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The Cats are tied for first in the conference right now. How many wins will it take to claim another regular season Phillips 66? Would 15-3 cover it?
https://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/big-12/standings (https://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/big-12/standings)
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The Cats are tied for first in the conference right now. How many wins will it take to claim another regular season Phillips 66? Would 15-3 cover it?
https://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/big-12/standings (https://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/big-12/standings)
I think 14-4 gets it done this year. Which bodes well for us if history is any indication (ty oscar).
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The Cats are tied for first in the conference right now. How many wins will it take to claim another regular season Phillips 66? Would 15-3 cover it?
https://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/big-12/standings (https://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/big-12/standings)
I think 14-4 gets it done this year. Which bodes well for us if history is any indication (ty oscar).
Yeah, I agree with 14-4, that gets a share, 15-3 outright
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The Cats are tied for first in the conference right now. How many wins will it take to claim another regular season Phillips 66? Would 15-3 cover it?
https://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/big-12/standings (https://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/big-12/standings)
I think 14-4 gets it done this year. Which bodes well for us if history is any indication (ty oscar).
Yeah, I agree with 14-4, that gets a share, 15-3 outright
Which game does ku win on the road between UT, ISU, TCU? Or are you figuring ku might not necessarily be in the equation?
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14-4 I think wins it outright. Big 12 gonna beat the eff out of each other for next 12 games. Seems pretty unlikely more than one of the teams at 5-1 can go 9-3 to finish.
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14-4 I think wins it outright. Big 12 gonna beat the eff out of each other for next 12 games. Seems pretty unlikely more than one of the teams at 5-1 can go 9-3 to finish.
Seems like it happens every year, though. I wouldn't be very comfortable about our chances if we finish 8-4.
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ku isn’t deep enough to go 13-3
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P sure KP doesn’t have a single team projected above 13-5
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Pretty standard for projection systems to tend toward less extreme results and have a team hit it with small sample variance to exceed expectations.
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The Cats are tied for first in the conference right now. How many wins will it take to claim another regular season Phillips 66? Would 15-3 cover it?
https://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/big-12/standings (https://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/big-12/standings)
I think 14-4 gets it done this year. Which bodes well for us if history is any indication (ty oscar).
Yeah, I agree with 14-4, that gets a share, 15-3 outright
Which game does ku win on the road between UT, ISU, TCU? Or are you figuring ku might not necessarily be in the equation?
They can win or lose any game left on their schedule, including Kentucky this weekend.
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I'm an advanced stats n00b but I'm noticing a couple of things from these charts:
1. 1/3 of the conference season is in the books.
2. There are a lot of tough games left to play.
https://twitter.com/ksu_FAN/status/1616116290875260928?s=20&t=2YLXUjYNUPxbnxxa7OJkww
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Out of our remaining road games, how many do we lose? I think we could play very, very good basketball and lose 4 more on the road @KU, @ISU, @OSU, and @WVU.
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We lose two of those, tops.
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We should be extremely pleased if we finish 13-5 or better. We’ll probably drop 1 at home and 3 more on the road. Book it.
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I'm an advanced stats n00b but I'm noticing a couple of things from these charts:
1. 1/3 of the conference season is in the books.
2. There are a lot of tough games left to play.
https://twitter.com/ksu_FAN/status/1616116290875260928?s=20&t=2YLXUjYNUPxbnxxa7OJkww
These stats — and our sterling record in close/OT games — lead me to believe we’ve been very fortunate.
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I'm an advanced stats n00b but I'm noticing a couple of things from these charts:
1. 1/3 of the conference season is in the books.
2. There are a lot of tough games left to play.
https://twitter.com/ksu_FAN/status/1616116290875260928?s=20&t=2YLXUjYNUPxbnxxa7OJkww
These stats — and our sterling record in close/OT games — lead me to believe we’ve been very fortunate.
Probably yes, to a degree. But I also think since this team is so new to each other that they have a higher ceiling than some other teams that have been together longer. And good teams win close games. That said, I don't think we'll win the conference and I'm ok with that.
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I'm an advanced stats n00b but I'm noticing a couple of things from these charts:
1. 1/3 of the conference season is in the books.
2. There are a lot of tough games left to play.
https://twitter.com/ksu_FAN/status/1616116290875260928?s=20&t=2YLXUjYNUPxbnxxa7OJkww
These stats — and our sterling record in close/OT games — lead me to believe we’ve been very fortunate.
