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Title: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: CHONGS on August 23, 2025, 03:33:20 PM
I might as well overreact and write some negative Nelly predictions down based on the football game just played.

1. This is the year KU beats us.
2. This team is going to lose an out of conference game (and I am not counting Arizona toward this), probably Army.
3. The game against Colorado will be for bowl eligibility.

Feel free to tell me how full of crap I am and throw these back in face later.  Also, add your own!
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: Justwin on August 23, 2025, 03:44:05 PM
What makes you think Army is capable of beating us? From everything I've heard and seen, they are down this year.
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: Purple Derpathy on August 23, 2025, 04:14:46 PM
As someone who had to witness this atrocious game in person, there is a lot to worry about.

O-line looked pretty good on passing downs but we were not exactly opening up holes in the run game and we had some stupid ill-timed penalties.

No idea what happened to Edwards. I guess he got hurt?

Defense leaked like a faucet the second half. Not sure where the pressure went.

Most frustrating is our play calling. Wells sucks. He is what we thought he was....

Bottom line, we looked poorly coached in nearly every facet of the game. Losing CK continues to sting...
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: Stevesie60 on August 23, 2025, 04:21:22 PM
We lose at KU for sure. At least we don't have to worry about Avery going to the NFL next year! And I honestly don't think he transfers, but then he comes back next year and we go 8-4.

We'll always have our daydreams of how good this era could have been.
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: ben ji on August 23, 2025, 04:34:19 PM
As I age into an old man one of my greatest decision's was to only allow sports to bring me joy. Was I angry and disappointed right after the game? Sure, but after about an hour I was over it.

And you know what, when our Katz rip off like 5 straight wins after this I'm going to be first pumping my face off until the inevitable WTF loss and then its rinse and repeat.
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: CHONGS on August 23, 2025, 04:38:20 PM
As I age into an old man one of my greatest decision's was to only allow sports to bring me joy. Was I angry and disappointed right after the game? Sure, but after about an hour I was over it.

And you know what, when our Katz rip off like 5 straight wins after this I'm going to be first pumping my face off until the inevitable WTF loss and then its rinse and repeat.
You are wise
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: star seed 7 on August 23, 2025, 04:38:38 PM
As I age into an old man one of my greatest decision's was to only allow sports to bring me joy. Was I angry and disappointed right after the game? Sure, but after about an hour I was over it.

And you know what, when our Katz rip off like 5 straight wins after this I'm going to be first pumping my face off until the inevitable WTF loss and then its rinse and repeat.

It's incredibly freeing
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: CHONGS on August 23, 2025, 04:39:14 PM
After our first win I can't wait to post my overreactions in the other direction.
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: goCats101 on August 23, 2025, 04:47:45 PM
- 7-5 is a possibility (ISU, Baylor, KU, Tech, Utah)
- our special teams coach is a dud, and some of these losses will be close/come down to the inability to make a field goal
- Wells and the offense will improve, he’ll do enough to keep his job
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: catastrophe on August 23, 2025, 05:34:50 PM
As I age into an old man one of my greatest decision's was to only allow sports to bring me joy. Was I angry and disappointed right after the game? Sure, but after about an hour I was over it.

And you know what, when our Katz rip off like 5 straight wins after this I'm going to be first pumping my face off until the inevitable WTF loss and then its rinse and repeat.
You are wise
Agreed. I’m getting there but have much to learn.

I do think the that KSU fanbase (along with many others) have a sinking feeling that we’re on the cusp of becoming irrelevant and need to make something memorable happen now. Honestly, though, I can scarcely remember BSFS louder than times that we were struggling for bowl eligibility.
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: Super PurpleCat on August 23, 2025, 05:38:31 PM
If it's any consolation, us slipping into irrelevancy will be shared with many other schools as college football as we know it collapses.
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: tdaver on August 23, 2025, 05:52:59 PM
do enough to keep his job

That’s a problem.  To be better than 8-4 every year, we need coaches we’re fighting to keep.
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: wetwillie on August 23, 2025, 05:59:13 PM
2012 probably belonged in the convo for relevant but we haven't been there in a decade and half
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: ben ji on August 23, 2025, 06:23:43 PM
do enough to keep his job

That’s a problem.  To be better than 8-4 every year, we need coaches we’re fighting to keep.
At the end of the day we are Kansas State. A 8-4 floor is rough ridin' amazing given our history/geography/enrollment/etc
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: star seed 7 on August 23, 2025, 06:25:22 PM
0-1 headed into week 1 :lol:
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: felix rex on August 23, 2025, 06:31:42 PM
Pop Tart is a mediocre QB, and we will never compete for anything meaningful while he’s under center.
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: wetwillie on August 23, 2025, 06:47:25 PM
Pop Tart is a mediocre QB, and we will never compete for anything meaningful while he’s under center.

Breaking a 3 year posting hiatus for this, lmao.
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: tdaver on August 23, 2025, 06:57:03 PM
do enough to keep his job

That’s a problem.  To be better than 8-4 every year, we need coaches we’re fighting to keep.
At the end of the day we are Kansas State. A 8-4 floor is rough ridin' amazing given our history/geography/enrollment/etc

But it’s also an 8-4 ceiling
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: star seed 7 on August 23, 2025, 07:03:22 PM
do enough to keep his job

That’s a problem.  To be better than 8-4 every year, we need coaches we’re fighting to keep.
At the end of the day we are Kansas State. A 8-4 floor is rough ridin' amazing given our history/geography/enrollment/etc

But it’s also an 8-4 ceiling

Naw, he's fully capable of winning the conference again
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: nicname on August 23, 2025, 07:47:47 PM
AJ’s dad and bro doing a bit of over reacting. Prob too much Guinness
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: Cire on August 23, 2025, 07:54:21 PM
Wells is terrible


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Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: wetwillie on August 23, 2025, 08:02:11 PM
Wells is terrible


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I was pretty horned up when they motioned Jace into the wildcat and did a fake reverse. Unfortunately that was apparently all he had in the playbook.
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: nicname on August 23, 2025, 08:02:18 PM
Wells is terrible


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Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: tdaver on August 23, 2025, 08:04:07 PM
do enough to keep his job

That’s a problem.  To be better than 8-4 every year, we need coaches we’re fighting to keep.
At the end of the day we are Kansas State. A 8-4 floor is rough ridin' amazing given our history/geography/enrollment/etc

But it’s also an 8-4 ceiling

Naw, he's fully capable of winning the conference again

2019 8-4
2020 4-6
2021 7-5
2022 9-3
2023 8-4
2024 8-4

I’m not sure the breakout 9-3 years get us into the championship game with the big conference schedules.  And yes, I’m sticking to the theme of this thread.
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: Super PurpleCat on August 23, 2025, 08:23:09 PM
Keeping our heads above water and in bowl games over the years is commendable considering who we are and the landscape of crap CFB is these days, but man it would be nice to do better than 8-4 and a mid-December bowl each year.
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: _33 on August 23, 2025, 08:24:39 PM
As I age into an old man one of my greatest decision's was to only allow sports to bring me joy. Was I angry and disappointed right after the game? Sure, but after about an hour I was over it.

And you know what, when our Katz rip off like 5 straight wins after this I'm going to be first pumping my face off until the inevitable WTF loss and then its rinse and repeat.

I'm getting there. A loss like this would have ruined several days for me just a couple years ago. Now I went out and pressure washed the patio and used my new Ryobi pole saw to trim a couple limbs, and after I was done I forgot the game had happened for like 30 minutes. But then I got sad again when I remembered.  :cry: Baby steps.
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: felix rex on August 23, 2025, 08:32:10 PM
Pop Tart is a mediocre QB, and we will never compete for anything meaningful while he’s under center.

Breaking a 3 year posting hiatus for this, lmao.

I pick my spots
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: Stupid Fitz on August 23, 2025, 08:50:33 PM
As I age into an old man one of my greatest decision's was to only allow sports to bring me joy. Was I angry and disappointed right after the game? Sure, but after about an hour I was over it.

And you know what, when our Katz rip off like 5 straight wins after this I'm going to be first pumping my face off until the inevitable WTF loss and then its rinse and repeat.

I'm getting there. A loss like this would have ruined several days for me just a couple years ago. Now I went out and pressure washed the patio and used my new Ryobi pole saw to trim a couple limbs, and after I was done I forgot the game had happened for like 30 minutes. But then I got sad again when I remembered.  :cry: Baby steps.
I’m pretty much there but I still get frustrated with the same stupid mistakes and/or play calls. Like, if we play good but get mushed by better players, whatevs. It does bug the crap out of me when the special teams sucks or we throw 3 yard outs on 3rd and 5. This crap just keeps happening and it doesn’t have to. Whatevs though. I hope the Dublin bros had fun.


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Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: Kid In the Hall on August 23, 2025, 11:01:44 PM
As I age into an old man one of my greatest decision's was to only allow sports to bring me joy. Was I angry and disappointed right after the game? Sure, but after about an hour I was over it.

And you know what, when our Katz rip off like 5 straight wins after this I'm going to be first pumping my face off until the inevitable WTF loss and then its rinse and repeat.

I'm getting there. A loss like this would have ruined several days for me just a couple years ago. Now I went out and pressure washed the patio and used my new Ryobi pole saw to trim a couple limbs, and after I was done I forgot the game had happened for like 30 minutes. But then I got sad again when I remembered.  :cry: Baby steps.
I’m pretty much there but I still get frustrated with the same stupid mistakes and/or play calls. Like, if we play good but get mushed by better players, whatevs. It does bug the crap out of me when the special teams sucks or we throw 3 yard outs on 3rd and 5. This crap just keeps happening and it doesn’t have to. Whatevs though. I hope the Dublin bros had fun.


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I find that my propensity to get irritated is directly proportional to the company I'm around when watching a game.

Example 1: when we called those two dogshit plays inside the 10 in the 2nd quarter on 3rd/4th down, after the first, I yelled, "You stupid assholes" outloud. After the second, I yelled "You god damn stupid motherfuckers" In both cases, wife/kids not at home.

Example 2: when we ran our soft, absorb contact first/get yards second QB on that 4th down play in the 4th quarter and didn't get the first down, I just shook my head. In this case, wife/kids were also watching.

Is that good/bad? I don't know. But that's where I'm at.
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: OB_Won on August 24, 2025, 12:29:42 AM
As I age into an old man one of my greatest decision's was to only allow sports to bring me joy. Was I angry and disappointed right after the game? Sure, but after about an hour I was over it.

And you know what, when our Katz rip off like 5 straight wins after this I'm going to be first pumping my face off until the inevitable WTF loss and then its rinse and repeat.
Age definitely helps, but Qats U being mostly MEH for 9 out of every 10-ish years is a pretty effective way of making me not care as much also. But, we're still blessed to have that. Many fanbases would kill for our success.
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: OB_Won on August 24, 2025, 01:03:24 AM
Pop Tart is a mediocre QB, and we will never compete for anything meaningful while he’s under center.
Reminds me of Dak Prescott. Better than most, but not elite. Looks great on occasion, sets records, but not uncommon to kill drives with bad decisions or inaccurate throws.
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 24, 2025, 01:11:20 AM
My parents where here this weekend and my dad wanted to cookout for the game. I made brunchy stuff for us on the griddle. Ms TBT came over and we all watched the game. I honestly didn’t even really watch/pay attention to the game until the 4th quarter. We all watched the last part but WELP and disappointed with the outcome.

HOWEVER, it didn’t impact us at all. We went out and enjoyed the beautiful day in south Texas. We had an amazing dinner and I didn’t even think about KSU cats football at all. I enjoyed time with the love of my life and my family.

I had like a billion group text messages and junk from people but man. Go enjoy your life, guys. Who gives a crap about this really dumb thing called football.
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: IPA4Me on August 24, 2025, 05:42:04 AM
As I age into an old man one of my greatest decision's was to only allow sports to bring me joy. Was I angry and disappointed right after the game? Sure, but after about an hour I was over it.

