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Title: Recruiting 'Out East' a Necessity for schools like KSU, ISU, etc.
Post by: Havs on June 22, 2010, 12:10:37 PM
I recently read an article (linked at bottom of post) about Fred Hoiberg reopening recruiting ties in New York and New England first put together under Larry Eustachy when Wayne Morgan was his top assistant. It mentioned the likes of Jamaal Tinsley, Curtis Stinson, and Will Blalock. However, while Iowa State did not recruit 'out east,' we notably seemed to struggle. (not saying that was the main issue or anything). While Greg McDermott seemed to recruit more in the Midwest, Frank Martin has recruited 'out east' in Washington, DC, and has found great success, similar to Eustachy and Morgan's success at Iowa State from 1999 to 2005. Just curious what you guys think of the article, and whether its necessary for schools like Iowa State and Kansas State to recruit players from cities like NYC, Philly, Boston, DC.

http://www.gothamhoops.com/?p=4335
Title: Re: Recruiting 'Out East' a Necessity for schools like KSU, ISU, etc.
Post by: michigancat on June 22, 2010, 12:13:09 PM
Geography is irrelevant.  If you can get players that can play from "out east" or "out west" or "down south" or "Iowa", it doesn't matter if they can play.
Title: Re: Recruiting 'Out East' a Necessity for schools like KSU, ISU, etc.
Post by: sys on June 22, 2010, 12:16:37 PM
isu has lived at brewster under otzel.
Title: Re: Recruiting 'Out East' a Necessity for schools like KSU, ISU, etc.
Post by: chum1 on June 22, 2010, 12:51:50 PM
The East Coast is to basketball what Florida and Texas are to football.  They just play better ball there.
Title: Re: Recruiting 'Out East' a Necessity for schools like KSU, ISU, etc.
Post by: jtksu on June 22, 2010, 01:17:25 PM
That's just not true.  In football, the south schools have an advantage because of the weather they are afforded.  In basketball, the advantage the east coast schools enjoy  is simply a larger population pool.  AAU ball has really eliminated much of what used to be a sizable gap in competition that players face.
Title: Re: Recruiting 'Out East' a Necessity for schools like KSU, ISU, etc.
Post by: KITNfury on June 22, 2010, 01:33:09 PM
That's just not true.  In football, the south schools have an advantage because of the weather they are afforded.  In basketball, the advantage the east coast schools enjoy  is simply a larger population pool.  AAU ball has really eliminated much of what used to be a sizable gap in competition that players face.
That's probably mostly true, but from what I know, the south puts a huge favorite towards football, so usually their best athletes go there if they can. And, from what I've heard, the north east kids put an emphasis on bball, so they play that first. Confirmation anyone from the northeast?
Title: Re: Recruiting 'Out East' a Necessity for schools like KSU, ISU, etc.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 22, 2010, 10:33:00 PM
"What about recruiting to the west, like Junction City?"

T. A.
Title: Re: Recruiting 'Out East' a Necessity for schools like KSU, ISU, etc.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on June 22, 2010, 10:34:54 PM
"What about recruiting to the west, like Junction City?"

T. A.
That has worked well for us in the past imo.
Title: Re: Recruiting 'Out East' a Necessity for schools like KSU, ISU, etc.
Post by: jtksu on June 22, 2010, 10:41:02 PM
True, pretty sure our lack of western recruiting cost us Reids little bro. And then freaking Washburn outrecruited us the second go round.
Title: Re: Recruiting 'Out East' a Necessity for schools like KSU, ISU, etc.
Post by: ChiComCat on June 23, 2010, 12:15:16 PM
For future ref Haverhill, please don't lump us in with your ball team.  We are trying to shed that image, TIA
Title: Re: Recruiting 'Out East' a Necessity for schools like KSU, ISU, etc.
Post by: Havs on June 23, 2010, 01:08:28 PM
For future ref Haverhill, please don't lump us in with your ball team.  We are trying to shed that image, TIA

Yea, cuz being lumped with a team that actually has Big 12 Hardware is a horrible thing. My bad.
Title: Re: Recruiting 'Out East' a Necessity for schools like KSU, ISU, etc.
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on June 23, 2010, 01:47:57 PM
For future ref Haverhill, please don't lump us in with your ball team.  We are trying to shed that image, TIA

Yea, cuz being lumped with a team that actually has Big 12 Hardware is a horrible thing. My bad.
:surprised:
Title: Re: Recruiting 'Out East' a Necessity for schools like KSU, ISU, etc.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on June 23, 2010, 02:01:45 PM
For future ref Haverhill, please don't lump us in with your ball team.  We are trying to shed that image, TIA

Yea, cuz being lumped with a team that actually has Big 12 Hardware is a horrible thing. My bad.
scoreboar....god dammit. nvm
Title: Re: Recruiting 'Out East' a Necessity for schools like KSU, ISU, etc.
Post by: sys on June 23, 2010, 02:07:35 PM
Yea, cuz being lumped with a team that actually has Big 12 Hardware is a horrible thing. My bad.

pffft.  *.
Title: Re: Recruiting 'Out East' a Necessity for schools like KSU, ISU, etc.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on June 23, 2010, 02:26:50 PM
 :eek:
Title: Re: Recruiting 'Out East' a Necessity for schools like KSU, ISU, etc.
Post by: ChiComCat on June 23, 2010, 03:57:28 PM
For future ref Haverhill, please don't lump us in with your ball team.  We are trying to shed that image, TIA

Yea, cuz being lumped with a team that actually has Big 12 Hardware is a horrible thing. My bad.

It was all in jest and all, and then he has to go for the heart
Title: Re: Recruiting 'Out East' a Necessity for schools like KSU, ISU, etc.
Post by: Havs on June 23, 2010, 08:58:47 PM
For future ref Haverhill, please don't lump us in with your ball team.  We are trying to shed that image, TIA

Yea, cuz being lumped with a team that actually has Big 12 Hardware is a horrible thing. My bad.

It was all in jest and all, and then he has to go for the heart

 :chainsaw: