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Post by: Kat Kid on June 29, 2010, 03:42:03 PM
http://daveweigel.com/?p=2369 (http://daveweigel.com/?p=2369)
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Post by: Jeffy on June 29, 2010, 04:47:32 PM
Waterboard him!
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Post by: Sugar Dick on June 29, 2010, 04:49:02 PM
http://daveweigel.com/?p=2369 (http://daveweigel.com/?p=2369)

That guy is DEFINITELY going to win.
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Post by: Tannoudji on June 29, 2010, 05:02:29 PM
He is absolutely 100% correct.  I only wish Kansas had people like him running for office.
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Post by: Goldbrick on June 29, 2010, 05:06:46 PM
Maybe I'm not caught up with the political correctness climate, but I didn't find the use of 'slavery' there as anything different than the usual hyperbolic rhetoric and not something needing to be 'defended'.

At least the guy has a sense of humor in addition to his weirdness.
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Post by: Tannoudji on June 29, 2010, 05:09:22 PM
Maybe I'm not caught up with the political correctness climate, but I didn't find the use of 'slavery' there as anything different than the usual hyperbolic rhetoric and not something needing to be 'defended'.

At least the guy has a sense of humor in addition to his weirdness.
Its PC gone mad.  And if you don't think parallels to Nazi Germany and the current administration are apt, well then you are are complicit.
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Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on June 29, 2010, 05:15:08 PM
Yes, these are the type of clear thinking people we need in congress, not bogged down with thoughts of "is it OK to say that?". :driving:
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Post by: Tannoudji on June 29, 2010, 05:19:11 PM
Yes, these are the type of clear thinking people we need in congress, not bogged down with thoughts of "is it OK to say that?". :driving:
I think you are trying to be sarcastic like most weak-minded liberals, but you are correct.  We as an entire nation need to do and say things that must be said and done, even if they hurt people's precious feelings.   It is always OK to say the truth.
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Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on June 29, 2010, 05:33:45 PM
Yes, these are the type of clear thinking people we need in congress, not bogged down with thoughts of "is it OK to say that?". :driving:
I think you are trying to be sarcastic like most weak-minded liberals, but you are correct.  We as an entire nation need to do and say things that must be said and done, even if they hurt people's precious feelings.   It is always OK to say the truth.

No, no sarcasm. I'm with you Tan man. It probably threw you off when I say I like gays, but I am a conservative living in the land of fruits and nuts, so I realize they are good people born the way they are. Some are even more conservative than I am. :cheers:
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Post by: Tannoudji on June 29, 2010, 05:42:09 PM
Yes, these are the type of clear thinking people we need in congress, not bogged down with thoughts of "is it OK to say that?". :driving:
I think you are trying to be sarcastic like most weak-minded liberals, but you are correct.  We as an entire nation need to do and say things that must be said and done, even if they hurt people's precious feelings.   It is always OK to say the truth.

No, no sarcasm. I'm with you Tan man. It probably threw you off when I say I like gays, but I am a conservative living in the land of fruits and nuts, so I realize they are good people born the way they are. Some are even more conservative than I am. :cheers:
Well you can think want you want, but I would never associate with fruits any more than I would hang out with pedos.  They may be "economically" conservative (aka Log Cabin Republicans), but that is only half of the equation.  You must also be socially and morally conservative.  You Arlen Specter types are useful sometimes when voting comes around, but when the times comes to stand and be counted for something revolutionary I won't be expecting any of your types (no offense that's just the way it is, you have become numbed to it I guess).
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Post by: OK_Cat on June 29, 2010, 06:11:39 PM
hilarious that people defend nutjobs like this guy (the politician, not Tannoudji)
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Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on June 29, 2010, 06:16:07 PM
Yes, these are the type of clear thinking people we need in congress, not bogged down with thoughts of "is it OK to say that?". :driving:
I think you are trying to be sarcastic like most weak-minded liberals, but you are correct.  We as an entire nation need to do and say things that must be said and done, even if they hurt people's precious feelings.   It is always OK to say the truth.