Probably yes, to a degree. But I also think since this team is so new to each other that they have a higher ceiling than some other teams that have been together longer. And good teams win close games. That said, I don't think we'll win the conference and I'm ok with that.
Having three bucket finders and good free throw shooters DOES bode well for us tho!
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Any word on N'Guessan's return?
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Any word on N'Guessan's return?
YOUR GUESSANS AS GOOD AS MINE!
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He at least warmed up last game. I have a feeling he’ll probably be back next weekend. Goddamn walking boots and K-State needs to stop!
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We lose two of those, tops.
Yeah, mentally @ku and @isu are losses.
That being said, if we can hold serve at home, I like our chances @ou and @osu. So 15-3 is a ceiling, a few extra road stumbles puts us probably at 13-5, with and/or a home loss. A collapse after 6 games imo is not having 10 wins.
At this point though, god help the team we play if it goes into OT. We rule OT
It is crazy to think in my mind going into this season I would be happy with 6+ conference wins, now not getting that 6th win would be stunz and wacks wet dream
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Any word on N'Guessan's return?
Fran said "a couple of weeks away" during the broadcast
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We lose two of those, tops.
Yeah, mentally @ku and @isu are losses.
That being said, if we can hold serve at home, I like our chances @ou and @osu. So 15-3 is a ceiling, a few extra road stumbles puts us probably at 13-5, with and/or a home loss. A collapse after 6 games imo is not having 10 wins.
We're winning in the piss barn
(https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/C4E12AQEtyfp6Mnm7OA/article-cover_image-shrink_720_1280/0/1537823399696?e=2147483647&v=beta&t=2Wb1ico3T6W_t3NP8jrFeVIQ2vluFPA7mLqjHQsLfWM)
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KJ said that OSU was the toughest defensive team we have played this year. @OSU scares me. An off-night on shooting could easily turn into a loss.
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KJ said that OSU was the toughest defensive team we have played this year. @OSU scares me. An off-night on shooting could easily turn into a loss.
If any of our players are agoraphobic then that also doesn’t bode well for the trip to G-I-A
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I'm an advanced stats n00b but I'm noticing a couple of things from these charts:
1. 1/3 of the conference season is in the books.
2. There are a lot of tough games left to play.
https://twitter.com/ksu_FAN/status/1616116290875260928?s=20&t=2YLXUjYNUPxbnxxa7OJkww
These stats — and our sterling record in close/OT games — lead me to believe we’ve been very fortunate.
Probably yes, to a degree. But I also think since this team is so new to each other that they have a higher ceiling than some other teams that have been together longer. And good teams win close games. That said, I don't think we'll win the conference and I'm ok with that.
Having three bucket finders and good free throw shooters DOES bode well for us tho!
Yeah, I don't think 4-0 in OT games is totally sustainable but we have one of the best assist guys in the nation, a guy who can create his own shot, a coach that is great out of timeouts, and strong FT shooting. Our record in close games involves some luck but we should keep winning those at a higher clip than we lose.
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I'm an advanced stats n00b but I'm noticing a couple of things from these charts:
1. 1/3 of the conference season is in the books.
2. There are a lot of tough games left to play.
https://twitter.com/ksu_FAN/status/1616116290875260928?s=20&t=2YLXUjYNUPxbnxxa7OJkww
These stats — and our sterling record in close/OT games — lead me to believe we’ve been very fortunate.
Probably yes, to a degree. But I also think since this team is so new to each other that they have a higher ceiling than some other teams that have been together longer. And good teams win close games. That said, I don't think we'll win the conference and I'm ok with that.
Having three bucket finders and good free throw shooters DOES bode well for us tho!
Yeah, I don't think 4-0 in OT games is totally sustainable but we have one of the best assist guys in the nation, a guy who can create his own shot, a coach that is great out of timeouts, and strong FT shooting. Our record in close games involves some luck but we should keep winning those at a higher clip than we lose.
I'm pretty low BBIQ but this seems like a great recipe for success / fun basketball in March.
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I'm an advanced stats n00b but I'm noticing a couple of things from these charts:
1. 1/3 of the conference season is in the books.
