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Title: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: Pete on May 10, 2024, 07:54:46 AM


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Big 12 post-spring power rankings: Utah edges Kansas State for No. 1, West Virginia leads dark horse group

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/big-12-post-spring-power-rankings-utah-edges-kansas-state-for-no-1-west-virginia-leads-dark-horse-group/
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: cfbandyman on May 10, 2024, 08:06:18 AM
As of right now not making it to the pepper is going to feel like a disappointment. Unless it's some weird 4 way tie situation cause of how many teams there are.
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: wetwillie on May 10, 2024, 08:16:30 AM
The wildcard is the OL.  If they are decent I don't see how anyone beats us.
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: Kid In the Hall on May 10, 2024, 08:28:26 AM
Utah didn't beat a single team that finished the year ranked in the top 25 and had two wins against teams that finished with winning records (UCLA & USC, both 8-5). And, they lost by 14+ points to three of the four teams they played that did finish the year ranked.

I think they'll finish in the upper third, but seems odd to me to predict them as the champs given that they'll be in a new conference, playing in new stadiums, dealing with different travel scenarios, etc. coupled with the fact that they weren't particularly great last year.
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: Pete on May 10, 2024, 08:39:43 AM
FWIW, I will be rooting against Utah in every game except the Holy War.
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: ben ji on May 10, 2024, 09:31:04 AM
10-2 or 11-1.

I'm rooting for us to lose to Arizona in our OOC game then finish higher then them in the Big12 standings by 1 game and go to the Dr pepper while they watch at home.

Bonus points if we finish tied with the same conference record but win the conference tie breakers to go over them.
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: wetwillie on May 10, 2024, 09:35:09 AM
My preference is 13-0 and a bye in the inaugural 12 team CFP.
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: deputy dawg on May 10, 2024, 10:17:09 AM
There will be a surprise team on the Cats schedule that could pose a problem.  Everyone is on the Utah and KU bandwagons, those are the two key teams I'm focusing on, even though we won't play Utah, and have KU at home.  We also have Okie State at home.  Those are the teams that could pose problems for us.  A team that I would welcome have K-State shove a brick up their sphincters is Iowa State, but we play them in Ames. 
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on May 10, 2024, 10:55:02 AM
10-2 or 11-1.

I'm rooting for us to lose to Arizona in our OOC game then finish higher then them in the Big12 standings by 1 game and go to the Dr pepper while they watch at home.

Bonus points if we finish tied with the same conference record but win the conference tie breakers to go over them.

Do you not think they would change the tiebreakers with 2 games to go?  lol
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: pissclams on May 10, 2024, 11:17:03 AM
The wildcard is the OL.  If they are decent I don't see how anyone beats us.
every year I come out of the blocks saying this will be the best OL we’ve had in decades but every year they start  slow and seem to have weird ups and downs under Ol’ Ham & Potatoes
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: wetwillie on May 10, 2024, 11:27:31 AM
The wildcard is the OL.  If they are decent I don't see how anyone beats us.
every year I come out of the blocks saying this will be the best OL we’ve had in decades but every year they start  slow and seem to have weird ups and downs under Ol’ Ham & Potatoes

It is a bit daunting realizing the left side of our OL were both NFL guys and so was the TE. At least we return 3 guys that played a ton last year and a grad transfer to play LT.


Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on May 13, 2024, 02:50:43 AM
Unless it's some weird 4 way tie situation cause of how many teams there are.

Well... It's going to happen, maybe not the Big 12 this season, but it's going to happen and probably somewhere every year until they get rid of the non division play with 80 team conferences. It's mathematically unavoidable.
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: cfbandyman on May 13, 2024, 12:50:15 PM
Unless it's some weird 4 way tie situation cause of how many teams there are.

Well... It's going to happen, maybe not the Big 12 this season, but it's going to happen and probably somewhere every year until they get rid of the non division play with 80 team conferences. It's mathematically unavoidable.

I know this, hence it's qualification to my previous statement. If it's a tiebreaker crap then we needed to probably win a game we lost and at that point it's more like last year and just sad, not disappointed.
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 16, 2024, 04:42:19 PM
Guys, I think we go undefeated then lose the Big 12 Championship to a dark horse Big 12 team, then lose our first game in the CFB playoffs. Eerily similar to 1998.
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: Pete on May 16, 2024, 05:37:36 PM
Guys, I think we go undefeated then lose the Big 12 Championship to a dark horse Big 12 team, then lose our first game in the CFB playoffs. Eerily similar to 1998.
I hate to be a Debbie downer, but I don’t think the Big 12 will be a lock to get a 1 loss conference CCG loser into the playoff.
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: star seed 7 on May 16, 2024, 05:42:03 PM
I don't think there is any way Klienman can go undefeated, it's just not how he coaches. We will always get tripped up looking past a team or two.
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: ben ji on May 20, 2024, 11:05:17 AM
Guys, I think we go undefeated then lose the Big 12 Championship to a dark horse Big 12 team, then lose our first game in the CFB playoffs. Eerily similar to 1998.
I hate to be a Debbie downer, but I don’t think the Big 12 will be a lock to get a 1 loss conference CCG loser into the playoff.

TCU was a literal lock before we beat their ass in the Dr pepper and that with the 4 game playoff.

