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Title: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 10:04:32 PM
Since I'm dooming right now I might as well ask what I'm really scared about.   I am really terrified he's going to leave after this year and then we'll be pretty mumped.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 16, 2024, 10:09:36 PM
May have to give him a purple Porsche. 
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: tdaver on November 16, 2024, 10:10:00 PM
Doesn’t really matter if the coaching doesn’t change
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: 06wildcat on November 16, 2024, 10:16:16 PM
Do you think he's getting a better NIL deal somewhere better? He's got talent, but also has a habit of very low fbiq play
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 10:19:26 PM
I have no doubt he could get a better NIL deal somewhere and connect with a program known for getting QBs in the league.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: star seed 7 on November 16, 2024, 11:07:44 PM
I think he probably will
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: CHONGS on November 16, 2024, 11:11:21 PM
Thank you. That made me feel better.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: Benja on November 17, 2024, 12:47:04 AM
Yes. But if we mess around too much coaching and scheme-wise next year, he’ll leave. We really should see some new concepts installed this year for him, but regardless, next year needs to look a lot different.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: wetwillie on November 17, 2024, 06:24:02 AM
I'm leaning towards no
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: michigancat on November 17, 2024, 06:49:56 AM
I said this when we hired Wells, but Avery should get to choose who our OC is next season
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: nicname on November 17, 2024, 08:44:26 AM
I said this when we hired Wells, but Avery should get to choose who our OC is next season

Players choosing coordinators seems like a poor recipe for success. Jmo
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: michigancat on November 17, 2024, 08:52:16 AM
I said this when we hired Wells, but Avery should get to choose who our OC is next season

Players choosing coordinators seems like a poor recipe for success. Jmo

Not just any player, the best, most important player by far

And I'm being a bit outlandish (obviously he can't run a search) but in all seriousness he deserves a say. Like in practice he could meet with the final three candidates and say which one he preferred and why to Klieman.


Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: ELL3 on November 17, 2024, 10:31:39 AM
I think it's safe to assume Klieman is not getting poached this offseason as seems to be the rumor every year. He's acting weirdly reflective and emotional after every game. Is he even continuing to coach or will we have flight trackers in a few weeks?
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: Benja on November 17, 2024, 12:06:33 PM
I think it's safe to assume Klieman is not getting poached this offseason as seems to be the rumor every year. He's acting weirdly reflective and emotional after every game. Is he even continuing to coach or will we have flight trackers in a few weeks?

I mean, he was practically tearing up during the postgame, and seemed exhausted.

Btw, these last couple weeks would have been a great time for the whole player ownership thing to kick in.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: MakeItRain on November 17, 2024, 06:15:40 PM
I'm leaning towards no

Why are we doing this?
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: MakeItRain on November 17, 2024, 06:17:33 PM
I said this when we hired Wells, but Avery should get to choose who our OC is next season

That's what the pop tarts bowl was for.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: michigancat on November 17, 2024, 06:19:19 PM
I said this when we hired Wells, but Avery should get to choose who our OC is next season

That's what the pop tarts bowl was for.

who was the qb coach?
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: wetwillie on November 17, 2024, 06:32:11 PM
I'm leaning towards no

Why are we doing this?


Giving our opinions to the thread title?
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: MakeItRain on November 17, 2024, 08:06:05 PM
I said this when we hired Wells, but Avery should get to choose who our OC is next season

That's what the pop tarts bowl was for.

who was the qb coach?

Are we asking that now because the question up there is about the OC? They were pretty explicit about the bowl game being a dress rehearsal for Klanderman. Avery not leaving after Klein did was a pretty good indication that he was happy with the choice.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: meow meow on November 18, 2024, 08:15:55 AM
Klanderman is calling offensive plays?  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: MakeItRain on November 18, 2024, 11:15:08 AM
lol, Riley, you know what I meant!
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: michigancat on November 18, 2024, 11:59:03 AM
If you showed me a picture of both Riley and Klanderman, I'm not sure I'd guess which one is which
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: pissclams on November 18, 2024, 12:15:22 PM
If you showed me a picture of both Riley and Klanderman, I'm not sure I'd guess which one is which
riley looks as plain as the plays he calls
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: MakeItRain on November 18, 2024, 12:23:47 PM
If you showed me a picture of both Riley and Klanderman, I'm not sure I'd guess which one is which

Riley definitely does not look like an offensive line coach. He must be a very disciplined dude to get as fit as he is after his playing days. He also got accepted to the Air Force Academy, so he must also be very studious.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: chum1 on November 18, 2024, 01:20:13 PM
I am way more concerned about whether or not the lynch mob will be back next year than I am about Avery. Like, by A LOT.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 18, 2024, 02:48:01 PM
https://x.com/KellisRobinett/status/1858582238277083406
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: DQ12 on November 18, 2024, 02:50:54 PM
I have no doubt he could get a better NIL deal somewhere and connect with a program known for getting QBs in the league.
To be fair, Klieman has a remarkably good track record of getting QBs to the league. 

Easton Stick
Carson Wentz
Trey Lance (i don't care that Lance didn't start until after Klieman left.  he recruited him so he gets to claim him for the purposes of this post)
Skylar
He'll add another to his pelt next year when Howard gets drafted.

Hell, Adrian Martinez is on a practice squad and was UFL MVP.  Any QB Klieman touches seemingly (eventually) turns to gold.  Very, very good track record if you're a quarterback who wants to play professionally.  There's not many coaches who have a better batting average with quarterbacks getting to the NFL.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: Kid In the Hall on November 18, 2024, 04:11:35 PM
I have no doubt he could get a better NIL deal somewhere and connect with a program known for getting QBs in the league.
To be fair, Klieman has a remarkably good track record of getting QBs to the league. 

Easton Stick
Carson Wentz
Trey Lance (i don't care that Lance didn't start until after Klieman left.  he recruited him so he gets to claim him for the purposes of this post)
Skylar
He'll add another to his pelt next year when Howard gets drafted.

Hell, Adrian Martinez is on a practice squad and was UFL MVP.  Any QB Klieman touches seemingly (eventually) turns to gold.  Very, very good track record if you're a quarterback who wants to play professionally.  There's not many coaches who have a better batting average with quarterbacks getting to the NFL.

Very few programs - even among the blue bloods - that can say they've placed every starting QB they've had in the NFL over the course of nearly a decade.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: wetwillie on November 18, 2024, 05:51:55 PM
Will Howard was not a draftable QB when he left here after 4 years.  Also LAWL at counting Adrian Martinez. The string of QB's at NDSU is nothing short of incredible, that's amazing.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: catastrophe on November 18, 2024, 06:20:32 PM
Will Howard was not a draftable QB when he left here after 4 years.  Also LAWL at counting Adrian Martinez. The string of QB's at NDSU is nothing short of incredible, that's amazing.
In what way was he not draftable? I’d argue anyone who can transfer and immediately start at a top 5 program very likely has the profile of an NFL QB unless they’re injury prone or undersized, neither of which applies to Will.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: wetwillie on November 18, 2024, 06:34:32 PM
Will Howard was not a draftable QB when he left here after 4 years.  Also LAWL at counting Adrian Martinez. The string of QB's at NDSU is nothing short of incredible, that's amazing.
In what way was he not draftable? I’d argue anyone who can transfer and immediately start at a top 5 program very likely has the profile of an NFL QB unless they’re injury prone or undersized, neither of which applies to Will.


In the way he wasn't going to get drafted in the 2024 NFL draft.  Same way Dillon Gabriel (QB of the #1 ranked team in CFB) wasn't going to get drafted.

Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: CHONGS on November 18, 2024, 06:39:01 PM
I have no doubt he could get a better NIL deal somewhere and connect with a program known for getting QBs in the league.
To be fair, Klieman has a remarkably good track record of getting QBs to the league. 

Easton Stick
Carson Wentz
Trey Lance (i don't care that Lance didn't start until after Klieman left.  he recruited him so he gets to claim him for the purposes of this post)
Skylar
He'll add another to his pelt next year when Howard gets drafted.

