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General Discussion => Essentially Flyertalk => Topic started by: EllToPay on August 04, 2010, 09:37:58 PM
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Really starting to get into wine, thanks to Mrs. EllToPay. Just finished off a bottle of Trio Vinegar, I guess its good. Still a noob at this wine stuff.
What are some good, non expensive bottles? Red or white...
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When I was a smoker, loved cab/merlot blends.
now mostly a chardonnay drinker.
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Really starting to get into wine, thanks to Mrs. EllToPay. Just finished off a bottle of Trio Vinegar, I guess its good. Still a noob at this wine stuff.
What are some good, non expensive bottles? Red or white...
I'm big into Spanish wines and you can get some very good prices on them now. Tapena is an extremely well priced brand...I love the Tempranillo and Garnacha.
http://www.tapenawines.com/spanish-wines.html
*edit- Forgot to mention that Glazier distributes it in Wichita and KC, so you shouldn't have too much trouble finding it.
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What's non-expensive in your book? :dunno: (ftp://:dunno:)
I can give some decent $8-13 dollar wines...
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What's non-expensive in your book? :dunno: (ftp://:dunno:)
I can give some decent $8-13 dollar wines...
Less than $40 a bottle
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What's non-expensive in your book? :dunno: (ftp://:dunno:)
I can give some decent $8-13 dollar wines...
Less than $40 a bottle
Sweet, that opens things up quite a bit. One of my favorites, at any price- Pares Balta, Mas Elena. Run ya about $25-30 at a liquor store.
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You can buy a whole lotta Mums? :dunno:
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it takes a long time to understand wine. i'm not sure the best way to do it- by starting with milder blends or by deciding on a varietal you like and getting to really know it, then branch out from there.
probably the best way to do it is to stick with one style until you figure it out. the same grape can be influenced by so many factors that you might think you're drinking a completely different varietal. maybe start splitting a bottle a night with your wife. don't spend too much, you won't know what you're tasting and a lot of the more expensive wines aren't meant for immediate consumption.
on the weekends make it a game. decide on a grape, let's say chardonnay. you each buy two bottles of chard, one that is <$10 and one that is between $20-$30. don't tell each other which is which. you each serve each other your wines and jot down some thoughts on each and talk about them while you're drinking them, try to figure them out. after you've knocked down half of all four bottles, which would be a bottle each, make the big reveal to each other. then compare notes and talk more about which you liked and why. it's pretty fun.
i was lucky, i started working at a liquor store around the time i turned 21 and in an effort to get us to sell more wine (because the margins are so high on it), the owner had us take classes and drink it a lot. even though i've been drinking it forever, i still learn a lot.
also buy a decent book about wine and learn about the different grapes and their history.
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it takes a long time to understand wine. i'm not sure the best way to do it- by starting with milder blends or by deciding on a varietal you like and getting to really know it, then branch out from there.
probably the best way to do it is to stick with one style until you figure it out. the same grape can be influenced by so many factors that you might think you're drinking a completely different varietal. maybe start splitting a bottle a night with your wife. don't spend too much, you won't know what you're tasting and a lot of the more expensive wines aren't meant for immediate consumption.
on the weekends make it a game. decide on a grape, let's say chardonnay. you each buy two bottles of chard, one that is <$10 and one that is between $20-$30. don't tell each other which is which. you each serve each other your wines and jot down some thoughts on each and talk about them while you're drinking them, try to figure them out. after you've knocked down half of all four bottles, which would be a bottle each, make the big reveal to each other. then compare notes and talk more about which you liked and why. it's pretty fun.
i was lucky, i started working at a liquor store around the time i turned 21 and in an effort to get us to sell more wine (because the margins are so high on it), the owner had us take classes and drink it a lot. even though i've been drinking it forever, i still learn a lot.
also buy a decent book about wine and learn about the different grapes and their history.
yeah, if you put a $200 bottle and a cheapie in front of me, i couldn't tell the difference.
i prefer red right now, whites are ok.
what do you mean by milder blends? what do i look for on the bottle? :confused:
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Less than $40 a bottle
dude! for that money you can drink like a rough ridin' king. that's not budget at all. where are you located?
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Less than $40 a bottle
dude! for that money you can drink like a fracking king. that's not budget at all. where are you located?
never said i was on a budget, just didnt want to spend a lot of money on something i couldnt appreciate :dunno:
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I had a bottle of blvd two jokers tonight and it was unreal good. I think it was like 8 bucks.
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Mondavi is a good solid Cab. Depending where you buy it, you can get it for $14-$18/ bottle
I also like Wolf Blass. Red label. They have a blend of Shiraz/Cab that is pretty good. Around $20per.
I would buy a couple diff types in the above cost ranges until I found a few I like. Doing this will also help you find a few tastes you don't like/do like.
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Sys is right, you can get tons of really nice wines under $40. Hell, you can get a bunch for under $15.
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you didn't say where you were. since you don't know what you like, if you live anywhere moderately urban, i'd just look for a solid wine oriented liquor store, give them a price range, let them know you'll be spending some serious money and let them pick for you for a year or two.
by then you should at least know what you like and can just worry about finding it.
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Smoking Loon is pretty good
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sys, KC
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sys, KC
ask piss which store to go to, and then turn yourself to their mercy. there's no way you'll do better on your own.
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Recently just had 2 bottles left at my house. Know nothing about wines either. Are either of these any good?
Francis Coppola Diamond Collection 2007 Black Label Claret
Starborough Sauvignan Blanc from New Zealand 2008
:cheers:
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if it tastes good it tastes good, don't worry about price.
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There is no reason to buy anything other than Charles Shaw. $2 a bottle, and it taste like $15/bottle wine.
NO REASON!!!
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Recently just had 2 bottles left at my house. Know nothing about wines either. Are either of these any good?
Francis Coppola Diamond Collection 2007 Black Label Claret
Starborough Sauvignan Blanc from New Zealand 2008
:cheers:
That Coppola is a good one.
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Recently just had 2 bottles left at my house. Know nothing about wines either. Are either of these any good?
Francis Coppola Diamond Collection 2007 Black Label Claret
Starborough Sauvignan Blanc from New Zealand 2008
:cheers:
That Coppola is a good one.
Also did a great job with Apocalypse Now and The Godfather.
It actually is the same family, FWIW.
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Mondavi is a good solid Cab. Depending where you buy it, you can get it for $14-$18/ bottle
I also like Wolf Blass. Red label. They have a blend of Shiraz/Cab that is pretty good. Around $20per.
I would buy a couple diff types in the above cost ranges until I found a few I like. Doing this will also help you find a few tastes you don't like/do like.
Sams has the Mondavi 08 cab for $9. Just loaded up on it. Very good every day cab imo.
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Favorite chard is made by cuvaison. Get the s block if available.
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Favorite chard is made by cuvaison. Get the s block if available.
no offense, but you sound like an enormo douche.
cab is ok, but chard? GTFO!
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I just go to liquor store, find wines rated above 80 or whatever, and less than $15.
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Favorite chard is made by cuvaison. Get the s block if available.
no offense, but you sound like an enormo douche.
cab is ok, but chard? GTFO!
true story: On phone at the time and didn't know how to spell chardonay (sp?)
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sys, KC
ask piss which store to go to, and then turn yourself to their mercy. there's no way you'll do better on your own.
Lukas Liquor @ 119 and Metcalf on the KS side, or Lukas Liquor @ 103rd & State Line on MO side. The MO one does wine tasting in store. Both stores have the best selection and knowledgeable staff in KC.
since you mentioned red wine, try a couple of these blends-
Ferrari-Carano Sonoma County Siena (~$25)
74% Sangiovese, 26% Malbec
Estancia Meritage (~$25)
58% Cabernet Sauvignon, 34% Merlot, 8% Petit Verdot
Both should still be available @ Lukas, I know the Siena is. Sometimes the Estancia is hard. If they aren't, they have a ton of other meritages/blends.