No, no sarcasm. I'm with you Tan man. It probably threw you off when I say I like gays, but I am a conservative living in the land of fruits and nuts, so I realize they are good people born the way they are. Some are even more conservative than I am. :cheers:
Well you can think want you want, but I would never associate with fruits any more than I would hang out with pedos.  They may be "economically" conservative (aka Log Cabin Republicans), but that is only half of the equation.  You must also be socially and morally conservative.  You Arlen Specter types are useful sometimes when voting comes around, but when the times comes to stand and be counted for something revolutionary I won't be expecting any of your types (no offense that's just the way it is, you have become numbed to it I guess).

No not numbed, just exposed. I have spent many hours talking with several gay friends regarding their thoughts on why they feel the way they do, and came to my own conclusion. They are born the way they are, and I refuse to believe that God would create a kind and good person just to send them to hell when they die.
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Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on June 29, 2010, 06:25:53 PM
hilarious that people defend nutjobs like this guy (the politician, not Tannoudji)

Curious what, precisely, he says in that commercial that you would consider nutty?
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Post by: Tannoudji on June 29, 2010, 06:57:53 PM
Yes, these are the type of clear thinking people we need in congress, not bogged down with thoughts of "is it OK to say that?". :driving:
I think you are trying to be sarcastic like most weak-minded liberals, but you are correct.  We as an entire nation need to do and say things that must be said and done, even if they hurt people's precious feelings.   It is always OK to say the truth.

No, no sarcasm. I'm with you Tan man. It probably threw you off when I say I like gays, but I am a conservative living in the land of fruits and nuts, so I realize they are good people born the way they are. Some are even more conservative than I am. :cheers:
Well you can think want you want, but I would never associate with fruits any more than I would hang out with pedos.  They may be "economically" conservative (aka Log Cabin Republicans), but that is only half of the equation.  You must also be socially and morally conservative.  You Arlen Specter types are useful sometimes when voting comes around, but when the times comes to stand and be counted for something revolutionary I won't be expecting any of your types (no offense that's just the way it is, you have become numbed to it I guess).

No not numbed, just exposed. I have spent many hours talking with several gay friends regarding their thoughts on why they feel the way they do, and came to my own conclusion. They are born the way they are, and I refuse to believe that God would create a kind and good person just to send them to hell when they die.

What you believe about G-d is immaterial. 

There is nothing that keeps wicked men, at any one moment, out of hell, but the mere pleasure of God.

God has laid himself under no obligation by any promise to keep any natural man out of hell one moment. God certainly has made no promises either of eternal life, or of any deliverance or preservation from eternal death, but what are contained in the covenant of grace, the promises that are given in Christ, in whom all the promises are yea and amen. But surely they have no interest in the promises of the covenant of grace that are not the children of the covenant, and that don't believe in any of the promises of the covenant, and have no interest in the Mediator of the covenant.

So that whatever some have imagined and pretended about promises made to natural men's earnest seeking and knocking, 'tis plain and manifest that whatever pains a natural man takes in religion, whatever prayers he makes, till he believes in Christ, God is under no manner of obligation to keep him a moment from eternal destruction.

So that thus it is, that natural men are held in the hand of God over the pit of hell; they have deserved the fiery pit, and are already sentenced to it; and God is dreadfully provoked, his anger is as great towards them as to those that are actually suffering the executions of the fierceness of his wrath in hell, and they have done nothing in the least to appease or abate that anger, neither is God in the least bound by any promise to hold 'em up one moment; the devil is waiting for them, hell is gaping for them, the flames gather and flash about them, and would fain lay hold on them, and swallow them up; the fire pent up in their own hearts is struggling to break out; and they have no interest in any mediator, there are no means within reach that can be any security to them. In short, they have no refuge, nothing to take hold of, all that preserves them every moment is the mere arbitrary will, and uncovenanted unobliged forbearance of an incensed God.

