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Title: GTFO Illegals
Post by: EMAWmeister on August 04, 2010, 01:40:00 AM
Cross the North Korean border illegally you get 12 years hard labor.
If you cross the Iranian border illegally you are detained indefinitely.
If you cross the Afghan border illegally, you get shot.
If you cross the Saudi Arabian border illegally you will be jailed.
If you cross the Chinese border illegally you may never be heard from again.
If you cross the Venezuelan border illegally you will be branded a spy and your fate will be sealed.
If you cross the Mexican border illegally you will be jailed for two years.
If you cross the Cuban border illegally you will be thrown into political prison to rot.

If you cross the United States border illegally you get:
1 - A job
2 - A driver's license
3 - A Social Security card
4 - Welfare
5 - Food stamps
6 - Credit cards
7 - Subsidized rent or a loan to buy a house
8 - Free education
9 - Free health care
10 - A lobbyist in Washington
11 - Billions of dollars in public documents printed in your language
12 - Millions of servicemen and women who are willing to – and do – die for your right to the ways and means of our constitution
13 - And the right to carry the flag of your country - the one you walked out on – while you call America racist and protest that you don't get enough respect.
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: pike on August 04, 2010, 02:15:04 AM
Couldn't agree more. eff illegals.

 The best solution is to just build a rough ridin' wall on the border. Really wouldn't be that hard...how many billions or even trillions have we wasted on this useless war overseas? Quite a bit, that's how much. I bet a good sized wall could be erected (lol) for only tens of millions...which is nothing relative to what we've been spending in the last decade. And a big wall would you know...keep everyone out. Not that hard.
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: pike on August 04, 2010, 02:20:40 AM
"But you must be RACIST!! NOT TO LET ILLEGALS IN THE COUNTRY!"

No not really, i just want to preserve jobs for Americans that need them, you know like 10% of people don't have one.

"But, but...the illegals take all the jobs that Americans don't want!!"

Ok dumbshit, there's enough desperate blue collar people and poor people that they would work for just about anything, including picking heads of lettuce and grapes and tomatoes etc...
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: jtksu on August 04, 2010, 02:55:07 AM
eff it.  This thread will be branded as racist anyway, so I might as well chime in.   Everyone is welcome in this country.  All races, sexes, creeds, etc.  We are a melting pot and that is what is so great about America.  It's the best of everything.  That said.  Come here legally.  Through the proper channels.  When you do that, I will say:  "Welcome to America.  I'm happy to have you here."  If you come here illegally, don't expect the same warm reception.  You will be afforded the same exact rights as every other US citizen when you become a citizen.  If you come here and live off of other citizen's goodwill, you can expect those citizens to eventually feel that you have worn out your welcome.  Feel free to opcat the crap out of me, but I'm far from racist. 
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: Dirty Sanchez on August 04, 2010, 06:19:14 AM
shazbot! it.  This thread will be branded as racist anyway, so I might as well chime in.   Everyone is welcome in this country.  All races, sexes, creeds, etc.  We are a melting pot and that is what is so great about America.  It's the best of everything.  That said.  Come here legally.  Through the proper channels.  When you do that, I will say:  "Welcome to America.  I'm happy to have you here."  If you come here illegally, don't expect the same warm reception.  You will be afforded the same exact rights as every other US citizen when you become a citizen.  If you come here and live off of other citizen's goodwill, you can expect those citizens to eventually feel that you have worn out your welcome.  Feel free to opcat the crap out of me, but I'm far from racist. 

I have a feeling even the resident statists are somewhat split on this one, considering ~75% of the US supports Arizona iirc.
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: Trim on August 04, 2010, 06:49:52 AM
eff it.  This thread will be branded as racist anyway, so I might as well chime in.   Everyone is welcome in this country.  All races, sexes, creeds, etc.  We are a melting pot and that is what is so great about America.  It's the best of everything.  That said.  Come here legally.  Through the proper channels.  When you do that, I will say:  "Welcome to America.  I'm happy to have you here."  If you come here illegally, don't expect the same warm reception.  You will be afforded the same exact rights as every other US citizen when you become a citizen.  If you come here and live off of other citizen's goodwill, you can expect those citizens to eventually feel that you have worn out your welcome.  Feel free to opcat the crap out of me, but I'm far from racist. 

