the job, Gill is the minority hire specifically selected by Perkins in order to get himself in the good graces of our minority Chancellor just precisely at the same time the multi-felony/multi-million dollar ticket scandal he had presided over was going to hit the newspapers.
And It worked for him like a charm. Not only did Grey-Little not fire him she went before the Regents and defended that fat f__k to the limit, and then to top it all off she allowed him to stay another year and let him write his on golden parachute "retirement " package.
Lew Perkins will be long gone and working at another high dollar job and drawing full retirement benefits from KU while we're stuck with this guy for another 3-4 years!
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how delusional are they?
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A new coach who doesn't seem to be as prepared as he should have been.
Offensive and Defensive coordinators who seemed to be at the same level.
Quarterbacks who looked okay at times, but largely were unimpressive.
Two critical fumbles and an even worse interception.
Two missed field goals by a veteran kicker.
Playing a school that actually has an excellent football history (think "trap" game).
This game is on the level of the SMU debacle but I've actually seen worse. The loss of Reesing, Meier and Briscoe obviously left an enormous hole in the offense.
Gill has a mountain in front of him. Last year was a nightmare and I'd hoped for a .500% season. I'm pessimistic at this point.
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Posted: Today 4:09 PM
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If Opie's the best they got, then it will be a long year for the grapes.
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If we're mediocre then what is KU? The worst team of all time?
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Posted: Today 4:09 PM
RE: The root for UCLA thread
If Opie's the best they got, then it will be a long year for the grapes.
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If we're mediocre then what is KU? The worst team of all time?
To be fair that post was made well before KU faceplanted to a team with a 3-8 season in fcs last year.
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KU Football is soooo mumped. Kind of funny though, because weren't they like preseason ranked #30 or some crap?
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Ole Miss lost to Jacksonville State today in 2OT. Very, very weird.
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KU Football is soooo mumped. Kind of funny though, because weren't they like preseason ranked #30 or some crap?
27 i think in the goEMAW / financial times coaches poll :party:
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Title of game thread...
The OFFICIAL KU vs. NDSU Gamethread.. A New Era Dawns
Kind of epic like "History Awaits!"
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I am definitely going to Low-rents now. It's gonna be B-E-A-utiful. :ksu:
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Ole Miss lost to Jacksonville State today in 2OT. Very, very weird.
Don't change the subject :angry:
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KU Football is soooo fracked. Kind of funny though, because weren't they like preseason ranked #30 or some feces?
27 i think in the goEMAW / financial times coaches poll :party:
:lol: :lol:
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Ole Miss lost to Jacksonville State today in 2OT. Very, very weird.
Don't change the subject :angry:
Really was just posting it more from a twist-the-knife-into-Masoli perspective.
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What I love the most about this is that Gill is a nice guy therefore he will have what I like to call the "Woolridge effect." This should keep him employed for an extra few years, on top of that there is always a huge outcry when a black coach gets fired as well. YES!!! That should buy them a good six years with this worthless feces.
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Ole Miss lost to Jacksonville State today in 2OT. Very, very weird.
Don't change the subject :angry:
KU doesn't suck, it was just a weird day. :dunno:
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Ole Miss lost to Jacksonville State today in 2OT. Very, very weird.
Don't change the subject :angry:
Really was just posting it more from a twist-the-knife-into-Masoli perspective.
Well, they scored like 48 points so I guess it wasn't his fault :dunno:
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What I love the most about this is that Gill is a nice guy therefore he will have what I like to call the "Woolridge effect." This should keep him employed for an extra few years, on top of that there is always a huge outcry when a black coach gets fired as well. YES!!! That should buy them a good six years with this worthless feces.
He won't last very long if KU can't figure out how to "score the ball"
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Their game against GTech is going to be unbelievable.
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phog.net is absolutely on fire tonight.
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lew perkins. genius.
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phog.net is absolutely on fire tonight.
Understatement. It's in nuclear reactor mode.
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lew perkins. genius.
He's probably going to have to go on a learjet flight around the state tonight just to clear his mind a little bit.
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BOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!
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BMW lol
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BMW lol
I think the whole town is on suicide watch...
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Its great
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A few threads on phog right now:
How many wins keeps Gill's job?
Rank this loss
I know I am an idiot but...
The OFFICIAL KU vs. NDSU Gamethread...A New Era Dawns :lol:
The worst part is I don't even care. (my fav)
If I knew I could get college paid for by dropping passes
Could we ask Bill Self to coach football?
Does this loss lead to decommits? (good question)
If we go 0-12 do we fire Turner Gill?
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I wonder how Turner Gill's recruit, recruit, recruit mentality is going to fare now. LMAO
:cheers:
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I think phog.net's server just went down...seriously.
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A few threads on phog right now:
I know I am an idiot but...
Goes on to say.....
I still think we win 6 games this year. Go ahead and hate on this post, but I still believe.
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"Big Win for Bison" coming up on SC.
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Trap game dudes, they'll turn it around. I bet they score at least 3 touchdowns this year. Next year? Definite dark horse to win the Big 12. Just look at BMW's recruiting thread.
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"Big Win for Bison" coming up on SC.
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In 2 consecutive games, KU has lost to Northern Iowa and NDSU. Amazing.
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In 2 consecutive games, KU has lost to Northern Iowa and NDSU. Amazing.
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In 2 consecutive games, KU has lost to Northern Iowa and NDSU. Amazing.
I just hope that the Kansas Board of Regents doesn't tie us together when conference realignment happens again. :ohno:
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Almost assures a 10 game losing streak for KU; I wonder if any team has ever been ranked #15 and then lost their next 10 games in a row.
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Almost assures a 10 game losing streak for KU; I wonder if any team has ever been ranked #15 and then lost their next 10 games in a row.
To the goEMAW research wing :cheese:
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In 2 consecutive games, KU has lost to Northern Iowa and NDSU. Amazing.
guess who plays each other next week
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BMW lol
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KU football... RIP
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There is nothing better than driving back from MHK after a win and listen to Bob and Co. call a KU loss. There were some absolutely priceless moments on the radio tonight. :driving:
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This is incredible. With the efforts of Prince and Gill, there may never be a black head coach hired again. Hell, they're setting the entire civil rights movement back several decades. :opcat:
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Lew very well may kill football for 2 schools in Kansas. :party:
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I won't say anything about ku because it happens. But I always laugh at the "so and so looked mediocre" . . . yes Missouri and K-State did look mediocre. Missouri and K-State were playing teams from BCS conferences, with BCS conference athletes, teams with coordinators getting paid more than the entire NDSU coaching staff combined gets paid.
There's a difference.
Anybody heard of Norm Chow over there in Tardville??
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I won't say anything about ku because it happens. But I always laugh at the "so and so looked mediocre" . . . yes Missouri and K-State did look mediocre. Missouri and K-State were playing teams from BCS conferences, with BCS conference athletes, teams with coordinators getting paid more than the entire NDSU coaching staff combined gets paid.
There's a difference.
Anybody heard of Norm Chow over there in Tardville??
It happens?
It doesn't happen all that often (FCS beating a BCS team).
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I won't say anything about ku because it happens. But I always laugh at the "so and so looked mediocre" . . . yes Missouri and K-State did look mediocre. Missouri and K-State were playing teams from BCS conferences, with BCS conference athletes, teams with coordinators getting paid more than the entire NDSU coaching staff combined gets paid.
There's a difference.
Anybody heard of Norm Chow over there in Tardville??
It happens?
It doesn't happen all that often (FCS beating a BCS team).
Michigan vs. App State is the only one I can think of.
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I won't say anything about ku because it happens. But I always laugh at the "so and so looked mediocre" . . . yes Missouri and K-State did look mediocre. Missouri and K-State were playing teams from BCS conferences, with BCS conference athletes, teams with coordinators getting paid more than the entire NDSU coaching staff combined gets paid.
There's a difference.
Anybody heard of Norm Chow over there in Tardville??
It happens?
It doesn't happen all that often (FCS beating a BCS team).
Michigan vs. App State is the only one I can think of.
Montana State vs Colorado
Jacksonville State vs Ole Miss
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Colorado lost to montana state 2 years ago, Iowa State lost to northern iowa last year. It happens.
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I won't say anything about ku because it happens. But I always laugh at the "so and so looked mediocre" . . . yes Missouri and K-State did look mediocre. Missouri and K-State were playing teams from BCS conferences, with BCS conference athletes, teams with coordinators getting paid more than the entire NDSU coaching staff combined gets paid.
There's a difference.
Anybody heard of Norm Chow over there in Tardville??
It happens?
It doesn't happen all that often (FCS beating a BCS team).
Michigan vs. App State is the only one I can think of.
Jack. St beat Ole Miss today.
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Hey look at the bright side, KU fans. At least there was no swearing during or after the game.
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Does this include fans crying in their beer? :dunno: :lol:
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1 - NDSU scored 6 points, 3 of which were the direct result of a turnover. They finished the game with fewer than 170 total yards. They averaged 2.3 ypc and 12-22 passing. They did get 10 first downs, so maybe that is why people think the d-line got dominated. They ran the ball 32 times, so when they had the ball the clock was running and thus they led in time of possession.
2 - All but one player from an offensive line that dominated Nebraska 11 months ago is still on this team. There is talent in the offensive line corps, but it wasn't used properly tonight.
3 - There were open receivers all night but once Pick lost his confidence he had tunnel vision. It happens, sadly it happened tonight against a FCS team.
So yes, I say this KU team has more physical talent than last year's K-State team. You could clearly see it on the field, but neither the execution nor the play calling were there to capitalize. If the coaching staff pulls that together, as K-State did in 2009, this team can win 4 conference games.
Anyone who didn't see the talent on the field tonight is blinded by the loss.
Maybe one of the best things I've ever seen. They're trying to find a way to convince themselves that our 6-6 season last year is the new benchmark
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I personally witnessed K-State lose to several D1AA teams. LHC Bill Snyder lost to Northern Iowa. In 1992 K-State needed to stop an Indiana State PAT and run it back for 2 to win that game.
Of course the major difference is . . . K-State wasn't 3 years removed from the Orange Bowl, and was during part of the period the worst program in the country.
ku has now lost 8 straight games. It will likely be 9 after next weekend.
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In 2 consecutive games, KU has lost to Northern Iowa and NDSU. Amazing.
KU is the Missouri Valley's bitch.