The God that holds you over the pit of hell, much as one holds a spider, or some loathsome insect, over the fire, abhors you, and is dreadfully provoked; his wrath towards you burns like fire; he looks upon you as worthy of nothing else, but to be cast into the fire; he is of purer eyes than to bear to have you in his sight; you are ten thousand times so abominable in his eyes as the most hateful venomous serpent is in ours. You have offended him infinitely more than ever a stubborn rebel did his prince: and yet 'tis nothing but his hand that holds you from falling into the fire every moment; 'tis to be ascribed to nothing else, that you did not go to hell the last night; that you was suffered to awake again in this world, after you closed your eyes to sleep: and there is no other reason to be given why you have not dropped into hell since you arose in the morning, but that God's hand has held you up; there is no other reason to be given why you han't gone to hell since you have sat here in the house of God, provoking his pure eyes by your sinful wicked manner of attending his solemn worship: yea, there is nothing else that is to be given as a reason why you don't this very moment drop down into hell.

O sinner! Consider the fearful danger you are in: 'tis a great furnace of wrath, a wide and bottomless pit, full of the fire of wrath, that you are held over in the hand of that God, whose wrath is provoked and incensed as much against you as against many of the damned in hell; you hang by a slender thread, with the flames of divine wrath flashing about it, and ready every moment to singe it, and burn it asunder; and you have no interest in any mediator, and nothing to lay hold of to save yourself, nothing to keep off the flames of wrath, nothing of your own, nothing that you ever have done, nothing that you can do, to induce God to spare you one moment.

Title: Re: Posted without comment
Post by: VGibsonLives on June 29, 2010, 07:15:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-BDc5VbKJ0&feature=related
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 29, 2010, 07:55:42 PM
Yes, these are the type of clear thinking people we need in congress, not bogged down with thoughts of "is it OK to say that?". :driving:
I think you are trying to be sarcastic like most weak-minded liberals, but you are correct.  We as an entire nation need to do and say things that must be said and done, even if they hurt people's precious feelings.   It is always OK to say the truth.

No, no sarcasm. I'm with you Tan man. It probably threw you off when I say I like gays, but I am a conservative living in the land of fruits and nuts, so I realize they are good people born the way they are. Some are even more conservative than I am. :cheers:
Well you can think want you want, but I would never associate with fruits any more than I would hang out with pedos.  They may be "economically" conservative (aka Log Cabin Republicans), but that is only half of the equation.  You must also be socially and morally conservative.  You Arlen Specter types are useful sometimes when voting comes around, but when the times comes to stand and be counted for something revolutionary I won't be expecting any of your types (no offense that's just the way it is, you have become numbed to it I guess).

Jesus agrees with you!!!
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Post by: Dirty Sanchez on June 29, 2010, 08:28:41 PM
http://daveweigel.com/?p=2369 (http://daveweigel.com/?p=2369)

Shouldn't you be starting a thread on the messiah not closing Gitmo as promised?  Or do you still bend over like an ass-pirate to his constant bullshit?

 :garr:
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Post by: OK_Cat on June 30, 2010, 09:25:13 AM
hilarious that people defend nutjobs like this guy (the politician, not Tannoudji)

Curious what, precisely, he says in that commercial that you would consider nutty?

he made a video where he, a politician running for office, is talking to Abraham Lincoln about how the government is inslaving us.     :lol: 
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Post by: Jeffy on June 30, 2010, 10:01:54 AM
hilarious that people defend nutjobs like this guy (the politician, not Tannoudji)

Curious what, precisely, he says in that commercial that you would consider nutty?

he made a video where he, a politician running for office, is talking to Abraham Lincoln about how the government is inslaving us.     :lol: 

"enslaving"
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Post by: OK_Cat on June 30, 2010, 10:24:25 AM
 :runaway:
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Post by: AzCat on June 30, 2010, 10:57:44 AM
hilarious that people defend nutjobs like this guy (the politician, not Tannoudji)

Curious what, precisely, he says in that commercial that you would consider nutty?

he made a video where he, a politician running for office, is talking to Abraham Lincoln about how the government is inslaving us.     :lol: 

At least it was only a commercial.  IIRC Hillary Clinton (who has already been in Congress, was damn near President and is presently part of Obama's cabinet) discussed at some length the conversations she claims to have had with the ghosts of wives of past presidents while she and Bill occupied the White House.   Whereas at least in the linked video there's no evidence that the politician in question actualy believes he is speaking to a ghost.

 :users:
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 30, 2010, 11:10:15 AM
hilarious that people defend nutjobs like this guy (the politician, not Tannoudji)

Curious what, precisely, he says in that commercial that you would consider nutty?

he made a video where he, a politician running for office, is talking to Abraham Lincoln about how the government is inslaving us.     :lol: 

At least it was only a commercial.  IIRC Hillary Clinton (who has already been in Congress, was damn near President and is presently part of Obama's cabinet) discussed at some length the conversations she claims to have had with the ghosts of wives of past presidents while she and Bill occupied the White House.   Whereas at least in the linked video there's no evidence that the politician in question actualy believes he is speaking to a ghost.

 :users:

He's a nut job because he thinks he's a slave to people who receive government benefits. I don't agree with all of the benefits that our government provides to people who don't work and keep having kids, but to say that deadbeats are our slave masters is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard a politician say, and that's really saying something.
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Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on June 30, 2010, 11:58:59 AM
hilarious that people defend nutjobs like this guy (the politician, not Tannoudji)

Curious what, precisely, he says in that commercial that you would consider nutty?

he made a video where he, a politician running for office, is talking to Abraham Lincoln about how the government is inslaving us.     :lol: 

At least it was only a commercial.  IIRC Hillary Clinton (who has already been in Congress, was damn near President and is presently part of Obama's cabinet) discussed at some length the conversations she claims to have had with the ghosts of wives of past presidents while she and Bill occupied the White House.   Whereas at least in the linked video there's no evidence that the politician in question actualy believes he is speaking to a ghost.

 :users:

He's a nut job because he thinks he's a slave to people who receive government benefits. I don't agree with all of the benefits that our government provides to people who don't work and keep having kids, but to say that deadbeats are our slave masters is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard a politician say, and that's really saying something.

Granted, it is over-the-top, but it can certainly be debated. Only half of working age Americans pay income taxes, and those of us that do pay taxes, on average, work more than 4 months out of the year just to pay for those taxes. It seems like slavery.
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Post by: OK_Cat on June 30, 2010, 01:02:17 PM
You're free to leave the USA and start your own country and call it "Bibletopia," so it's not slavery.
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Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on June 30, 2010, 01:33:33 PM
You're free to leave the USA and start your own country and call it "Bibletopia," so it's not slavery.

You must be talking about Tannouji.  :confused:

My country would be called "FlatTaxopia".   The income tax code would be one sentence long.
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 30, 2010, 01:52:30 PM
Granted, it is over-the-top, but it can certainly be debated. Only half of working age Americans pay income taxes, and those of us that do pay taxes, on average, work more than 4 months out of the year just to pay for those taxes. It seems like slavery.

I work about 3 months out of the year just to pay my rent. Maybe I should call my landlord "massa" next time I see him. Never mind the fact that I need a place to stay, just like you need the government to provide a defense, infrastructure, law enforcement, etc.
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Post by: Sugar Dick on June 30, 2010, 07:11:50 PM
Granted, it is over-the-top, but it can certainly be debated. Only half of working age Americans pay income taxes, and those of us that do pay taxes, on average, work more than 4 months out of the year just to pay for those taxes. It seems like slavery.

I work about 3 months out of the year just to pay my rent. Maybe I should call my landlord "massa" next time I see him. Never mind the fact that I need a place to stay, just like you need the government to provide a defense, infrastructure, law enforcement, etc.

You're a f*cking Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  You pay rent so you have a place to keep YOUR crap and to keep YOUR head dry.  People complain about taxes because the money they give the government goes so SOMEONE ELSE can lay flat on their back and bitch about people who are "greedy" and won't share more of their money so they can have a standard of life better than 90% of the world for doing absolutely nothing.


Note to all other morons like this guy:

The rhetoric surrounding taxes and being a slave to the government is waaaayyy older than this country and part of the reason for its foundation 200+ years ago.  Anyone that's shocked by his statement, is beyond ignorant, and frankly needs to find a Thomas the Tank Engine board to post on.

Just because you have been preconditioned to act outraged at anything with any implication of race, and can't get beyond the image of a black man in bondage picking cotton out of a field when you hear the word slave, doesn't make the statement outrageous.  All it means is that you're a close minded liberal trained to act like an ass, no better than a close minded conservative trained to act the same, and slightly dumber than a dog that knows when the bell rings its time to eat.

 :chainsaw:
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Post by: fatty fat fat on June 30, 2010, 07:15:11 PM
why do you let deadbeats bother you? if you were raised in a similar environment, you would also be a deadbeat.
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 30, 2010, 07:51:42 PM
Granted, it is over-the-top, but it can certainly be debated. Only half of working age Americans pay income taxes, and those of us that do pay taxes, on average, work more than 4 months out of the year just to pay for those taxes. It seems like slavery.

I work about 3 months out of the year just to pay my rent. Maybe I should call my landlord "massa" next time I see him. Never mind the fact that I need a place to stay, just like you need the government to provide a defense, infrastructure, law enforcement, etc.

You're a f*cking Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  You pay rent so you have a place to keep YOUR crap and to keep YOUR head dry.  People complain about taxes because the money they give the government goes so SOMEONE ELSE can lay flat on their back and bitch about people who are "greedy" and won't share more of their money so they can have a standard of life better than 90% of the world for doing absolutely nothing.


Note to all other morons like this guy:

The rhetoric surrounding taxes and being a slave to the government is waaaayyy older than this country and part of the reason for its foundation 200+ years ago.  Anyone that's shocked by his statement, is beyond ignorant, and frankly needs to find a Thomas the Tank Engine board to post on.

Just because you have been preconditioned to act outraged at anything with any implication of race, and can't get beyond the image of a black man in bondage picking cotton out of a field when you hear the word slave, doesn't make the statement outrageous.  All it means is that you're a close minded liberal trained to act like an ass, no better than a close minded conservative trained to act the same, and slightly dumber than a dog that knows when the bell rings its time to eat.

 :chainsaw:


I didn't realize that 100% of your taxes went to deadbeats. I suppose you stay off the interstate system and don't see the need to support a military, FBI, EPA, FEMA, etc. If you are only concerned about all your money going to deadbeats, the average taxpayer will have to work about 2.5 days per year to support welfare.
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Post by: AzCat on June 30, 2010, 08:15:09 PM
He's a nut job because he thinks he's a slave to people who receive government benefits. I don't agree with all of the benefits that our government provides to people who don't work and keep having kids, but to say that deadbeats are our slave masters is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard a politician say, and that's really saying something.

There were ancient societies who viewed tax rates below the bottom bracket of federal-only income tax (leaving aside for the moment federal payroll taxes, all state & local taxes, indirect federal taxes, imposed regulatory costs & the like) as slavery.  He's not speaking without precedent.

 :users:
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 30, 2010, 08:17:23 PM
He's a nut job because he thinks he's a slave to people who receive government benefits. I don't agree with all of the benefits that our government provides to people who don't work and keep having kids, but to say that deadbeats are our slave masters is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard a politician say, and that's really saying something.

There are ancient societies who viewed tax rates below the bottom bracket of federal-only income tax (leaving aside for the moment federal payroll taxes, all state & local taxes, indirect federal taxes, imposed regulatory costs & the like) as slavery.  He's not speaking without precedent.

 :users:

What societies were these? Were the people who were considered as slaves allowed to work in any field they want, move to whatever city they want, own property, and leave the country?
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Post by: AzCat on June 30, 2010, 08:22:14 PM
He's a nut job because he thinks he's a slave to people who receive government benefits. I don't agree with all of the benefits that our government provides to people who don't work and keep having kids, but to say that deadbeats are our slave masters is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard a politician say, and that's really saying something.

There are ancient societies who viewed tax rates below the bottom bracket of federal-only income tax (leaving aside for the moment federal payroll taxes, all state & local taxes, indirect federal taxes, imposed regulatory costs & the like) as slavery.  He's not speaking without precedent.

 :users:

What societies were these? Were the people who were considered as slaves allowed to work in any field they want, move to whatever city they want, own property, and leave the country?

Learning to differentiate your ass from a hole in the ground is left as an exercise for the reader.   :users:
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Post by: Sugar Dick on June 30, 2010, 08:27:02 PM
Granted, it is over-the-top, but it can certainly be debated. Only half of working age Americans pay income taxes, and those of us that do pay taxes, on average, work more than 4 months out of the year just to pay for those taxes. It seems like slavery.

I work about 3 months out of the year just to pay my rent. Maybe I should call my landlord "massa" next time I see him. Never mind the fact that I need a place to stay, just like you need the government to provide a defense, infrastructure, law enforcement, etc.

You're a f*cking Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  You pay rent so you have a place to keep YOUR crap and to keep YOUR head dry.  People complain about taxes because the money they give the government goes so SOMEONE ELSE can lay flat on their back and bitch about people who are "greedy" and won't share more of their money so they can have a standard of life better than 90% of the world for doing absolutely nothing.


Note to all other morons like this guy:

The rhetoric surrounding taxes and being a slave to the government is waaaayyy older than this country and part of the reason for its foundation 200+ years ago.  Anyone that's shocked by his statement, is beyond ignorant, and frankly needs to find a Thomas the Tank Engine board to post on.

Just because you have been preconditioned to act outraged at anything with any implication of race, and can't get beyond the image of a black man in bondage picking cotton out of a field when you hear the word slave, doesn't make the statement outrageous.  All it means is that you're a close minded liberal trained to act like an ass, no better than a close minded conservative trained to act the same, and slightly dumber than a dog that knows when the bell rings its time to eat.

 :chainsaw:


I didn't realize that 100% of your taxes went to deadbeats. I suppose you stay off the interstate system and don't see the need to support a military, FBI, EPA, FEMA, etc. If you are only concerned about all your money going to deadbeats, the average taxpayer will have to work about 2.5 days per year to support welfare.

Around 3/5 of federal income taxes go towards entitlement programs.  Your attempt at being clever is an enormous failure.  

BTW, I'm not complaining about taxes I'm trying to explain what other people are complaining about.  I understand that some level of taxes are necessary.  Then again, you're a f*cking idiot, so I shouldn't expect you to be able to read and comprehend, that would be like rubbing your tummy and patting your head at the same time.   :blank:
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 30, 2010, 08:42:51 PM
Granted, it is over-the-top, but it can certainly be debated. Only half of working age Americans pay income taxes, and those of us that do pay taxes, on average, work more than 4 months out of the year just to pay for those taxes. It seems like slavery.

I work about 3 months out of the year just to pay my rent. Maybe I should call my landlord "massa" next time I see him. Never mind the fact that I need a place to stay, just like you need the government to provide a defense, infrastructure, law enforcement, etc.

You're a f*cking Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  You pay rent so you have a place to keep YOUR crap and to keep YOUR head dry.  People complain about taxes because the money they give the government goes so SOMEONE ELSE can lay flat on their back and bitch about people who are "greedy" and won't share more of their money so they can have a standard of life better than 90% of the world for doing absolutely nothing.


Note to all other morons like this guy:

The rhetoric surrounding taxes and being a slave to the government is waaaayyy older than this country and part of the reason for its foundation 200+ years ago.  Anyone that's shocked by his statement, is beyond ignorant, and frankly needs to find a Thomas the Tank Engine board to post on.

Just because you have been preconditioned to act outraged at anything with any implication of race, and can't get beyond the image of a black man in bondage picking cotton out of a field when you hear the word slave, doesn't make the statement outrageous.  All it means is that you're a close minded liberal trained to act like an ass, no better than a close minded conservative trained to act the same, and slightly dumber than a dog that knows when the bell rings its time to eat.