It's probably best for you to start with a couple of good blends so you can get used to the taste. Bad blends are bad. Set a baseline with the good blends then work your way down to $10-$15 varietals, then back up to more expensive varietals.
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Lukas is ginormous. Never seen a liquor store that huge.
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Lukas is ginormous. Never seen a liquor store that huge.
yeah, it's pretty much the greatest thing ever invented in the history of mankind. cool part is that they actually hire people who know their crap. the problem that you run into at a lot of liquor stores when you ask the people who work there for help is that they're really just puppets for the distributors, meaning that they're going to push you to the wines that they're getting the best margins on through their distributor. same thing happens at a lot of restaurants, their wine lists are filled with wines that the distributor bought cheap b/c no one else would buy it, then they unload it at bars/restaurants/liquor stores.
also you have to be carefull when you buy wine b/c of the rating, there's so many ratings out there now that they've lost their value.
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Lukas is ginormous. Never seen a liquor store that huge.
yeah, it's pretty much the greatest thing ever invented in the history of mankind. cool part is that they actually hire people who know their crap. the problem that you run into at a lot of liquor stores when you ask the people who work there for help is that they're really just puppets for the distributors, meaning that they're going to push you to the wines that they're getting the best margins on through their distributor. same thing happens at a lot of restaurants, their wine lists are filled with wines that the distributor bought cheap b/c no one else would buy it, then they unload it at bars/restaurants/liquor stores.
also you have to be carefull when you buy wine b/c of the rating, there's so many ratings out there now that they've lost their value.
Ya I agree about the wine ratings, but I can't really discern good wine from bad wine so it's no biggie as long as I don't spend much.
Lukas has a good beer selection too but I like the Royal Liquor here at 103rd and state line, lots of hard to find stuff there.
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The best wine under $40 is Joel Gott. It's a Chardonnay.
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Lukas is ginormous. Never seen a liquor store that huge.
yeah, it's pretty much the greatest thing ever invented in the history of mankind. cool part is that they actually hire people who know their crap. the problem that you run into at a lot of liquor stores when you ask the people who work there for help is that they're really just puppets for the distributors, meaning that they're going to push you to the wines that they're getting the best margins on through their distributor. same thing happens at a lot of restaurants, their wine lists are filled with wines that the distributor bought cheap b/c no one else would buy it, then they unload it at bars/restaurants/liquor stores.
also you have to be carefull when you buy wine b/c of the rating, there's so many ratings out there now that they've lost their value.
Ya I agree about the wine ratings, but I can't really discern good wine from bad wine so it's no biggie as long as I don't spend much.
Lukas has a good beer selection too but I like the Royal Liquor here at 103rd and state line, lots of hard to find stuff there.
Royal is ok, too expensive imo.
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Lukas is ginormous. Never seen a liquor store that huge.
yeah, it's pretty much the greatest thing ever invented in the history of mankind. cool part is that they actually hire people who know their crap. the problem that you run into at a lot of liquor stores when you ask the people who work there for help is that they're really just puppets for the distributors, meaning that they're going to push you to the wines that they're getting the best margins on through their distributor. same thing happens at a lot of restaurants, their wine lists are filled with wines that the distributor bought cheap b/c no one else would buy it, then they unload it at bars/restaurants/liquor stores.
also you have to be carefull when you buy wine b/c of the rating, there's so many ratings out there now that they've lost their value.
Ya I agree about the wine ratings, but I can't really discern good wine from bad wine so it's no biggie as long as I don't spend much.
Lukas has a good beer selection too but I like the Royal Liquor here at 103rd and state line, lots of hard to find stuff there.
Royal is ok, too expensive imo.
ya, spent a couple bucks too much on a del trems and southern tier creme brulee stout. :(
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Creme brulee stout? Were they out of the appletini wine coolers?
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Creme brulee stout? Were they out of the appletini wine coolers?
Hah. It's not that sweet. Plus it's a fuckin stout.
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IMO almost anything that is coming out of Argentina or Chile (specially the Malbec's) are phenomenal for the price.
If you have the opportunity take a wine class. K-State offers one for credit. When your homework is to drink 1 new wine a week, you're doing alright.
$40 is a huge cushion. You can really find some great Pinot Noir's starting round about $25. Oregon has been producing some decent cheaper, while Napa, as always, is putting out phenomenal Pinot grapes.
For the price i think the shiraz's are pretty tough to beat.
but honestly, follow these steps to a happy life of wine:
1. Learn how to properly address and keep a wine (not very tough, youtube probably has instructionals).
2. Learn how to taste. It also helps if you recognize what you are looking for or what the varietal is supposed to accomplish.
3. Drink a ton of it. Order flights every chance you get and taste as much as you can.
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In downtown KC, I used to go to Cellar Rat(on Baltimore iirc, around 18th st.). They are small, but have a decent selection and seem to know quite a bit.
In NKC, Gomers used to be pretty good too. Knew their crap.
Everywhere else, I agree on Lukas.
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Rimann has a good seletion, I think. :dunno:
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Creme brulee stout? Were they out of the appletini wine coolers?
Hah. It's not that sweet. Plus it's a fuckin stout.
I prefer the more coffee-flavored ones over the more chocolaty ones. Prob just a bit jealous because I imagine it tastes fantastic. Plus, seemed like a pretty good time to bust your balls.
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Creme brulee stout? Were they out of the appletini wine coolers?
Hah. It's not that sweet. Plus it's a fuckin stout.
I prefer the more coffee-flavored ones over the more chocolaty ones. Prob just a bit jealous because I imagine it tastes fantastic. Plus, seemed like a pretty good time to bust your balls.
Southern Tier also produces "Mokah" - a coffee/chocolate stout. Superb.
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sys, KC
ask piss which store to go to, and then turn yourself to their mercy. there's no way you'll do better on your own.
Lukas Liquor @ 119 and Metcalf on the KS side, or Lukas Liquor @ 103rd & State Line on MO side. The MO one does wine tasting in store. Both stores have the best selection and knowledgeable staff in KC.
since you mentioned red wine, try a couple of these blends-
Ferrari-Carano Sonoma County Siena (~$25)
74% Sangiovese, 26% Malbec
Estancia Meritage (~$25)
58% Cabernet Sauvignon, 34% Merlot, 8% Petit Verdot
Both should still be available @ Lukas, I know the Siena is. Sometimes the Estancia is hard. If they aren't, they have a ton of other meritages/blends.
It's probably best for you to start with a couple of good blends so you can get used to the taste. Bad blends are bad. Set a baseline with the good blends then work your way down to $10-$15 varietals, then back up to more expensive varietals.
:love: :lick: That's a reserve, isn't it? Their reserve pinot noir is badass, too.
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Ya they call it a Reserve but I don't think that means anything. Costco had it last year for $19 a bottle. I drank a million gallons of it, give or take 10 gallons.
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owen roe makes good wines. sinister hand (cab sauv) will run you 20 bucks a bottle. agree about the malbecs. almost everything coming out of spain right now is worth a swig. look into some alvaro palacios.
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I think the reserve thing prob means something, but not much. Marketing excuse to charge a few extra bucks per bottle.
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getting much better at telling the diffy's between reds.
:eye:
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Vermeil Wines
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I like wine, but I've determined I will not learn to like the good stuff. I did that with beer and there's no going back to crap like bud light. I like cheap wine right now, and as long as I don't start trying more expensive stuff it will stay that way.
