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Title: Battle with Boomer
Post by: IPA4Me on February 14, 2023, 07:25:48 PM
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Go Cats!
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: wetwillie on February 14, 2023, 07:46:03 PM
bonus getting to watch Brad get run by Penn State on the U before our game
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: Hurricane Cat on February 14, 2023, 08:11:05 PM
bonus getting to watch Brad get run by Penn State on the U before our game

yes, surprising result
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 14, 2023, 08:15:53 PM
Lets just beat the effing boomer out of them.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: CNS on February 14, 2023, 08:16:29 PM
Empty arena.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: DaBigTrain on February 14, 2023, 08:19:42 PM
We started off like crap but playing better now
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: CNS on February 14, 2023, 08:21:49 PM
Nowell literally just physically wedged his body between two defenders bodies and hung there for a second.  No call.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: Skipper44 on February 14, 2023, 08:22:58 PM
Empty arena.
there will not be an easier road game than tonight and the start has not been encouraging
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 14, 2023, 08:24:04 PM
Empty arena.
OU hoops
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: deputy dawg on February 14, 2023, 08:24:24 PM
Is that Doc Sadler I see?
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: CNS on February 14, 2023, 08:28:41 PM
Their #35 looks like a stay at home dad who plays old man league on Saturdays.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 14, 2023, 08:30:22 PM
Ish playing hero ball (badly).
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 14, 2023, 08:40:01 PM
On our way to another near 20 TOs.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 14, 2023, 08:40:53 PM
DOBs
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: CNS on February 14, 2023, 08:45:24 PM
Tomlin in non-con form.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: michigancat on February 14, 2023, 08:47:24 PM
Tomlin in non-con form.
He's been fantastic
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: wiley on February 14, 2023, 08:48:53 PM
On our way to another near 20 TOs.
Only 5 so far, Nowell with none


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Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: I_have_purplewood on February 14, 2023, 08:51:08 PM
I'll be happy with the tie at half.  No way they stay that hot from 3.  Lord.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 14, 2023, 08:52:33 PM
Giving up too many offensive rebounds. Hopefully, we'll hit our 3s in the second half and they cool down.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on February 14, 2023, 08:53:03 PM
It's really frustrating that we always seem to play to the level of our competition.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: DaBigTrain on February 14, 2023, 08:55:11 PM
It's really frustrating that we always seem to play to the level of our competition.
Means we will have a deep tournament run!
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on February 14, 2023, 09:04:29 PM
It's really frustrating that we always seem to play to the level of our competition.
Means we will have a deep tournament run!

Neutral court may suggest this to be true!
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: Skipper44 on February 14, 2023, 09:10:07 PM
It's really frustrating that we always seem to play to the level of our competition.
Means we will have a deep tournament run!
Groves working us in the paint like a dad scrimmaging with 7th graders makes me nervous for our
5/12 matchup with the 3rd place team in the A10
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 14, 2023, 09:10:14 PM
When did Cam last have a good game?
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 14, 2023, 09:11:50 PM
They are going to blow the whistle this half
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: DaBigTrain on February 14, 2023, 09:13:22 PM
Jesus Christ
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 14, 2023, 09:13:54 PM
Getting in the habit of falling back in the second half
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 14, 2023, 09:15:52 PM
Yelp, ran into a hot 3-point shooting team. eff
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: Hurricane Cat on February 14, 2023, 09:17:30 PM
OU on a 16-2 run  :curse:
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 14, 2023, 09:20:54 PM
Can't score on the weakest defensive team in the league.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 14, 2023, 09:28:12 PM
OU wants it more
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on February 14, 2023, 09:29:52 PM
When your draining 3's, there is very little the other team can do
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: IPA4Me on February 14, 2023, 09:30:19 PM
Basketball is dumb.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 14, 2023, 09:30:33 PM
Are our Cats broken?

Where is N’Guessan?
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 14, 2023, 09:30:47 PM
Yelp we had a good January
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 14, 2023, 09:32:09 PM
Are our Cats broken?

Where is N’Guessan?

Reinjlured, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: 8manpick on February 14, 2023, 09:32:43 PM
Bad
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: DaBigTrain on February 14, 2023, 09:34:08 PM
Woof
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: DaBigTrain on February 14, 2023, 09:34:24 PM
Basketball is dumb.
Exactly. Who even cares?
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 14, 2023, 09:34:38 PM
Can't even stay in the game against OU. Offense and defense suck.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: wetwillie on February 14, 2023, 09:36:23 PM
Are our Cats broken?

Where is N’Guessan?

Coaching staff got exposed
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 14, 2023, 09:36:59 PM
Go on the road in January and beat two of the best teams in the league. Go on the road in February and lose to the two worst.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 14, 2023, 09:44:28 PM
We're just not good enough defensively to make up this kind of deficit.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: kstater on February 14, 2023, 09:46:16 PM
The good news, is not missing as many shots as earlier.   The bad news, turning it over half the possessions is why. 

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Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: DaBigTrain on February 14, 2023, 09:48:26 PM
OU did beat the #2 team in the country in Norman. It must be said.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: sys on February 14, 2023, 09:49:00 PM
assuming ou's lead holds, this will be 1-5 in the last six b12 games.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: DaBigTrain on February 14, 2023, 09:52:43 PM
Looks like we hit some adversity
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 14, 2023, 09:54:05 PM
assuming ou's lead holds, this will be 1-5 in the last six b12 games.
We've become the team were predicted to be
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: CNS on February 14, 2023, 09:56:04 PM
All considering, I’ll take it. This season has been a blast.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 14, 2023, 09:56:26 PM
Just as we sniff a chance, TOs hit again. Bad, stupid ones.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: pissclams on February 14, 2023, 09:59:17 PM
trashsketball
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 14, 2023, 10:04:07 PM
I hope we're a better defensive team in the future.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: Hurricane Cat on February 14, 2023, 10:06:39 PM
OU did beat the #2 team in the country in Norman. It must be said.

Must also be said, OU is coming in 0-7 in previous Big 12 games.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 14, 2023, 10:11:15 PM
Yeah, don't try to shine this turd.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: stunted on February 14, 2023, 10:12:41 PM
i was right all along
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: DaBigTrain on February 14, 2023, 10:12:42 PM
Damn kinda disappointed all 50 fans didn’t rush the court
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: MakeItRain on February 14, 2023, 10:13:54 PM
We don't guard anyone or anything on the road, giving up 80 to OU is inexcusable.

Also Tykei and Cam are not very good basketball players
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: CHONGS on February 14, 2023, 10:15:34 PM
It's like we've run out of gas, but more likely opposing coaches have adjusted. 

Let's hope we end the season strong.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: Hurricane Cat on February 14, 2023, 10:23:18 PM
We don't guard anyone or anything on the road, giving up 80 to OU is inexcusable.

Also Tykei and Cam are not very good basketball players

Agree, exposes lack of roster depth . . .
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 14, 2023, 10:26:50 PM
We also just let teams maul us on the road and we don't ever do anything about it.

Oh well, on to Iowa State.

Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: stunted on February 14, 2023, 10:28:15 PM
going to get worse next year. lose the best passing pg in our school history and an sec poy isn't likely to fall into our laps. plus tang has been figured out.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 14, 2023, 10:31:58 PM
Cam Carter goes 0 for the road trip. 0-3 at Tech, 0-4 tonight. Well, at least his 3-ball defense was equally sucky. How bad is Finister that he can't get any minutes?
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: DaBigTrain on February 14, 2023, 10:32:56 PM
:dunno:

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Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 14, 2023, 11:18:09 PM
https://twitter.com/kimptangdhan/status/1625707206518665216?s=20&t=gBYEGHxeU_aoS4Jv22rZjA
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 15, 2023, 12:15:19 AM
Yep
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: dal9 on February 15, 2023, 01:58:40 AM
wait is that really tang's wife/sister trash talking him?
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: Mr Bread on February 15, 2023, 07:56:02 AM
bonus getting to watch Brad get run by Penn State on the U before our game

yes, surprising result

Lot of that going around. 
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: KSNimrod on February 15, 2023, 08:01:42 AM
Are we the KU FB of basketball???   :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: Skipper44 on February 15, 2023, 02:52:57 PM
Are we the KU FB of basketball???   :horrorsurprise:
denied, at 7 wins we are guaranteed to have a higher conference winning % but after last night a tie for 7th place is still possible  :don'tcare:
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: yoga-like_abana on February 15, 2023, 02:57:35 PM
Last night I kept thinking.. Man I can't believe we are getting curb stomped by chavez and the rest of the regulators
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: IPA4Me on February 15, 2023, 03:44:58 PM
Fitz got some heat from Key's momma last night. Love to see it.

https://twitter.com/NikaJohnson11/status/1625714753535455233
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: WildcatNkilt on February 15, 2023, 03:48:54 PM
I had family members in text chains telling me to "have faith and patience" and they "liked the Tang hire" after I told them we are playing like garbage and that Tang hasn't impressed me with his adjustments over the last month and was getting clowned by other coaches.  Two mutually exclusive things.  Sometimes our fans are so brainwashed they refuse to hear criticism.  I never once said I wanted Tang fired or anything close to that.  It's amazing what people choose to hear/read/comprehend.  Makes it hard to be a fan sometimes when you deal with so many people who can't take off the purple sunglasses and look at a situation objectively. 
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: michigancat on February 15, 2023, 03:52:57 PM
I think they're mostly just tired. It's a really thin bench.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: WildcatNkilt on February 15, 2023, 03:54:17 PM
Fitz got some heat from Key's momma last night. Love to see it.

https://twitter.com/NikaJohnson11/status/1625714753535455233

Fitz isn't wrong.  I was thinking the same thing, and it has nothing to do with him not playing hard.  The dude looks like he hit a mid-season wall. 

Keyontae isn't alone.  Tomlin looks like he hit a mid-season wall as well (which makes sense as he hasn't played at this level).  Fatigue causes poor fundamentals, and we have enough turnovers to feed a small village. 
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: wetwillie on February 15, 2023, 03:55:04 PM
Our starters aren’t playing anymore minutes than the other teams in the top 5 with the exception of KU who plays more.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: Spracne on February 15, 2023, 05:04:17 PM
This was all foretold in the Book of MakeItRain. Keep the faith, cats fans.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: michigancat on February 15, 2023, 06:34:56 PM
Our starters aren’t playing anymore minutes than the other teams in the top 5 with the exception of KU who plays more.

Marquis and JOHNSON are 1st and 3rd in the league in minutes and they are probably more valuable to our success than any other team's best duo in the league. (probably, I don't watch anyone else). They are both tired and no one else could be considered an above-average Big 12 player (other than TOMLIN sometimes).

******CORRECTED AFTER BRAIN FART*****
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: wetwillie on February 15, 2023, 07:04:51 PM
Our starters aren’t playing anymore minutes than the other teams in the top 5 with the exception of KU who plays more.

Marquis and Nowell are 1st and 3rd in the league in minutes and they are probably more valuable to our success than any other team's best duo in the league. (probably, I don't watch anyone else). They are both tired and no one else could be considered an above-average Big 12 player (other than Nowell sometimes).

I think those are the same person
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: schreds21 on February 15, 2023, 07:33:43 PM
 :ROFL:
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: michigancat on February 15, 2023, 07:34:40 PM
Lol what am I doing
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: DaBigTrain on February 15, 2023, 10:40:01 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: MakeItRain on February 15, 2023, 10:50:48 PM
I had family members in text chains telling me to "have faith and patience" and they "liked the Tang hire" after I told them we are playing like garbage and that Tang hasn't impressed me with his adjustments over the last month and was getting clowned by other coaches.  Two mutually exclusive things.  Sometimes our fans are so brainwashed they refuse to hear criticism.  I never once said I wanted Tang fired or anything close to that.  It's amazing what people choose to hear/read/comprehend.  Makes it hard to be a fan sometimes when you deal with so many people who can't take off the purple sunglasses and look at a situation objectively.

With all due respect, this is stupid. If you're claiming "he's getting clowned by coaches" you're going to need to provide details on that. What are coaches doing to clown him, what adjustments is he needing to make that he isn't? Presumably these coaches are doing something different each game given personnel. What did Tang do in the first Texas Tech game that he didn't the second, what adjustments did Adams make that Tang couldn't figure out?
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: WildcatNkilt on February 16, 2023, 11:04:29 AM
I had family members in text chains telling me to "have faith and patience" and they "liked the Tang hire" after I told them we are playing like garbage and that Tang hasn't impressed me with his adjustments over the last month and was getting clowned by other coaches.  Two mutually exclusive things.  Sometimes our fans are so brainwashed they refuse to hear criticism.  I never once said I wanted Tang fired or anything close to that.  It's amazing what people choose to hear/read/comprehend.  Makes it hard to be a fan sometimes when you deal with so many people who can't take off the purple sunglasses and look at a situation objectively.

With all due respect, this is stupid. If you're claiming "he's getting clowned by coaches" you're going to need to provide details on that. What are coaches doing to clown him, what adjustments is he needing to make that he isn't? Presumably these coaches are doing something different each game given personnel. What did Tang do in the first Texas Tech game that he didn't the second, what adjustments did Adams make that Tang couldn't figure out?

Getting clowned = getting outcoached.  Leads are blown.  Players are not adjusting to the game.  Putting Keyontae in position to pick up two quick fouls in first 3 minutes of games.  Last game we were double teaming down low and giving them wide open looks at 3.  OU missed in the 1st half on 3's but was killing us in the 2nd.  Moser stuck with his gameplan as he saw the potential if those 3's started going in.  Why are we not adjusting to that?  Why are we blowing a 10-point lead to Texas at home?   

It's a bad stretch, but a lot of points of failure we are not fixing.  Tang is getting outcoached because the other coaches are exposing our weaknesses (Keyontae's aggressiveness driving to basket, Nowell's careless passing, team's over-aggressive style of play, etc.).  Have you noticed the opposing teams anticipating all these bad Nowell drive passes?  Turnovers are out of control.  Some of these guys would have been benched during the Huggins/Martin days. 

We've only beat a Miles Jr.-less team at home since Jan 21st.  We have a good team, but they are in a funk and the coaches haven't figured out how to get past it (yet).  I think Tang will figure it out (I think).   
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: wetwillie on February 16, 2023, 12:19:20 PM
I think you can make a solid argument that Tangs coaching made a group of players that had no business being at the top of the league look a lot better than they are in the first half of the season. Then the league inevitably adjusted and he has no counter.  The one thing that has been concerning for me is watching Cam Carter regress, he was shooting decently from 3 and breaking people down off the dribble and now is dribbling it off his foot and shooting airballs.  I had high hopes for him next year being a seasoned guard and now I don’t know what to expect.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: CNS on February 16, 2023, 12:23:09 PM
I think you can make a solid argument that Tangs coaching made a group of players that had no business being at the top of the league look a lot better than they are in the first half of the season. Then the league inevitably adjusted and he has no counter.  The one thing that has been concerning for me is watching Cam Carter regress, he was shooting decently from 3 and breaking people down off the dribble and now is dribbling it off his foot and shooting airballs.  I had high hopes for him next year being a seasoned guard and now I don’t know what to expect.

A very large amount of next year's success rely on two freshman guards, imo. 
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: wetwillie on February 16, 2023, 12:29:36 PM
I think it will be transfers imo, Dai Dai and RJ will play but if they are 30 minutes a game players next year we are in trouble.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: CNS on February 16, 2023, 12:32:09 PM
I think it will be transfers imo, Dai Dai and RJ will play but if they are 30 minutes a game players next year we are in trouble.

Agreed.  Will be interesting to see how it mixes up.  I would love if Dai Dai and RJ could be that player, however the odds are against even one of them being that, let alone both.

I am looking forward to Colbert playing. 
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: wetwillie on February 16, 2023, 12:34:31 PM
I hope Nguessan isn’t perpetually injured.  I liked what I saw from him healthy.  Tang has talked up Manning too. I’m hoping this year is the least talented roster Tang coaches at KSU.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: star seed 7 on February 16, 2023, 12:51:54 PM
I keep seeing the thread title and thinking it's a pit thread for dax
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: CNS on February 16, 2023, 12:53:29 PM
Swiss army knife type title for sure.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 16, 2023, 01:02:22 PM
I hope Nguessan isn’t perpetually injured.  I liked what I saw from him healthy.  Tang has talked up Manning too. I’m hoping this year is the least talented roster Tang coaches at KSU.
N'Guessan has one more year of eligibility, right?
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: Spracne on February 16, 2023, 01:08:16 PM
I keep seeing the thread title and thinking it's a pit thread for dax

 :lol:
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: wetwillie on February 16, 2023, 01:31:59 PM
I hope Nguessan isn’t perpetually injured.  I liked what I saw from him healthy.  Tang has talked up Manning too. I’m hoping this year is the least talented roster Tang coaches at KSU.
N'Guessan has one more year of eligibility, right?

I think so.  We are losing KJ, Nowell, Bay Bay, Greene, Desi  for sure.   Wouldn’t surprise me if Ish moves on.   With 3 coming in probably looking at 2 transfer guards and a wing.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 16, 2023, 01:38:14 PM
lolz
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 16, 2023, 01:40:06 PM
I still have faith this team is going to get it together and give us more thrills.
Title: Re: Battle with Boomer
Post by: CNS on February 16, 2023, 02:08:44 PM
I still have faith this team is going to get it together and give us more thrills.

Oh, for sure.