What's your position on eggplants, you piece of crap?
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: Kat Kid on August 04, 2010, 07:16:39 AM
Or less expensively we could drastically increase our legal immigration at all levels; it is backward, arduous and insane, (such as kicking out PhDs form overseas as soon as they graduate from our subsidized University system).
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: michigancat on August 04, 2010, 07:27:27 AM
Cross the North Korean border illegally you get 12 years hard labor.
If you cross the Iranian border illegally you are detained indefinitely.
If you cross the Afghan border illegally, you get shot.
If you cross the Saudi Arabian border illegally you will be jailed.
If you cross the Chinese border illegally you may never be heard from again.
If you cross the Venezuelan border illegally you will be branded a spy and your fate will be sealed.
If you cross the Mexican border illegally you will be jailed for two years.
If you cross the Cuban border illegally you will be thrown into political prison to rot.

If you cross the United States border illegally you get:
1 - A job
2 - A driver's license
3 - A Social Security card
4 - Welfare
5 - Food stamps
6 - Credit cards
7 - Subsidized rent or a loan to buy a house
8 - Free education
9 - Free health care
10 - A lobbyist in Washington
11 - Billions of dollars in public documents printed in your language
12 - Millions of servicemen and women who are willing to – and do – die for your right to the ways and means of our constitution
13 - And the right to carry the flag of your country - the one you walked out on – while you call America racist and protest that you don't get enough respect.

Great point.  We should strive to be more like Iran, North Korea, and Afghanistan
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: Jeffy on August 04, 2010, 08:45:43 AM
Cross the North Korean border illegally you get 12 years hard labor.
If you cross the Iranian border illegally you are detained indefinitely.
If you cross the Afghan border illegally, you get shot.
If you cross the Saudi Arabian border illegally you will be jailed.
If you cross the Chinese border illegally you may never be heard from again.
If you cross the Venezuelan border illegally you will be branded a spy and your fate will be sealed.
If you cross the Mexican border illegally you will be jailed for two years.
If you cross the Cuban border illegally you will be thrown into political prison to rot.

If you cross the United States border illegally you get:
1 - A job
2 - A driver's license
3 - A Social Security card
4 - Welfare
5 - Food stamps
6 - Credit cards
7 - Subsidized rent or a loan to buy a house
8 - Free education
9 - Free health care
10 - A lobbyist in Washington
11 - Billions of dollars in public documents printed in your language
12 - Millions of servicemen and women who are willing to – and do – die for your right to the ways and means of our constitution
13 - And the right to carry the flag of your country - the one you walked out on – while you call America racist and protest that you don't get enough respect.

Great point.  We should strive to be more like Iran, North Korea, and Afghanistan

Good grief!  Isn't Venezuela and Cuba good enough for you?
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 04, 2010, 09:07:32 AM
The simple fact remains, we can't continue to have unfettered out of control "immigration" into this country where other countries simply offload their poor on to us. 

You can't have a border that's teaming with all matter of criminal element that's in bed with the Spaghetti Monster only knows . . . that's left pretty much unprotected. 

But our "leaders" in Washington, rather than sitting down and hashing out REAL immigration reform, are throwing about blanket moves that ultimately don't resolve any of the problems that arise out of this issue. 
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: chum1 on August 04, 2010, 09:27:48 AM
I don't want some dirty, disgusting, lowlife white trash meth-head high school dropout changing my sheets or washing my dishes.  Give me some people who actually take a risk and a lot of initiative to better themselves and their families. 
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: jmlynch1 on August 04, 2010, 09:43:57 AM
Or less expensively we could drastically increase our legal immigration at all levels; it is backward, arduous and insane, (such as kicking out PhDs form overseas as soon as they graduate from our subsidized University system).
Brain Drain :pbj:
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: Kat Kid on August 04, 2010, 10:36:17 AM
Or less expensively we could drastically increase our legal immigration at all levels; it is backward, arduous and insane, (such as kicking out PhDs form overseas as soon as they graduate from our subsidized University system).
Brain Drain :pbj:

We need smart people.
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 04, 2010, 10:39:10 AM
That's just it . . . how do we determine who really wants to make a better life and who wants to live off the teat?

Is there like a detector system we can put in place that will tell us that . . . maybe DHS can target their Biometric systems towards that instead of trying to keep the sheeple that are already in the country under their thumb.

Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: Saulbadguy on August 04, 2010, 10:42:27 AM
That's just it . . . how do we determine who really wants to make a better life and who wants to live off the teat?

