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Title: (edit) ITT gE gets super literal about the prospect of LL staying at KU
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 25, 2023, 09:47:48 AM
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Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: catastrophe on September 25, 2023, 10:27:38 AM
I would like to see LL’s brand of offense in the Big 10
Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 25, 2023, 10:30:28 AM
I think it would be very exciting.

LL would certainly get the attention of Coach Khaki's down the road.
Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: PurpleOil on September 25, 2023, 11:23:40 AM
LL going to M-State would be hilarious for a number of reasons, but I don't see them taking a chance on him.
Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: Pete on September 25, 2023, 12:02:17 PM
Lance would be amazing at Iowa or Wisconsin.
Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: Pete on September 25, 2023, 12:03:22 PM
Frankly, a good old fashioned big 10 bidding war for Lance will probably happen.
Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 25, 2023, 12:28:31 PM
There could be as many as 3 BiG schools in play here for red hot commodity LL


Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: Kid In the Hall on September 25, 2023, 12:52:30 PM
Has it been established if LL is the brains behind that offense or if it's the OC? The OC's been with LL for a decade and if you're going to throw Mel Tucker money around, I'd be a bit hesitant for what happens if/when the OC leaves (cause you know defense sure isn't LL's calling card).
Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: deputy dawg on September 25, 2023, 02:45:55 PM
Would Lance Lightpole leave beautiful Lawrence for East Lansing?  It'd have to be a pretty big bump in pay.  He would likely go to Madison or Champagne-Urbana in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 25, 2023, 05:21:04 PM
According to oscar Feldman of The Athletic, Leipold would the top  option to replace Tucker at Michigan State.  Leipold has taken Kansas football to unprecedented heights in less than three years


Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: wetwillie on September 25, 2023, 05:55:21 PM
Lance isn't leaving KU.  They will pay him a top 10 salary if it comes to it.
Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 25, 2023, 05:58:37 PM
Lance isn't leaving KU.  They will pay him a top 10 salary if it comes to it.
The endowment is ready to make a big move to keep him there.
Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: Spracne on September 25, 2023, 06:37:40 PM
Lance isn't leaving KU.  They will pay him a top 10 salary if it comes to it.

He has an opportunity to do something here, and he is not taking it lightly.
Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: pissclams on September 25, 2023, 07:57:28 PM
I think he would at least have to entertain the offer, but the opportunity at KU is a good one and he’s already got several years invested.  Starting over, even though he’s relatively young, isn’t all that appealing, I would think.  KU fans and media have already anointed him sainthood, unless they offer him a contract similar to Tuckers’, I don’t think he would move.
Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: Kid In the Hall on September 25, 2023, 09:54:49 PM
I think he would at least have to entertain the offer, but the opportunity at KU is a good one and he’s already got several years invested.  Starting over, even though he’s relatively young, isn’t all that appealing, I would think.  KU fans and media have already anointed him sainthood, unless they offer him a contract similar to Tuckers’, I don’t think he would move.

Is 59 young these days?
Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: star seed 7 on September 26, 2023, 12:38:06 AM
getting ku to a bowl is a major accomplishment and other teams are starting to take note  :th_twocents:
Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: I_have_purplewood on September 26, 2023, 09:11:03 AM
Can you imagine the rivalry KU and MSU would have if this happens?  LL goes to MSU and the OC cord takes over as KU coach.  When the inevitable KU move to the Big 10 happens in the coming years.  :love: :driving: :love: (ftp://:love: :driving: :love:). ESPN wants this! We all want this.
Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: pissclams on September 26, 2023, 09:40:22 AM
I think he would at least have to entertain the offer, but the opportunity at KU is a good one and he’s already got several years invested.  Starting over, even though he’s relatively young, isn’t all that appealing, I would think.  KU fans and media have already anointed him sainthood, unless they offer him a contract similar to Tuckers’, I don’t think he would move.

Is 59 young these days?
i know how old he is and i referred to him as relatively young.  without arguing semantics, my point is that he’s not so old that it’s too late to start over, though he probably wouldn’t want to for other reasons than his clock running out
Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: wetwillie on September 26, 2023, 09:48:33 AM
You could make a fairly strong argument that the KU job is better than the MSU job right now.
Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: EMAWzifried on September 26, 2023, 10:37:28 AM
You could make a fairly strong argument that the KU job is better than the MSU job right now.
You could make a weak argument. And that argument would center on LL.
Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: wetwillie on September 26, 2023, 11:00:41 AM
You could make a fairly strong argument that the KU job is better than the MSU job right now.
You could make a weak argument. And that argument would center on LL.