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1 - NDSU scored 6 points, 3 of which were the direct result of a turnover. They finished the game with fewer than 170 total yards. They averaged 2.3 ypc and 12-22 passing. They did get 10 first downs, so maybe that is why people think the d-line got dominated. They ran the ball 32 times, so when they had the ball the clock was running and thus they led in time of possession.
2 - All but one player from an offensive line that dominated Nebraska 11 months ago is still on this team. There is talent in the offensive line corps, but it wasn't used properly tonight.
3 - There were open receivers all night but once Pick lost his confidence he had tunnel vision. It happens, sadly it happened tonight against a FCS team.
So yes, I say this KU team has more physical talent than last year's K-State team. You could clearly see it on the field, but neither the execution nor the play calling were there to capitalize. If the coaching staff pulls that together, as K-State did in 2009, this team can win 4 conference games.
Anyone who didn't see the talent on the field tonight is blinded by the loss.
Maybe one of the best things I've ever seen. They're trying to find a way to convince themselves that our 6-6 season last year is the new benchmark
I've refrained from piling on for obvious reasons, but jesus christ. That thread plus the thread comparing Gill to Ron Prince are just rough ridin' hysterical.
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During the post game analysis they said the beakers had over half their total rushing yards (96) on a single play of 51 yards, and if you took that play away -- they averaged just over a yard per carry. Put that run back in the stats, and they were only 3 yards per carry.
Shouldn't be too hard to get tickets when we go to Low-rents, know what I mean? Let's take that town over like we used to!
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I flipped through the channels...i saw a track, no names on the jerseys, i thought i was watched bishop carroll...you can imagine my surprise when i realized i was watching a college football game.
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I flipped through the channels...i saw a track, no names on the jerseys, i thought i was watched bishop carroll...you can imagine my surprise when i realized i was watching a college football game.
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you weren't
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I flipped through the channels...i saw a track, no names on the jerseys, i thought i was watched bishop carroll...you can imagine my surprise when i realized i was watching a college football game.
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you weren't
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There is nothing better than driving back from MHK after a win and listen to Bob and Co. call a KU loss. There were some absolutely priceless moments on the radio tonight. :driving:
+1
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I CANNOT wait till bmw gets back here..
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Big Win for Bison up on Sportscenter
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In other news Kansas State defeats Quality opponent at home by 9
Life is pretty damn incredible right now fellas
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I CANNOT wait till bmw gets back here..
This is the second team he claimed could beat KSU.
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i rarely visit phog.net but tonight i had to. man i can't stop laughing at some of these posts...
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Posted: Today 1:29 AM
RE: Did anyone catch the post game show?
Does anybody else feel like we would have won by 3 touchdowns if our guys had no coaches and drew crap up in the dirt? Maybe I should moderate this. Would have scored a touchdown?
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Re: Turner Gill = Ron Prince?
Nice guys generally have teams with no discipline.....Hard ass coaches teams generally have discipline. Its that simple. We are going back to the Terry Allen basement era.
I don't care so much that we lost to NDSU......what shows me that we have an inept coaching staff is the fact they only put up 3 freaking points. 3! That fact, coupled w/ ZERO display of any discipline whatsoever.....tells me we are going Terry Allen for the next three years.....before they have to bring in a hard ass to clean up this debacle up under a new A.D.
Lew went out and hired the male version of Bonnie Hendrickson.
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noticing a fair amount of pining for Mangino and also some Lew bashing...
havent even gotten into the game thread i bet that thing is amazing.
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i rarely visit phog.net but tonight i had to. man i can't stop laughing at some of these posts...
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Posted: Today 1:29 AM
RE: Did anyone catch the post game show?
Does anybody else feel like we would have won by 3 touchdowns if our guys had no coaches and drew crap up in the dirt? Maybe I should moderate this. Would have scored a touchdown?
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Posted: Yesterday 11:03 PM
Re: Turner Gill = Ron Prince?
Nice guys generally have teams with no discipline.....Hard ass coaches teams generally have discipline. Its that simple. We are going back to the Terry Allen basement era.
Give 'em hell Terry! :kugoalposts:
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In other news Kansas State defeats Quality opponent at home by 9
Life is pretty damn incredible right now fellas
I can foresee increased sales of "house divided" gear in the near future
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Love their optimism that Gill will only be around 3 years. The fact that we took a ton of crap for firing Prince after 3 years means that they pretty much have to stick with Gill for 4+ before axing him.
Just another program that KSU is burning to the ground.
This thread needs that gif of the NDSU bison beating the drum
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Warm up the secret deals btwn Gill and new AD, perhaps life insurance policies are involved.
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Can't wait for the videos of Gil bawling his eyes out after "getting over the hump" against New Mexico State in three weeks
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Can't bury anybody after 1 game. Hell The Right Reverend Houston Nutt is explaining a loss to Jacksonville f'ing State this morning.
That being said . . . if Mark Mangino is on the sidelines, while ku many have struggled a bit with the new personnel at some spots, ku wins a sleeper 27-6.
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If someone gifted in the art of Photoshop could put together this bison fracking a gayhawk, that would be an image I'd be sure to save.
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Re: Fair or Not, this situation could easily happen... Post Rating (5 votes)
Sure 0-12 is possible. We scored 3 against a freaking FCS team. I'd be fine with hiring a real coach anytime now.