Who cares?  There will always be a portion of the population who are too sick/stupid/lazy to work.  Whether they are legal/illegal make no difference to me.
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: EMAWmeister on August 04, 2010, 10:42:57 AM
I don't want some dirty, disgusting, lowlife white trash meth-head high school dropout changing my sheets or washing my dishes.  Give me some people who actually take a risk and a lot of initiative to better themselves and their families. 

Then don't live in Missouri or Arkansas.  Simple as that.
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: hemmy on August 04, 2010, 01:34:02 PM
I always lol @ the people who say Mexicans work harder than Americans in physical labor jobs, based on my time in construction.
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: sys on August 04, 2010, 02:03:51 PM
the list of what they do to illegals in other countries is wrong.  in mexico, at least, they don't do anything.   :gocho:


i'd guess there are wild inaccuracies amongst the other countries too.
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on August 04, 2010, 02:21:01 PM
the list of what they do to illegals in other countries is wrong.  in mexico, at least, they don't do anything.   :gocho:


i'd guess there are wild inaccuracies amongst the other countries too.

No jail for illegals in Mexico, they beat the Guatemalans then send them back.
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: sys on August 04, 2010, 03:19:21 PM

No jail for illegals in Mexico, they beat the Guatemalans then send them back.

the great thing about law enforcement in mexico is that it's wildly random and usually negotiable.
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: Tannoudji on August 04, 2010, 03:24:26 PM
I say we treat them as the invading horde that they are.  What we do if the Russians started streaming into Alaska?
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: Pete on August 04, 2010, 04:25:35 PM
I say we treat them as the invading horde that they are.  What we do if the Russians started streaming into Alaska?

Nailed it.  It's not even an "analogy" because it's the exact rough ridin' thing.  Amiright?
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: DQ12 on August 04, 2010, 05:21:23 PM
All I know is that if I was a desperate Mexican, I would so want to get into America.
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on August 04, 2010, 05:40:39 PM
All I know is that if I was a desperate Mexican, I would so want to get into America.

Water is wet.
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: skycat on August 04, 2010, 08:23:29 PM
All I know is that if I was a desperate Mexican, I would so want to get into America.

Water is wet.

Couldn't resist a wetback comment, huh?  :opcat:
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on August 04, 2010, 08:54:51 PM
All I know is that if I was a desperate Mexican, I would so want to get into America.

Water is wet.

Couldn't resist a wetback comment, huh?  :opcat:

Ha, I didn't catch that.  :)
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: MakeItRain on August 06, 2010, 04:43:23 AM
Or less expensively we could drastically increase our legal immigration at all levels; it is backward, arduous and insane, (such as kicking out PhDs form overseas as soon as they graduate from our subsidized University system).

That's just it most of these myopic idiots have no idea about the process of becoming "legal."  The best man in my wedding is nothing like the Mexican Monster all those people want to talk about.  He's British, White, reasonably rich, and educated.  He's been trying to move here for 7 years and has found it nearly imposible.  Once we drove from Maine to Michigan, drove through Ontario.  When we crossed back into Michigan he was detained for 3 hours, they ask the rough ridin' guy if he ever did business in Libya for fucks sake.  He was here on a 4 month work visa we worked at a damn summer camp and he was detained at the border. 

I love the "just come over legal" crowd 99.9999% have no goddamn clue.  Talk first seek knowledge when you get around to it.
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: Dirty Sanchez on August 06, 2010, 05:16:49 AM
Or less expensively we could drastically increase our legal immigration at all levels; it is backward, arduous and insane, (such as kicking out PhDs form overseas as soon as they graduate from our subsidized University system).

That's just it most of these myopic idiots have no idea about the process of becoming "legal."  The best man in my wedding is nothing like the Mexican Monster all those people want to talk about.  He's British, White, reasonably rich, and educated.  He's been trying to move here for 7 years and has found it nearly imposible.  Once we drove from Maine to Michigan, drove through Ontario.  When we crossed back into Michigan he was detained for 3 hours, they ask the fracking guy if he ever did business in Libya for fracks sake.  He was here on a 4 month work visa we worked at a damn summer camp and he was detained at the border. 

I love the "just come over legal" crowd 99.9999% have no goddamn clue.  Talk first seek knowledge when you get around to it.