And you know what, when our Katz rip off like 5 straight wins after this I'm going to be first pumping my face off until the inevitable WTF loss and then its rinse and repeat.
Welcome to the old man club

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Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: EMAWzifried on August 24, 2025, 10:27:24 AM
Pop Tart is a mediocre QB, and we will never compete for anything meaningful while he’s under center.
Reminds me of Dak Prescott. Better than most, but not elite. Looks great on occasion, sets records, but not uncommon to kill drives with bad decisions or inaccurate throws.
It's amazing how we've made such an electric treat into such a mediocre runner. Becht was more a threat yesterday.
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 24, 2025, 10:38:54 AM
As I age into an old man one of my greatest decision's was to only allow sports to bring me joy. Was I angry and disappointed right after the game? Sure, but after about an hour I was over it.

And you know what, when our Katz rip off like 5 straight wins after this I'm going to be first pumping my face off until the inevitable WTF loss and then its rinse and repeat.

It's incredibly freeing

Yup.  I find myself getting more annoyed at coaches than players which is nice.  Being mad at kids was always gross.  Being mad at a guy who looks like a mole and makes millions is fine.
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: KST8FAN on August 24, 2025, 11:08:43 AM
Mexican is our victory meal routine so that was disappointing.


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Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 24, 2025, 11:12:25 AM
Pop Tart is a mediocre QB, and we will never compete for anything meaningful while he’s under center.

Breaking a 3 year posting hiatus for this, lmao.

I pick my spots

Good to have you back. 
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: Katpappy on August 24, 2025, 11:15:17 AM
Pop Tart is a mediocre QB, and we will never compete for anything meaningful while he’s under center.

I haven't heard from you in a while, but I have to disagree with your assessment.  After watching several podcasts today, none of them thought AJ did a bad job, and some thought he performed quite well.  Our OC doesn't want him to get injured because we don't have a backup that he feels can compete at AJ's level.  Also, no one had anything positive to say about OC Wells to call the plays needed to move the offense with any creativity.
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 24, 2025, 11:52:37 AM
He missed a few throws and the designed runs took way too long to get going but he was fine. 

Campbell smacked the crap out of Kleiman and now it’s to the point you can see the fear on the mole’s face when he even glimpses him.
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: goCats101 on August 24, 2025, 12:20:13 PM
Adding in some non-KSU hot takes, will see how these hold up over the season:
- ASU/Dillingham are the real deal, he’ll have them back in Arlington
- KU will exorcise the demons of last season and have a very good year (finish among Big 12 top 3)
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 24, 2025, 02:51:00 PM
I am starting to put less on our OC and more on the HC's demands on how the offense is run.

I also think CK still thinks he's at NDSU when it was '95 Nebraska Lite and he can just go for it running basic stuff with glitzy blocking schemes and the OL will just move people out of the way and it's another first down for the Bison.

I thought overall AJ was pretty decent and once again - unless our WR are wide open and the ball is thrown perfectly, they ain't catching the ball.

But back to my OP - I am putting our offensive WTF'ery on the HC until further notice.



Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: Stevesie60 on August 24, 2025, 02:55:43 PM
After our first win I can't wait to post my overreactions in the other direction.

Absolutely
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: Katpappy on August 24, 2025, 05:11:18 PM
After our first win I can't wait to post my overreactions in the other direction.

Absolutely

+1  :thumbs:
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: catastrophe on August 24, 2025, 05:37:59 PM
I like KSU as a power run game. I mean that’s exactly how ISU beat us. Losing your star RB on basically the first play does put a damper on that, though.

We had some great pass schemes when we needed them, some receivers just dropped them or the timing was slightly off, but some hit perfectly.

This team strikes me as similar to the Chiefs the last couple years. The offense may not blow out anyone but a threat to score whenever needed. That means the defense has to be elite (relative to the Big 12) to have a shot at the title.
Title: Re: 2025 - Week 0 - Overreactions
Post by: EMAWzifried on August 24, 2025, 05:50:43 PM
We apparently have a stud true freshman corner. And speaking of true freshmen, why wasn't Cure available to play? Is he injured or not on the travel roster?