2. There are a lot of tough games left to play.
https://twitter.com/ksu_FAN/status/1616116290875260928?s=20&t=2YLXUjYNUPxbnxxa7OJkww
These stats — and our sterling record in close/OT games — lead me to believe we’ve been very fortunate.
Probably yes, to a degree. But I also think since this team is so new to each other that they have a higher ceiling than some other teams that have been together longer. And good teams win close games. That said, I don't think we'll win the conference and I'm ok with that.
Having three bucket finders and good free throw shooters DOES bode well for us tho!
Yeah, I don't think 4-0 in OT games is totally sustainable but we have one of the best assist guys in the nation, a guy who can create his own shot, a coach that is great out of timeouts, and strong FT shooting. Our record in close games involves some luck but we should keep winning those at a higher clip than we lose.
I'm pretty low BBIQ but this seems like a great recipe for success / fun basketball in March.
I think this team's Achilles heal for a deep tourney run is the defense. So far our offense has been able to overcome holes on the defense but that will get much tougher to do in the tournament.
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I'm an advanced stats n00b but I'm noticing a couple of things from these charts:
1. 1/3 of the conference season is in the books.
2. There are a lot of tough games left to play.
https://twitter.com/ksu_FAN/status/1616116290875260928?s=20&t=2YLXUjYNUPxbnxxa7OJkww
These stats — and our sterling record in close/OT games — lead me to believe we’ve been very fortunate.
Probably yes, to a degree. But I also think since this team is so new to each other that they have a higher ceiling than some other teams that have been together longer. And good teams win close games. That said, I don't think we'll win the conference and I'm ok with that.
Having three bucket finders and good free throw shooters DOES bode well for us tho!
Yeah, I don't think 4-0 in OT games is totally sustainable but we have one of the best assist guys in the nation, a guy who can create his own shot, a coach that is great out of timeouts, and strong FT shooting. Our record in close games involves some luck but we should keep winning those at a higher clip than we lose.
I'm pretty low BBIQ but this seems like a great recipe for success / fun basketball in March.
Agree
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I'm an advanced stats n00b but I'm noticing a couple of things from these charts:
1. 1/3 of the conference season is in the books.
2. There are a lot of tough games left to play.
https://twitter.com/ksu_FAN/status/1616116290875260928?s=20&t=2YLXUjYNUPxbnxxa7OJkww
These stats — and our sterling record in close/OT games — lead me to believe we’ve been very fortunate.
Probably yes, to a degree. But I also think since this team is so new to each other that they have a higher ceiling than some other teams that have been together longer. And good teams win close games. That said, I don't think we'll win the conference and I'm ok with that.
Having three bucket finders and good free throw shooters DOES bode well for us tho!
Yeah, I don't think 4-0 in OT games is totally sustainable but we have one of the best assist guys in the nation, a guy who can create his own shot, a coach that is great out of timeouts, and strong FT shooting. Our record in close games involves some luck but we should keep winning those at a higher clip than we lose.
I'm pretty low BBIQ but this seems like a great recipe for success / fun basketball in March.
I think this team's Achilles heal for a deep tourney run is the defense. So far our offense has been able to overcome holes on the defense but that will get much tougher to do in the tournament.
Clams says defensive rebounding in particular. Clams’ intramural team was almost All U, so he knows what’s what.
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Basketball ‘clams engaging in basketball convos on this board is one of the best things ever
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I'm an advanced stats n00b but I'm noticing a couple of things from these charts:
1. 1/3 of the conference season is in the books.
2. There are a lot of tough games left to play.
https://twitter.com/ksu_FAN/status/1616116290875260928?s=20&t=2YLXUjYNUPxbnxxa7OJkww
These stats — and our sterling record in close/OT games — lead me to believe we’ve been very fortunate.
Probably yes, to a degree. But I also think since this team is so new to each other that they have a higher ceiling than some other teams that have been together longer. And good teams win close games. That said, I don't think we'll win the conference and I'm ok with that.
Having three bucket finders and good free throw shooters DOES bode well for us tho!
Yeah, I don't think 4-0 in OT games is totally sustainable but we have one of the best assist guys in the nation, a guy who can create his own shot, a coach that is great out of timeouts, and strong FT shooting. Our record in close games involves some luck but we should keep winning those at a higher clip than we lose.