FRACKING MELTDOWN! :excited:
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I had forgotten I'd set up an account over there last year at tourney time. Yesterday I got this friendly reminder:
Jayhawk football is back!
Kick off the college football season with a subscription to Phog.net to get the latest in-depth coverage of the Jayhawks. blah, blah, blah
Precious. Might wander over to do a little concern trolling with my KU sock CJGILES4Life
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Can you please knock off the foul language. There could be some football players reading this-and they might get scared and underperform next week.
lol
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Is it too late to get the pac 10 to take them? Someone check to see if Larry Scott's plane is anywhere near Wheeler airport.
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The "B's" strike again!
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jallen18ku (9/1/2010 at 5:15 PM) Report Violation you guys have got to be joking. you are an fcs team that went 3-8 last year and lost most of your key players, on the road at an FBS school. you are going to get beat bad. inexperienced FCS teams dont beat FBS teams, especially BCS conference teams. sometimes experienced FCS teams play very well and catch an FBS group off guard, and by the way, APP State was a dominant FCS team, not a 3-8 group. same with Richmond last year. Ive got no ill will against you guys and hope you have a successful season in FCS, but lets get real here kids. This one will be a blowout. I will go 42-7
DJKyRo (9/2/2010 at 12:43 AM) Report Violation Really looking forward to the game! NDSU has a lot to prove this year and Kansas is ripe for an upset! Go Bison!
jallen18ku (9/2/2010 at 11:28 AM) Report Violation wow, just wow. you guys are delusional. KU is not ripe for an upset, and even if they are, it won't come from a 3-8 FCS team from last year that lost most of its key players. you guys don't realize just how good of a coach Turner Gill is. He has these guys in fine form and ready to play. you guys better be ready for a major blowout, because that is what is coming your way.
DJKyRo (9/2/2010 at 5:18 PM) Report Violation If you're banking on a 3-8 record do a little research - half those losses were by less than a touchdown. Turner Gill is 20-30 all-time as a head coach. Speaking of "key players," sounds like Kansas didn't keep a whole heck of a lot either. Any given Saturday, big guy.
jallen18ku (9/2/2010 at 6:02 PM) Report Violation YOU ARENT EVEN IN THE SAME NCAA DIVISION AS US! We return every starter from our offensive line, and TG wsa 20-30 taking over a program that had won 5 games in 4 yrs. when he got there. 3-8 is 3-8, it was against FCS competition. Blowout. Big. I will be the one on here after the game making sure you all know about it.
This stuff never gets old.
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jallen18ku (9/1/2010 at 5:15 PM) Report Violation you guys have got to be joking. you are an fcs team that went 3-8 last year and lost most of your key players, on the road at an FBS school. you are going to get beat bad. inexperienced FCS teams dont beat FBS teams, especially BCS conference teams. sometimes experienced FCS teams play very well and catch an FBS group off guard, and by the way, APP State was a dominant FCS team, not a 3-8 group. same with Richmond last year. Ive got no ill will against you guys and hope you have a successful season in FCS, but lets get real here kids. This one will be a blowout. I will go 42-7
DJKyRo (9/2/2010 at 12:43 AM) Report Violation Really looking forward to the game! NDSU has a lot to prove this year and Kansas is ripe for an upset! Go Bison!
jallen18ku (9/2/2010 at 11:28 AM) Report Violation wow, just wow. you guys are delusional. KU is not ripe for an upset, and even if they are, it won't come from a 3-8 FCS team from last year that lost most of its key players. you guys don't realize just how good of a coach Turner Gill is. He has these guys in fine form and ready to play. you guys better be ready for a major blowout, because that is what is coming your way.
DJKyRo (9/2/2010 at 5:18 PM) Report Violation If you're banking on a 3-8 record do a little research - half those losses were by less than a touchdown. Turner Gill is 20-30 all-time as a head coach. Speaking of "key players," sounds like Kansas didn't keep a whole heck of a lot either. Any given Saturday, big guy.
jallen18ku (9/2/2010 at 6:02 PM) Report Violation YOU ARENT EVEN IN THE SAME NCAA DIVISION AS US! We return every starter from our offensive line, and TG wsa 20-30 taking over a program that had won 5 games in 4 yrs. when he got there. 3-8 is 3-8, it was against FCS competition. Blowout. Big. I will be the one on here after the game making sure you all know about it.
This stuff never gets old.
:lol:
KU fan actually went to a board of a 1AA program to talk smack?
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jallen18ku (9/1/2010 at 5:15 PM) Report Violation you guys have got to be joking. you are an fcs team that went 3-8 last year and lost most of your key players, on the road at an FBS school. you are going to get beat bad. inexperienced FCS teams dont beat FBS teams, especially BCS conference teams. sometimes experienced FCS teams play very well and catch an FBS group off guard, and by the way, APP State was a dominant FCS team, not a 3-8 group. same with Richmond last year. Ive got no ill will against you guys and hope you have a successful season in FCS, but lets get real here kids. This one will be a blowout. I will go 42-7
DJKyRo (9/2/2010 at 12:43 AM) Report Violation Really looking forward to the game! NDSU has a lot to prove this year and Kansas is ripe for an upset! Go Bison!
jallen18ku (9/2/2010 at 11:28 AM) Report Violation wow, just wow. you guys are delusional. KU is not ripe for an upset, and even if they are, it won't come from a 3-8 FCS team from last year that lost most of its key players. you guys don't realize just how good of a coach Turner Gill is. He has these guys in fine form and ready to play. you guys better be ready for a major blowout, because that is what is coming your way.
