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Title: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 09, 2025, 03:14:18 PM
I read the Aerizona-Texas Tech post-game thread on Reddit. Zona fans ignoring us and focused on Houston home game next Saturday. Another classic trap game.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: cfbandyman on February 11, 2025, 09:28:08 AM
We might very much lose but we're playing fantastic, wouldn't surprise me if we win by 7+ points
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Post by: Cire on February 11, 2025, 12:47:03 PM
Their metrics TERRIFY me
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: deputy dawg on February 11, 2025, 03:25:12 PM
Their metrics TERRIFY me

More ball movement than Ron Jeremy.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 11, 2025, 07:21:27 PM
Need to hit 3s.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 11, 2025, 07:33:31 PM
Back to just chucking 3s.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: michigancat on February 11, 2025, 07:41:44 PM
Dang that goaltend reversal was terrible
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: KST8FAN on February 11, 2025, 07:42:11 PM
This goal tend review at next dead ball has to change.


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Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 11, 2025, 07:42:56 PM
WTF, 2 minute delayed reversal. Please, man.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: michigancat on February 11, 2025, 07:59:33 PM
This goal tend review at next dead ball has to change.


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Yeah there should be an extra possession arrow or something.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 11, 2025, 08:06:58 PM
That was literally the most absurd call I've seen since the no-call travel at the end of the KU game.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: michigancat on February 11, 2025, 08:13:35 PM
Coleman is a really "crafty" defender. He uses his hands and influences plays in ways most people don't
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 11, 2025, 08:23:55 PM
Make 3 or 4 threes from here and we win.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 11, 2025, 08:29:35 PM
CJ, you got to make that.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 11, 2025, 08:57:33 PM
Offense has just stalled. And they are in the bonus. Not good.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: kstater on February 11, 2025, 08:58:01 PM
That was literally the most absurd call I've seen since the no-call travel at the end of the KU game.
But wait there's more!

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Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: michigancat on February 11, 2025, 09:03:05 PM
I love the way Dug plays so much (when he's on)
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: ChiComCat on February 11, 2025, 09:08:05 PM
Arizona’s head coach looks like he should coach at Iowa State
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Post by: wetwillie on February 11, 2025, 09:11:15 PM
We are really rough ridin' good
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: michigancat on February 11, 2025, 09:11:35 PM
Arizona’s head coach looks like he should coach at Iowa State
Ha ha I just texted my daughter that he's a generic ass head coach. The ISU guy at last has his right shirts and a worse than normal attitude
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: michigancat on February 11, 2025, 09:12:59 PM
And imo the difference is Dug deciding he should be a primary scorer and not deferring to Hawkins playing with his back to the basket 25 feet away. (Shoutout clams)
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: michigancat on February 11, 2025, 09:14:54 PM
We might lose! Shoot!
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: michigancat on February 11, 2025, 09:18:12 PM
Is Tang a foul up 3 guy?
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: michigancat on February 11, 2025, 09:22:24 PM
Sheesh what a silly run
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: I_have_purplewood on February 11, 2025, 09:24:56 PM
Couldn't watch but we were 1-19 from 3?  If so, that is insane.
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Post by: mocat on February 11, 2025, 09:25:15 PM
What a win, really
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: KST8FAN on February 11, 2025, 09:25:28 PM
Did we escape with a missed over and back or did he need to dribble to establish possession in front court?


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Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: KST8FAN on February 11, 2025, 09:26:22 PM
Dug's bank shot game is the GOAT.


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Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: CHONGS on February 11, 2025, 09:28:30 PM
Guys I think we might just do this
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: michigancat on February 11, 2025, 09:28:38 PM
Did we escape with a missed over and back or did he need to dribble to establish possession in front court?


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I think he caught it across the line but I don't fully understand the rule

Regardless we deserved a full bucket that we were robbed of
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: Tobias on February 11, 2025, 09:30:12 PM
i hope they're melting down about that (i 100% of the time have the rule wrong)
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: CNS on February 11, 2025, 09:32:53 PM
I guess we should probably just win out.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: wetwillie on February 11, 2025, 09:34:09 PM
I'm sure some of our elite 8 teams went on a heater like this but damn we are lava hot
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: CNS on February 11, 2025, 09:35:51 PM
We look steady, reliable, capable, and confident. This team is fun basketball. 
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: mocat on February 11, 2025, 09:38:05 PM
I guess we should probably just win out.
I can't even describe to you how confident I am that we will lose the next 2
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: catastrophe on February 11, 2025, 09:43:25 PM
It seems like Tang decided to just practice winning the Big 12 Tournament without realizing it might get us in the old fashioned way if we keep it going.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: michigancat on February 11, 2025, 09:47:04 PM
I guess we should probably just win out.
I can't even describe to you how confident I am that we will lose the next 2
Lol yes
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: pissclams on February 11, 2025, 09:57:35 PM
Did we escape with a missed over and back or did he need to dribble to establish possession in front court?


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the position of the ball determines backcourt, not the player
it looked to be the right call
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: pissclams on February 11, 2025, 09:58:15 PM
And imo the difference is Dug deciding he should be a primary scorer and not deferring to Hawkins playing with his back to the basket 25 feet away. (Shoutout clams)
i think it’s tang that made that decision, not dug
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: michigancat on February 11, 2025, 10:01:17 PM


And imo the difference is Dug deciding he should be a primary scorer and not deferring to Hawkins playing with his back to the basket 25 feet away. (Shoutout clams)
i think it’s tang that made that decision, not dug

Fair enough. Would love to see how his usage has changed over the course of the season
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: pissclams on February 11, 2025, 10:16:05 PM
he is such a hard match up, like it’s really difficult to contain him.  he can take anyone that’s not named gary “the glove” payton off the dribble. 

i hope he can see a future here and spend the summer working on his perimeter shooting. 
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 11, 2025, 10:29:14 PM
That was just a wild and fun win. Three weren't falling and couldn't close it out at the line, but just brought it home wiht grand larceny from Dug, Mobi and the quick hands boys. Just big entertainment.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: DQ12 on February 11, 2025, 10:50:50 PM
I love this team
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: Cire on February 11, 2025, 11:59:17 PM
Mobi is a Jamar Samuel’s Dominique Sutton hybrid


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Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: wetwillie on February 12, 2025, 06:19:23 AM
I went back and looked. This is the longest winning streak in conference for a KSU MBB hoops team since 2012-2013.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: CNS on February 12, 2025, 06:57:55 AM
I went back and looked. This is the longest winning streak in conference for a KSU MBB hoops team since 2012-2013.


Wyatt said a 6 game conf win streak has only happened 6 times for us:  frank twice, oscar twice, and tang twice.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: wetwillie on February 12, 2025, 07:05:56 AM
I went back and looked. This is the longest winning streak in conference for a KSU MBB hoops team since 2012-2013.


Wyatt said a 6 game conf win streak has only happened 6 times for us:  frank twice, oscar twice, and tang twice.

I don't blame him for being so wrong, he's getting up in years.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: CNS on February 12, 2025, 07:23:48 AM
It at least sounds interesting.  Wyatt is the biggest hype man for whoever is doing the thing right now.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: cfbandyman on February 12, 2025, 07:32:44 AM
Really glad we won, they are so hot

I guess we should probably just win out.
I can't even describe to you how confident I am that we will lose the next 2

I am hoping they win 1 of them lol
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: XocolateThundarr on February 12, 2025, 08:16:14 AM
I'd say the Tang mix is finally dialed in.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: Daddy Claxton on February 12, 2025, 08:59:20 AM
Did we escape with a missed over and back or did he need to dribble to establish possession in front court?


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https://videorulebook.nba.com/archive/backcourt-violation-ball-is-passed-from-frontcourt-to-player-with-backcourt-status/
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 12, 2025, 09:37:24 AM
I hate that the thing that I'm commenting on first is negative because that was so fun, but how the hell did they overturn that goal tending? It's especially bullshit since we got the rebound and scored before they blew the whistle.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 12, 2025, 11:43:01 AM
Did we escape with a missed over and back or did he need to dribble to establish possession in front court?


Tom

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https://videorulebook.nba.com/archive/backcourt-violation-ball-is-passed-from-frontcourt-to-player-with-backcourt-status/

I do not believe the scenario shown is applicable to the situation last night.

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Post by: KST8FAN on February 12, 2025, 12:04:09 PM
I need to find the video.  I have a 30-year veteran official reviewing it for us.

I know from my coaching days before there is a back court violation the player and the ball have to be established in front court. 

The classic scenario is a player dribbling steps one foot in front court while the ball and his other foot are still in back court.  Then, fans and some coaches lose their crap when his front court foot comes back to back court.  It's not over and back because both feet and the ball never got establish in front court.

I am reading a ball played in from out of bounds has no front or back court status, but I can't find what makes the ball status change.

Last night the ball was thrown in by Arizona from the baseline, caught by a Cat who clearly had both feet in front court then passed to a player clearly in the back court.


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Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: Daddy Claxton on February 12, 2025, 01:03:18 PM
What i saw was Dug catching the ball and establishing possession with both feet in the front court. Then he threw it to Max who was established in the backcourt and Max caught it before he was established in the front court. Backcourt violation.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: KST8FAN on February 12, 2025, 02:32:11 PM
What i saw was Dug catching the ball and establishing possession with both feet in the front court. Then he threw it to Max who was established in the backcourt and Max caught it before he was established in the front court. Backcourt violation.
Agree.  It seemed like a no brainer call.


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Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: CHONGS on February 12, 2025, 05:11:25 PM
Hey squawks why don't you two go take a long hike off of a short pier.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 12, 2025, 05:26:20 PM
I need to find the video.  I have a 30-year veteran official reviewing it for us.

I know from my coaching days before there is a back court violation the player and the ball have to be established in front court. 