I'm pretty low BBIQ but this seems like a great recipe for success / fun basketball in March.
I think this team's Achilles heal for a deep tourney run is the defense. So far our offense has been able to overcome holes on the defense but that will get much tougher to do in the tournament.
Clams says defensive rebounding in particular. Clams’ intramural team was almost All U, so he knows what’s what.
Oh man, we didn’t call him piss “box out" clams for nothin. The drills were absolute hell but I'll be gosh darned if it didn't make us (arguably) the most fundy-sound squad of roundballers this institution has ever seen (at the intramural level)
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yes, defensive rebounding % is ranked #241 out of 330 teams in ncaa.
also defensive fouling % is ranked #305, although i doubt we see many games like the KU game
defense is good at eFG% (#68) and TO% (#38)
offensively the only thing slowing them down is TO%. they are good at shooting, oboarding, and drawing fouls
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Key is turning it over more than 3 times a game :blindfold:
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I'm an advanced stats n00b but I'm noticing a couple of things from these charts:
1. 1/3 of the conference season is in the books.
2. There are a lot of tough games left to play.
https://twitter.com/ksu_FAN/status/1616116290875260928?s=20&t=2YLXUjYNUPxbnxxa7OJkww
These stats — and our sterling record in close/OT games — lead me to believe we’ve been very fortunate.
Probably yes, to a degree. But I also think since this team is so new to each other that they have a higher ceiling than some other teams that have been together longer. And good teams win close games. That said, I don't think we'll win the conference and I'm ok with that.
Having three bucket finders and good free throw shooters DOES bode well for us tho!
Yeah, I don't think 4-0 in OT games is totally sustainable but we have one of the best assist guys in the nation, a guy who can create his own shot, a coach that is great out of timeouts, and strong FT shooting. Our record in close games involves some luck but we should keep winning those at a higher clip than we lose.
I'm pretty low BBIQ but this seems like a great recipe for success / fun basketball in March.
I think this team's Achilles heal for a deep tourney run is the defense. So far our offense has been able to overcome holes on the defense but that will get much tougher to do in the tournament.
Clams says defensive rebounding in particular. Clams’ intramural team was almost All U, so he knows what’s what.
Oh man, we didn’t call him piss “box out" clams for nothin. The drills were absolute hell but I'll be gosh darned if it didn't make us (arguably) the most fundy-sound squad of roundballers this institution has ever seen (at the intramural level)
One of my favorite things about watching basketball is when you get a player/kid who absolutely loves physically manhandling his opponent on a box out, especially in youth/middle school/hs games. This is especially so on free throws. It’s too much fun.
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I'm an advanced stats n00b but I'm noticing a couple of things from these charts:
1. 1/3 of the conference season is in the books.
2. There are a lot of tough games left to play.
https://twitter.com/ksu_FAN/status/1616116290875260928?s=20&t=2YLXUjYNUPxbnxxa7OJkww
These stats — and our sterling record in close/OT games — lead me to believe we’ve been very fortunate.
Probably yes, to a degree. But I also think since this team is so new to each other that they have a higher ceiling than some other teams that have been together longer. And good teams win close games. That said, I don't think we'll win the conference and I'm ok with that.
Having three bucket finders and good free throw shooters DOES bode well for us tho!
Yeah, I don't think 4-0 in OT games is totally sustainable but we have one of the best assist guys in the nation, a guy who can create his own shot, a coach that is great out of timeouts, and strong FT shooting. Our record in close games involves some luck but we should keep winning those at a higher clip than we lose.
I'm pretty low BBIQ but this seems like a great recipe for success / fun basketball in March.
I think this team's Achilles heal for a deep tourney run is the defense. So far our offense has been able to overcome holes on the defense but that will get much tougher to do in the tournament.
Clams says defensive rebounding in particular. Clams’ intramural team was almost All U, so he knows what’s what.
I officiated several All-U championship games, Clams is not wrong.
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7/18's of the way thru the conference schedule, the Cats lead everyone by one game. Huge opportunity coming up against Flood Aggie this week.
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7/18's of the way thru the conference schedule, the Cats lead everyone by one game. Huge opportunity coming up against Flood Aggie this week.
10000%
This game is massive in that if, if we win. That game puts us in a spot to wrestle statically the best conference in the last decade into a lead that is hard to overcome.