While it is true that the legal system needs to be made much simpler, illegal is illegal.  For every story like that, you could find several legal immigrants that worked their way through the system and are pissed at the shortcutters getting away with it.
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: jtksu on August 06, 2010, 02:13:03 PM
Dude is right.  We should just let everyone come and go as they please.  No way could that ever turn out bad. 
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: MakeItRain on August 06, 2010, 04:30:04 PM
Dude is right.  We should just let everyone come and go as they please.  No way could that ever turn out bad. 

Who said that?  Who hinted at that? 

Seriously I may disagree with the the robo-righties on here but damn at least most of them have the mental capability to carry a discussion.  Who don't even know what is going on, you are just chiming in whit bullshit that has no relevance to anything.  I have read two threads and you've done it in both.  You are way out of your comfort zone here.  Go back to the combo fans board and call people eggplants, you seem good at that.
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: sys on August 06, 2010, 05:21:24 PM
Dude is right.  We should just let everyone come and go as they please.  No way could that ever turn out bad. 

Who said that?  Who hinted at that?

haven't said it, but it's correct.  worked for thousands of years.  open borders, restrictions on employment.
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: MakeItRain on August 07, 2010, 01:59:09 AM
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/06/21/new.york.obama.letter.immigration/?iref=obinsite (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/06/21/new.york.obama.letter.immigration/?iref=obinsite)
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: skycat on August 07, 2010, 04:10:10 AM
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/06/21/new.york.obama.letter.immigration/?iref=obinsite (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/06/21/new.york.obama.letter.immigration/?iref=obinsite)

Heartwrenching story that could have been much worse. I'm shocked by all the pro-deportation comments below the story. rough ridin' heartless.
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: Dirty Sanchez on August 07, 2010, 08:32:34 AM
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/06/21/new.york.obama.letter.immigration/?iref=obinsite (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/06/21/new.york.obama.letter.immigration/?iref=obinsite)

Heartwrenching story that could have been much worse. I'm shocked by all the pro-deportation comments below the story. fracking heartless.

I know this guy is from a different country, but isn't it more heartless to have people who's wives and daughters are held as sex slaves while they work of the debt to cross a desert in 100+ degree heat only to have to work for near slave wages and rent a bed for a few hours before the next guy comes in and wants to rent it when you go back to work?

Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: MakeItRain on August 08, 2010, 12:15:14 AM


Heartwrenching story that could have been much worse. I'm shocked by all the pro-deportation comments below the story. fracking heartless.
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I know this guy is from a different country, but isn't it more heartless to have people who's wives and daughters are held as sex slaves while they work of the debt to cross a desert in 100+ degree heat only to have to work for near slave wages and rent a bed for a few hours before the next guy comes in and wants to rent it when you go back to work?



wut
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: jtksu on August 08, 2010, 02:08:09 AM
Bet MIR is employed by a city/county/state.
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: MakeItRain on August 08, 2010, 02:32:53 AM
Bet MIR is employed by a city/county/state.

nope and never have been if we aren't counting working for the Rec years ago, try again $!#*
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: Dirty Sanchez on August 08, 2010, 08:31:35 AM
I believe the correct term is "gentleman of leisure"
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: Jeffy on August 08, 2010, 08:44:08 AM
More than likely MIR is unemployed, sucking off the taxpayer teet.
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: MakeItRain on August 08, 2010, 11:42:58 AM
More than likely MIR is unemployed, sucking off the taxpayer teet.

I'm unemployed because I'm black :dunno:
 :surprised:
 :opcat:

You're right though, I'm on social security, I have a vision card, WIC, and pulling a welfare check.  BALLER!!!  :AA:
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: Jeffy on August 08, 2010, 05:05:56 PM
More than likely MIR is unemployed, sucking off the taxpayer teet.

I'm unemployed because I'm black :dunno:
 :surprised:
 :opcat:

You're right though, I'm on social security, I have a vision card, WIC, and pulling a welfare check.  BALLER!!!  :AA:

Unemployed cuz you're a whining idiot.  That has nothing to do with you being black, green, yellow, red, or purple. 

I think you need to rewatch the last statement in this clip from the press conference.

http://www.youtube.com/v/GizNwzKo3n8&hl=en_US&fs=1?rel=0
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: mjrod on August 10, 2010, 05:03:06 PM
Hi.

 :adios:
Title: Re: GTFO Illegals
Post by: jtksu on August 10, 2010, 05:48:56 PM
GTFO, MjRod!!