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Vermeil Wines
www.vermeilwines.com
i've been to a couple of his wine dinners he's been doing recently in kc. some of his stuff isn't bad, none of it's that great.
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i'm related to a guy that does hospitality type stuff for a pretty big winery on the west coast. their wines have been on top chef a couple of times. he gets their stuff for like half off. i currently have a case in my basement. you can buy a couple of their wines at a few places in mhk for @25/bottle. i got it shipped for @7. wish i liked wine more. dunno.
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Vermeil Wines
www.vermeilwines.com
i've been to a couple of his wine dinners he's been doing recently in kc. some of his stuff isn't bad, none of it's that great.
Tell me more. Dick Vermeil is my favorite person in the world. Would love to attend one of these.
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i'm related to a guy that does hospitality type stuff for a pretty big winery on the west coast. their wines have been on top chef a couple of times. he gets their stuff for like half off. i currently have a case in my basement. you can buy a couple of their wines at a few places in mhk for @25/bottle. i got it shipped for @7. wish i liked wine more. dunno.
Sure you are loser.
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<--- would hug Dick Vermeil.
Loved him like I love Huggy. Big Time.
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<--- would hug Dick Vermeil.
Loved him like I love Huggy. Big Time.
I have some j rake creepster of the year stories, re: Dick Vermeil. :fatty:
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<--- would hug Dick Vermeil.
Loved him like I love Huggy. Big Time.
I have some j rake creepster of the year stories, re: Dick Vermeil. :fatty:
Do tell. If any are restraining order worthy, make them either hypothetical or about "a guy you know".
TIA
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<--- would hug Dick Vermeil.
Loved him like I love Huggy. Big Time.
I have some j rake creepster of the year stories, re: Dick Vermeil. :fatty:
Do tell. If any are restraining order worthy, make them either hypothetical or about "a guy you know".
TIA
Let's just say the Vermeil residence in Coatesville, PA, has blocked my cell #, and that Carol gets angry if you call after the cut off time (about 10 p.m.) :D
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he has them at the garozzo's downtown. he walks around the dining room and talks to everyone, he's really cool. you get to drink the wine and talk to him. he loves kc. i'll let you know when the next one is.
i think his wine is ok, but some of it really isn't.
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<--- would hug Dick Vermeil.
Loved him like I love Huggy. Big Time.
I have some j rake creepster of the year stories, re: Dick Vermeil. :fatty:
Do tell. If any are restraining order worthy, make them either hypothetical or about "a guy you know".
TIA
Let's just say the Vermeil residence in Coatesville, PA, has blocked my cell #, and that Carol gets angry if you call after the cut off time (about 10 p.m.) :D
:surprised:
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he has them at the garozzo's downtown. he walks around the dining room and talks to everyone, he's really cool. you get to drink the wine and talk to him. he loves kc. i'll let you know when the next one is.
i think his wine is ok, but some of it really isn't.
Yeah, I just want to get really drunk and talk about the '03 Chiefs.
Also want him to diagram a play on a napkin or something.
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he has them at the garozzo's downtown. he walks around the dining room and talks to everyone, he's really cool. you get to drink the wine and talk to him. he loves kc. i'll let you know when the next one is.
i think his wine is ok, but some of it really isn't.
Yeah, I just want to get really drunk and talk about the '03 Chiefs.
Also want him to diagram a play on a napkin or something.
I bet many coaches could make a pretty fun second career doing exactly this.
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he has them at the garozzo's downtown. he walks around the dining room and talks to everyone, he's really cool. you get to drink the wine and talk to him. he loves kc. i'll let you know when the next one is.
i think his wine is ok, but some of it really isn't.
Yeah, I just want to get really drunk and talk about the '03 Chiefs.
Also want him to diagram a play on a napkin or something.
I bet many coaches could make a pretty fun second career doing exactly this.
Or this: http://bit.ly/hXsjLh
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he has them at the garozzo's downtown. he walks around the dining room and talks to everyone, he's really cool. you get to drink the wine and talk to him. he loves kc. i'll let you know when the next one is.
i think his wine is ok, but some of it really isn't.
Yeah, I just want to get really drunk and talk about the '03 Chiefs.
Also want him to diagram a play on a napkin or something.
Remember the Pittsburgh kicker trying to trip Dante Hall?
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he has them at the garozzo's downtown. he walks around the dining room and talks to everyone, he's really cool. you get to drink the wine and talk to him. he loves kc. i'll let you know when the next one is.
i think his wine is ok, but some of it really isn't.
Yeah, I just want to get really drunk and talk about the '03 Chiefs.
Also want him to diagram a play on a napkin or something.
I bet many coaches could make a pretty fun second career doing exactly this.
Or this: http://bit.ly/hXsjLh
Booking Fee Range :
$30,001 - $50,000 ( About Speaking Fees )
:eek:
More lucrative, but probably not as fun.
Have you saved up your spare change to book him yet?
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Booking Fee Range :
$30,001 - $50,000 ( About Speaking Fees )
:eek:
More lucrative, but probably not as fun.
Have you saved up your spare change to book him yet?
I contacted his agent four years ago and tried to get a reduced rate. The price they list at those sites isn't the actual price for many of the "celebs," and I doubt many groups are ponying up $40k to listen to Dick Vermeil speak.
I will say, though, that Vermeil could easily justify that rate since he'll inspire a room full of people and instantly turn them into hard-working, successful bad asses that can dominate whatever profession they choose.
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Booking Fee Range :
$30,001 - $50,000 ( About Speaking Fees )
:eek:
More lucrative, but probably not as fun.
Have you saved up your spare change to book him yet?
I contacted his agent four years ago and tried to get a reduced rate. The price they list at those sites isn't the actual price for many of the "celebs," and I doubt many groups are ponying up $40k to listen to Dick Vermeil speak.
I will say, though, that Vermeil could easily justify that rate since he'll inspire a room full of people and instantly turn them into hard-working, successful bad asses that can dominate whatever profession they choose.
Unless their profession is defensive in nature.
Burn.
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I like wine, but I've determined I will not learn to like the good stuff. I did that with beer and there's no going back to crap like bud light. I like cheap wine right now, and as long as I don't start trying more expensive stuff it will stay that way.
don't let fake wine snobs intimidate you. you can find perfectly enjoyable wine for under $10 a bottle (actually, you can find it for under $5), even in the us.
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I like wine, but I've determined I will not learn to like the good stuff. I did that with beer and there's no going back to crap like bud light. I like cheap wine right now, and as long as I don't start trying more expensive stuff it will stay that way.
don't let fake wine snobs intimidate you. you can find perfectly enjoyable wine for under $10 a bottle (actually, you can find it for under $5), even in the us.
I agree 100% with this message.
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under $5? no. under $10? yes but you have to have the baseline foundation/knowledge to find the good ones in a sea of crap. $10-$15, hot spot.
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My dad owns a bar in New York and has about 10 beers on tap, and there's also two wine dispensers that are labeled "chardonnay" and "white zin." I have heard several customers comment that the chardonnay is "excellent."
That always catches me off guard.
"You've never drank box wine?" I ask them.
Them: "Yes, I have. But it's disg...wait...is this Franzia?!?" :horrorsurprise:
Me: :lol:
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franzia really not bad for the price/box.
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Please make a list of 3 to 8 dollar/bottle wines I should try. Tia
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under $5? no.
big house red in the 3l box. you can usually get it for $18/box or so. it's not as good as when grahm ran bonny doon, but for $4.50, i'll drink the crap out of that stuff.
there's other bargains around, including some of the other octavin boxes. but i'm not really exploring much else as long as i can get this wine at this price.
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For the record, my standards are somewhere between Macaroni Grill Pinot Grigio and some no-name box wine (also pinot grigio :love: ).
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under $5? no.
big house red in the 3l box. you can usually get it for $18/box or so. it's not as good as when grahm ran bonny doon, but for $4.50, i'll drink the crap out of that stuff.
there's other bargains around, including some of the other octavin boxes. but i'm not really exploring much else as long as i can get this wine at this price.
i buy my mom a bottle of cigar volant every year, she never drinks it. i do.
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I like Macaroni Grill's chianti.
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i buy my mom a bottle of cigar volant every year, she never drinks it. i do.
your mom sounds like a joker. but hey, if it makes her feel good, next time her birthday rolls around tell her i'm drinking a cigar volant for her too.
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I drink Black Box. :users:
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I like wine, but I've determined I will not learn to like the good stuff. I did that with beer and there's no going back to crap like bud light. I like cheap wine right now, and as long as I don't start trying more expensive stuff it will stay that way.
We would be perfect drinking buddies. I've given this reason to everyone who has asked me why I don't drink wine. I blow enough money on being a beer snob, I can't start caring about wine too.
:cheers: <----- with Guinness
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i buy my mom a bottle of cigar volant every year, she never drinks it. i do.
your mom sounds like a joker. but hey, if it makes her feel good, next time her birthday rolls around tell her i'm drinking a cigar volant for her too.
she doesn't like red wine. prefers some strawberry flavored white zin.
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i buy my mom a bottle of cigar volant every year, she never drinks it. i do.
your mom sounds like a joker. but hey, if it makes her feel good, next time her birthday rolls around tell her i'm drinking a cigar volant for her too.
she doesn't like red wine. prefers some strawberry flavored white zin.
sounds like a huge loser to me (IMHO)
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i buy my mom a bottle of cigar volant every year, she never drinks it. i do.
your mom sounds like a joker. but hey, if it makes her feel good, next time her birthday rolls around tell her i'm drinking a cigar volant for her too.
she doesn't like red wine. prefers some strawberry flavored white zin.
sounds like a huge loser to me (IMHO)
sure thing, pixelmaster, sure thing :lol:
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i buy my mom a bottle of cigar volant every year, she never drinks it. i do.
your mom sounds like a joker. but hey, if it makes her feel good, next time her birthday rolls around tell her i'm drinking a cigar volant for her too.
she doesn't like red wine. prefers some strawberry flavored white zin.
sounds like a huge loser to me (IMHO)
sure thing, pixelmaster, sure thing :lol:
my being a loser has nothing to do with the loser-ishness nature of your mom. In fact it bolsters my claim, i.e. it takes one to know one.
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sure thing pixel supreme sure thing :lol:
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sure thing pixel supreme sure thing :lol:
amen, bro amen
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What do you guys dip your wine in? I'm a horseradish type of guy. Thoughts?
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I
I like wine, but I've determined I will not learn to like the good stuff. I did that with beer and there's no going back to crap like bud light. I like cheap wine right now, and as long as I don't start trying more expensive stuff it will stay that way.
We would be perfect drinking buddies. I've given this reason to everyone who has asked me why I don't drink wine. I blow enough money on being a beer snob, I can't start caring about wine too.
:cheers: <----- with Guinness
start brewing your own. Then bring some by my place and we can trade homebrews and drink shitty boxed wine. We'll live like the kings of op for a night.
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What do you guys dip your wine in? I'm a horseradish type of guy. Thoughts?
oh man. great offshoot thread topic wwb. i also put my wine in sauce just like you do. bbq sauce. gates to be exact. good call here. you and i are exactly alike. if i'm drinking white though (which is hardly ever) i go w/ something a little less harsh. kc masterpiece. you're welcome guys.
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I tried to class up my night and buy the good boxed wine (black box). It smells of poop and tastes worse than stuff at half its price. Unfortunately I don't have someone to sit across from and discuss all the nuances only to reveal the price at the end of the night. Heard doing that is a blast. Still going to drink all of it though.
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20053815-71.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20&dlvrit=142337
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20053815-71.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20&dlvrit=142337
within reason. anyone (and this includes all of you tards) can tell the difference between two buck chuck, a $10 bottle of Mondavi Select and a Frog's Leap Cab.
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20053815-71.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20&dlvrit=142337
within reason. anyone (and this includes all of you tards) can tell the difference between two buck chuck, a $10 bottle of Mondavi Select and a Frog's Leap Cab.
I really posted this for sys' benefit. I'm not much of a wine person.
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I am not surprised one bit. This has been shown many times in fact.
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the whole point of blending varietals is to make the sum of the parts taste better than they would on their own, because they're cheap pieces of crap parts that can't stand on their own. what a dumbass article.
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http://www.snooth.com/articles/commentary/wheres-your-palate-slideshow/
:dunno:
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That's all the affirmation I needed to keep on keepin' on brosephs.
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the whole point of blending varietals is to make the sum of the parts taste better than they would on their own, because they're cheap pieces of crap parts that can't stand on their own. what a dumbass article.
wish the fashion for varietals wasn't so strong. good cheap blends are so much easier than good cheap varietals.
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the whole point of blending varietals is to make the sum of the parts taste better than they would on their own, because they're cheap pieces of crap parts that can't stand on their own. what a dumbass article.
wish the fashion for varietals wasn't so strong. good cheap blends are so much easier than good cheap varietals.
sounds like you happy with good cheap blends so why worry about the fashion for varietals? regardless, it's quite a conundrum isn't it?
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Threads like these really class up my google ads
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sounds like you happy with good cheap blends so why worry about the fashion for varietals? regardless, it's quite a conundrum isn't it?
'cause i'd like more selection in my under $6 category. agree on conundrumosity of it all.
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i just saw something in walgreens called chocovine. gross.
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i just saw something in walgreens called chocovine. gross.
walgreens here sells flats of beer that look hilariously cheap
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I have only one rule, I am not drinking rough ridin' merlot!!
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I have only one rule, I am not drinking rough ridin' merlot!!
your obviously not getting laid then.
Tall Glass Of Merlot Get Her In The Mode. Two Tall Glasses Of Merlot Get Her Out Her Robe. Weezy
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I have only one rule, I am not drinking rough ridin' merlot!!
your obviously not getting laid then.
Tall Glass Of Merlot Get Her In The Mode. Two Tall Glasses Of Merlot Get Her Out Her Robe. Weezy
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0375063/
I am in the same boat as the other beer snobs, my mental database is full of beer data and I cannot remember anything about wines. I actually tried to find some good wines I liked a couple of times but the next time I am in the liquor store I have forgotten everything and I am starting all over.
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i'm related to a guy that does hospitality type stuff for a pretty big winery on the west coast. their wines have been on top chef a couple of times. he gets their stuff for like half off. i currently have a case in my basement. you can buy a couple of their wines at a few places in mhk for @25/bottle. i got it shipped for @7. wish i liked wine more. dunno.
umm.....I will begin calling in favors now that we're on the same page and besties. Check pm.
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Currently drinking:
The Show 2010 Malbec (Argentina)
Is good I guess. On second glass, the nose is good, not overly spicy for how Malbecs seem to be going these days. Starting to get a very little misty fog in my brain. It isn't dealing with my runny nose/sinuses like I wanted, but it is also more smooth and calming. Not vineagary or harsh at all. Maybe my senses are just dull right now.
Either way, good experience so far. It paired well with my dinner of leftover steamed rice and lamb as well as "Moves Like Jagger"
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Had some weird white wine/lime juice combo tonight. Really odd.
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Had some weird white wine/lime juice combo tonight. Really odd.
that sounds absolutely terrible. are you being polite about a shitty situation?