 :chainsaw:


I didn't realize that 100% of your taxes went to deadbeats. I suppose you stay off the interstate system and don't see the need to support a military, FBI, EPA, FEMA, etc. If you are only concerned about all your money going to deadbeats, the average taxpayer will have to work about 2.5 days per year to support welfare.

Around 3/5 of federal income taxes go towards entitlement programs.  Your attempt at being clever is an enormous failure.  

BTW, I'm not complaining about taxes I'm trying to explain what other people are complaining about.  I understand that some level of taxes are necessary.  Then again, you're a f*cking idiot, so I shouldn't expect you to be able to read and comprehend, that would be like rubbing your tummy and patting your head at the same time.   :blank:

Yes, but only 2% of the federal budget goes to welfare. The rest of those entitlement programs are for retired Americans who happened to spend a lifetime paying into them. It hardly seems fair to eliminate social security and medicare at this point.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 30, 2010, 09:34:49 PM
They're essentially left with nothing but to try and obfuscate all the issues surrounding they're evolving list of f_ckups by trying to perpetually point the very fringe elements of their detractors. 

They know the heat is on rolling into November so expect this to increase 1000 fold.



Title: Re: Posted without comment
Post by: Sugar Dick on June 30, 2010, 09:49:42 PM
Granted, it is over-the-top, but it can certainly be debated. Only half of working age Americans pay income taxes, and those of us that do pay taxes, on average, work more than 4 months out of the year just to pay for those taxes. It seems like slavery.

I work about 3 months out of the year just to pay my rent. Maybe I should call my landlord "massa" next time I see him. Never mind the fact that I need a place to stay, just like you need the government to provide a defense, infrastructure, law enforcement, etc.

You're a f*cking Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  You pay rent so you have a place to keep YOUR crap and to keep YOUR head dry.  People complain about taxes because the money they give the government goes so SOMEONE ELSE can lay flat on their back and bitch about people who are "greedy" and won't share more of their money so they can have a standard of life better than 90% of the world for doing absolutely nothing.


Note to all other morons like this guy:

The rhetoric surrounding taxes and being a slave to the government is waaaayyy older than this country and part of the reason for its foundation 200+ years ago.  Anyone that's shocked by his statement, is beyond ignorant, and frankly needs to find a Thomas the Tank Engine board to post on.

Just because you have been preconditioned to act outraged at anything with any implication of race, and can't get beyond the image of a black man in bondage picking cotton out of a field when you hear the word slave, doesn't make the statement outrageous.  All it means is that you're a close minded liberal trained to act like an ass, no better than a close minded conservative trained to act the same, and slightly dumber than a dog that knows when the bell rings its time to eat.

 :chainsaw:


I didn't realize that 100% of your taxes went to deadbeats. I suppose you stay off the interstate system and don't see the need to support a military, FBI, EPA, FEMA, etc. If you are only concerned about all your money going to deadbeats, the average taxpayer will have to work about 2.5 days per year to support welfare.

Around 3/5 of federal income taxes go towards entitlement programs.  Your attempt at being clever is an enormous failure.  

BTW, I'm not complaining about taxes I'm trying to explain what other people are complaining about.  I understand that some level of taxes are necessary.  Then again, you're a f*cking idiot, so I shouldn't expect you to be able to read and comprehend, that would be like rubbing your tummy and patting your head at the same time.   :blank:

Yes, but only 2% of the federal budget goes to welfare. The rest of those entitlement programs are for retired Americans who happened to spend a lifetime paying into them. It hardly seems fair to eliminate social security and medicare at this point.

The deadbeats comment and the part about being a slave to the government were two different talking points. 

Nonetheless, 2% of $3+ Trillion is a substantial figure that a lot of people work hard to pay in to.  Social Security and Medicare include disability fraud and medicaid so you can't leave that out.  There are also a million government programs that go towards social programs meant to aid "unfortunate" people like HUD  that have been entirely unsuccessful and help no one, yet there's been no mention of repeal.  People don't like the Federal Government because they have absolutely no accountability for the failures and excesses of their programs.  Instead of dropping a program, they create a new one to fix the problem the previous one is creating.  Think of a hole in a water tower, any sane person would patch it, the federal government builds a water tower underneath it to capture the escaping water.