DJKyRo (9/2/2010 at 5:18 PM) Report Violation If you're banking on a 3-8 record do a little research - half those losses were by less than a touchdown. Turner Gill is 20-30 all-time as a head coach. Speaking of "key players," sounds like Kansas didn't keep a whole heck of a lot either. Any given Saturday, big guy.
jallen18ku (9/2/2010 at 6:02 PM) Report Violation YOU ARENT EVEN IN THE SAME NCAA DIVISION AS US! We return every starter from our offensive line, and TG wsa 20-30 taking over a program that had won 5 games in 4 yrs. when he got there. 3-8 is 3-8, it was against FCS competition. Blowout. Big. I will be the one on here after the game making sure you all know about it.
This stuff never gets old.
This is all really fantastic stuff.
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jallen18ku (9/1/2010 at 5:15 PM) Report Violation you guys have got to be joking. you are an fcs team that went 3-8 last year and lost most of your key players, on the road at an FBS school. you are going to get beat bad. inexperienced FCS teams dont beat FBS teams, especially BCS conference teams. sometimes experienced FCS teams play very well and catch an FBS group off guard, and by the way, APP State was a dominant FCS team, not a 3-8 group. same with Richmond last year. Ive got no ill will against you guys and hope you have a successful season in FCS, but lets get real here kids. This one will be a blowout. I will go 42-7
DJKyRo (9/2/2010 at 12:43 AM) Report Violation Really looking forward to the game! NDSU has a lot to prove this year and Kansas is ripe for an upset! Go Bison!
jallen18ku (9/2/2010 at 11:28 AM) Report Violation wow, just wow. you guys are delusional. KU is not ripe for an upset, and even if they are, it won't come from a 3-8 FCS team from last year that lost most of its key players. you guys don't realize just how good of a coach Turner Gill is. He has these guys in fine form and ready to play. you guys better be ready for a major blowout, because that is what is coming your way.
DJKyRo (9/2/2010 at 5:18 PM) Report Violation If you're banking on a 3-8 record do a little research - half those losses were by less than a touchdown. Turner Gill is 20-30 all-time as a head coach. Speaking of "key players," sounds like Kansas didn't keep a whole heck of a lot either. Any given Saturday, big guy.
jallen18ku (9/2/2010 at 6:02 PM) Report Violation YOU ARENT EVEN IN THE SAME NCAA DIVISION AS US! We return every starter from our offensive line, and TG wsa 20-30 taking over a program that had won 5 games in 4 yrs. when he got there. 3-8 is 3-8, it was against FCS competition. Blowout. Big. I will be the one on here after the game making sure you all know about it.
This stuff never gets old.
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With Reesing KU wins this game by 30
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jallen18ku (9/1/2010 at 5:15 PM) Report Violation you guys have got to be joking. you are an fcs team that went 3-8 last year and lost most of your key players, on the road at an FBS school. you are going to get beat bad. inexperienced FCS teams dont beat FBS teams, especially BCS conference teams. sometimes experienced FCS teams play very well and catch an FBS group off guard, and by the way, APP State was a dominant FCS team, not a 3-8 group. same with Richmond last year. Ive got no ill will against you guys and hope you have a successful season in FCS, but lets get real here kids. This one will be a blowout. I will go 42-7
DJKyRo (9/2/2010 at 12:43 AM) Report Violation Really looking forward to the game! NDSU has a lot to prove this year and Kansas is ripe for an upset! Go Bison!
jallen18ku (9/2/2010 at 11:28 AM) Report Violation wow, just wow. you guys are delusional. KU is not ripe for an upset, and even if they are, it won't come from a 3-8 FCS team from last year that lost most of its key players. you guys don't realize just how good of a coach Turner Gill is. He has these guys in fine form and ready to play. you guys better be ready for a major blowout, because that is what is coming your way.
DJKyRo (9/2/2010 at 5:18 PM) Report Violation If you're banking on a 3-8 record do a little research - half those losses were by less than a touchdown. Turner Gill is 20-30 all-time as a head coach. Speaking of "key players," sounds like Kansas didn't keep a whole heck of a lot either. Any given Saturday, big guy.
jallen18ku (9/2/2010 at 6:02 PM) Report Violation YOU ARENT EVEN IN THE SAME NCAA DIVISION AS US! We return every starter from our offensive line, and TG wsa 20-30 taking over a program that had won 5 games in 4 yrs. when he got there. 3-8 is 3-8, it was against FCS competition. Blowout. Big. I will be the one on here after the game making sure you all know about it.
This stuff never gets old.
Holy eff, I could laugh at this for days on end.
