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Title: TT 2
Post by: CHONGS on February 11, 2023, 06:12:53 PM
I have low T probably, but I think we're going struggle to get a win.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: CHONGS on February 11, 2023, 06:27:11 PM
We have so much trouble with put backs by the rim.  We get the o rebound but then inevitably put the ball down low to make a dribble or double clutch and it gets taken away.

I felt we did a better job of not doing that earlier in the year
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: zackole1 on February 11, 2023, 06:35:52 PM
another sloppy game with 9 turnovers already.... can't put the ball back in the hoop...
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: kim carnes on February 11, 2023, 06:35:59 PM
They’re really bad so hopefully we pull it out!
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: zackole1 on February 11, 2023, 06:38:55 PM
40% free throw percentage... need to wake these guys up!!
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: michigancat on February 11, 2023, 06:43:10 PM
Every league road game will be tough
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 11, 2023, 06:48:53 PM
So far 33% of possessions have ended in turnovers per fan


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Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 11, 2023, 06:54:38 PM
What a crap show half
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: sys on February 11, 2023, 06:56:11 PM
that's a lot of turnovers.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: wetwillie on February 11, 2023, 06:56:17 PM
14 turnovers, lol.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: zackole1 on February 11, 2023, 06:56:51 PM
14 turnovers in first half... when a team has the same problem game after game after game and it's not corrected or addressed it gets back to coaching... Tangs need to make changes to correct this problem...
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: Purple Derpathy on February 11, 2023, 06:57:37 PM
More trash basketball in first half. Let's hope we turn it around again. In Tang we trust.

I'd let Desi roll point and sit Noelle. His decision making sucks.


Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 11, 2023, 06:57:38 PM
Nowell on pace for another 6 turnover game.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: Hurricane Cat on February 11, 2023, 06:58:53 PM
Nowell's having another rough game  . . . 1-9 shooting, 2 assists, 3 to's in first half
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: nicname on February 11, 2023, 06:59:18 PM
We don’t move basketball well enough. We don’t reverse the basketball enough to get the defense loosened up for good openings. Then we force drives and passes into ready defense.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: Hurricane Cat on February 11, 2023, 07:00:28 PM
Nowell on pace for another 6 turnover game.

so is Desi and Tomlin  :frown:
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: Purple Derpathy on February 11, 2023, 07:04:00 PM
Let's just drain 3s this second half non stop. Tech sucks. This should not be competitive.
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Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: wetwillie on February 11, 2023, 07:06:00 PM
Second half game plan is to let Swish Massoud shoot 15 three’s and live with the result.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: Purple Derpathy on February 11, 2023, 07:08:04 PM
Second half game plan is to let Swish Massoud shoot 15 three’s and live with the result.

Green light all day.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: Cire on February 11, 2023, 07:10:58 PM
Just incredibly awful


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Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: Purple Derpathy on February 11, 2023, 07:15:34 PM
We got this. 3s coming
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: Purple Derpathy on February 11, 2023, 07:18:42 PM
Terrible call on KJ
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 11, 2023, 07:22:39 PM
So many adorbs on this team but goddam, I sometimes hate some of these guys.  I am irrational I know
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: wetwillie on February 11, 2023, 07:24:52 PM
We are letting the threes fly at least
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: CNS on February 11, 2023, 07:32:08 PM
Tomlin is the weakest big off the catch when in the paint in the conference.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: Purple Derpathy on February 11, 2023, 07:35:15 PM
Catch and shoot immediately
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: wetwillie on February 11, 2023, 07:40:36 PM
TTU is so bad that we could still win this and maybe by double digits
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: michigancat on February 11, 2023, 07:43:21 PM
The flop rule is so terrible
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: CNS on February 11, 2023, 07:47:38 PM
The flop rule is so terrible

Yes and it is implemented as inconsistently as possible.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: Purple Derpathy on February 11, 2023, 07:49:24 PM
These 3s want to drop now
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on February 11, 2023, 07:50:07 PM
DOB Greene time
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: Purple Derpathy on February 11, 2023, 07:53:16 PM
This game might kill me.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: michigancat on February 11, 2023, 07:57:33 PM
Are Johnson and Nowell fighting? :frown:
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: Purple Derpathy on February 11, 2023, 07:58:39 PM
Are Johnson and Nowell fighting? :frown:

Yes. Big time
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: Purple Derpathy on February 11, 2023, 08:00:51 PM
Remind me why we play Carter
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: CNS on February 11, 2023, 08:01:39 PM
ESPN play by play really likes the tech threes.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: wetwillie on February 11, 2023, 08:04:54 PM
Remind me why we play Carter

Because the alternative isn’t any better
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: Purple Derpathy on February 11, 2023, 08:05:11 PM
ESPN play by play really likes the tech threes.

KJ says not so fast my friend
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: Purple Derpathy on February 11, 2023, 08:08:02 PM
We don't deserve to win this.....but I hope we do
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: zackole1 on February 11, 2023, 08:08:59 PM
pathetic...
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: kim carnes on February 11, 2023, 08:11:42 PM
Just two good teams exchanging blows
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: michigancat on February 11, 2023, 08:11:44 PM
pathetic...
Eh it's fine lol
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: CNS on February 11, 2023, 08:12:53 PM
Keyonte left his hands and his touch in his other gym bag.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: michigancat on February 11, 2023, 08:14:05 PM
Is Sean Sutton coaching with covid?
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: CHONGS on February 11, 2023, 08:15:12 PM
Bad loss. Yeah its hard to win on the road, but this is a bad loss.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: cfbandyman on February 11, 2023, 08:15:23 PM
Not a good loss, I get winning on the road is hard but this basically ices us out of winning the conference
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: CHONGS on February 11, 2023, 08:15:44 PM
They tried to give it to us too.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: wetwillie on February 11, 2023, 08:16:12 PM
Not a good loss, I get winning on the road is hard but this basically ices us out of winning the conference

That happened when we lost at home to UT
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: Purple Derpathy on February 11, 2023, 08:17:33 PM
This bad loss wouldn't be concerning except we've lost a lot our our past few games.

Regardless, we just need more Dudes and they are coming next year.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: CHONGS on February 11, 2023, 08:17:45 PM
Still is amazing how quickly the expectations were raised.  That's a good thing.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on February 11, 2023, 08:19:14 PM
Tang can’t tell me (a fan) to expect to win from now on if they lose to the worst team in the conference
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: sys on February 11, 2023, 08:20:14 PM
tech deserves the win.  happy for them.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: Hurricane Cat on February 11, 2023, 08:21:00 PM
Still is amazing how quickly the expectations were raised.  That's a good thing.

Very true, and I fully expected to win against 1-10 Tech

so much squandered opportunities  :facepalm:
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: Purple Derpathy on February 11, 2023, 08:21:34 PM
LoL, best part of this game is the court storming!!! We are elite
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: michigancat on February 11, 2023, 08:24:38 PM
tech deserves the win.  happy for them.
Yep. They are better than their record
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 11, 2023, 08:26:31 PM
Didn't deserve to win, probably would have been bad for the team had they pulled it out. Until this team starts valuing the ball, it is a bad team that likely will finish sixth or seventh in the conference. Nowell has become a liability on half our offense possessions.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 11, 2023, 08:36:57 PM
GG Iyiola. Rest of the team sucked.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: michigancat on February 11, 2023, 08:40:04 PM
Didn't deserve to win, probably would have been bad for the team had they pulled it out. Until this team starts valuing the ball, it is a bad team that likely will finish sixth or seventh in the conference. Nowell has become a liability on half our offense possessions.
Lol relax
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: nicname on February 11, 2023, 08:48:49 PM
This team's refusal to reverse the basketball in the half court offense is its Achilles heel. It forces drives, passes, low-percentage shots and leads to turnovers, because the defense isn't forced to defend side-to-side and loosen up a bit. We're always trying to score of the first or second action and Big 12 defenses and coaches are shutting us down repeatedly and often making us look foolish.



Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 11, 2023, 08:54:34 PM
I don't think I will relax. Neither the team nor Nowell is showing the ability to overcome turnovers. Inexcusable. We can't run half-court offense without turning the ball over, so we try to be up-tempo and turn the ball over.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: michigancat on February 11, 2023, 09:03:48 PM


I don't think I will relax. Neither the team nor Nowell is showing the ability to overcome turnovers. Inexcusable. We can't run half-court offense without turning the ball over, so we try to be up-tempo and turn the ball over.

It's excusable
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: stunted on February 11, 2023, 09:12:20 PM
I guess God didn’t want us to win
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on February 11, 2023, 09:29:23 PM
Didn't deserve to win, probably would have been bad for the team had they pulled it out. Until this team starts valuing the ball, it is a bad team that likely will finish sixth or seventh in the conference. Nowell has become a liability on half our offense possessions.
Lol relax

It’s fine to be upset. We just lost to the worst team in the conference, and looked like white hot dogshit in the process. And on top of that we really haven’t been playing so great the last couple weeks. If this isn’ta completely reasonable time to be frustrated then I don’t know what is
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: nicname on February 11, 2023, 09:34:38 PM
Texas Tech and Texas at home are huge eyesores. At KU too if we're being honest.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: sys on February 11, 2023, 11:47:15 PM
i think ou is worse than tech.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 12, 2023, 12:58:41 AM
Just understand that the resident too cool for school crowd is going accept turning the ball over on 30% of the possessions and move on
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: michigancat on February 12, 2023, 07:53:04 AM
Just understand that the resident too cool for school crowd is going accept turning the ball over on 30% of the possessions and move on

I don't want anyone on the staff fired. Don't think you change rotations in any way. I'm not going to run practices, so yeah, I'm going to move on. What are you going to do?
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: wetwillie on February 12, 2023, 07:56:39 AM
Write a scathing letter to Gene
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: IPA4Me on February 12, 2023, 08:22:54 AM
Whine on a message board.

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Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: Mr Bread on February 12, 2023, 08:56:05 AM
Not at all uncommon to get a little poop on your tang from time to time.  Happens to everyone.  Get it nice and wet and it comes right off.  #slickdicksnotshitdicks  :bball:
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on February 12, 2023, 09:01:03 AM
The reactions by KSU fans to last nights game has been, honestly, troubling. To those who have flocked to a ksu sports message board and expressed frustration…stop being so incredibly weird. Do the normal thing and infiltrate the athletic staff so that you can either run practice yourself or get the coaches responsible fired. Ideally, just take over the role of AD so you can clean house wherever necessary.

But this whole flocking to a message board and expressing frustration instead of immediately getting over it and moving on…it had to stop.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: michigancat on February 12, 2023, 09:12:56 AM
The reactions by KSU fans to last nights game has been, honestly, troubling. To those who have flocked to a ksu sports message board and expressed frustration…stop being so incredibly weird. Do the normal thing and infiltrate the athletic staff so that you can either run practice yourself or get the coaches responsible fired. Ideally, just take over the role of AD so you can clean house wherever necessary.

But this whole flocking to a message board and expressing frustration instead of immediately getting over it and moving on…it had to stop.

LOL you need to relax, too
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: catastrophe on February 12, 2023, 09:18:05 AM
On the one hand, it’s hard to imagine we’ll make a deep tourney run this year if we can’t pull out games like last night.

On the other hand, good on Tang for raising the bar so much that games like that hurt as much as they do.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: michigancat on February 12, 2023, 09:21:54 AM
On the one hand, it’s hard to imagine we’ll make a deep tourney run this year if we can’t pull out games like last night.

The team can pull out games like last night. They just didn't this time
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: wetwillie on February 12, 2023, 09:26:09 AM
Quis and KJ need special coaching help to recognize and mitigate the double teams.  The turnovers are largely coming from those situations.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 12, 2023, 10:02:39 AM
Just understand that the resident too cool for school crowd is going accept turning the ball over on 30% of the possessions and move on

I don't want anyone on the staff fired. Don't think you change rotations in any way. I'm not going to run practices, so yeah, I'm going to move on. What are you going to do?

LMAO, who said anything about firing anybody, changing rotations or running practice?  Are there people wanting coaches fired?  Where?

Valuing the ball and playing a little smarter isn't going to hurt the cool or fun factor of the game/team/program. 

 
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: wetwillie on February 12, 2023, 10:06:15 AM
Sounds like you have accepted the 30% TO rate and moved on, sad really.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: yoga-like_abana on February 12, 2023, 10:21:22 AM
Sounds like you have accepted the 30% TO rate and moved on, sad really.
#Purpleanon #dax  :cool:
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on February 12, 2023, 10:44:54 AM
Quis and KJ need special coaching help to recognize and mitigate the double teams.  The turnovers are largely coming from those situations.

Already been said but there were some absolutely putrid, terrible TOs in that game last night. It looks like Keyontae's handle is not working anymore (probably needs to adjust to double teams or something) and Markquis had some horrible TOs - just flinging the ball as hard as he could at a teammate's feet to throwing it toward nobody in particular. I love my Cats and Coach Tang and I have faith that everything is going to be okay and the season will end up exceeding expectations when all is said and done but the TOs were really, really bad last night.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 12, 2023, 11:17:15 AM
Sounds like you have accepted the 30% TO rate and moved on, sad really.

I don't know how you got that out of what I said, but if you need to think that  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: EMAWzifried on February 12, 2023, 12:24:09 PM
Just understand that the resident too cool for school crowd is going accept turning the ball over on 30% of the possessions and move on

I don't want anyone on the staff fired. Don't think you change rotations in any way. I'm not going to run practices, so yeah, I'm going to move on. What are you going to do?

Scream "eff KU" until the TOs cease.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: MakeItRain on February 12, 2023, 02:30:21 PM
Tomlin is the weakest big off the catch when in the paint in the conference.

Well, he isn't a back to the basket big, so there's that.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: MakeItRain on February 12, 2023, 02:33:51 PM
Not a good loss, I get winning on the road is hard but this basically ices us out of winning the conference

That happened when we lost at home to UT

Neither of these things are true. I don't know how y'all can continue to watch good college basketball teams lose head scratching games, every damn night, and think all of a sudden this is going to stop. We're pretty much out of chances at this point but I have zero confidence that Texas is good enough to go though their schedule without taking two losses.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: MakeItRain on February 12, 2023, 02:34:24 PM
Still is amazing how quickly the expectations were raised.  That's a good thing.

YES!
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: MakeItRain on February 12, 2023, 02:37:42 PM
On the one hand, it’s hard to imagine we’ll make a deep tourney run this year if we can’t pull out games like last night.

On the other hand, good on Tang for raising the bar so much that games like that hurt as much as they do.

Tournaments aren't played on the road. Too many people are being emo about last night, better than apathy, I guess.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 12, 2023, 02:57:18 PM
A short but expected heater
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: MakeItRain on February 13, 2023, 10:12:12 PM
Not a good loss, I get winning on the road is hard but this basically ices us out of winning the conference

That happened when we lost at home to UT

Neither of these things are true. I don't know how y'all can continue to watch good college basketball teams lose head scratching games, every damn night, and think all of a sudden this is going to stop. We're pretty much out of chances at this point but I have zero confidence that Texas is good enough to go though their schedule without taking two losses.

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Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: wetwillie on February 13, 2023, 10:21:01 PM
Well I’ll be damned
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: catastrophe on February 13, 2023, 10:39:57 PM
TTU is on a rampage.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: Spracne on February 13, 2023, 11:13:37 PM
This league is nuts. OSU (!) is on a 5 game winning streak. We beat them tomorrow (in their place), and we're tied for no. 1. We lose, and we're basically no. 7, ignoring ties and the outcome of y'alls game. This is a big game.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: Hurricane Cat on February 13, 2023, 11:48:17 PM
This league is nuts. OSU (!) is on a 5 game winning streak. We beat them tomorrow (in their place), and we're tied for no. 1. We lose, and we're basically no. 7, ignoring ties and the outcome of y'alls game. This is a big game.

It really is a good time to be a Big 12 Basketball fan!
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on February 14, 2023, 07:32:58 AM
This league is nuts. OSU (!) is on a 5 game winning streak. We beat them tomorrow (in their place), and we're tied for no. 1. We lose, and we're basically no. 7, ignoring ties and the outcome of y'alls game. This is a big game.

The amount of parity in the league this year is on par with the other conferences except on a comically exaggerated scale
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: CNS on February 14, 2023, 10:11:11 AM
This league is nuts. OSU (!) is on a 5 game winning streak. We beat them tomorrow (in their place), and we're tied for no. 1. We lose, and we're basically no. 7, ignoring ties and the outcome of y'alls game. This is a big game.

The amount of parity in the league this year is on par with the other conferences except on a comically exaggerated scale

I wish it was like this every year.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on February 14, 2023, 10:12:57 AM
This league is nuts. OSU (!) is on a 5 game winning streak. We beat them tomorrow (in their place), and we're tied for no. 1. We lose, and we're basically no. 7, ignoring ties and the outcome of y'alls game. This is a big game.

The amount of parity in the league this year is on par with the other conferences except on a comically exaggerated scale

I wish it was like this every year.

it is kinda wild that like, on monday morning you can be in 6th place and its entirely possible that by saturday night you'll be in first or second.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: MakeItRain on February 14, 2023, 01:07:53 PM
Enjoy it while it lasts because it's dunzo in a 14 team conference
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: michigancat on February 14, 2023, 01:15:49 PM
I wish we could be a 10 team conference forever. :frown:
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: wetwillie on February 14, 2023, 01:22:04 PM
Better to be a 16 team conference than join the mountain west is what I always say.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: CNS on February 14, 2023, 01:38:48 PM
I wish we could be a 10 team conference forever. :frown:

Same. Home and home is something all conferences should be required to have. I love it.
Title: Re: TT 2
Post by: nicname on February 14, 2023, 06:06:47 PM
I wish we could be a 10 team conference forever. :frown:

Same. Home and home is something all conferences should be required to have. I love it.

We've been truly blessed.