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Had some weird white wine/lime juice combo tonight. Really odd.
Was it a Leslie's Pussy? (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.capitalareacobraclub.com%2Fgallery2%2Fd%2F107186-1%2Fwino%2Bsmiley.gif&hash=c0353148de9f5b9a92fa4970f152b59120b5b4a8)
http://www.barnonedrinks.com/drinks/by_ingredient/w/white-wine-966.html (http://www.barnonedrinks.com/drinks/by_ingredient/w/white-wine-966.html)
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BotaBox.
wife has been drinking the Riesling for a while and likes it a lot.
Decided to try the cab. V surprisingly good.
Supposedly in a box as a tree hugger thing.
Cab is comparable to Mondavi.
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wine is wine is wine.
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I honestly have thought about becoming a tree hugger.
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I honestly have thought about becoming a tree hugger.
Start w/ the wine. The rest sounds like actual sacrifice and/or work.
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I've found myself enjoying wine drunk far more than beer drunk.
Tried the Louis jadot Beaujolais Villages 2011 tonight, mostly because I knew the gf would probably enjoy gamay. Enjoyed it. Would buy again, especially at $10 a bottle.
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I've found myself enjoying wine drunk far more than beer drunk.
Tried the Louis jadot Beaujolais Villages 2011 tonight, mostly because I knew the gf would probably enjoy gamay. Enjoyed it. Would buy again, especially at $10 a bottle.
2 year old beaujolais? What in the world.
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I've found myself enjoying wine drunk far more than beer drunk.
well its faster, any american can appreciate that
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Yellowtail4life
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I've found myself enjoying wine drunk far more than beer drunk.
Tried the Louis jadot Beaujolais Villages 2011 tonight, mostly because I knew the gf would probably enjoy gamay. Enjoyed it. Would buy again, especially at $10 a bottle.
2 year old beaujolais? What in the world.
Beaujolais Nouveau is the one that is for immediate consumption. Comes out like 3rd week of November every year. Beaujolais Villages can be drank within a year or two.
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Yellowtail4life
Unless you have a pretty refined palate or want to look fancy, there's nothing wrong with Yellowtail. If you ask the store, there are others options in that price range that are a bit better though.
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just absolutely destroyed some terrible $10 tempranillo (cubo, cubano, don't remember?)
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I've found myself enjoying wine drunk far more than beer drunk.
Tried the Louis jadot Beaujolais Villages 2011 tonight, mostly because I knew the gf would probably enjoy gamay. Enjoyed it. Would buy again, especially at $10 a bottle.
2 year old beaujolais? What in the world.
Beaujolais Nouveau is the one that is for immediate consumption. Comes out like 3rd week of November every year. Beaujolais Villages can be drank within a year or two.
ok. good to know.
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Yellowtail4life
Unless you have a pretty refined palate or want to look fancy, there's nothing wrong with Yellowtail. If you ask the store, there are others options in that price range that are a bit better though.
I've always assumed its like the bud light of wines
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corked some cain concept last night, love that wine.
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Tried the Louis jadot Beaujolais Villages 2011 tonight, mostly because I knew the gf would probably enjoy gamay. Enjoyed it. Would buy again, especially at $10 a bottle.
Yeah. That stuff is great. Super easy to drink
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Drinking a Mondavi Chardonnay. Like it better than Kendall Jackson. It'll do.
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Yellow tail big bold red
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i've been pretty much drinking nothing but some cheap burgundy, reds and cremants. i think it's maybe a trader joe's private label. not sure.
blason de bourgogne. runs like $7-11.
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we've been crushing cheap chardonnay all summer here at casa del roja hispana steve dave
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looks like it's not a tj private label, but most of their stuff is sent to the uk. tj only has the pinot noir and the cremants. maybe a white too, don't know.
at any rate, it's a good value. wish more of their varieties were available here.
http://www.blason.com/uk/wine.html
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what type of rough ridin' chard do you bros prefer, oak or steel?
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what type of rough ridin' chard do you bros prefer, oak or steel?
whatever has a fancier than it's price looking label and is normally $12 but is on sale for $10
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what type of rough ridin' chard do you bros prefer, oak or steel?
whatever has a fancier than it's price looking label and is normally $12 but is on sale for $10
The one that says it is from California and looks classy.
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what type of rough ridin' chard do you bros prefer, oak or steel?
#teamUnoakedChard #seriousanswertotrollpost #gocats
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what type of rough ridin' chard do you bros prefer, oak or steel?
whatever has a fancier than it's price looking label and is normally $12 but is on sale for $10
also NO clever/cutesy/ innuendo names
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what type of rough ridin' chard do you bros prefer, oak or steel?
#teamUnoakedChard #seriousanswertotrollpost #gocats
wasn't trolling, I collect wine
#fullmalolacticfermentation
#oak4life
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Capital Grille Generous Pour tonight....great time to hit CG.
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I hated oaky chards until I had butternut. Delicious.
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what type of rough ridin' chard do you bros prefer, oak or steel?
#teamUnoakedChard #seriousanswertotrollpost #gocats
wasn't trolling, I collect wine
#fullmalolacticfermentation
#oak4life
yeah. either you like it or you don't. not my taste. I'm not a huge fan of whites in general but if I'm going to drink them I prefer crisp, dry, steel-aged whites.
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what's your favorite wine (that you actually drink somewhat often, not that you have ever had)
mine:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.frogsleap.com%2Fhtml%2Fimages%2Fredbarn%2Fwines%2Flabels%2FCabernet-Sauvignon-label_72.jpg&hash=1d507bd870e7ffd7f80c3d7924734e75284c114a)
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theshowwines.com%2Fimage%2Fwines%2Fmalbec-only.png&hash=8d25a7b442dc0a0dfd1f1b76ad1ab4fab432a49f)
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what's your favorite wine (that you actually drink somewhat often, not that you have ever had)
cheap european. most anything low alcohol %, not fruity, not extracted, a little vinegary.
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what's your favorite wine (that you actually drink somewhat often, not that you have ever had)
cheap european. most anything low alcohol %, not fruity, not extracted, a little vinegary.
YT big bold red. some kind of blend, probably cab/merlot.
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Cain concept
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My membership shipment of Groth Reserve Cab Sauv should be coming in the next month! :excited:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.grothwines.com%2Fassets%2Fimages%2Fwines%2F%2Fpictures%2Freserve_CS.png&hash=7cc2538c0ea228efb5843e0d7e6a0ecdf6737896)
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Definitely picking up a bottle of wine to smash tonight after crushing weights at the gym. Recommendos? Needs to be red, under $15, and available at Tipsy's Liquor in Mission.
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My grandma bought me a case of Castle Rock Pinot Noir (2011) that is going down well. :dunno:
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My grandma bought me a case of Castle Rock Pinot Noir (2011) that is going down well. :dunno:
I've had that! Good & cheap
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hey do any of you winos know of quality vineyards in portugal, can be either port or regular
i want to hit some up for tours in october
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My grandma bought me a case of Castle Rock Pinot Noir (2011) that is going down well. :dunno:
Their Petite Syrah is really good, but I can't hardly ever find it.
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how many barrels does it take to get you drunk CNS!?
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Petite is right there in the name of it.
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hey do any of you winos know of quality vineyards in portugal, can be either port or regular
i want to hit some up for tours in october
all wine in portugal is good. great choice in choosing portugal, btw. very smart.
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hey do any of you winos know of quality vineyards in portugal, can be either port or regular
i want to hit some up for tours in october
all wine in portugal is good. great choice in choosing portugal, btw. very smart.