The classic scenario is a player dribbling steps one foot in front court while the ball and his other foot are still in back court.  Then, fans and some coaches lose their crap when his front court foot comes back to back court.  It's not over and back because both feet and the ball never got establish in front court.

I am reading a ball played in from out of bounds has no front or back court status, but I can't find what makes the ball status change.

Last night the ball was thrown in by Arizona from the baseline, caught by a Cat who clearly had both feet in front court then passed to a player clearly in the back court.


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The player was not established in the front court, but the ball never entered the back court.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: schreds21 on February 12, 2025, 08:06:04 PM
What I saw was the KSU Kats beating Arizona Cats asses even after getting 4 points taken off the board by the dumbass refs so who gives a crap if they blew an over and back call in KSU Kats favor!
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 12, 2025, 10:03:13 PM
Hey squawks why don't you two go take a long hike off of a short pier.

lol
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 14, 2025, 02:03:44 PM
Has there ever been a guard better than Dug McDaniel at using the backboard?
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: michigancat on February 14, 2025, 05:17:57 PM
Has there ever been a guard better than Dug McDaniel at using the backboard?
Nope. Especially when only touching it with one hand!
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: mocat on February 18, 2025, 09:30:42 AM
I guess we should probably just win out.
I can't even describe to you how confident I am that we will lose the next 2
Lol yes

alright now back to work. 4-1 finish down the stretch coming right up!
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 18, 2025, 10:27:54 AM
I guess we should probably just win out.
I can't even describe to you how confident I am that we will lose the next 2
Lol yes

alright now back to work. 4-1 finish down the stretch coming right up!
Could still make it in with 18 or 19 wins, right?
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 18, 2025, 12:32:41 PM
No more regular season lossess and two or three wins in KC, and maybe.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: ChiComCat on February 18, 2025, 12:41:09 PM
A win out and one in KC would make me confident.  We have some very nice wins, just need to stack some more of them.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: Kid In the Hall on February 18, 2025, 12:57:25 PM
Prior to last night's game, the announcers were viewing it as a must win, but Lunardi disagreed and said a win would "keep K-State on the path of making the tourney"

I interpret that to mean that if we win out in the regular season and snag 1-2 wins in the Big 12 tourney, we'd be more likely than not to be in.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: cfbandyman on February 18, 2025, 01:01:32 PM
Yeah, I felt winning either game basically slightly helps us, winning both would've been huge, losing both slightly hurts. Definitely gotta win out or at least be 4-1. Then probably 1 maybe 2 in KC.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: wetwillie on February 18, 2025, 06:14:46 PM
No at large team in the last three years has received a bid with more than 14 total losses. If you view 14 losses as the max, you have to go 5-0 down the stretch or win the B12 tournament.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: CNS on February 18, 2025, 06:42:19 PM
I think if we win out the season, we are in.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: meow meow on February 19, 2025, 10:32:22 AM
i like how people are seriously talking about going 5-0 after these last 2 games.  equally as funny as the people talking about the 9 different things that needed to happen the last week or 2 of football for the cats to get in the big 12 title game.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: pissclams on February 19, 2025, 10:51:56 AM
most likely: beat arizona st, ucf, and colorado at home. lose at cinci and lose at home against iowa state

finish season at 16-15, 10-10
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: pissclams on February 19, 2025, 10:54:09 AM
next most likely: beat iowa state and cincinnati

lose to: colorado, arizona state, ucf
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: CNS on February 19, 2025, 01:37:43 PM
i like how people are seriously talking about going 5-0 after these last 2 games.  equally as funny as the people talking about the 9 different things that needed to happen the last week or 2 of football for the cats to get in the big 12 title game.


Whoa whoa, not saying I think we are winning out. Saying that if we do so, I think we make the tournament.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: ChiComCat on February 19, 2025, 01:43:04 PM
i like how people are seriously talking about going 5-0 after these last 2 games.  equally as funny as the people talking about the 9 different things that needed to happen the last week or 2 of football for the cats to get in the big 12 title game.


Whoa whoa, not saying I think we are winning out. Saying that if we do so, I think we make the tournament.

Agreed. I don't think anybody expects it, just stating what they believe is required.  I expect 3-2 followed by an optimistic 2-1 in the B12 followed by K-State trying to tell everyone we somehow got screwed when we're left out.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: wetwillie on February 19, 2025, 01:58:08 PM
If we lose 3 more games we fa sho ain't getting in.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on February 19, 2025, 02:03:52 PM
Guys, we just go on a 7 game losing streak.  Now hear me out, but then starting with the Big 12 tournament we go on a 7 game winning streak.  That sounds pretty good to me.  Then Regular season means nothing.
Title: Re: Pseudo Wildcats next to get what's cooking
Post by: cfbandyman on February 19, 2025, 04:20:13 PM
Guys, we just go on a 7 game losing streak.  Now hear me out, but then starting with the Big 12 tournament we go on a 7 game winning streak.  That sounds pretty good to me.  Then Regular season means nothing.

Make it a 10 game winning streak and you got a deal.