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jallen18ku (9/1/2010 at 5:15 PM) Report Violation you guys have got to be joking. you are an fcs team that went 3-8 last year and lost most of your key players, on the road at an FBS school. you are going to get beat bad. inexperienced FCS teams dont beat FBS teams, especially BCS conference teams. sometimes experienced FCS teams play very well and catch an FBS group off guard, and by the way, APP State was a dominant FCS team, not a 3-8 group. same with Richmond last year. Ive got no ill will against you guys and hope you have a successful season in FCS, but lets get real here kids. This one will be a blowout. I will go 42-7
DJKyRo (9/2/2010 at 12:43 AM) Report Violation Really looking forward to the game! NDSU has a lot to prove this year and Kansas is ripe for an upset! Go Bison!
jallen18ku (9/2/2010 at 11:28 AM) Report Violation wow, just wow. you guys are delusional. KU is not ripe for an upset, and even if they are, it won't come from a 3-8 FCS team from last year that lost most of its key players. you guys don't realize just how good of a coach Turner Gill is. He has these guys in fine form and ready to play. you guys better be ready for a major blowout, because that is what is coming your way.
DJKyRo (9/2/2010 at 5:18 PM) Report Violation If you're banking on a 3-8 record do a little research - half those losses were by less than a touchdown. Turner Gill is 20-30 all-time as a head coach. Speaking of "key players," sounds like Kansas didn't keep a whole heck of a lot either. Any given Saturday, big guy.
jallen18ku (9/2/2010 at 6:02 PM) Report Violation YOU ARENT EVEN IN THE SAME NCAA DIVISION AS US! We return every starter from our offensive line, and TG wsa 20-30 taking over a program that had won 5 games in 4 yrs. when he got there. 3-8 is 3-8, it was against FCS competition. Blowout. Big. I will be the one on here after the game making sure you all know about it.
This stuff never gets old.
OMG, this is the best thing ever. :lol:
This is why the word schadenfreude was invented. The only person enjoying this more than us is Mangino.
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With Reesing KU wins this game by 30
Toddler would be running for his life.
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With Reesing KU wins this game by 30
Toddler would be running for his life.
And would escape. Granted, without the Mangino/Warriner system he might suck.
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jallen18ku (9/1/2010 at 5:15 PM) Report Violation you guys have got to be joking. you are an fcs team that went 3-8 last year and lost most of your key players, on the road at an FBS school. you are going to get beat bad. inexperienced FCS teams dont beat FBS teams, especially BCS conference teams. sometimes experienced FCS teams play very well and catch an FBS group off guard, and by the way, APP State was a dominant FCS team, not a 3-8 group. same with Richmond last year. Ive got no ill will against you guys and hope you have a successful season in FCS, but lets get real here kids. This one will be a blowout. I will go 42-7
DJKyRo (9/2/2010 at 12:43 AM) Report Violation Really looking forward to the game! NDSU has a lot to prove this year and Kansas is ripe for an upset! Go Bison!
jallen18ku (9/2/2010 at 11:28 AM) Report Violation wow, just wow. you guys are delusional. KU is not ripe for an upset, and even if they are, it won't come from a 3-8 FCS team from last year that lost most of its key players. you guys don't realize just how good of a coach Turner Gill is. He has these guys in fine form and ready to play. you guys better be ready for a major blowout, because that is what is coming your way.
DJKyRo (9/2/2010 at 5:18 PM) Report Violation If you're banking on a 3-8 record do a little research - half those losses were by less than a touchdown. Turner Gill is 20-30 all-time as a head coach. Speaking of "key players," sounds like Kansas didn't keep a whole heck of a lot either. Any given Saturday, big guy.
jallen18ku (9/2/2010 at 6:02 PM) Report Violation YOU ARENT EVEN IN THE SAME NCAA DIVISION AS US! We return every starter from our offensive line, and TG wsa 20-30 taking over a program that had won 5 games in 4 yrs. when he got there. 3-8 is 3-8, it was against FCS competition. Blowout. Big. I will be the one on here after the game making sure you all know about it.
This stuff never gets old.
Please Please Please post the follow-up if he has the nads to go back and eat crow. :woot: :woot: :woot:
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I would actually have a lot more respect for the dude if he did go back and eat crow. He won't. Also, WTF was he doing on a FCS board in the first place? What kind of validation seeking loser talks crap on FCS team?
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ecn's work
Nice -- do you have the longer one? The one where he points at the camera - "Hey you, watch this, I'm about to beat the hell out of this drum"
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Speaking of gay, our server at the Chef today was super gay, and a GREAT waiter. Great work today, gay Chef waiter.
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Speaking of gay, our server at the Chef today was super gay, and a GREAT waiter. Great work today, gay Chef waiter.
sounds like a great time, w/ excellent food Im sure
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Speaking of gay, our server at the Chef today was super gay, and a GREAT waiter. Great work today, gay Chef waiter.
I thought they only let hot girls be servers? You know, like everywhere?
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I would actually have a lot more respect for the dude if he did go back and eat crow. He won't. Also, WTF was he doing on a FCS board in the first place? What kind of validation seeking loser talks feces on FCS team?
This was taken from Section 140 from ESPN.com I believe. And no, he didnt go back even though he said "I will be the one on here after the game making sure you all know about it. " :lol: :lol: :lol:
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The Night the Wheat Stood Still. (http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&tab=nw#hl=en&source=hp&q=%22The+night+the+wheat+stood+still.%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=CdOcqm1uETPy7DpHCNp77sJoGAAAAqgQFT9A42VE&pbx=1&fp=752edba193de6287)
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fantastic!
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Speaking of gay, our server at the Chef today was super gay, and a GREAT waiter. Great work today, gay Chef waiter.
Could not possibly have been a better breakfast experience than my trip this morning to the Re-heater. Loved the eggbake, loved the atmosphere. Perfect.