:thumbs:
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If I'm having some people over my go to party wines are the Kirkland Napa Valley Chard 1.5L from Costco for about $10 and Liberte Paso Robles Cab from Trader Joe's, also about $10. Pop the cab 30 to 60 minutes before your ready to drink it. Opens up really well.
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this is one of my favorites:
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If I'm having some people over my go to party wines are the Kirkland Napa Valley Chard 1.5L from Costco for about $10 and Liberte Paso Robles Cab from Trader Joe's, also about $10. Pop the cab 30 to 60 minutes before your ready to drink it. Opens up really well.
Yeah, no it doesn't.
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:billdance:
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wine drunk right now
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this is one of my favorite summer wines. had one friday (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.beringer.com%2Fassets%2Fthirdparty%2Fwines%2F%2Foriginals%2F2011-Beringer-Private-Reserve-Chardonnay-Napa-Valley%2520%281%29.png&hash=ec7ba4790bfbba5b852fe01f1194e5e76766a7b3)
good oak. full malolactic action going on.
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wine drunk right now
love wine drunk.. hate wine hangovers
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wine drunk right now
love wine drunk.. hate wine hangovers
Super hung over this morning
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Has anyone ever had any Hamel Family wines? Reviews?
http://store.hamelfamilywines.com/index.cfm?method=storeproducts.showlist&productcategoryid=cd30cc96-a5a5-e88c-dedd-0ee485b7e9d0
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housed a magnum of feliz noche cab last night, fantastic wine
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the owners of this winery are emaw. their wine is high dollar though so none of you will be able to try it.
http://www.futowines.com
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If I'm having some people over my go to party wines are the Kirkland Napa Valley Chard 1.5L from Costco for about $10 and Liberte Paso Robles Cab from Trader Joe's, also about $10. Pop the cab 30 to 60 minutes before your ready to drink it. Opens up really well.
Yeah, no it doesn't.
Yes it does.
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i wonder who is right
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everything grown in paso is too high in alcohol %. you could almost say everything in ca, but the central coast is especially bad about it.
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sys,
if you ever go to central oregon wine country, let me know. i have an "in" and will "hook you up". you seem to really like wine.
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everything grown in paso is too high in alcohol %. you could almost say everything in ca, but the central coast is especially bad about it.
what do you think of futo?
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everything grown in paso is too high in alcohol %. you could almost say everything in ca, but the central coast is especially bad about it.
good God what an ignorant statement
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I like Black Box wine.
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sys,
if you ever go to central oregon wine country, let me know. i have an "in" and will "hook you up". you seem to really like wine.
i've wanted to see the pacific northwest for a long time, and my wife has family up that way, so i'd like to at some point. i do like wine.
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THANKSGIVING YOU GUYS!!!!!
Thinking Zinfindel or Bearboat Pinot Noir. Maybe a Beaujolais Nouveau?
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the owners of this winery are emaw. their wine is high dollar though so none of you will be able to try it.
http://www.futowines.com
Futo is decent wine but didn't really do anything special for me to be honest. Sure it's high dollar, but that's not reflective of the quality of the wine as there are much better options for the price range out there.
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THANKSGIVING YOU GUYS!!!!!
Thinking Zinfindel or Bearboat Pinot Noir. Maybe a Beaujolais Nouveau?
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Yo, fellas, let's talk wine! :cheers: <---- (insert wine). So Ms. Wacky and I joined this two weeks ago: http://cellarandloft.com/ (Owned by Eddie Kennison and influenced by Vermeil). It's pretty awesome so far. It's right down in the river market. For like $32 a month they deliver 2 bottles of wine to you. It can change with beer selections too. With that cost, you get free wine, beer, and whiskey tastings on the weekend and 20% off everything in the store. They also have a really nice patio to chill on. I've noticed we've befriended a lot of ppl our age since joining. You can bring your own food or have what they cook there (generally pizza). It also puts you in the drawings monthly for a week stay in napa valley. Anyways, didn't know if any of you had heard of this or were members. It's pretty cool.
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Picked up a couple of bottles of this goodness last weekend. Straight from Tool's Maynard James Keenan's winery in Arizona.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fct-static.com%2Flabels%2F322214.jpg&hash=227e4eb45f2de6d624335b24c784b0da2162afdc)
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:drool:
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The label says New Mexico. Still HAF?
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The label says New Mexico. Still HAF?
Grapes are from NM, winery is in 'Zona. :Flipped off x2:
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The label says New Mexico. Still HAF?
Grapes are from NM, winery is in 'Zona. :Flipped off x2:
:lol:
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:lol:
Hey guys, pinot noir is my favorite.
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Yo, fellas, let's talk wine! :cheers: <---- (insert wine). So Ms. Wacky and I joined this two weeks ago: http://cellarandloft.com/ (Owned by Eddie Kennison and influenced by Vermeil). It's pretty awesome so far. It's right down in the river market. For like $32 a month they deliver 2 bottles of wine to you. It can change with beer selections too. With that cost, you get free wine, beer, and whiskey tastings on the weekend and 20% off everything in the store. They also have a really nice patio to chill on. I've noticed we've befriended a lot of ppl our age since joining. You can bring your own food or have what they cook there (generally pizza). It also puts you in the drawings monthly for a week stay in napa valley. Anyways, didn't know if any of you had heard of this or were members. It's pretty cool.
If I lived in KC I'd be all over something like this. As it stands now, I'll settle on 20% off on Tuesdays and Wednesdays at the Fridge :D
Also, with the weather warming up I tend to drink less wine and stick almost exclusively to beer.
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:lol:
Hey guys, pinot noir is my favorite.
Me too! :cheers: I like Willamette Valley, you?
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:lol:
Hey guys, pinot noir is my favorite.
Me too! :cheers: I like Willamette Valley, you?
Cupcake vineyards for right now. $10-12 bottle. I'm still learning tho. I was a merlot man before ms. wacky got me to try some different reds.
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Yo, fellas, let's talk wine! :cheers: <---- (insert wine). So Ms. Wacky and I joined this two weeks ago: http://cellarandloft.com/ (Owned by Eddie Kennison and influenced by Vermeil). It's pretty awesome so far. It's right down in the river market. For like $32 a month they deliver 2 bottles of wine to you. It can change with beer selections too. With that cost, you get free wine, beer, and whiskey tastings on the weekend and 20% off everything in the store. They also have a really nice patio to chill on. I've noticed we've befriended a lot of ppl our age since joining. You can bring your own food or have what they cook there (generally pizza). It also puts you in the drawings monthly for a week stay in napa valley. Anyways, didn't know if any of you had heard of this or were members. It's pretty cool.
If I lived in KC I'd be all over something like this. As it stands now, I'll settle on 20% off on Tuesdays and Wednesdays at the Fridge :D
Also, with the weather warming up I tend to drink less wine and stick almost exclusively to beer.
Ms. Wacky switches to whites in the summer time. Summer beer is my go to this time of year, but I like wine paired with my food.
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:lol:
Hey guys, pinot noir is my favorite.
Me too! :cheers: I like Willamette Valley, you?
Cupcake vineyards for right now. $10-12 bottle. I'm still learning tho. I was a merlot man before ms. wacky got me to try some different reds.
Mrs Emo used to bring home cheap California pinot's all the time and rarely was there one I didn't like.
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:lol:
Hey guys, pinot noir is my favorite.
Me too! :cheers: I like Willamette Valley, you?
Cupcake vineyards for right now. $10-12 bottle. I'm still learning tho. I was a merlot man before ms. wacky got me to try some different reds.
Mrs Emo used to bring home cheap California pinot's all the time and rarely was there one I didn't like.
:lick:
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If you ever see it, put it in your mouth:
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Big ole' fruit BOMB. Can you handle it? I don't know, I don't know.
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:eek:
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I think I would enjoy a fruit BOMB.
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:lol:
Hey guys, pinot noir is my favorite.
Me too! :cheers: I like Willamette Valley, you?
*true story alert- my brother in law is a willamette valley winery bigwig.
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:lol:
Hey guys, pinot noir is my favorite.
Me too! :cheers: I like Willamette Valley, you?
*true story alert- my brother in law is a willamette valley winery bigwig.
Tour available? I can trade for Sonoma tour.
Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk
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Wine... :Yuck:
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Wine... :Yuck:
Say it to its face, bro! :comeatme:
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:lol:
Hey guys, pinot noir is my favorite.
Me too! :cheers: I like Willamette Valley, you?
*true story alert- my brother in law is a willamette valley winery bigwig.
Tour available? I can trade for Sonoma tour.
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if you ever head out that way, let me know. I will vet you and hook you up if you check out.
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And if you guys ever make it to KC, let me know. We'll do cellar and loft. :cheers:
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Wine... :Yuck:
:cry:
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Wine... :Yuck:
:cry:
seven, how does it feel to disappoint your father?
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Wine... :Yuck:
:cry:
seven, how does it feel to disappoint your father?
Very used to it.
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Wine... :Yuck:
Take it to the Rum Thread...
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summer wine recipe guys.
Dry red
Orange soda
ice.
yum
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summer wine recipe guys.
Dry red
Orange soda
ice.
yum
Make sure to stipulate cheap, crappy dry red, otherwise it's a waste of good wine.
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Does anyone have a good sangria recipe?
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Does anyone have a good sangria recipe?
Call coco bolo's. :lick: Speaking of that, it's wednesday. :ksu:
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Does anyone have a good sangria recipe?
Call coco bolo's. :lick: Speaking of that, it's wednesday. :ksu:
:dubious: I live in Wichita.
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Does anyone have a good sangria recipe?
Call coco bolo's. :lick: Speaking of that, it's wednesday. :ksu:
:dubious: I live in Wichita.
:) You can buy that aussie wine- sangria that is really cheap and good at the same time. Put it on rocks and call it a day.
http://www.yellowtailwine.com/sangria/
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I buy pre made cheap ass sangria and then soak it with orange, peach, apple, brandy etc.
people say it is good.
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have had a bottle of KJ Vintner's Reserve this morning while cooking. Still my favorite wine pound for pound.
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Needs updating. I am going to try and talk my mom into corking some frogs leap tonight.
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recently found old episodes of the wine library tv. tv.winelibary.com (http://tv.winelibary.com) Gary Vanyerchuk is this brash new jersey wine store owner that makes watching wine reviews fun. I now know about tannin and mid pallets :sdeek:
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lets talk malolactic fermentation - I'm a fan
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I'm not some big wine expert, but if you get the chance pick up some of this stuff.
14 Hands Cab Sav
Good Stuff, very smooth.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com%2Flacrossetribune.com%2Fcontent%2Ftncms%2Fassets%2Fv3%2Feditorial%2F9%2Fcc%2F9ccbffdb-56b4-5ce2-ba18-a6a56ba0532e%2F518d1b1897d24.preview-620.jpg&hash=3adc339ba116af7630e6b945a8fc968e21f41ce6)
I've been drinking the 2012.
http://www.bevmo.com/Shop/ProductDetail.aspx/Wine/Cabernet-Sauvignon/Washington/14-Hands/14-Hands-Cabernet/33185
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14 Hands is the Cheryl Crow of the cab sauv world.
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Cabernet Sauvignon is one of the more complex and layered wines out there. It has higher tannins and a savory character often described as black pepper and tobacco. Because of Cab’s traits, look for foods high in fat and umami flavors for Cabernet Sauvignon food pairing.
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Try Cabernet Sauvignon with a charred gruyere burger, a mushroom pizza with tomato sauce or some marinated ribeye steak. To champion the fruit flavors in Cabernet Sauvignon, don’t pair it with chocolate. Instead, pair wine with braised short ribs or mushroom stroganoff. The powerful umami flavors overcome the savory quality of Cabernet Sauvignon leaving the berry flavors out in the open to shine.
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Researchers studying Cabernet Sauvignon in Canada discovered that wines made from vineyards infested with Asian ladybugs affect the flavor of the wine greatly. Ladybug taint occurs when ladybugs are inadvertedly added into the fermenting wines. :Yuck:
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Cabernet Sauvignon is actually a natural crossing of Cabernet Franc and Sauvignon Blanc that occured during in the 1600?s. Since then, it’s evolved to become what it is today. DNA testing at UC Davis discovered this relationship in 1996. :surprised:
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A 100% Cabernet Sauvignon from the Old World is rare because Old World winemakers are awesome at blending varietals together. That said, Cabernet Sauvignon from Bordeaux tastes more like the herbal/floral flavors of graphite, violets and tobacco than fruit. When you smell a Bordeaux, you’ll often get hints of black cherries and licorice along with the earthiness. Imagine you’ve filled a new leather bag with a pound of black cherries and held it to your chest while rolling down a hill. Yum. :lick:
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Oz Winery. My mom got me three different reds. :Yuck:
On one hand, it seems unfair to compare them against people who have been at it for a long time with far superior resources. On the other, they charge $20-25 per bottle.
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probably luked, but i saw a program on tv about napa wineries and 2012 is supposed to be a bomb ass year. like, best in a decade or something.
just an FYI :)
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probably luked, but i saw a program on tv about napa wineries and 2012 is supposed to be a bomb ass year. like, best in a decade or something.
just an FYI :)
Was it an infomercial for a wines of the month club? Kidding (sort of).
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No, it was a documentary of sorts following 3 wine makers of different operation size for a year from planting to harvest/bottling. Pretty interesting. All of them were very excited about the 2012 vintage after a 3-5 year "depression".
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seven firmly snuggled up in the pocket of Big Wine and he doesn't even know it.
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Not going to lie, I've been alternating between Sutter Home merlot and cab sauv and liking it just fine. :dunno:
Also, thanks to Bread for his wine expertise.
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No, it was a documentary of sorts following 3 wine makers of different operation size for a year from planting to harvest/bottling. Pretty interesting. All of them were very excited about the 2012 vintage after a 3-5 year "depression".
2012 was a near-ideal growing season, with a warm, dry spring fostering early budbreak and trouble-free flowering and grape set. consistently mild summer weather free of rain or unwelcome heat spikes allowed harvest of the grapes at just the right moment with a perfect balance of intense, concentrated fruit flavors and bright acidity.
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new favorite winery:
http://www.tressabores.com/
Julie Johnson and her husband started frogs leap. divorced now and she started this place not far from there. would have never known it was back there because there is no signage or anything near the main road. suggest anyone in the area give them a call and set up a visit.
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Drinking this last night and tonight. Know nothing of Spanish wine, but this is decent.
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That bottle looks tiny
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That bottle looks tiny
yeah and it's probably a magnum. #cnsgianthands
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It's actually a Nebuchadnezzar :sdeek:
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That bottle looks tiny
Or maybe CNS' hands are as disproportionately large as Mrs. Gooch's feet.
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That bottle looks tiny
Or maybe CNS' hands are as disproportionately large as Mrs. Gooch's feet.
Nope. Perfectly normal, thanks.
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i bet cns bites the cork and pulls it out with his teeth and then chugs the entire bottle, smashes it over his head and yells "moar! cnscasey need more wine! wine good! roaarrr!"
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I am a pretty mellow drinker, RD.
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i like that you're drinking european wines, cns. new world wine, :Yuck:
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That bottle looks tiny
Or maybe CNS' hands are as disproportionately large as Mrs. Gooch's feet.