Hell, Adrian Martinez is on a practice squad and was UFL MVP.  Any QB Klieman touches seemingly (eventually) turns to gold.  Very, very good track record if you're a quarterback who wants to play professionally.  There's not many coaches who have a better batting average with quarterbacks getting to the NFL.
Yeah I didn't really mean it as a dig at Klieman, it's just that the big schools in the Big 10 and SEC will get him the exposure and access to talent that will raise his draft status. I'm sure his aspirations are to get drafted on the first day, and that's really not what KSU historically provides.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: wetwillie on November 18, 2024, 06:47:03 PM
https://x.com/KellisRobinett/status/1858582238277083406

Man the turmoil is palpable in this program right now. This is a bad look.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on November 18, 2024, 08:15:18 PM
They should let Avery call his own plays against Cincy.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: Kid In the Hall on November 18, 2024, 08:29:32 PM
Will Howard was not a draftable QB when he left here after 4 years.  Also LAWL at counting Adrian Martinez. The string of QB's at NDSU is nothing short of incredible, that's amazing.

You can LAWL all you want, but the fact of the matter is, when Howard's on an NFL practice squad next year, this coaching staff can walk in any kid's family room and say every single one of their last six starting QBs covering nearly a decade is playing in the NFL.

Again, there aren't a whole lot of schools that can say that (Michigan can't say that, Texas can't say that, Alabama can only say that for one year beyond this staff, etc.). And, presumably, that's a big selling point for them.

And, while Howard probably wouldn't have been drafted last year, he would have signed a free agent contract somewhere.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: wetwillie on November 18, 2024, 09:18:33 PM
"If your kid has dreams of playing on an NFL practice squad, come to KSU!"

:lol:
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: Pete on November 18, 2024, 09:41:51 PM
https://x.com/KellisRobinett/status/1858582238277083406
Now that we are out of contention for the Big 12 we try and do what it takes to win?
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: MakeItRain on November 18, 2024, 10:18:07 PM
Will Howard was not a draftable QB when he left here after 4 years.  Also LAWL at counting Adrian Martinez. The string of QB's at NDSU is nothing short of incredible, that's amazing.

eff you taking about man, he got a draft grade? I heard the senior bowl guy talk about selecting Will for that game before he even left here
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: MakeItRain on November 18, 2024, 10:18:55 PM
https://x.com/KellisRobinett/status/1858582238277083406

Man the turmoil is palpable in this program right now. This is a bad look.

Why is it a bad look? You're overreacting like crazy.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: Kid In the Hall on November 18, 2024, 10:24:08 PM
"If your kid has dreams of playing on an NFL practice squad, come to KSU!"

:lol:

It's really not hard to comprehend (not least of which because LHC Bill Snyder's staff placed two QBs in the NFL in nearly 30 years).

In the era of NIL where 5-star kids stay at a school for one year and then transfer because they're behind another 5-star kid, this staff is ahead of 90% of D1 staffs in the country when it comes to putting kids in the NFL - and they've done it with largely unheralded recruits.

Will be interesting to see if/how Klieman dips into the QB portal market after AJ (assuming he's still here).
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: MakeItRain on November 18, 2024, 10:28:33 PM
"If your kid has dreams of playing on an NFL practice squad, come to KSU!"

:lol:

It's really not hard to comprehend (not least of which because LHC Bill Snyder's staff placed two QBs in the NFL in nearly 30 years).

In the era of NIL where 5-star kids stay at a school for one year and then transfer because they're behind another 5-star kid, this staff is ahead of 90% of D1 staffs in the country when it comes to putting kids in the NFL - and they've done it with largely unheralded recruits.

Will be interesting to see if/how Klieman dips into the QB portal market after AJ (assuming he's still here).

If he does, you have to think that Knuth and or Barnett is going to bounce.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: wetwillie on November 18, 2024, 10:28:51 PM
Will Howard was not a draftable QB when he left here after 4 years.  Also LAWL at counting Adrian Martinez. The string of QB's at NDSU is nothing short of incredible, that's amazing.

eff you taking about man, he got a draft grade? I heard the senior bowl guy talk about selecting Will for that game before he even left here

lol
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: CNS on November 19, 2024, 06:38:51 AM
Watching Will a couple times this year, he isn’t an upgraded Will. He just has Ohio State around him. Otherwise seems to be our Will still.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: catastrophe on November 19, 2024, 08:46:42 AM
Watching Will a couple times this year, he isn’t an upgraded Will. He just has Ohio State around him. Otherwise seems to be our Will still.
Yeah I don’t understand what wetwillie is implying cause if Will is draftable this year it’s cause he was draftable last year. tOSU isn’t coaching him up, they’re just letting him play with a great supporting cast cause he developed into a really solid QB at Cats U.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: deputy dawg on November 19, 2024, 08:53:33 AM
Watching Will a couple times this year, he isn’t an upgraded Will. He just has Ohio State around him. Otherwise seems to be our Will still.
Yeah I don’t understand what wetwillie is implying cause if Will is draftable this year it’s cause he was draftable last year. tOSU isn’t coaching him up, they’re just letting him play with a great supporting cast cause he developed into a really solid QB at Cats U.

Pffft, I read where Howard articulated a "big difference" between K-State and tOSU is that tOSU encouraged him to release his passes more quickly and to not go so far in his progressions.  Pretty profound stuff if you ask me.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: CNS on November 19, 2024, 09:10:28 AM
Watching Will a couple times this year, he isn’t an upgraded Will. He just has Ohio State around him. Otherwise seems to be our Will still.
Yeah I don’t understand what wetwillie is implying cause if Will is draftable this year it’s cause he was draftable last year. tOSU isn’t coaching him up, they’re just letting him play with a great supporting cast cause he developed into a really solid QB at Cats U.

Pffft, I read where Howard articulated a "big difference" between K-State and tOSU is that tOSU encouraged him to release his passes more quickly and to not go so far in his progressions.  Pretty profound stuff if you ask me.

This is why Klieman is not a good QB coach. 
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: wetwillie on November 19, 2024, 01:46:00 PM
Watching Will a couple times this year, he isn’t an upgraded Will. He just has Ohio State around him. Otherwise seems to be our Will still.
Yeah I don’t understand what wetwillie is implying cause if Will is draftable this year it’s cause he was draftable last year. tOSU isn’t coaching him up, they’re just letting him play with a great supporting cast cause he developed into a really solid QB at Cats U.

He's still not going to get drafted, he's not a top 10 or probably even top 15 qb in this draft class. Hes a really good college QB, and has maximized his ability imo and got paid a nice sum to be tOSU's qb this year.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: Kid In the Hall on November 19, 2024, 02:06:52 PM
"If your kid has dreams of playing on an NFL practice squad, come to KSU!"

:lol:

It's really not hard to comprehend (not least of which because LHC LHC Bill Snyder's staff placed two QBs in the NFL in nearly 30 years).

In the era of NIL where 5-star kids stay at a school for one year and then transfer because they're behind another 5-star kid, this staff is ahead of 90% of D1 staffs in the country when it comes to putting kids in the NFL - and they've done it with largely unheralded recruits.

Will be interesting to see if/how Klieman dips into the QB portal market after AJ (assuming he's still here).

If he does, you have to think that Knuth and or Barnett is going to bounce.

I cynically just assume this will be more the norm rather than the exception moving forward for most programs at the QB spot.

If you look at ESPN's QBR rankings this year, of the top 20 QBs, 13 have transferred at least once. Of the seven who haven't, three are freshmen, which just leaves Milroe, Allar, Beck and Klubnik as the only non-freshmen who haven't transferred (I also omitted the Army and Navy QBs from this because that's a completely different dealio).
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: chum1 on November 19, 2024, 02:11:42 PM
What if Avery joined the Lynch Mob before next year?
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: catastrophe on November 19, 2024, 03:06:12 PM
Watching Will a couple times this year, he isn’t an upgraded Will. He just has Ohio State around him. Otherwise seems to be our Will still.
Yeah I don’t understand what wetwillie is implying cause if Will is draftable this year it’s cause he was draftable last year. tOSU isn’t coaching him up, they’re just letting him play with a great supporting cast cause he developed into a really solid QB at Cats U.

He's still not going to get drafted, he's not a top 10 or probably even top 15 qb in this draft class. Hes a really good college QB, and has maximized his ability imo and got paid a nice sum to be tOSU's qb this year.
Ok well that makes a lot more sense. Just seemed odd to qualify that statement in terms of “last year” unless your point was that class was also full of superior QBs.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: MakeItRain on November 19, 2024, 03:19:45 PM
Watching Will a couple times this year, he isn’t an upgraded Will. He just has Ohio State around him. Otherwise seems to be our Will still.
Yeah I don’t understand what wetwillie is implying cause if Will is draftable this year it’s cause he was draftable last year. tOSU isn’t coaching him up, they’re just letting him play with a great supporting cast cause he developed into a really solid QB at Cats U.

He's still not going to get drafted, he's not a top 10 or probably even top 15 qb in this draft class. Hes a really good college QB, and has maximized his ability imo and got paid a nice sum to be tOSU's qb this year.
Ok well that makes a lot more sense. Just seemed odd to qualify that statement in terms of “last year” unless your point was that class was also full of superior QBs.

Last year was a terrible draft class and he was going to get drafted or be a PFA signing. It was still a great business decision for him to transfer, and collect a NIL check. He's extremely likely to make more this season than he will next year, whether he gets drafted or not, and unlike running backs, another year of playing college won't have an adverse effect on his draft stock.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: pissclams on November 19, 2024, 10:17:16 PM
if avery joins the lynch mob, a defensive minded organization, do his teammates on the offensive side of the ball feel slighted and somewhat hurt?
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: star seed 7 on November 19, 2024, 10:45:47 PM
What if everyone switches sides?
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: wetwillie on November 20, 2024, 06:20:56 AM
That's a fun thought. Who would win if our team played each other but had to play opposite side of the ball?
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: chum1 on November 20, 2024, 07:45:37 AM
Why can't all of the players from the offense be in the Lynch Mob? Unless they don't want to be, of course.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: MakeItRain on November 20, 2024, 11:48:33 AM
That's a fun thought. Who would win if our team played each other but had to play opposite side of the ball?

You'd have to think that defense playing offense would be better on like every team. Where are you putting a QB on defense? Could you imagine receivers playing safety? Dylan Edwards at linebacker? Oof. I'm trusting VJ Payne at any skill position before Jayce Brown playing defense for a single second. Most defensive players were very good offensive players in high school.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: DQ12 on November 20, 2024, 12:57:29 PM
Watching Will a couple times this year, he isn’t an upgraded Will. He just has Ohio State around him. Otherwise seems to be our Will still.
Yeah I don’t understand what wetwillie is implying cause if Will is draftable this year it’s cause he was draftable last year. tOSU isn’t coaching him up, they’re just letting him play with a great supporting cast cause he developed into a really solid QB at Cats U.

Pffft, I read where Howard articulated a "big difference" between K-State and tOSU is that tOSU encouraged him to release his passes more quickly and to not go so far in his progressions.  Pretty profound stuff if you ask me.
That's interesting.  I feel avery has kind of the opposite problem this year -- i think he's too quick to dump it short.  Though it's hard to tell whether that's the designed play or if his immediate instinct is to throw it to DJamer or a TE in the flat.
Title: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: pissclams on November 20, 2024, 07:23:56 PM
there’s a strong possibility that we’ve been so focused on fire that we’ve taken our eyes off of ice

if there’s any chance of invigorating the players focus on ice, i think klieman needs to make sure as hell that it happens.  otherwise, what’s next?
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: Spracne on November 20, 2024, 07:58:00 PM
there’s a strong possibility that we’ve been so focused on fire that we’ve taken our eyes off of ice

if there’s any chance of invigorating the players focus on ice, i think klieman needs to make sure as hell that it happens.  otherwise, what’s next?

Fire and ice in balance make water. The return of JW?
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: CNS on November 20, 2024, 08:24:38 PM
It’s late November. We are going to have ice in spades any day now.

Legit question:  do you think climate change is hurting the cats by delaying ice further every season?
We can build facilities to help if that is the case. There is an ice rink 10min from my front door that is open all summer. It’s doable, Gene.
Title: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: pissclams on November 20, 2024, 08:48:56 PM
it’s now clear that ice is the answer, the only question is how much ice is too much?
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: wetwillie on November 20, 2024, 08:54:43 PM
Ice cold!
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: PandaXpanda on November 20, 2024, 09:28:20 PM
the sun is shining, but the ice is still slippery

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Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: bananaeater on November 21, 2024, 01:18:32 AM
Ice cold!

I read this like it was being sung by Outkast in Hey Ya and I sure hope that is how it was intended. 
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: DaBigTrain on November 30, 2024, 10:13:21 PM
I hope not.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: Hurricane Cat on November 30, 2024, 10:17:58 PM
Ice cold!

I read this like it was being sung by Outkast in Hey Ya and I sure hope that is how it was intended.

 :love:
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: waks on November 30, 2024, 10:20:11 PM
I hope not.
Dumb. Remove the safety and the fumble that wasn't a fumble and he had a better game than ISU's QB
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: goCats101 on November 30, 2024, 10:20:35 PM
Probably find a way to lose at least 4 games next year regardless of who our QB is.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: I_have_purplewood on November 30, 2024, 10:32:29 PM
Are we lucky that he's not able to say, "Damn, look at what Howard did this year and now he's in the playoff's"?   :buh-bye: (ftp://:buh-bye:)
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: CHONGS on November 30, 2024, 10:33:48 PM
What are you talking about? Ohio State will be in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: Skipper44 on November 30, 2024, 10:34:44 PM
lol, i was going to post "at least tOSU won't be bidding tor Avery"
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: CHONGS on November 30, 2024, 10:37:57 PM
I mean if he was looking, you'd be a fool of a head coach not to go hard after Avery.  Every school in the Big Ten and SEC would love to have him.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: michigancat on November 30, 2024, 10:39:27 PM
I bet the NIL money plus the long term track record Kleiman has with QBs keeps him here

Might need some portal receivers and linemen though
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: I_have_purplewood on November 30, 2024, 10:44:03 PM
What are you talking about? Ohio State will be in the playoffs.

I suppose you're right but everyone hates your guts regardless.  Ryan Day might get fired for winning 10 games again and losing to Michigan again.  At least here most people will just shrug their shoulders and pat you on the back for winning 8 games.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: Benja on November 30, 2024, 10:45:43 PM
AJ will still be here. At least some of this staff will not. (Unless we have worse problems than I think).
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: Benja on November 30, 2024, 10:46:38 PM
What are you talking about? Ohio State will be in the playoffs.

I suppose you're right but everyone hates your guts regardless.  Ryan Day might get fired for winning 10 games again and losing to Michigan again.  At least here most people will just shrug their shoulders and pat you on the back for winning 8 games.

You suppose? Obvs bucks are still in. Wouldn't count them out for the natty.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: EMAWzifried on November 30, 2024, 10:59:58 PM
Honestly, there's no top program going to give him the keys at this point in his development. He's not to the level Howaffrd was a year ago where he could entertain offers from multiple top-10 programs. He's stuck with us and we're stuck with him. Maybe after next year he'll be coveted.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: waks on November 30, 2024, 11:51:24 PM
A lot of dumbasses outing themselves regarding Avery. Kid is a stud that hasn't been flawless because he is a rough ridin' sophomore.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: DaBigTrain on December 01, 2024, 12:28:35 AM
A lot of dumbasses outing themselves regarding Avery. Kid is a stud that hasn't been flawless because he is a rough ridin' sophomore.
Who is driving a purple corvette in front of our fat faces like he is flawless.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: waks on December 01, 2024, 01:19:32 AM
A lot of dumbasses outing themselves regarding Avery. Kid is a stud that hasn't been flawless because he is a rough ridin' sophomore.
Who is driving a purple corvette in front of our fat faces like he is flawless.
he threw for 200+ yds and three touchdowns tonight.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: MakeItRain on December 01, 2024, 02:36:36 AM
A lot of dumbasses outing themselves regarding Avery. Kid is a stud that hasn't been flawless because he is a rough ridin' sophomore.
Who is driving a purple corvette in front of our fat faces like he is flawless.

That sounds like a you problem
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 01, 2024, 08:40:34 AM
A lot of dumbasses outing themselves regarding Avery. Kid is a stud that hasn't been flawless because he is a rough ridin' sophomore.
Who is driving a purple corvette in front of our fat faces like he is flawless.

You might need to stop watching college sports.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: PurpleOil on December 01, 2024, 08:58:27 AM
A lot of dumbasses outing themselves regarding Avery. Kid is a stud that hasn't been flawless because he is a rough ridin' sophomore.
Who is driving a purple corvette in front of our fat faces like he is flawless.
he threw for 200+ yds and three touchdowns tonight.

While also causing a game changing fumble (that wasn't a fumble) and running backwards for 20 yards to get a safety grade school style.

I don't see Avery as big of a problem as some of you because of who is currently calling his plays.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: waks on December 01, 2024, 10:10:13 AM
A lot of dumbasses outing themselves regarding Avery. Kid is a stud that hasn't been flawless because he is a rough ridin' sophomore.
Who is driving a purple corvette in front of our fat faces like he is flawless.
he threw for 200+ yds and three touchdowns tonight.

While also causing a game changing fumble (that wasn't a fumble) and running backwards for 20 yards to get a safety grade school style.

I don't see Avery as big of a problem as some of you because of who is currently calling his plays.
The fumble was Edwards's fault. The safety was obviously his. You are correct about the playcalling.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: MakeItRain on December 01, 2024, 11:51:02 AM
A lot of dumbasses outing themselves regarding Avery. Kid is a stud that hasn't been flawless because he is a rough ridin' sophomore.
Who is driving a purple corvette in front of our fat faces like he is flawless.
he threw for 200+ yds and three touchdowns tonight.

While also causing a game changing fumble (that wasn't a fumble) and running backwards for 20 yards to get a safety grade school style.

I don't see Avery as big of a problem as some of you because of who is currently calling his plays.

In no way, shape, or form, can the first play of the game be game changing, unless that first play sees your starting quarterback getting knocked out. We could have and should have overcome that forward pitch called a fumble.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: EMAWzifried on December 01, 2024, 01:13:31 PM
A lot of dumbasses outing themselves regarding Avery. Kid is a stud that hasn't been flawless because he is a rough ridin' sophomore.
Who is driving a purple corvette in front of our fat faces like he is flawless.
he threw for 200+ yds and three touchdowns tonight.
And give up 9 points on a sucky pitch and safety.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: pissclams on December 01, 2024, 02:51:06 PM
A lot of dumbasses outing themselves regarding Avery. Kid is a stud that hasn't been flawless because he is a rough ridin' sophomore.
Who is driving a purple corvette in front of our fat faces like he is flawless.
he threw for 200+ yds and three touchdowns tonight.

While also causing a game changing fumble (that wasn't a fumble) and running backwards for 20 yards to get a safety grade school style.

I don't see Avery as big of a problem as some of you because of who is currently calling his plays.

In no way, shape, or form, can the first play of the game be game changing, unless that first play sees your starting quarterback getting knocked out. We could have and should have overcome that forward pitch called a fumble.

don’t you agree that that asian ref sucks ass?  i think he is terrible.  probably the worst ref in the big twelve
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: MakeItRain on December 01, 2024, 04:01:53 PM
A lot of dumbasses outing themselves regarding Avery. Kid is a stud that hasn't been flawless because he is a rough ridin' sophomore.
Who is driving a purple corvette in front of our fat faces like he is flawless.
he threw for 200+ yds and three touchdowns tonight.

While also causing a game changing fumble (that wasn't a fumble) and running backwards for 20 yards to get a safety grade school style.

I don't see Avery as big of a problem as some of you because of who is currently calling his plays.

In no way, shape, or form, can the first play of the game be game changing, unless that first play sees your starting quarterback getting knocked out. We could have and should have overcome that forward pitch called a fumble.

don’t you agree that that asian ref sucks ass?  i think he is terrible.  probably the worst ref in the big twelve

I was very upset at Kevin Mar, and his crew. sorry @stunted That fumble call, with the benefit of review was horrendous. Him refusing to call roughing the passer on Avery's last play was an egregious no call.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: DaBigTrain on December 01, 2024, 04:03:22 PM
I’m kidding guys :lol:

I’ve barely watched any games this year and was being overly dramatic. It’s gonna be fine.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: Woogy on December 01, 2024, 04:22:19 PM
A lot of dumbasses outing themselves regarding Avery. Kid is a stud that hasn't been flawless because he is a rough ridin' sophomore.
Who is driving a purple corvette in front of our fat faces like he is flawless.
he threw for 200+ yds and three touchdowns tonight.

While also causing a game changing fumble (that wasn't a fumble) and running backwards for 20 yards to get a safety grade school style.

I don't see Avery as big of a problem as some of you because of who is currently calling his plays.

In no way, shape, or form, can the first play of the game be game changing, unless that first play sees your starting quarterback getting knocked out. We could have and should have overcome that forward pitch called a fumble.

don’t you agree that that asian ref sucks ass?  i think he is terrible.  probably the worst ref in the big twelve

I was very upset at Kevin Mar, and his crew. sorry @stunted That fumble call, with the benefit of review was horrendous. Him refusing to call roughing the passer on Avery's last play was an egregious no call.

They were just going give that play that was a yard and half short a first down as well, forcing a challenge. It wasn't close.

And I think the guy with the line to gain indicator stick was set up short on Avery's first scramble to the sidelines. Yeah, it's not an official marker, and AJ wasn't making the official line to gain, but it was exactly where he scrambled to.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: pissclams on December 01, 2024, 06:41:34 PM
A lot of dumbasses outing themselves regarding Avery. Kid is a stud that hasn't been flawless because he is a rough ridin' sophomore.
Who is driving a purple corvette in front of our fat faces like he is flawless.
he threw for 200+ yds and three touchdowns tonight.

While also causing a game changing fumble (that wasn't a fumble) and running backwards for 20 yards to get a safety grade school style.

I don't see Avery as big of a problem as some of you because of who is currently calling his plays.

In no way, shape, or form, can the first play of the game be game changing, unless that first play sees your starting quarterback getting knocked out. We could have and should have overcome that forward pitch called a fumble.

don’t you agree that that asian ref sucks ass?  i think he is terrible.  probably the worst ref in the big twelve

I was very upset at Kevin Mar, and his crew. sorry @stunted That fumble call, with the benefit of review was horrendous. Him refusing to call roughing the passer on Avery's last play was an egregious no call.

he’s been in the middle of some horrific calls this season.  on the bright side, the fox crew and mike periera mocked how bad the officiating was just a few minutes prior to yormark joining the broadcast.

it seems to me that investing in your officiating via higher pay and training is one of the easiest ways to improve your league.  brett must have a different take.

Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: deputy dawg on December 02, 2024, 10:43:31 AM
I'd be a bit disheartened if the first play of the game was a missed call that put the opponent deep in your territory - flood aggie was spotted at least a field goal on that play, they managed to convert that missed call into a touchdown.  Other than that, most of the shooting in the foot was done by AJ.  We can hope he grows out of his turnover machine problem. 
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: nicname on December 02, 2024, 11:55:02 AM
Getting happy thoughts imagining our offense after a cream-dream offseason of Giddens returning, Cure coming in, and us picking up a key portal transfer or two on the OL. Even think with those TEs a frontline WR core of Brown, Johnson and Spivey is pretty decent should they all stay.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: cfbandyman on December 02, 2024, 12:22:50 PM
I'd be a bit disheartened if the first play of the game was a missed call that put the opponent deep in your territory - flood aggie was spotted at least a field goal on that play, they managed to convert that missed call into a touchdown.  Other than that, most of the shooting in the foot was done by AJ.  We can hope he grows out of his turnover machine problem.

Really only the safety, and a few small wtf plays. The other fumble was squarely on the WR.
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: Benja on December 02, 2024, 02:13:00 PM
I’m kidding guys :lol:

I’ve barely watched any games this year and was being overly dramatic. It’s gonna be fine.

Never give up on the bit big train (comedy note).
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: GregKSU1027 on December 02, 2024, 02:16:41 PM
He will be back, where else can you get a sick lavender corvette?? :ksu: :driving:
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: Benja on December 02, 2024, 02:18:03 PM
it seems to me that investing in your officiating via higher pay and training is one of the easiest ways to improve your league.  brett must have a different take

This is a great note. Have you seen what's happening in the NFL lately though? Refereeing has run into a lot of trouble there too. It may be because the game is getting more complicated to referree. But it's noticablly worse.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: pissclams on December 02, 2024, 03:07:17 PM
football is a difficult sport to referee.  we introduced replay to help.  then you have an obvious situation on saturday that should have been reversed and validate the use of replay but the official spent almost five minutes reviewing the play and ultimately was unable to correctly utilize the tool to get the call right.

the only excuse for not being able to get the call correct after spending that much time on review is that he’s not qualified for his job and should be replaced
Title: Re: Will Avery be back next year?
Post by: Benja on December 02, 2024, 03:12:18 PM
football is a difficult sport to referee.  we introduced replay to help.  then you have an obvious situation on saturday that should have been reversed and validate the use of replay but the official spent almost five minutes reviewing the play and ultimately was unable to correctly utilize the tool to get the call right.

the only excuse for not being able to get the call correct after spending that much time on review is that he’s not qualified for his job and should be replaced

At this point I'm not even sure he has the ability to override the calls. Like, he may literally be hearing in his headset the call, and just has to go with that. I don't actually know for sure. Either way yes, it could get way way better.