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oregon series is off
maybe distance was a factor kinda like with their recruiting targets
http://www2.registerguard.com/cms/index.php/duck-football/comments/three-future-games-including-the-ksu-series-are-off/
if this is old feel free to make fun of me relentlessly
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no, i hadn't heard it. thanks for posting.
not a surprise
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It’s believed Kansas State will instead face Eastern Kentucky to open the 2011 season.
Not a huge surprise, but this is the first I've heard of it.
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Sweet. Wonder how much that cost us.
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Only okay if Miami stays on the schedule.
As I've always said, in the era of 4 non conference games, there's simply no excuse for not playing at least one BCS non conference opponent every year.
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Only okay if Miami stays on the schedule.
As I've always said, in the era of 4 non conference games, there's simply no excuse for not playing at least one BCS non conference opponent every year.
I think we'll be down to 3 non-cons next year or the one after.
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Only okay if Miami stays on the schedule.
As I've always said, in the era of 4 non conference games, there's simply no excuse for not playing at least one BCS non conference opponent every year.
I think we'll be down to 3 non-cons next year or the one after.
Yep, you're right, so it's absolutely going to be 3 cupcakes. I am almost of the belief that Snyder recruits they way he does on purpose in order to have the built in excuse to schedule cupcakes.
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I love this news.
The way to win at KSU is to go to bowl games as frequently as possible...demonstrate some "success." We have very little else to advertise.
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No cost to either party for the cancellation. Necessary after the switch to 9 conf games
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No cost to either party for the cancellation. Necessary after the switch to 9 conf games
thanks cc, great news
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:surprised:
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Awesome.
:driving:
It's still on the SID schedule though? :dunno:
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I think we all knew this was going to happen once OB was reintroduced as the coach. Sucks, that would have been a fun roadie.
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With us having to play all the conference teams starting next year, you'd be stupid to not schedule 3 cupcakes. The conference season is going to be brutal.
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That game was 97 percent of the reason I moved to Oregon. :bang:
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With us having to play all the conference teams starting next year, you'd be stupid to not schedule 3 cupcakes. The conference season is going to be brutal.
Bingo. Those who want "marquee" games in the non-con are selfish....it's not what's best for the program. OB is dead on with THIS strategy.
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Only okay if Miami stays on the schedule.
As I've always said, in the era of 4 non conference games, there's simply no excuse for not playing at least one BCS non conference opponent every year.
I think we'll be down to 3 non-cons next year or the one after.
I miss going bowling :embarrassed:
Three cupcakes, the fourth non-con game can be against a BCS team in a bowl game.
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With us having to play all the conference teams starting next year, you'd be stupid to not schedule 3 cupcakes. The conference season is going to be brutal.
Bingo. Those who want "marquee" games in the non-con are selfish....it's not what's best for the program. OB is dead on with THIS strategy.
Most of the FBS lies in the huge gap between Oregon and FCS Eastern Kentucky. Replacing a top 25 program with a FCS school is the ultimate pussery.
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With us having to play all the conference teams starting next year, you'd be stupid to not schedule 3 cupcakes. The conference season is going to be brutal.
Bingo. Those who want "marquee" games in the non-con are selfish....it's not what's best for the program. OB is dead on with THIS strategy.
Most of the FBS lies in the huge gap between Oregon and FCS Eastern Kentucky. Replacing a top 25 program with a FCS school is the ultimate pussery.
Like Lafayette? Let's play cupcakes early in the season, buy three wins, and go into conference play healthy and undefeated.
A good (or even decent) OOC is only necessary if you foresee yourself in the national title hunt, and even then, it's not the be all end all.
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snyder blowz
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With us having to play all the conference teams starting next year, you'd be stupid to not schedule 3 cupcakes. The conference season is going to be brutal.
Bingo. Those who want "marquee" games in the non-con are selfish....it's not what's best for the program. OB is dead on with THIS strategy.
Most of the FBS lies in the huge gap between Oregon and FCS Eastern Kentucky. Replacing a top 25 program with a FCS school is the ultimate pussery.
Like Lafayette? Let's play cupcakes early in the season, buy three wins, and go into conference play healthy and undefeated.
A good (or even decent) OOC is only necessary if you foresee yourself in the national title hunt, and even then, it's not the be all end all.
Yeah like Lafayette dumbass, was my point not clear? So a loss to those coon asses means that we should schedule the shittiest teams in the nation on a yearly basis. Get rough ridin' better and don't rough ridin' play FCS schools.
How in the eff will any BCS team make bowl games if they have to schedule teams from the Ohio Valley to do it? Do you really think a team who can't beat a damn team nicknamed ULA-La will win enough conference games to make a bowl. Log off and don't come back until you've paid for some common sense.
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With us having to play all the conference teams starting next year, you'd be stupid to not schedule 3 cupcakes. The conference season is going to be brutal.
Bingo. Those who want "marquee" games in the non-con are selfish....it's not what's best for the program. OB is dead on with THIS strategy.
Most of the FBS lies in the huge gap between Oregon and FCS Eastern Kentucky. Replacing a top 25 program with a FCS school is the ultimate pussery.
Like Lafayette? Let's play cupcakes early in the season, buy three wins, and go into conference play healthy and undefeated.
A good (or even decent) OOC is only necessary if you foresee yourself in the national title hunt, and even then, it's not the be all end all.
Unfortunately this is true. If you're playing hard OOC games (particularly roadies) you're just asking to stay home for the holidays.
If you stay home for the holidays you lose like 6 weeks of practice time where a moron like SLamur could learn the offense, thus we don't have to rely on wuss pipes Coffman. Once you get good, then you can schedule a hard OOC games.
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With us having to play all the conference teams starting next year, you'd be stupid to not schedule 3 cupcakes. The conference season is going to be brutal.
Bingo. Those who want "marquee" games in the non-con are selfish....it's not what's best for the program. OB is dead on with THIS strategy.
Most of the FBS lies in the huge gap between Oregon and FCS Eastern Kentucky. Replacing a top 25 program with a FCS school is the ultimate pussery.
Like Lafayette? Let's play cupcakes early in the season, buy three wins, and go into conference play healthy and undefeated.
A good (or even decent) OOC is only necessary if you foresee yourself in the national title hunt, and even then, it's not the be all end all.
Unfortunately this is true. If you're playing hard OOC games (particularly roadies) you're just asking to stay home for the holidays.
Dumbass, you have to play non-conference road games if you play any FBS school. Do you think there have been Sun Belt road games the last two seasons for shits and giggles?
If you stay home for the holidays you lose like 6 weeks of practice time where a moron like SLamur could learn the offense, thus we don't have to rely on wuss pipes Coffman. Once you get good, then you can schedule a hard OOC games.
Not that I didn't already know this about you but :opcat:
Why assume he is dumb? I'm going to go with he simply sucks. He didn't start at a shitty juco.
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If K-State can't handle playing 1 BCS team in the non conference every year, than lets just drop football and call it a day.
BSFS would make an excellent outdoor track venue . . . heck they could tear a bunch of down and then covert it to like 10,000 seat baseball stadium. Maybe start up a soccer and/or a Lacrosse program.
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Lots of haters in this thread.
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Lots of haters sheep in this thread.
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with crap non con and playing thursday nights it looks like this guy won't have to be bothered by watching crap football on Saturdays for the next few years :gocho:
more time for EPL, La Liga, Seria A, & Bundesliga :excited:
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with crap non con and playing thursday nights it looks like this guy won't have to be bothered by watching crap football on Saturdays for the next few years :gocho:
more time for EPL, La Liga, Seria A, & Bundesliga :excited:
:pbj:
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MIR is taking dumb-dumb pills on this one. If there is only one thing you take away from the DOD, it's that not only the fact that you can win at a high level scheduling cupcakes in the non-con, but rather that it's a necessary condition to sustain the level of perceived performance that assists in recruiting and fan interest in the post season.
Who gives a crap if your drive from Mound City is less enjoyable when you go watch the Cats play Directional U.? Skip the crap non-con games and save your dollars for a bowl trip.
Arguing that KSU is better off scheduling a difficult non-con is speculative, at best. Arguing that KSU is better off scheduling a weak non-con is based on proven history and rationale expectations for our future.
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MIR is taking dumb-dumb pills on this one. If there is only one thing you take away from the DOD, it's that not only the fact that you can win at a high level scheduling cupcakes in the non-con, but rather that it's a necessary condition to sustain the level of perceived performance that assists in recruiting and fan interest in the post season.
Who gives a crap if your drive from Mound City is less enjoyable when you go watch the Cats play Directional U.? Skip the crap non-con games and save your dollars for a bowl trip.
Arguing that KSU is better off scheduling a difficult non-con is speculative, at best. Arguing that KSU is better off scheduling a weak non-con is based on proven history and rationale expectations for our future.
:lol:
People forget that starting next year, we're playing OU, UT, OSU, ATM, Tech, and Baylor every year. Starting the season 3-0 against crap schools is the ONLY way we're making bowl games, because then all we've got to do is manage 3 wins against ku, isu, and bu.
Even assuming that OB coaches them up again and we're playing at a high level, our perceived strength of schedule won't hurt because of 3 crap schools when we're playing OU and UT.
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No crap, our conference schedule is going to be nuts....we'll have plenty of "marquee" home games every year with this conference schedule.
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I wonder how they are going to handle OU and UT scheduling....they have the ability to make sure that no one has to play both of them on the road in the same year. I wonder if they'll do that?
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Bryce's debut will be incredible.
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MIR is taking dumb-dumb pills on this one. If there is only one thing you take away from the DOD, it's that not only the fact that you can win at a high level scheduling cupcakes in the non-con, but rather that it's a necessary condition to sustain the level of perceived performance that assists in recruiting and fan interest in the post season.
Who gives a crap if your drive from Mound City is less enjoyable when you go watch the Cats play Directional U.? Skip the crap non-con games and save your dollars for a bowl trip.
Arguing that KSU is better off scheduling a difficult non-con is speculative, at best. Arguing that KSU is better off scheduling a weak non-con is based on proven history and rationale expectations for our future.
QFT
In my mind, Mangino's work at KU proved the superiority of the cupcake OOC once and for all. As a fan, I wish we could have 1 big non con a year but it is hard to argue with the DoD and YoD.
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Still would like to see a BCS name show up on the OOC now and again . . . it won't hurt a thing.
But I do agree that us playing Oregon and Miami in the same year was probably pretty dumb scheduling.
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MIR is taking dumb-dumb pills on this one. If there is only one thing you take away from the DOD, it's that not only the fact that you can win at a high level scheduling cupcakes in the non-con, but rather that it's a necessary condition to sustain the level of perceived performance that assists in recruiting and fan interest in the post season.
Who gives a crap if your drive from Mound City is less enjoyable when you go watch the Cats play Directional U.? Skip the crap non-con games and save your dollars for a bowl trip.
Arguing that KSU is better off scheduling a difficult non-con is speculative, at best. Arguing that KSU is better off scheduling a weak non-con is based on proven history and rationale expectations for our future.
QFT
In my mind, Mangino's work at KU proved the superiority of the cupcake OOC once and for all. As a fan, I wish we could have 1 big non con a year but it is hard to argue with the DoD and YoD.
just let the 1 big non con a year happen at the bowl game
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I'm not sure if Snyder is a genius or if the people who don't understand his scheduling are just very Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)? :users:
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Didn't they do away with Strength of Schedule factor in the BCS rankings? So what does it matter, other than for fans wanting to see a big name, if we beat up 3 cupcakes? Would much prefer 3-0 start against crap Scum U. over 2-1 start and being able to say, "Yeah but at least that loss was against Oregon."
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Didn't they do away with Strength of Schedule factor in the BCS rankings? So what does it matter, other than for fans wanting to see a big name, if we beat up 3 cupcakes? Would much prefer 3-0 start against crap Scum U. over 2-1 start and being able to say, "Yeah but at least that loss was against Oregon."
lol at us worrying about BCS rankings to begin with
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Didn't they do away with Strength of Schedule factor in the BCS rankings? So what does it matter, other than for fans wanting to see a big name, if we beat up 3 cupcakes? Would much prefer 3-0 start against crap Scum U. over 2-1 start and being able to say, "Yeah but at least that loss was against Oregon."
lol at us worrying about BCS rankings to begin with
+1
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Didn't they do away with Strength of Schedule factor in the BCS rankings? So what does it matter, other than for fans wanting to see a big name, if we beat up 3 cupcakes? Would much prefer 3-0 start against crap Scum U. over 2-1 start and being able to say, "Yeah but at least that loss was against Oregon."
lol at us worrying about BCS rankings to begin with
almost as humorous as people thinking 6 win bowl seasons can be used as a recruiting tool and 2 weeks of extra practice time can turn crap into shinola.
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Didn't they do away with Strength of Schedule factor in the BCS rankings? So what does it matter, other than for fans wanting to see a big name, if we beat up 3 cupcakes? Would much prefer 3-0 start against crap Scum U. over 2-1 start and being able to say, "Yeah but at least that loss was against Oregon."
lol at us worrying about BCS rankings to begin with
almost as humorous as people thinking 6 win bowl seasons can be used as a recruiting tool and 2 weeks of extra practice time can turn crap into shinola.
:curse:
It DOES help recruiting. Look, when you say "we have been to a bowl every year for X years in a row," it is much more compelling than saying "hey, we went to a bowl a couple years back, but we play a super tough non-con schedule."
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Didn't they do away with Strength of Schedule factor in the BCS rankings? So what does it matter, other than for fans wanting to see a big name, if we beat up 3 cupcakes? Would much prefer 3-0 start against crap Scum U. over 2-1 start and being able to say, "Yeah but at least that loss was against Oregon."
lol at us worrying about BCS rankings to begin with
almost as humorous as people thinking 6 win bowl seasons can be used as a recruiting tool and 2 weeks of extra practice time can turn crap into shinola.
:curse:
It DOES help recruiting. Look, when you say "we have been to a bowl every year for X years in a row," it is much more compelling than saying "hey, we went to a bowl a couple years back, but we play a super tough non-con schedule."
"You've probably seen us in nationally televised non-con games against some big time teams the last few years getting our asses whipped. That could be you son."
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Why do we need it anymore anyway? We already got Chris Harper to come back home.
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Didn't they do away with Strength of Schedule factor in the BCS rankings? So what does it matter, other than for fans wanting to see a big name, if we beat up 3 cupcakes? Would much prefer 3-0 start against crap Scum U. over 2-1 start and being able to say, "Yeah but at least that loss was against Oregon."
lol at us worrying about BCS rankings to begin with
almost as humorous as people thinking 6 win bowl seasons can be used as a recruiting tool and 2 weeks of extra practice time can turn crap into shinola.
:curse:
It DOES help recruiting. Look, when you say "we have been to a bowl every year for X years in a row," it is much more compelling than saying "hey, we went to a bowl a couple years back, but we play a super tough non-con schedule."
it's irrelevant in the hands of WRSOAT
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Didn't they do away with Strength of Schedule factor in the BCS rankings? So what does it matter, other than for fans wanting to see a big name, if we beat up 3 cupcakes? Would much prefer 3-0 start against crap Scum U. over 2-1 start and being able to say, "Yeah but at least that loss was against Oregon."
lol at us worrying about BCS rankings to begin with
almost as humorous as people thinking 6 win bowl seasons can be used as a recruiting tool and 2 weeks of extra practice time can turn crap into shinola.
:curse:
It DOES help recruiting. Look, when you say "we have been to a bowl every year for X years in a row," it is much more compelling than saying "hey, we went to a bowl a couple years back, but we play a super tough non-con schedule."
it's irrelevant in the hands of WRSOAT
On this we agree.
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Still would like to see a BCS name show up on the OOC now and again . . . it won't hurt a thing.
But I do agree that us playing Oregon and Miami in the same year was probably pretty dumb scheduling.
I'd be cool playing BCS names if those names happen to be akin to Northwestern, Indiana, Washington State etc. etc. Otherwise, there simply isn't any good reason (until we're back in national title hunts ( :lol: )) to play any team that we might lose to.
Two FCS teams is dumb scheduling, see last year, but one FCS team plus 2 gimme FBS games is just about perfect.
