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Title: GUYS!!!
Post by: KCFDcat on September 03, 2010, 11:46:34 AM
The most important question has yet to be asked....

HOW MANY TICKETS REMAIN FOR THIS rough ridin' GAME???
Title: Re: GUYS!!!
Post by: ew2x4 on September 03, 2010, 11:47:45 AM
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Title: Re: GUYS!!!
Post by: WildcatNkilt on September 03, 2010, 11:48:21 AM
If it's not sold out, then it is less than 1,000.
Title: Re: GUYS!!!
Post by: AbeFroman on September 03, 2010, 11:49:28 AM
FILL THE BILL CMON GUYS
PACK IT WITH PURPLE
BUY EXTRA TICKETS AND GIVE THEM TO HOMELESS PEOPLE IF YOU HAVE TO
Title: Re: GUYS!!!
Post by: WillieWatanabe on September 03, 2010, 11:50:59 AM
bagel
Title: Re: GUYS!!!
Post by: doom on September 03, 2010, 11:51:09 AM
FILL THE BILL CMON GUYS
PACK IT WITH PURPLE
BUY EXTRA TICKETS AND GIVE THEM TO HOMELESS PEOPLE IF YOU HAVE TO

Robert already has his.
Title: Re: GUYS!!!
Post by: "storm"nut on September 03, 2010, 11:52:25 AM
The most important question has yet to be asked....

HOW MANY TICKETS REMAIN FOR THIS frackING GAME???


There selling standing room only tickets now.
Title: Re: GUYS!!!
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 03, 2010, 11:58:51 AM
The whole concept of lowering the prices on select (almost always empty) seats on season tickets, running specials, invoking a tiered single game ticket pricing structure for select games etc. etc.  Means that you are undervaluing the product.  It's always better to have empty seats.   I much prefer the Tim Weiser approach of never giving anybody a break and always having 4-6,000 empty seats except for a select few games.   There's plenty of money to be made in empty seats.

Title: Re: GUYS!!!
Post by: KCFDcat on September 03, 2010, 12:01:56 PM
The whole concept of lowering the prices on select (almost always empty) seats on season tickets, running specials, invoking a tiered single game ticket pricing structure for select games etc. etc.  Means that you are undervaluing the product.  It's always better to have empty seats.   I much prefer the Tim Weiser approach of never giving anybody a break and always having 4-6,000 empty seats except for a select few games.   There's plenty of money to be made in empty seats.



I agree. In an ideal world, the whole east side upper deck would be empty...
Title: Re: GUYS!!!
Post by: Panjandrum on September 03, 2010, 12:18:01 PM
The whole concept of lowering the prices on select (almost always empty) seats on season tickets, running specials, invoking a tiered single game ticket pricing structure for select games etc. etc.  Means that you are undervaluing the product.  It's always better to have empty seats.   I much prefer the Tim Weiser approach of never giving anybody a break and always having 4-6,000 empty seats except for a select few games.   There's plenty of money to be made in empty seats.

  :adios: to the closest person to me...who happens to sit two sections over.
Title: Re: GUYS!!!
Post by: 06wildcat on September 03, 2010, 12:49:05 PM
The whole concept of lowering the prices on select (almost always empty) seats on season tickets, running specials, invoking a tiered single game ticket pricing structure for select games etc. etc.  Means that you are undervaluing the product.  It's always better to have empty seats.   I much prefer the Tim Weiser approach of never giving anybody a break and always having 4-6,000 empty seats except for a select few games.   There's plenty of money to be made in empty seats.



Because nothing says a product is valued correctly like not selling it.
Title: Re: GUYS!!!
Post by: 3rdGenKSt8r on September 03, 2010, 02:20:28 PM
The whole concept of lowering the prices on select (almost always empty) seats on season tickets, running specials, invoking a tiered single game ticket pricing structure for select games etc. etc.  Means that you are undervaluing the product.  It's always better to have empty seats.   I much prefer the Tim Weiser approach of never giving anybody a break and always having 4-6,000 empty seats except for a select few games.   There's plenty of money to be made in empty seats.



Because nothing says a product is valued correctly like not selling it.

Right, and empty seats lead to SO much more business for concessions  :popcorn:, Cat's Closet, and local businesses/restaurants.  Not to mention how much better the fan experience is in a partially empty stadium, or how much better it is that opposing teams can hear themselves think without all that pesky noise.  After all, the people who can afford the highest priced tickets are the most respectful and most likely to stay sitting and quiet.

Please... selling more tickets at a lower price is better in EVERY aspect.  Manhattan businesses, the team, the school's image, and families who can't afford $60 tickets all benefit.  In an ideal world, you would have tickets priced so that the increased number of people buying the tickets offsets the lower cost of each ticket, and the multiplier effect from all those extra visitors results in a significant increase in overall benefits to the university and community.  You want to price people out of buying those tickets, and you can count on a future as a wine-and-cheese crowd like the one down the river.  No thanks.  Fill the Bill.
Title: Re: GUYS!!!
Post by: 06wildcat on September 03, 2010, 02:38:45 PM
Dax's point isn't without merit, but K-State hasn't approached the point where it would merit that. Also, It's much easier to leave 4-6k seats unsold with a Top 25 team than it is to start leaving 10-15k seats empty because the highest expectation is to simply make a bowl game.

K-State hasn't reached a point where they're alienating regular season ticket holders because buying individual tickets is still more expensive (less any donation). That may change if a large portion of season ticket holders can't attend the NU game this year. In that case, from a financial standpoint, they would be better off buying individual tickets.
Title: Re: GUYS!!!
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 03, 2010, 02:46:14 PM
So I see the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) function still isn't done yet for people registering over here.
Title: Re: GUYS!!!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 03, 2010, 02:52:03 PM
K-State hasn't reached a point where they're alienating regular season ticket holders because buying individual tickets is still more expensive (less any donation). That may change if a large portion of season ticket holders can't attend the NU game this year. In that case, from a financial standpoint, they would be better off buying individual tickets.

This is only true if those season ticket holders do not care how shitty their seats are.
Title: Re: GUYS!!!
Post by: 06wildcat on September 03, 2010, 04:24:13 PM
K-State hasn't reached a point where they're alienating regular season ticket holders because buying individual tickets is still more expensive (less any donation). That may change if a large portion of season ticket holders can't attend the NU game this year. In that case, from a financial standpoint, they would be better off buying individual tickets.

This is only true if those season ticket holders do not care how shitty their seats are.

That help?
Title: Re: GUYS!!!
Post by: TheMadCatter on September 03, 2010, 04:24:28 PM
So I see the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) function still isn't done yet for people registering over here.

They obviously don't get it when it comes to Dax.
Title: Re: GUYS!!!
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 03, 2010, 04:40:54 PM
Nothing sells potential in game advertisers and game day sponsors like the usual 4-6,000 empty seats.   

Why put the effort into understanding the financials and price points to sell seats??   Simply don't think it through, admire the 4-6,000 empty seats from the A.D.'s suite and go about your day.   Maybe next time enough folks will step up and buy those tickets, then again, maybe not.    Plus, charge the same amount for those upper level tickets as you do for those lower level tickets and deliver a significantly reduced overall gameday experience.   F_ck'm . . . they should've given more money, or bought their tickets earlier.

Marketing to a captured audience is simply far to time consuming as well . . . why pay mere pennies on the dollar to market to an additional 4-6,000 people as compared to what it would cost if they were spread like seeds in the wind?? 



Title: Re: GUYS!!!
Post by: Joker on September 03, 2010, 08:53:15 PM
Nothing sells potential in game advertisers and game day sponsors like the usual 4-6,000 empty seats.   

Why put the effort into understanding the financials and price points to sell seats??   Simply don't think it through, admire the 4-6,000 empty seats from the A.D.'s suite and go about your day.   Maybe next time enough folks will step up and buy those tickets, then again, maybe not.    Plus, charge the same amount for those upper level tickets as you do for those lower level tickets and deliver a significantly reduced overall gameday experience.   F_ck'm . . . they should've given more money, or bought their tickets earlier.

Marketing to a captured audience is simply far to time consuming as well . . . why pay mere pennies on the dollar to market to an additional 4-6,000 people as compared to what it would cost if they were spread like seeds in the wind?? 





You're crazy dax.  We're K-State, not Ohio State!
Title: Re: GUYS!!!
Post by: jtksu on September 03, 2010, 09:10:29 PM
Captive audience.
Title: Re: GUYS!!!
Post by: TBL on September 03, 2010, 09:15:29 PM
Doubt there'll be any empty seats where I'm at.




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Title: Re: GUYS!!!
Post by: 06wildcat on September 03, 2010, 09:29:14 PM
Captive audience.

Fact, the most expensive advertising space at Memorial Stadium in Lawrence is on the exit gates.
Title: Re: GUYS!!!
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 03, 2010, 10:04:45 PM
Captive audience.

Fact, the most expensive advertising space at near Memorial Stadium in Lawrence is on the exit gates criminal defense attorney's office.


ok
Title: Re: GUYS!!!
Post by: jtksu on September 03, 2010, 10:12:09 PM
Cheapest ad locations?  The back of the door in Mangino's jumbo crapper. 
Title: Re: GUYS!!!
Post by: slimz on September 04, 2010, 01:59:18 AM
Consumer surplus is not an economic concept that the K-State athletic department has had a great grasp on in the past. It seems like they're starting to get it under the new administration.
Title: Re: GUYS!!!
Post by: slackcat on September 04, 2010, 05:58:51 AM
Sold out game = bunch of hayseeds.  This salt-o-the earth is staying home. :users: