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Title: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: Kat Kid on July 27, 2023, 01:47:51 PM
https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1684624587626008577?s=20
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: kim carnes on July 27, 2023, 02:23:03 PM
Mods, we don’t need a thread for this.
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Post by: wetwillie on July 27, 2023, 02:32:07 PM
Denied, a new thread is warranted
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on July 27, 2023, 02:42:40 PM
65 and you can no longer be apart of the office in any form? Seems fair honestly.
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: Brock Landers on July 27, 2023, 03:10:41 PM
If you're too old to be my airline pilot you're too old to represent me in Congress.
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on July 28, 2023, 01:22:35 PM
END THE GERONTOCRACY!!!!
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: wetwillie on July 28, 2023, 01:24:54 PM
The sys bait did not work
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: CNS on July 28, 2023, 01:31:28 PM
I don't know how you argue this one.

The Mitch one either.

The idea that we don't have a mechanism in place to address this seems wild to me. 

Let's say back in 1780, or whatever, that your senator got kicked in the head by their stupid horse.  They recovered to the point that the were able go to the senate but were a complete drooling mess.  What was the plan?
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on July 28, 2023, 01:43:09 PM
I don't know how you argue this one.

The Mitch one either.

The idea that we don't have a mechanism in place to address this seems wild to me. 

Let's say back in 1780, or whatever, that your senator got kicked in the head by their stupid horse.  They recovered to the point that the were able go to the senate but were a complete drooling mess.  What was the plan?
The 25 Amendment deals with this for presidents but I don't think it is covered anywhere for other elected officials. Woodrow Wilson remained president while he was a completed drooling mess for quite a while.
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: Spracne on July 28, 2023, 01:51:36 PM
I don't know how you argue this one.

The Mitch one either.

The idea that we don't have a mechanism in place to address this seems wild to me. 

Let's say back in 1780, or whatever, that your senator got kicked in the head by their stupid horse.  They recovered to the point that the were able go to the senate but were a complete drooling mess.  What was the plan?

There is no mechanism. The Founders pretty much assumed (wrongly!) that people would act in the best interests of the nation. I just finished The Brethren, and this reminds me of the end of William O. Douglas's term on the Supreme Court. Bastard tried to white knuckle it as long as he could after suffering a debilitating stroke, but he finally caved due to pressures from his wife and his colleagues on the bench.
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: Katpappy on July 28, 2023, 03:12:38 PM
There are driving restrictions, drinking, military, and quite a few others that are accepted by law-abiding  citizens so why not have minimal and maximum age limits for all three areas of government?
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: OB_Won on July 28, 2023, 03:30:35 PM
There are driving restrictions, drinking, military, and quite a few others that are accepted by law-abiding  citizens so why not have minimal and maximum age limits for all three areas of government?
Who brings the bill to congress? Who votes on the bill? Who is detrimentally affected by the law? They aren't going to volunteer giving up all that money and power.
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: CNS on July 28, 2023, 03:48:15 PM
I don't know how you argue this one.

The Mitch one either.

The idea that we don't have a mechanism in place to address this seems wild to me. 

Let's say back in 1780, or whatever, that your senator got kicked in the head by their stupid horse.  They recovered to the point that the were able go to the senate but were a complete drooling mess.  What was the plan?

There is no mechanism. The Founders pretty much assumed (wrongly!) that people would act in the best interests of the nation. I just finished The Brethren, and this reminds me of the end of William O. Douglas's term on the Supreme Court. Bastard tried to white knuckle it as long as he could after suffering a debilitating stroke, but he finally caved due to pressures from his wife and his colleagues on the bench.

The founders mumped up with their assumptions. As the saying goes:

When you assume, you make an ass ton of irresponsible private interest groups able to control senators and congressmen and give them the ability to maintain a strangle hold on arguably the most important body of government.
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: yoga-like_abana on July 28, 2023, 04:05:18 PM
As the saying goes: When you assume you man an ass out of you and me
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 28, 2023, 04:08:35 PM
At the risk of triggering #blueanongE who is always  :curse: :curse: about the Bee

https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1684990144321859589?s=20
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: catastrophe on July 28, 2023, 04:39:22 PM
That’s one of the good ones.
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Post by: DaBigTrain on July 28, 2023, 05:03:44 PM
Yeah I don't feel triggered at all.
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Post by: star seed 7 on July 28, 2023, 05:06:49 PM
Get triggered motherfuckers
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Post by: XocolateThundarr on July 28, 2023, 05:29:33 PM
*Old Yeller gif*
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: bucket on July 28, 2023, 05:59:34 PM
I don't know how you argue this one.

The Mitch one either.

The idea that we don't have a mechanism in place to address this seems wild to me. 

Let's say back in 1780, or whatever, that your senator got kicked in the head by their stupid horse.  They recovered to the point that the were able go to the senate but were a complete drooling mess.  What was the plan?

There is no mechanism. The Founders pretty much assumed (wrongly!) that people would act in the best interests of the nation. I just finished The Brethren, and this reminds me of the end of William O. Douglas's term on the Supreme Court. Bastard tried to white knuckle it as long as he could after suffering a debilitating stroke, but he finally caved due to pressures from his wife and his colleagues on the bench.

William Douglas just made for an interesting wiki read on the bus.
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: Spracne on July 28, 2023, 06:31:28 PM
I don't know how you argue this one.

The Mitch one either.

The idea that we don't have a mechanism in place to address this seems wild to me. 

Let's say back in 1780, or whatever, that your senator got kicked in the head by their stupid horse.  They recovered to the point that the were able go to the senate but were a complete drooling mess.  What was the plan?

There is no mechanism. The Founders pretty much assumed (wrongly!) that people would act in the best interests of the nation. I just finished The Brethren, and this reminds me of the end of William O. Douglas's term on the Supreme Court. Bastard tried to white knuckle it as long as he could after suffering a debilitating stroke, but he finally caved due to pressures from his wife and his colleagues on the bench.

William Douglas just made for an interesting wiki read on the bus.

I took a class on the First Amendment from one of his former law clerks. It was pretty entertaining.
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: kim carnes on July 28, 2023, 10:22:48 PM
The disdain for democracy that I’m seeing in this thread is disturbing
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Post by: DaBigTrain on July 29, 2023, 12:50:33 AM
The disdain for democracy that I’m seeing in this thread is disturbing
Nobody has cared for your opinion on this, and in fact, any future comment, nobody will care, or should care. 
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: star seed 7 on July 29, 2023, 01:13:29 AM
Kim, I care.
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: sys on July 29, 2023, 01:27:36 AM
The sys bait did not work

she voted correctly.  i am well represented.
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: turnbull on July 29, 2023, 06:04:53 AM
Democrats would like Feinstein to retire… but the GOP won’t allow Democrats to replace her on the judiciary(it has to be agreed to committee assignments and the GOP wants the committee to be 10-10 so discharge petitions have to be filled, which are very timely) so she’ll stay there so Democrats have the Aye (11-10 ) vote for judges which allows for a faster confirmation.

McConnell is hanging on because he’s worried that the next GOP Leader won’t be Thune but someone insane like Scott or Vance.
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: yoga-like_abana on July 29, 2023, 10:41:51 AM
 
The sys bait did not work

she voted correctly.  i am well represented.
:lol:
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: MakeItRain on July 30, 2023, 11:23:55 PM
There should be no restrictions on who can run for any public office. There are octogenarians, noncitizens, convicts, teenagers, etc. who are far more capable of serving than some of the people who perfectly fit within whatever restrictions we have in place or whatever people want in place. The voters need to decide who represents them, not some arbitrary restriction.
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: CNS on July 31, 2023, 08:19:12 AM
The non-citizen part is ridiculous. 

The rest is whatever. 
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Post by: wetwillie on July 31, 2023, 08:39:45 AM
If the people want to amend the constitution to qualify candidates for office, it's within their rights. We already have minimum age restrictions for office, no reason to not have maximums if the electorate wants them.
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: Woogy on July 31, 2023, 10:05:08 AM
I don't know how you argue this one.

The Mitch one either.

The idea that we don't have a mechanism in place to address this seems wild to me. 

Let's say back in 1780, or whatever, that your senator got kicked in the head by their stupid horse.  They recovered to the point that the were able go to the senate but were a complete drooling mess.  What was the plan?

I think the plan back then involved having multiday travel by horse drawn carriage to get to Philly, NY or DC, un-airconditioned facilities; and relying on enough of them saying 'eff this, I'm not going through that crap (sometimes literally) anymore.
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: MakeItRain on July 31, 2023, 12:00:13 PM
The non-citizen part is ridiculous. 


Why? You do know that there are places where non-citizens are allowed to vote in state and local elections, right? I'm looking at you real funny if you think felons can hold office but non-citizens can't.
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: CNS on July 31, 2023, 12:10:25 PM
The non-citizen part is ridiculous. 


Why? You do know that there are places where non-citizens are allowed to vote in state and local elections, right? I'm looking at you real funny if you think felons can hold office but non-citizens can't.

My statement is with regard to higher office and non-citizens should absolutely not have access to those levels.  We live in a country where the quantity of money involved statistically can predict the winner of most elections.  We have major problems now with that.  I can't even imagine how bad it would get if those offices would be made openly for sale world wide.

Also, in a country where so many ppl get tossed in jail willy-nilly, I definitely think felons should have access to holding office and voting once time is served.  If you live here, pay taxes here, and got caught with an ounce when you were 19,  you should 100% have a vote in who your governor is.
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: MakeItRain on July 31, 2023, 12:45:47 PM
The non-citizen part is ridiculous. 


Why? You do know that there are places where non-citizens are allowed to vote in state and local elections, right? I'm looking at you real funny if you think felons can hold office but non-citizens can't.

My statement is with regard to higher office and non-citizens should absolutely not have access to those levels.  We live in a country where the quantity of money involved statistically can predict the winner of most elections.  We have major problems now with that.  I can't even imagine how bad it would get if those offices would be made openly for sale world wide.

Also, in a country where so many ppl get tossed in jail willy-nilly, I definitely think felons should have access to holding office and voting once time is served.  If you live here, pay taxes here, and got caught with an ounce when you were 19,  you should 100% have a vote in who your governor is.

Heavens knows that this country has never had an issue with citizens in government getting compromised by money foreign and/or domestic.
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: CNS on July 31, 2023, 05:57:22 PM
The non-citizen part is ridiculous. 


Why? You do know that there are places where non-citizens are allowed to vote in state and local elections, right? I'm looking at you real funny if you think felons can hold office but non-citizens can't.

My statement is with regard to higher office and non-citizens should absolutely not have access to those levels.  We live in a country where the quantity of money involved statistically can predict the winner of most elections.  We have major problems now with that.  I can't even imagine how bad it would get if those offices would be made openly for sale world wide.

Also, in a country where so many ppl get tossed in jail willy-nilly, I definitely think felons should have access to holding office and voting once time is served.  If you live here, pay taxes here, and got caught with an ounce when you were 19,  you should 100% have a vote in who your governor is.

Heavens knows that this country has never had an issue with citizens in government getting compromised by money foreign and/or domestic.

Yep, that's what I said.  But when governments, cartels, and any other supremely bad acting group could literally mail their own local to the Senate doorstep and install them with their money, that would be a pretty bad thing.
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: catastrophe on July 31, 2023, 06:38:22 PM
The non-citizen part is ridiculous. 


Why? You do know that there are places where non-citizens are allowed to vote in state and local elections, right? I'm looking at you real funny if you think felons can hold office but non-citizens can't.

My statement is with regard to higher office and non-citizens should absolutely not have access to those levels.  We live in a country where the quantity of money involved statistically can predict the winner of most elections.  We have major problems now with that.  I can't even imagine how bad it would get if those offices would be made openly for sale world wide.

Also, in a country where so many ppl get tossed in jail willy-nilly, I definitely think felons should have access to holding office and voting once time is served.  If you live here, pay taxes here, and got caught with an ounce when you were 19,  you should 100% have a vote in who your governor is.

Heavens knows that this country has never had an issue with citizens in government getting compromised by money foreign and/or domestic.

Yep, that's what I said.  But when governments, cartels, and any other supremely bad acting group could literally mail their own local to the Senate doorstep and install them with their money, that would be a pretty bad thing.
I personally do think citizenship should be required, but it would be a really crappy mechanism for addressing the types of problems you’re listing. You’d be better of with stricter campaign financing limitations.
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: CNS on July 31, 2023, 09:05:19 PM

I agree.  However, we have control of one of these things now while the other one left the barn a long time ago.
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: star seed 7 on July 31, 2023, 09:24:26 PM
It's cute that you people think senators actually do anything except vote how their staff or leadership tells them to.
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: yoga-like_abana on July 31, 2023, 10:17:55 PM
It's cute that you people think senators actually do anything except vote how their staff or leadership tells them to.
Hey, that’s my line bad person
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: steve dave on August 05, 2023, 07:38:21 AM
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Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: bucket on September 29, 2023, 07:39:37 AM
https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1707736297115115667
Title: Re: Diane, you're doing great!
Post by: wetwillie on September 29, 2023, 08:28:01 AM
great, now they are all going to try to die in office