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If anybody is watching, their getting ready to make fun of us on college football live about this. ESPN2....
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If anybody is watching, their getting ready to make fun of us on college football live about this. ESPN2....
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saw this earlier on sportscenter. all things considered, they actually let us off pretty easy.
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If anybody is watching, their getting ready to make fun of us on college football live about this. ESPN2....
:combofan:
Man, that takes me back. Having ESPN make fun of us for our week schedule is like taking a time machine to the DOD.
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MIR is taking dumb-dumb pills on this one. If there is only one thing you take away from the DOD, it's that not only the fact that you can win at a high level scheduling cupcakes in the non-con, but rather that it's a necessary condition to sustain the level of perceived performance that assists in recruiting and fan interest in the post season.
Who gives a crap if your drive from Mound City is less enjoyable when you go watch the Cats play Directional U.? Skip the crap non-con games and save your dollars for a bowl trip.
Arguing that KSU is better off scheduling a difficult non-con is speculative, at best. Arguing that KSU is better off scheduling a weak non-con is based on proven history and rationale expectations for our future.
You completely missed my point. First of all scheduling 4 FCS schools in 3 years is total bullshit, no spinning that. My issue is with this Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) mentality of having to schedule Eastern rough ridin' Kentucky (you know it's bad when you play the worst directional Hicktucky school) to make a bowl. It was okay during the DOD because we knew we were playing for something at the end of the season, there were bigger more meaningful games. I didn't forget the true round robin, it's just that they won't mean crap so they don't matter much. There is a difference between elite OOC games and rough ridin' pathetic ones, I would like it if we found that difference. Give me WESTERN Kentucky, Ohio, Temple, hell Washington State blows schedule them.
Bottom line is that I would rather see a decent matchup in September than a horrible one that gets us to 6-6, 7-5 which nets an ass raping in the Insight Bowl.
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MIR is taking dumb-dumb pills on this one. If there is only one thing you take away from the DOD, it's that not only the fact that you can win at a high level scheduling cupcakes in the non-con, but rather that it's a necessary condition to sustain the level of perceived performance that assists in recruiting and fan interest in the post season.
Who gives a crap if your drive from Mound City is less enjoyable when you go watch the Cats play Directional U.? Skip the crap non-con games and save your dollars for a bowl trip.
Arguing that KSU is better off scheduling a difficult non-con is speculative, at best. Arguing that KSU is better off scheduling a weak non-con is based on proven history and rationale expectations for our future.
You completely missed my point. First of all scheduling 4 FCS schools in 3 years is total bullshit, no spinning that. My issue is with this Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) mentality of having to schedule Eastern rough ridin' Kentucky (you know it's bad when you play the worst directional Hicktucky school) to make a bowl. It was okay during the DOD because we knew we were playing for something at the end of the season, there were bigger more meaningful games. I didn't forget the true round robin, it's just that they won't mean crap so they don't matter much. There is a difference between elite OOC games and rough ridin' pathetic ones, I would like it if we found that difference. Give me WESTERN Kentucky, Ohio, Temple, hell Washington State blows schedule them.
Bottom line is that I would rather see a decent matchup in September than a horrible one that gets us to 6-6, 7-5 which nets an ass raping in the Insight Bowl.
That's where you and I differ, friend. And, IMO, there is no real difference between Eastern and Western Kentucky.
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And, IMO, there is no real difference between Eastern and Western Kentucky.
Yep, play whichever one we have a better chance of beating. Nobody knows the difference.
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Admittedly though, that year we beat WKU, it was kind of fun watching the 1-AA playoffs and being all EMAH for a couple weeks.
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Our OOC schedule must look like this every year
Indiana/Duke/Northwestern/Wazzou/NOT ANY SEC TEAM EVER
Sun Belt school
Southland Conference* (FCS) school
*Not Texas State, b/c KSU would lose :dunno:
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Our OOC schedule must look like this every year
Indiana/Duke/Northwestern/Wazzou/NOT ANY SEC TEAM EVER
I would be in favor of loading the non-con schedule with the junk BCS schools...maybe Vanderbilt too. :ohno:
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Vanderbilt would prison rape us right now.