Thanks for explaining the intricacies of my post to our slower posters on goEMAW.com
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I bet that old world Bordeaux paired nicely with the bread CNS made from an Englishman's bones
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:horrorsuprise:
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_FANw and I have started using this for wine: http://us.nakedwines.com/ (don't worry about the name, its completely SFW)
A cool concept, sort of crowdsourcing combined with wine marketing. We like the wines a lot, the interaction on the website with wine ratings and talking to wine makers is kind of cool, and you can get (IMO) good wines for good prices.
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this is a cool club too
https://www.lastbottlewines.com/pages/faq.html
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my brother in law makes his own wine and they are really good. he has good equipment, one brew or whatever nets him like 35 bottles of wine.
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Sys, waks let’s get this thread back on track.
I have a sub to del dotto wines and get a shipment every 3 months or so, it is a little pricey but free shipping and I really like the cave blend.
Other go to’s
Goru Verde—. Great jammy wine
Zolo Malbec— decent cheap Malbec
I think in manhattan the best values are Spanish/Portuguese Reds and Shiraz, but can also sometimes find deals on champagne as I don’t think many drink moet or bollinger and there are discounts if it isn’t during the holidays.
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Get a sub to empathy wines and thank me later. Their Rose is so good.
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i get almost all my wines from costco anymore. selection is a little skimpy, but it's a well curated offering. wish they had more old world selections here locally.
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i get almost all my wines from costco anymore. selection is a little skimpy, but it's a well curated offering. wish they had more old world selections here locally.
yeah, same. I'm infuriated with their current omaha selections. last week I emptied out a wine box of something to get one for my cart only to toss it aside after I didn't like any of what I was looking for. mrs dave's daily driver was the decoy cab they had for 2+ years but they don't have it recently only their "red". they still have caymus and prisoner for dinner/cocktail wines at ours. these are almost certainly n00b picks and I have no idea about "old world" stuff. I am a wine low/medium for sure.
BONUS: hyvee has a dependable and robust selection and if you buy 6 bottles you get 10% off your entire purchase and a lot of the time it'll make it equal to costco prices in my experience. the decoy cab for example was the same after they got me 10% back. also they'll run random bizarre specials on good bottles. I got a frogs leap cab 30% off the other day.
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i get almost all my wines from costco anymore. selection is a little skimpy, but it's a well curated offering. wish they had more old world selections here locally.
yeah, same. I'm infuriated with their current omaha selections. last week I emptied out a wine box of something to get one for my cart only to toss it aside after I didn't like any of what I was looking for. mrs dave's daily driver was the decoy cab they had for 2+ years but they don't have it recently only their "red". they still have caymus and prisoner for dinner/cocktail wines at ours. these are almost certainly n00b picks and I have no idea about "old world" stuff. I am a wine low/medium for sure.
BONUS: hyvee has a dependable and robust selection and if you buy 6 bottles you get 10% off your entire purchase and a lot of the time it'll make it equal to costco prices in my experience. the decoy cab for example was the same after they got me 10% back. also they'll run random bizarre specials on good bottles. I got a frogs leap cab 30% off the other day.
I like frogs leap if I feel flush.
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i get almost all my wines from costco anymore. selection is a little skimpy, but it's a well curated offering. wish they had more old world selections here locally.
yeah, same. I'm infuriated with their current omaha selections. last week I emptied out a wine box of something to get one for my cart only to toss it aside after I didn't like any of what I was looking for. mrs dave's daily driver was the decoy cab they had for 2+ years but they don't have it recently only their "red". they still have caymus and prisoner for dinner/cocktail wines at ours. these are almost certainly n00b picks and I have no idea about "old world" stuff. I am a wine low/medium for sure.
BONUS: hyvee has a dependable and robust selection and if you buy 6 bottles you get 10% off your entire purchase and a lot of the time it'll make it equal to costco prices in my experience. the decoy cab for example was the same after they got me 10% back. also they'll run random bizarre specials on good bottles. I got a frogs leap cab 30% off the other day.
I like frogs leap if I feel flush.
I have a bottle of this (not expensive) I've been "cellaring" (sitting in my basement) since we went there and mrs. dave got all hornt about their "sustainable" whatever and the winemaker personally showed us around the entire time and told us about her grand plans to have a farm to table something or whatever and it was a really small personally touch type deal. she kept picking like tomatos off vines and making me chomp into them. I'm tryna' get blackout on wine over here people! my most positive napa valley experience for sure. anyway, she was the divorcee of the frogs leap winemaker (fairly recently when we were there iirc). She told us at the end about it and that they were 50/50 on that but her tiny leavings of incredibly expensive property left me skeptical. Anyway, anyone going to Napa for sure go to Tres Sabores. It was a 10/10 Napa experience which is like a 7/10 Sonoma Russian River experience but STILL GOOD.
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Way off, 2010 bottle. prolly there in 2013/2014 so basically nailed it in my brain.
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I’d drink that soon.
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i get almost all my wines from costco anymore. selection is a little skimpy, but it's a well curated offering. wish they had more old world selections here locally.
I haven’t been to Costco in over a year, but I felt like the selection of French wines got considerably shittier over the years.
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You cannot buy wine at Costco in New York, it's the most absurd thing ever.
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I’d drink that soon.
At this point it’s just a momento. But may crack it open to see if it’s still worth a crap anyway.
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This is her! She irl rules.
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I haven’t been to Costco in over a year, but I felt like the selection of French wines got considerably shittier over the years.
varies hugely from one store to the next.
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Wine, I love the taste of dry reds but man does it give me a headache the next day.
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Way off, 2010 bottle. prolly there in 2013/2014 so basically nailed it in my brain.
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Still good AF. Slugged it tonight with the people we went out there with.
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Just finished a stint in Napa so I know quite a bit about wine AMA
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Just finished a stint in Napa so I know quite a bit about wine AMA
Well where did you go
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See travel thread kk
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Just finished a stint in Napa so I know quite a bit about wine AMA
What varietal is your favorite now? What pairs best with a nice white fish?
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I'm seeing unconfirmed reports of some Mod Abuse that allegedly occurred in this thread last night. I am currently trying to confirm.
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Oof. No thank you to wine. Now and forever.
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You cannot buy wine at Costco in New York, it's the most absurd thing ever.
New York and Kansas, two peas in a pod.
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god bless this research.
https://twitter.com/d_feldman/status/1779194821812367363
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Oh that's excellent.
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I can see that, definitely a few engineering epiphanies a couple drinks in have happened.
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This has been known to billiard and dart players for generations.
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This has been known to billiard and dart players for generations.
Also, certain message board posters.
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This has been known to billiard and dart players for generations.
Also, certain message board posters.
Poker, slow pitch softball, backing babes, the list is basically endless.
Someone needs to produce and market a “slight booze buzz” pill
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It's called a Bud lite pounder
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This has been known to billiard and dart players for generations.
Also, certain message board posters.
Poker, slow pitch softball, backing babes, the list is basically endless.
Someone needs to produce and market a “slight booze buzz” pill
Like a Rohypnol Lite?
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This has been known to billiard and dart players for generations.
Also, certain message board posters.
Poker, slow pitch softball, backing babes, the list is basically endless.
Someone needs to produce and market a “slight booze buzz” pill
Has the opposite impact on kickball players
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This has been known to billiard and dart players for generations.
Also, certain message board posters.
Poker, slow pitch softball, backing babes, the list is basically endless.
Someone needs to produce and market a “slight booze buzz” pill
Has the opposite impact on kickball players
Those guys hit their 3rd beer before the first inning is over.