The point is (if we can stay on one) talking about being a slave to your government is not outrageous, unless you're from another planet.  That saying has been around long before this country was ever even contemplated.
Title: Re: Posted without comment
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 30, 2010, 11:18:38 PM
Granted, it is over-the-top, but it can certainly be debated. Only half of working age Americans pay income taxes, and those of us that do pay taxes, on average, work more than 4 months out of the year just to pay for those taxes. It seems like slavery.

I work about 3 months out of the year just to pay my rent. Maybe I should call my landlord "massa" next time I see him. Never mind the fact that I need a place to stay, just like you need the government to provide a defense, infrastructure, law enforcement, etc.

You're a f*cking Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  You pay rent so you have a place to keep YOUR crap and to keep YOUR head dry.  People complain about taxes because the money they give the government goes so SOMEONE ELSE can lay flat on their back and bitch about people who are "greedy" and won't share more of their money so they can have a standard of life better than 90% of the world for doing absolutely nothing.


Note to all other morons like this guy:

The rhetoric surrounding taxes and being a slave to the government is waaaayyy older than this country and part of the reason for its foundation 200+ years ago.  Anyone that's shocked by his statement, is beyond ignorant, and frankly needs to find a Thomas the Tank Engine board to post on.

Just because you have been preconditioned to act outraged at anything with any implication of race, and can't get beyond the image of a black man in bondage picking cotton out of a field when you hear the word slave, doesn't make the statement outrageous.  All it means is that you're a close minded liberal trained to act like an ass, no better than a close minded conservative trained to act the same, and slightly dumber than a dog that knows when the bell rings its time to eat.

 :chainsaw:


I didn't realize that 100% of your taxes went to deadbeats. I suppose you stay off the interstate system and don't see the need to support a military, FBI, EPA, FEMA, etc. If you are only concerned about all your money going to deadbeats, the average taxpayer will have to work about 2.5 days per year to support welfare.

Around 3/5 of federal income taxes go towards entitlement programs.  Your attempt at being clever is an enormous failure.  

BTW, I'm not complaining about taxes I'm trying to explain what other people are complaining about.  I understand that some level of taxes are necessary.  Then again, you're a f*cking idiot, so I shouldn't expect you to be able to read and comprehend, that would be like rubbing your tummy and patting your head at the same time.   :blank:

Yes, but only 2% of the federal budget goes to welfare. The rest of those entitlement programs are for retired Americans who happened to spend a lifetime paying into them. It hardly seems fair to eliminate social security and medicare at this point.

The deadbeats comment and the part about being a slave to the government were two different talking points. 

Nonetheless, 2% of $3+ Trillion is a substantial figure that a lot of people work hard to pay in to.  Social Security and Medicare include disability fraud and medicaid so you can't leave that out.  There are also a million government programs that go towards social programs meant to aid "unfortunate" people like HUD  that have been entirely unsuccessful and help no one, yet there's been no mention of repeal.  People don't like the Federal Government because they have absolutely no accountability for the failures and excesses of their programs.  Instead of dropping a program, they create a new one to fix the problem the previous one is creating.  Think of a hole in a water tower, any sane person would patch it, the federal government builds a water tower underneath it to capture the escaping water.

The point is (if we can stay on one) talking about being a slave to your government is not outrageous, unless you're from another planet.  That saying has been around long before this country was ever even contemplated.

Look, I usually vote republican and don't like entitlement programs any more than you do. But they're called entitlement programs for a reason. Once you have them, they're pretty much impossible to get rid of. The key is to not keep creating new entitlement programs (like health care).

Back on topic, the politician in the commercial tried to say he's a slave in the literal sense, not the figurative sense that you mentioned. That video makes him look completely crazy, and for you guys to defend it does absolutely nothing for the image of the republican party. There is no way in hell I would ever vote for him.