It's a much easier path to the CFP in the new big 12.  Doesn't have the stench of MSU athletics with Nassar and now Tucker.  Recruiting TX is likely more feasible from Lawrence than it is from East Lansing.
Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: pissclams on September 26, 2023, 11:59:48 AM
You could make a fairly strong argument that the KU job is better than the MSU job right now.
you could but only if you ignored the ten year $95 million dollar contract that msu signed with their former coach.
Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: DQ12 on September 26, 2023, 12:10:11 PM
You could make a fairly strong argument that the KU job is better than the MSU job right now.
you could but only if you ignored the ten year $95 million dollar contract that msu signed with their former coach.
And about 50 other things but yeah.  One could definitely at least make an argument. 
Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: Spracne on September 26, 2023, 12:11:15 PM
Can you imagine the rivalry KU and MSU would have if this happens?  LL goes to MSU and the OC cord takes over as KU coach.  When the inevitable KU move to the Big 10 happens in the coming years.  :love: :driving: :love: (ftp://:love: :driving: :love:). ESPN wants this! We all want this.

Lance would take most of his staff with him, if history is any indication. But I don't think he's leaving.
Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: Kid In the Hall on September 26, 2023, 12:14:39 PM
I think he would at least have to entertain the offer, but the opportunity at KU is a good one and he’s already got several years invested.  Starting over, even though he’s relatively young, isn’t all that appealing, I would think.  KU fans and media have already anointed him sainthood, unless they offer him a contract similar to Tuckers’, I don’t think he would move.

Is 59 young these days?
i know how old he is and i referred to him as relatively young.  without arguing semantics, my point is that he’s not so old that it’s too late to start over, though he probably wouldn’t want to for other reasons than his clock running out

I don't necessarily disagree, but not a whole lot of Power 5 head coaches hired at the age of 60+. Off the top of my head, Brian Kelly and Mack Brown are the only ones I can think of in the last few years and those guys are obviously in a different category from Leipold with much longer track records at this level.
Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 26, 2023, 12:17:32 PM
Can you imagine the rivalry KU and MSU would have if this happens?  LL goes to MSU and the OC cord takes over as KU coach.  When the inevitable KU move to the Big 10 happens in the coming years.  :love: :driving: :love: (ftp://:love: :driving: :love:). ESPN wants this! We all want this.

Lance would take most of his staff with him, if history is any indication. But I don't think he's leaving.
How could he ever leave after being invited over to Billy’s live laugh love poolside cabana


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Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: CHONGS on September 26, 2023, 12:19:25 PM
What LL has accomplished at a school with as many structural and cultural disadvantages as KU can't be overstated.

That a small farm school with no history, a recruiting desert in the middle of rural Kansas, and no fanbase is even ranked is amazing.
Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: Spracne on September 26, 2023, 12:23:21 PM
Can you imagine the rivalry KU and MSU would have if this happens?  LL goes to MSU and the OC cord takes over as KU coach.  When the inevitable KU move to the Big 10 happens in the coming years.  :love: :driving: :love: (ftp://:love: :driving: :love:). ESPN wants this! We all want this.

Lance would take most of his staff with him, if history is any indication. But I don't think he's leaving.
How could he ever leave after being invited over to Billy’s live laugh love poolside cabana


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Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 26, 2023, 12:28:17 PM
I do not think it is lost any of the potential suitors that Lance L must operate in a situation where he must take his team to Topeka, KS to get a charter flight and that recruits must fly into an airport over an hour from campus. 

That certainly gives him a huge leg up on say, a Chris Kleiman who can roll out of bed 5 minutes before arrival and still greet that recruit getting off that AA flight in the newly remodeled commercial terminal of MHK.

Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: wetwillie on September 26, 2023, 12:37:38 PM
You could make a fairly strong argument that the KU job is better than the MSU job right now.
you could but only if you ignored the ten year $95 million dollar contract that msu signed with their former coach.

Their current list of realistic candidates certainly doesn't scream premier CFB destination. MSU AD obviously brings in more top line revenue from the delta in conference media deals but it isn't radically different.  The MSU job is probably still better just given it is in a P2 conference but I think MSU's outlook is very similar to Nebraska in the current CFB landscape.
Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: MakeItRain on September 26, 2023, 12:41:30 PM
You could make a fairly strong argument that the KU job is better than the MSU job right now.

I agree with you. Michigan State certainly has more money but he clearly has more clout at KU, a presumably good relationship with his boss, and a much easier path to the CFP.

Lance would take most of his staff with him, if history is any indication. But I don't think he's leaving.

I can't imagine a scenario in which Lance leaves and KU allows Kotelnicki to go with him.
Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: MakeItRain on September 26, 2023, 12:44:28 PM
You could make a fairly strong argument that the KU job is better than the MSU job right now.
you could but only if you ignored the ten year $95 million dollar contract that msu signed with their former coach.

Their current list of realistic candidates certainly doesn't scream premier CFB destination. MSU AD obviously brings in more top line revenue from the delta in conference media deals but it isn't radically different.  The MSU job is probably still better just given it is in a P2 conference but I think MSU's outlook is very similar to Nebraska in the current CFB landscape.

Yes, they will absolutely hire a worse coach than Lance, as they did when they hired Mel Tucker after he went 5-7 at Colorado, in his only season as head coach.
Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: EMAWzifried on September 26, 2023, 05:20:54 PM
He's winning with the Madhatter's qb and running back? (maybe).
Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: PurpleOil on September 27, 2023, 08:04:27 AM
You could make a fairly strong argument that the KU job is better than the MSU job right now.

I agree with you. Michigan State certainly has more money but he clearly has more clout at KU, a presumably good relationship with his boss, and a much easier path to the CFP.

Lance would take most of his staff with him, if history is any indication. But I don't think he's leaving.

I can't imagine a scenario in which Lance leaves and KU allows Kotelnicki to go with him.

Are you saying they would try and stop Kotelnicki, or that they would throw enough money to keep him in Lawrence if LL were to leave (which I continue to doubt MSU even interviews him)?
Title: Re: (edit) ITT gE gets super literal about the prospect of LL staying at KU
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2023, 09:03:22 AM
They would 100% offer him a decent paying HC gig. I mean I think he’s got to be on some G5 radars even now.
Title: Re: ITT We document the ascendence of Lance Liepold: Future BiG head coach
Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2023, 09:32:39 AM
You could make a fairly strong argument that the KU job is better than the MSU job right now.

I agree with you. Michigan State certainly has more money but he clearly has more clout at KU, a presumably good relationship with his boss, and a much easier path to the CFP.

Lance would take most of his staff with him, if history is any indication. But I don't think he's leaving.

I can't imagine a scenario in which Lance leaves and KU allows Kotelnicki to go with him.

Are you saying they would try and stop Kotelnicki, or that they would throw enough money to keep him in Lawrence if LL were to leave (which I continue to doubt MSU even interviews him)?

Uh, they'd make him the head coach
Title: Re: (edit) ITT gE gets super literal about the prospect of LL staying at KU
Post by: deputy dawg on September 27, 2023, 11:34:26 AM
Can Bill offer to glide Lance into the KU co-ed scene, or is that off the table after Bill's heart attack? 
Title: Re: (edit) ITT gE gets super literal about the prospect of LL staying at KU
Post by: PhoCat on September 27, 2023, 01:33:40 PM
Can Bill offer to glide Lance into the KU co-ed scene, or is that off the table after Bill's heart attack?

Bill tends to dip his toes into the middle-aged cheatin' wife and divorcee pool in Lawrence.  Coeds can be a bit messy in this current day and age (Me Too stuff).

Source: A+
Title: Re: (edit) ITT gE gets super literal about the prospect of LL staying at KU
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2023, 05:38:00 PM
Will LL come out and declare his dedication to KU like our guy CK? https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38507289/kansas-state-coach-chris-klieman-says-candidate-michigan-state-position

The silence is deafening IYAM
Title: Re: (edit) ITT gE gets super literal about the prospect of LL staying at KU
Post by: Pete on September 27, 2023, 08:51:50 PM
Mustang has the Meadowlark’s loyalty.  Blood brothers.
Title: Re: (edit) ITT gE gets super literal about the prospect of LL staying at KU
Post by: deputy dawg on September 28, 2023, 11:07:43 AM
Can Bill offer to glide Lance into the KU co-ed scene, or is that off the table after Bill's heart attack?