A 12-1 Big12 team with their only loss being in the Dr pepper will be in the 12 team playoff.
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: cfbandyman on May 20, 2024, 11:24:56 AM
Guys, I think we go undefeated then lose the Big 12 Championship to a dark horse Big 12 team, then lose our first game in the CFB playoffs. Eerily similar to 1998.
I hate to be a Debbie downer, but I don’t think the Big 12 will be a lock to get a 1 loss conference CCG loser into the playoff.

TCU was a literal lock before we beat their ass in the Dr pepper and that with the 4 game playoff.

A 12-1 Big12 team with their only loss being in the Dr pepper will be in the 12 team playoff.

Correct, it would be pretty damn unlikely for 2 teams to not get in. SEC/big 10 will have 3, us and ACC 2, and then a G5 and polly ND will be the norm
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: cfbandyman on May 20, 2024, 11:29:34 AM
I think we go 11-1, win the CCG, get a bye, win that game, lose semis to UGA or w/e by 2+ TDs. We use that as motivation for our year next year when Avery wins Heisman and we go 16-0
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on May 20, 2024, 06:09:16 PM
Sold
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: ben ji on May 20, 2024, 06:53:21 PM
I think we go 11-1, win the CCG, get a bye, win that game, lose semis to UGA or w/e by 2+ TDs. We use that as motivation for our year next year when Avery wins Heisman and we go 16-0

If that happens I want the KATZ to go all in in NIL etc for the chance that the second part. I'm talking use the next 3 or 4 years of NIL funds to get giddens back for another year and sign all the impact portal players. Could we outbid Texas or OSU every year? Absolutely not, but for one year maybe.

It's highly unlikely that we will have QB as talented as Avery in the future so I say YOLO it while we have our golden haired purple hearted football Jesus slinging the pigskin for good ole KSU.
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on May 21, 2024, 09:28:09 AM
With the Ireland game and a returning Avery, next year should definitely be an all-in year.
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 21, 2024, 10:07:08 AM
I think we drop 2 games at max this year IMO
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: cfbandyman on May 21, 2024, 10:34:31 AM
I think we go 11-1, win the CCG, get a bye, win that game, lose semis to UGA or w/e by 2+ TDs. We use that as motivation for our year next year when Avery wins Heisman and we go 16-0

If that happens I want the KATZ to go all in in NIL etc for the chance that the second part. I'm talking use the next 3 or 4 years of NIL funds to get giddens back for another year and sign all the impact portal players. Could we outbid Texas or OSU every year? Absolutely not, but for one year maybe.

It's highly unlikely that we will have QB as talented as Avery in the future so I say YOLO it while we have our golden haired purple hearted football Jesus slinging the pigskin for good ole KSU.

Exactly where my head was at. I think this year, especially if it plays out close to that, is how we approach 2025, with the way we start the season in Ireland, with a junior and experienced Avery who has the hype really ratcheted up, and our big name donors push all in.
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: KITNfury on May 21, 2024, 10:39:42 AM
The wildcard is the OL.  If they are decent I don't see how anyone beats us.
This is my concern also.
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: PurpleOil on May 21, 2024, 11:44:34 AM
I think we go 11-1, win the CCG, get a bye, win that game, lose semis to UGA or w/e by 2+ TDs. We use that as motivation for our year next year when Avery wins Heisman and we go 16-0

I would consider sacrificing my first born to make this happen.


Have we obtained any receivers that can run routes and catch balls yet? I feel like that's going to have a bigger impact than our OL this year.
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on May 21, 2024, 11:46:54 AM
I think we have our best WR group since Lockett.
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: Kid In the Hall on May 21, 2024, 12:32:27 PM
I think we go 11-1, win the CCG, get a bye, win that game, lose semis to UGA or w/e by 2+ TDs. We use that as motivation for our year next year when Avery wins Heisman and we go 16-0

I would consider sacrificing my first born to make this happen.


Have we obtained any receivers that can run routes and catch balls yet? I feel like that's going to have a bigger impact than our OL this year.

I think it largely hinges on Johnson being healthy and the Penn State transfer being more like he was in the MAC and less like he was in the Big Ten last year.
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: yoga-like_abana on May 21, 2024, 02:00:59 PM
I think we have our best WR group since Lockett.
Do we have a single receiver over 6 ft? (serious question)
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on May 21, 2024, 02:44:01 PM
I think we have our best WR group since Lockett.
Do we have a single receiver over 6 ft? (serious question)

Almost all WRs we expect to play significantly are at least listed at 6 ft.  Spivey is the tallest at 6'4" although I'm expecting he's more rotational than starter.
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: wetwillie on May 21, 2024, 02:55:48 PM
I think we have our best WR group since Lockett.

2016 had Byron Pringle and Deonte Burton and they both played in the NFL.  That's probably the last WR group we had that was definitively better than this one.
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: meow meow on May 21, 2024, 03:45:01 PM
Burton played defense in the nfl, guy wasn't a good receiver.
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: ben ji on May 21, 2024, 03:47:31 PM
I think we have our best WR group since Lockett.

2016 had Byron Pringle and Deonte Burton and they both played in the NFL.  That's probably the last WR group we had that was definitively better than this one.

I'm surprised Pringle is still in the league since he was 26 when he got drafted. Just looked him up and it looks like he played in all 17 games for Washington last year with 14 receptions for 161 yards.
Title: Re: 2024 Season Prediction Thread
Post by: wetwillie on May 21, 2024, 07:45:01 PM
Burton played defense in the nfl, guy wasn't a good receiver.

Had significantly better stats at WR than Zuber (also made an NFL team)