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http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/sep/05/ku-still-can-win-four-only-if/ (http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/sep/05/ku-still-can-win-four-only-if/)
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BMW lol
Just remembered meeting up with Gooch, OrangeCityCat and the Petes at the Petes' late dinner. OrangeCityCat called Beems to check up on him. I don't think he ended up getting through.
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The LJW had an article about how NDSU expected to win the game, but one of the opening paragraphs had a line:
"N.D. State — a Football Championship Subdivision school (formerly known as Div. I-AA) — had just knocked off Football Bowl Subdivision (I-A) giant Kansas University, 6-3"
Wow, we have FBS giant right down I-70....how lucky for K-State.
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A "giant" who has now lost 8 straight.
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"But, I'm Black"
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Bison fans, I just wanted to say that KU doesn't represent the rest of the Big 12, nor do their fans represent the entire state of Kansas. KU fans are a small step below Red Sox fans in the braggadocio before a game, and their disconnect with reality during and after the game. K-State fans have to put up with this every freaking year, you only had to put up with it this week.
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KU is right under the Red Sox fans in the braggadocio? You are an absolute moron. K State fans are some of the biggest two faced people I have ever met in my life. All fans (including KU fans) talk trash, and I personally hate those that do, but if you seriously believe that KU fans are the only ones that brag, or think their #### don't stink, you need to look at your fans.. Some of the biggest trash talkers/morons in the Big XII.
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Sorry Ku way to be so confident see what happens when you feel the Thunder you get owned. And i mean owned what Big 12 team only scores 3 points. and to all the KU fans thanks either KU sucks or the Bison Defense Ownes
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The Bison defense is the reason why NDSU is going to possibly win out the MVC. They are returning a lot of their players this year, and KU lost a majority of their players to the draft, thus NDSU was the more experienced team. Also, I give credit to NDSU's coach.. What an incredible coach to have. All in all, best of luck to NDSU the rest of the year, and all teams that have to play them.
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hahahahahahahahaha ha hahahahahahahahahaha ha..... Go Bison!
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hahahahahahahahaha hahaha.. Go F*ck yourself.
No return of jallen18ku
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"But, I'm Black"
:flush:
Leave that stupid crap on another board.
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Love the logic about how returning a lot of players from a 3-8 team suddenly makes you a favorite to win out this year.
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smoser2 is trying his best to convince himself that Missouri and K-State are right with KU in the dumps.
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"ku lost a majority of its players to the draft"
Yea, like NDSU fans don't follow the NFL draft....and know that fan is a lying sack of sh1t.
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Beating a Pac/Big 10 team is basically the same as losing to a 3-8 FCS team, right guys? Right?
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http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=6312362&p=3 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=6312362&p=3)
The reason ku lost is because K-State is in the Big 12.
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http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=6312362&p=3 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=6312362&p=3)
The reason ku lost is because K-State is in the Big 12.
What A thread
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http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=6312362&p=3 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=6312362&p=3)
The reason ku lost is because K-State is in the Big 12.
lol
kansascitysportsfan is my hero
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http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=6312362&p=3 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=6312362&p=3)
The reason ku lost is because K-State is in the Big 12.
cut and paste jackstick
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"But, I'm Black"
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RE: Minnesota Finished 1-11 in 2007 Post Rating (4 votes)
swarthmore wrote: Minn may have a little more in-state talent than the state of Kansas...however Kansas in-state talent must support two BCS teams, not one. That said, it has been a long time since the state of Minn cared about college athletics before professional sports.
K-State's existence really is the dagger.
That's why I was hoping the Big 12 would break up, and K-State would drift away.
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Posted: Yesterday 1:05 PM
RE: Minnesota Finished 1-11 in 2007 Post Rating (6 votes)
I been saying this for years.
Eventually the rest of our fanbase will realize this. KSU has no business being a BCS level school. If Missouri State is a non BCS school in a state with twice the population of Kansas. How in the hell did KSU get admitted into being a BCS level school? I'm not saying without a second BCS school in KS, KU would be an absolute college football power. However, I believe things would be easier for the KU football program competing in a stadium with a capacity of 70k, as the lone BCS school in a sparsely populated state. ( think Arkansas) What I'm saying is, The population in KS is small for one BCS school, let alone two.
Without KSU, I believe instate recruiting and support would be to KU what it is to a school like Arkansas with a similiar state population to KS. Everybody in Arkansas gets behind the Razorbacks and most instate recruits want to play there. They play in a 70k stadium, not 50k like KU. KU football doesn't have that kind of impact in Kansas, because people have another BCS school to cheer for. I long for the day when KU becomes the lone BCS school in KS, like they already should be. It would make a big difference for KU football instate recruiting. We may not get every top instate recruit, but atleast we're not having to split it up with another instate BCS school.
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Well, then they'd understand that we would need to eliminate the embarrassingly underperforming football program, and invest in the 'Cats.
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Wow. I love those guys. A 14 year old Twilight fan knows more about sports than they do.
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Wow. I love those guys. A 14 year old Twilight fan knows more about sports than they do.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Wow. I love those guys. A 14 year old Twilight fan knows more about sports than they do.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
[/quote You like twilight.
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Well, then they'd understand that we would need to eliminate the embarrassingly underperforming football program, and invest in the 'Cats.
^This. I wish this last weekend's games would have happened before the whole conference meltdown thing. While we would probably still be of the Forgotten Four, it would be funny to watch the ukans toucans squirm.
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Doesn't even make me feel bad about the mother humping we will deliver them in Lawrence.
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It's our fault. :kstatriot:
Only fracking thing that program has had going for it in two generations was given to them by someone who was tutored in Manhattan.
Losers.
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It's our fault. :kstatriot:
Only fracking thing that program has had going for it in two generations was given to them by someone who was tutored in Manhattan.
Losers.
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It's our fault. :kstatriot:
Only fracking thing that program has had going for it in two generations was given to them by someone who was tutored in Manhattan.
Losers.
eff 'em, we've been rough ridin' them in the ass for the better part of 20 years, and it doesn't look like it will end soon. If anything having NBAF and AA in our own back yard will put the screws to them even more. JFC, it may be a pipe dream but I would really like for Schulz's KSTATE 2025 thing to come to pass.
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http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=6312362&p=3 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2485&t=6312362&p=3)
The reason ku lost is because K-State is in the Big 12.
It's almost a tangilbe fear in that thread.
I think they are alrealdy fearing the beard, bc that is the one thing that has ever made them noticeable.
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If all that I hear that is being worked on behind the scenes comes to pass over the next 2 or 3 years . . . they're really going to $hit.
Remember, we have a $45 million dollar approved line of credit just sitting their waiting to be tapped as we see fit, plus I hear rumors of some big boosters stepping up with some significant donations.
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LOL at Tardville . . . seriously. How can Iowa put 70,000 in the stands with Iowa State just down the road, but poor little ku can't?? Because most of their bandwagon fanbase doesn't give a $hit about football and never has. If 1/50th of the non college attending white trash ku bangwagoners and the ku alums who have never given a $hit about football ever bothered to show up, they could fill a 70,000 seat stadium easy. Plus they can't use the Chiefs as an excuse unless they also want to cop to being Zubbas wearing Camerohead trash as well.
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I bet all the Ole Miss faithful are blaming the Miss St. bulldogs for their loss as well. That is what elite programs do.
Did the goEMAW.com crack team of statisticianever find out if an 5-0 team ranked in the top 10 has ever lost 8 in a row?
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It's our fault. :kstatriot:
Only fracking thing that program has had going for it in two generations was given to them by someone who was tutored in Manhattan.
Losers.
JFC, it may be a pipe dream but I would really like for Schulz's KSTATE 2025 thing to come to pass.
What is that?
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LOL at Tardville . . . seriously. How can Iowa put 70,000 in the stands with Iowa State just down the road, but poor little ku can't?? Because most of their bandwagon fanbase doesn't give a $hit about football and never has. If 1/50th of the non college attending white trash ku bangwagoners and the ku alums who have never given a $hit about football ever bothered to show up, they could fill a 70,000 seat stadium easy. Plus they can't use the Chiefs as an excuse unless they also want to cop to being Zubbas wearing Camerohead trash as well.
I brought that point up for a reason. They one-starred me anyway :cry:
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LOL at Tardville . . . seriously. How can Iowa put 70,000 in the stands with Iowa State just down the road, but poor little ku can't?? Because most of their bandwagon fanbase doesn't give a $hit about football and never has. If 1/50th of the non college attending white trash ku bangwagoners and the ku alums who have never given a $hit about football ever bothered to show up, they could fill a 70,000 seat stadium easy. Plus they can't use the Chiefs as an excuse unless they also want to cop to being Zubbas wearing Camerohead trash as well.
I brought that point up for a reason. They one-starred me anyway :cry:
you know how they are, you can't let them get to you, stay strong.
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It's our fault. :kstatriot:
Only fracking thing that program has had going for it in two generations was given to them by someone who was tutored in Manhattan.
Losers.
JFC, it may be a pipe dream but I would really like for Schulz's KSTATE 2025 thing to come to pass.
What is that?
http://www.k-state.edu/2025/
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ku: We'd just rather be a fat lazy school with no instate competition.
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Our new Pres: Major sports fan and big time advocate of college athletics.
Their new Chancellor: Not even confirmed if she really likes sports.
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MikeStinkey wrote: I'm not certain why KSU fans are expecting to win in Lawrence this year. Road wins are always tough for anyone not named Texas/OU. If they think they'll come in and roll, I seriously doubt that. Unless they get a QB who can complete a 10-yard pass.
:woot:
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MikeStinkey wrote: I'm not certain why KSU fans are expecting to win in Lawrence this year. Road wins are always tough for anyone not named Texas/OU. If they think they'll come in and roll, I seriously doubt that. Unless they get a QB who can complete a 10-yard pass.
:woot:
He's right. Road games are really tough. NDSU had to play really, really hard to win that game in Lawrence. Hats off to them.
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With Carson at QB, I take nothing for granted but athletically we are better than ku at almost every position, except LB.
Haven't compared our second team though.....will try that later.
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With Carson at QB, I take nothing for granted but athletically we are better than ku at almost every position, except LB.
Haven't compared our second team though.....will try that later.
Their linebackers might outrush ours.
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Haven't compared our second team though.....will try that later.
Speaking of second teams...Has it even been a year since they were telling us that their second team could beat our starters? I don't think so.