Bill tends to dip his toes into the middle-aged cheatin' wife and divorcee pool in Lawrence.  Coeds can be a bit messy in this current day and age (Me Too stuff).

Source: A+

That would work too.  Not many universities can offer a mentor with the experience that Bill has.  KU definitely has an edge on this front.
Title: Re: (edit) ITT gE gets super literal about the prospect of LL staying at KU
Post by: Shooter Jones on September 28, 2023, 11:21:19 AM
It's been over 5,000 days since KU football has had a winning season.

The way LL has these Blue Wing Hawks rising is historic, there are literally high school recruits that have never seen it in their lifetime.

He'll be on a lot of short lists this year.
Title: Re: (edit) ITT gE gets super literal about the prospect of LL staying at KU
Post by: wetwillie on September 28, 2023, 12:02:54 PM
If KU lets him leave they are way more incompetent than I could even imagine. They finally have momentum with a new stadium and a competent coach who actually recruits. 
 
Title: Re: (edit) ITT gE gets super literal about the prospect of LL staying at KU
Post by: PurpleOil on September 28, 2023, 12:37:00 PM
If KU lets him leave they are way more incompetent than I could even imagine. They finally have momentum with a new stadium and a competent coach who actually recruits.

They're not going to be able to compete with any other school that would legitimately be interested in him. At the end of the day it's a basketball school and a much better football program is only 90 miles down the road. I'm happy they're not the laughing stock of football anymore because it's better for everyone involved, but if LL chooses to stay at KU instead of taking a bigger school's offer he runs a very high risk of becoming the next Matt Campbell.
Title: Re: (edit) ITT gE gets super literal about the prospect of LL staying at KU
Post by: catastrophe on September 28, 2023, 01:03:45 PM
KU has had a historically bad run in FB, but Iowa State is unmatched in their commitment to mediocrity. I don't think that's an apples to apples comparison.
Title: Re: (edit) ITT gE gets super literal about the prospect of LL staying at KU
Post by: wetwillie on September 28, 2023, 01:17:48 PM
Obviously the high end SEC and big 10 programs could have him, I just don't think the mid tier programs can. I don't see him as a high end program guy but maybe I'm wrong.
Title: Re: (edit) ITT gE gets super literal about the prospect of LL staying at KU
Post by: Shooter Jones on September 29, 2023, 08:55:59 AM
If he was going anywhere, it was probably Wisconsin last year. Have a feeling he'll continue to be their LHC Bill Snyder after this historic season.
Title: Re: (edit) ITT gE gets super literal about the prospect of LL staying at KU
Post by: Kid In the Hall on September 29, 2023, 09:03:19 AM
Feldman from The Athletic:

"A couple of top candidates have emerged in the early stages of the Michigan State coaching search, a source told The Athletic Thursday. As expected, Kansas’ Lance Leipold is seen as a strong option for the Spartans. The other name I’m hearing is Washington State’s Jake Dickert, who, like Leipold, has roots in the state of Wisconsin."
Title: Re: (edit) ITT gE gets super literal about the prospect of LL staying at KU
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on September 30, 2023, 01:57:04 PM
Roots like how Jim Harbaugh has roots in Lawrence?
Title: Re: (edit) ITT gE gets super literal about the prospect of LL staying at KU
Post by: wetwillie on September 30, 2023, 02:05:29 PM
'Bout time to Rock Chalk!
Title: Re: (edit) ITT gE gets super literal about the prospect of LL staying at KU
Post by: Katpappy on September 30, 2023, 03:59:02 PM
Roots like how Jim Harbaugh has roots in Lawrence?

Oh, you obviously mean he has planted his root around the Lawrence area?
Title: Re: (edit) ITT gE gets super literal about the prospect of LL staying at KU
Post by: star seed 7 on September 30, 2023, 04:01:20 PM
sure feels like a blowout so far but give credit to our guys for keeping it close
Title: Re: (edit) ITT gE gets super literal about the prospect of LL staying at KU
Post by: Katpappy on September 30, 2023, 04:03:54 PM
Not quite sure how much BLOW is involved.