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Title: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: OregonSmock on January 31, 2010, 05:00:20 PM
KU picks up a few more commitments and moves ahead of K-State in the Rivals team rankings. 
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: steve dave on January 31, 2010, 05:01:59 PM
 :bball:
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: steve dave on January 31, 2010, 05:03:17 PM
Also, any good ones Beems?
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: Cire on January 31, 2010, 05:06:29 PM
Wow, thought Gill would recruit better.
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: _33 on January 31, 2010, 05:08:00 PM
Didn't know there were any teams behind us in the recruiting rankings.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: OregonSmock on January 31, 2010, 05:13:55 PM
Also, any good ones Beems?





Yep.  KU was able to steal a couple commitments from other schools.  Brandon Bourbon, a 4-star RB who was committed to Stanford, committed to KU over the weekend.  KU was also able to get Dexter McDonald, a 3-star CB out of Rockhurst, to switch his commitment from Mizzou.  Needless to say, I'm really starting to like the new coaching staff. 
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 31, 2010, 06:14:46 PM
Avg Rating:

KU-2.89

K-State-2.94


Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 31, 2010, 06:19:19 PM
but the question remains.....would uk's 2nd string beat our 1st?   :ohno: :ohno:
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: waks on January 31, 2010, 06:27:22 PM
Did the RB that changed commitments change because he couldn't qualify to Stanford? That would be my guess.
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: OregonSmock on January 31, 2010, 07:48:38 PM
No.... he has a 24 on his ACT and a 3.7 GPA.  Changed because he wanted to stay closer to home and play for Coach Gill. 
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on January 31, 2010, 09:22:06 PM
No.... he has a 24 on his ACT and a 3.7 GPA.  Changed because he wanted to stay closer to home and play for Coach Gill. 

yup, not good enough to get into Stanford.

http://colleges.collegetoolkit.com/colleges/admissions/stanford_university/243744.aspx
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: OregonSmock on January 31, 2010, 09:49:33 PM
Scholarship athletes only have to pass minimum requirements. 
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: waks on February 01, 2010, 01:22:40 AM
Scholarship athletes only have to pass minimum requirements. 
What are Stanfords minimum requirements out of curiosity...?
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: The42Yardstick on February 01, 2010, 01:27:44 AM
Who gives a crap if he could or couldn't get into Stanford? If we get good athletes who are smart, that's awesome. If we get good athletes who are stupid, then we're Oklahoma State. That's still a step up from the abortion that was 2009 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: waks on February 01, 2010, 01:37:05 AM
Quote from: Bourbon
I prayed on it and I have been talking to a lot of people about it. I talked to the coaches at Kansas and I'm going to be a Jayhawk."

Clear that Gill sold him on the God thing. Looks to me to be a Jake Sharpe clone.
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 01, 2010, 01:44:47 AM
Who gives a crap if he could or couldn't get into Stanford? If we get good athletes who are smart, that's awesome. If we get good athletes who are stupid, then we're Oklahoma State. That's still a step up from the abortion that was 2009 :facepalm:

i'm w/ bmw. if gill can round up all of the god fearing, good students from the surrounding area then i have no doubt that this will be nothing but good thing for us all. go gill. god up the locals. go ku football.
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: sys on February 01, 2010, 03:06:32 AM
Did the RB that changed commitments change because he couldn't qualify to Stanford? That would be my guess.

easily qualified.  but a lot of people don't like hanging out with people that are smarter than they are.  not everyone has bmw's unflappable confidence.
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: Stupid Fitz on February 02, 2010, 12:10:30 PM
Congrats BMW, great gets.  Also glad to see you still are a glass half full kind of guy.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: bleedpurple on February 02, 2010, 12:21:08 PM
LOL, congrats BMW, you are the king of bragging about sh*t that doens't matter. "Some guy rated the Gill hire an A!" "We just moved ahead of K-State and now have the 54th best recruiting class!" Hahaha, why aren't you bragging about your win saturday, come on dude, you're better than this!
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: WildcatNkilt on February 02, 2010, 12:27:37 PM
I want an offical Gridiron Club update from Ben.  Post those digital renditions again.  TIA
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: Bookcat on October 22, 2011, 06:03:09 PM
KU picks up a few more commitments and moves ahead of K-State in the Rivals team rankings. 

you're so much more talented than our team.  :lol:
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 22, 2011, 08:15:41 PM
KU picks up a few more commitments and moves ahead of K-State in the Rivals team rankings. 

you're so much more talented than our team.  :lol:

Had no idea 4* RB commit Brandon Bourbon was white

 :lol: :lol:

Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 22, 2011, 08:52:05 PM
Bourbon is just awful.  Poor loser.  I feel bad.
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: Bookcat on October 22, 2011, 09:01:28 PM
Bourbon is just awful.  Poor loser.  I feel bad.

He's no Jake Sharp*



*he's straight
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 22, 2011, 09:29:15 PM
Bourbon is just awful.  Poor loser.  I feel bad.

He's no Jake Sharp*



*he's straight

He was supposed to be good but he is a pussy.
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: Andy on October 23, 2011, 12:47:00 AM
wonder if he regrets not going to stanford
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: jabba11 on October 23, 2011, 08:36:17 AM
wonder if he regrets not going to stanford
Gill is an example of how to take 3 and 4 star recruits and lose horribly with them Snyder is a good example of how to take 2 3 and 4 star recruits and make them winners..Thereby proving that "star" talent doesnt always translate to a winning program..
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 23, 2011, 10:16:09 AM
wonder if he regrets not going to stanford
Gill is an example of how to take 3 and 4 star recruits and lose horribly with them Snyder is a good example of how to take 2 3 and 4 star recruits and make them winners..Thereby proving that "star" talent doesnt always translate to a winning program..

Gill is an example of why you need good players at every position, not just one position.  Recruiting rankings are Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) because they just aggregate stars (which is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) to begin with).  They don't look at "needs filled".
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: eastcat on October 23, 2011, 10:42:28 AM
No.... he has a 24 on his ACT and a 3.7 GPA.  Changed because he wanted to stay closer to home and play for Coach Gill. 

Pretty sure Stanford's minimum requirements on the ACT is 27-29. It was one of those two when I applied. I doubt he qualified.
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: Cire on October 24, 2011, 02:38:15 PM
No.... he has a 24 on his ACT and a 3.7 GPA.  Changed because he wanted to stay closer to home and play for Coach Gill. 

Pretty sure Stanford's minimum requirements on the ACT is 27-29. It was one of those two when I applied. I doubt he qualified.

Most schools have slightly different rules regarding qualifying and athletes.  I don't know if Stanford does.
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: jtksu on October 24, 2011, 02:50:15 PM
Pretty sure private schools can admit just about anyone they want to.  I doubt Stanford would sully their rep by letting in a shot load of dummies but I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't admit a few athletes who don't meet their normal requirements.
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: fatty fat fat on October 24, 2011, 02:55:00 PM
No.... he has a 24 on his ACT and a 3.7 GPA.  Changed because he wanted to stay closer to home and play for Coach Gill.  

Pretty sure Stanford's minimum requirements on the ACT is 27-29. It was one of those two when I applied. I doubt he qualified.

Most schools have slightly different rules regarding qualifying and athletes.  I don't know if Stanford does.

I doubt they do, and they probably parade that fact around 24/7.

I love SU's weird majors they make for football players. Tobi gerhardt was a "engineering sciences" major. WTF is that?
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: jtksu on October 24, 2011, 03:09:11 PM
Management Sciences and Engineering.  Gerhart is a smart dude.

articles.sfgate.com/2009-12-13/bay-area/17220818_1_toby-gerhart-heisman-finalists-stanford
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: fatty fat fat on October 24, 2011, 03:13:55 PM
Love the token "only athletes at stanford go to class" article.

Thanks JT.

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Mom and son had meetings to study philosophy, public speaking, biology and anthropology. Their biology professor didn't think a 13-year-old could do the work. She graded Gerhart's first exam in front of all the students.

To her disbelief, he had earned the highest score in the class.


 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: jtksu on October 24, 2011, 03:23:17 PM
Yeah, pretty everyone is the starting RB and CF at their school while carrying 21 hrs.  Yawn.  So typical.  :rollseyes:
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: deputy dawg on October 24, 2011, 03:27:32 PM
wonder if he regrets not going to stanford
ku is pretty much on par with Stanford, Harvard on the Kaw, Berkley of the Midwest, etc.  At least that's what I hear.
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: fatty fat fat on October 24, 2011, 03:31:15 PM


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ku is pretty much on par with Stanford, Harvard on the Kaw, Berkley of the Midwest, etc.  At least that's what I hear.

kstaters can be such retards.
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: deputy dawg on October 24, 2011, 03:33:22 PM
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kstaters can be such retards.

Yeah, fff, you'd be Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) too if you heard the nicnames ku grads give their school as much as I have.
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: jtksu on October 24, 2011, 03:34:35 PM
FFF gets so bitchy sometimes, even lashing out at his KSU brethren.  Dude is all west coast now.
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: OregonSmock on October 24, 2011, 03:36:01 PM
Lawrence really is a great place to go to school.  So sad that my fellow Kansans can't admit that.
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: AzCat on October 24, 2011, 04:01:36 PM
Lawrence really is a great place to go to school.  So sad that my fellow Kansans can't admit that.

Yeah I hear Haskell & Free State are pretty sweet. 
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: EMAWzified on October 24, 2011, 04:07:47 PM
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Lawrence really is a great place to go to school.  So sad that my fellow Kansans can't admit that.
It's OK, but provincial and locked in the 60s. Visited Manhappiness for the first time in about six months Saturday to watch the game with my brother. Hardly recognized the city. Construction everywhere. Bio-weapons lab is going to transform Manhattan into the Midwest's economic engine (even if it means there's a 90 percent chance the zombie apocalypse originates there).
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: waks on October 26, 2011, 02:34:50 AM
No.... he has a 24 on his ACT and a 3.7 GPA.  Changed because he wanted to stay closer to home and play for Coach Gill.  

Pretty sure Stanford's minimum requirements on the ACT is 27-29. It was one of those two when I applied. I doubt he qualified.

Most schools have slightly different rules regarding qualifying and athletes.  I don't know if Stanford does.

I doubt they do, and they probably parade that fact around 24/7.

I love SU's weird majors they make for football players. Tobi gerhardt was a "engineering sciences" major. WTF is that?
Luck is an architectural design major which is unaccredited according to a friend that goes to Stanford.
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: jtksu on October 26, 2011, 02:47:01 AM
Will that keep Luck from making stupid, guaratneed NFL money?  :ohnol:
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: ednksu on October 26, 2011, 02:55:00 AM
To the people talking about academic requirements:

Schools have clauses to work around standards.  They are usually called some sort "special talent" or service exemption.  Outside the Lines had a great report on the use of this exemption to get revenue sports players into schools and how they are managed to keep them moving along to meet academic progress, usually by using learning disability modifications.  FSU had just below 100 exemptions one year.  76 or some number were from football, a few from other sports and 1 kid from Asia who could play the cello.
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: waks on October 26, 2011, 03:16:44 AM
To the people talking about academic requirements:

Schools have clauses to work around standards.  They are usually called some sort "special talent" or service exemption.  Outside the Lines had a great report on the use of this exemption to get revenue sports players into schools and how they are managed to keep them moving along to meet academic progress, usually by using learning disability modifications.  FSU had just below 100 exemptions one year.  76 or some number were from football, a few from other sports and 1 kid from Asia who could play the cello.
I believe the NCAA rules say that you can make exemptions to your acceptance requirements for athletes as long as you make the same exemptions for students that are talented in other areas (i.e. music, debate/forensics, theater, etc.)

Apologies if this was the exact same thing you were trying to say.
Title: Re: Well, that didn't take long
Post by: ednksu on October 26, 2011, 03:30:34 AM
To the people talking about academic requirements:

Schools have clauses to work around standards.  They are usually called some sort "special talent" or service exemption.  Outside the Lines had a great report on the use of this exemption to get revenue sports players into schools and how they are managed to keep them moving along to meet academic progress, usually by using learning disability modifications.  FSU had just below 100 exemptions one year.  76 or some number were from football, a few from other sports and 1 kid from Asia who could play the cello.
I believe the NCAA rules say that you can make exemptions to your acceptance requirements for athletes as long as you make the same exemptions for students that are talented in other areas (i.e. music, debate/forensics, theater, etc.)

Apologies if this was the exact same thing you were trying to say.
Yeah it is.  I was trying to say it the way you did through the example at FSU where it was a crap load of football players and one cellist and a few dancers or some crap.  From what I got out of the Outside the Lines report it was largely up to the schools to establish who gets these exemptions and than they have to keep them up to par with the NCAA from there.  Tagging them as LD students gives them a lot more flexibility in modifying courses to keep people eligible.