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Texas has a very tough final stretch of games. I suspect it is likely that they will lose 2 more, taking them to at least 5 total losses.
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What do you foresee for the cats Pete
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The Cats are still right in the middle of this thing.
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One Peggy po is that the clones can’t seem to win on the road.
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One Peggy po is that the clones can’t seem to win on the road.
I really like our chances against them on 2/18 in the OOD. We have to be careful not to stub our toes against the Texas Techs of the world between now and then.
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Eers and pokes are kinda peaking and that could be a buzzsaw. Tech we could crap our pants if we aren't careful but otherwise a game we should win if we stay focused
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One Peggy po is that the clones can’t seem to win on the road.
I really like our chances against them on 2/18 in the OOD. We have to be careful not to stub our toes against the Texas Techs of the world between now and then.
I got a call today from an actual person in the ticket office just to tell me the ISU game was moved up to 1pm. That's the only reason they called.
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One Peggy po is that the clones can’t seem to win on the road.
I really like our chances against them on 2/18 in the OOD. We have to be careful not to stub our toes against the Texas Techs of the world between now and then.
Game got moved to 1PM which makes me think it will be less DOOMy
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I was gonna go to Clones game but can't make a 1p tip.

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What do you foresee for the cats Pete
I really do think 5 losses ties for the conference championship this year. I like our chances at only dropping one more (or zero).
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What do you foresee for the cats Pete
I really do think 5 losses ties for the conference championship this year. I like our chances at only dropping one more (or zero).
http://bball.notnothing.net/big12.php?sport=mbb (http://bball.notnothing.net/big12.php?sport=mbb)
I have been messing with mred's simulator and in most of the scenarios I put in there the champs end up with 5 losses.
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What do you foresee for the cats Pete
I really do think 5 losses ties for the conference championship this year. I like our chances at only dropping one more (or zero).
http://bball.notnothing.net/big12.php?sport=mbb (http://bball.notnothing.net/big12.php?sport=mbb)
I have been messing with mred's simulator and in most of the scenarios I put in there the champs end up with 5 losses.
I wasn't even that optimistic
1. Kansas St (12 - 6) Defeated Kansas and Texas based on winning percentage against #4 teams [Baylor, Iowa St, and TCU] (4-2).
2. Texas (12 - 6) With Kansas, lost to Kansas St based on winning percentage against #4 teams [Baylor, Iowa St, and TCU] (3-3). Defeated Kansas based on winning percentage against #7 teams [Okla St] (2-0).
3. Kansas (12 - 6) With Texas, lost to Kansas St based on winning percentage against #4 teams [Baylor, Iowa St, and TCU] (3-3). Lost to Texas based on winning percentage against #7 teams [Okla St] (1-1).
4. Iowa St (11 - 7) Defeated TCU and Baylor based on round-robin record (3-1).
5. TCU (11 - 7) Defeated Baylor and lost to Iowa St based on round-robin record (2-2).
6. Baylor (11 - 7) Lost to Iowa St and TCU based on round-robin record (1-3).
7. Okla St (8 - 10)
8. W Virginia (7 - 11)
9. Oklahoma (3 - 15) Defeated Texas Tech based on head-to-head wins (2-0).
10. Texas Tech (3 - 15) Lost to Oklahoma based on head-to-head wins (0-2).
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Texas should be the favorite in all but one of their remaining games, not sure how someone would project 3 more losses for them
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I think Texas probably drops 2 of their last 3. That's a brutal stretch.
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KU needs to go to Austin on March 4th and beat their asses. For the state and for the conference.
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I think the horns lose at Baylor and one more, maybe at the hate fest that will be their game at Tech, but anyone thinking KU is going to win in Austin has not been paying attention to how so-so the squawks are this year.
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Beat. Their. Asses.
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KU will get the job done. I predict that we will once again share the title with them and be complete and total equals in basketball.
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I was right. Luck and having no depth was going to catch up to us.
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It's really hard to win a Big 12 title in your first season.
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At this point we should feel pretty good if we finish 9-9
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Bouncing back after humbling losses is what this team does well.
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Bouncing back after humbling losses is what this team does well.
Yes, that and throwing the ball away
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Yeah, we're fine
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Might be tough to tie for it now with a 2 game differential
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Might be tough to tie for it now with a 2 game differential
Too bad we lost to TTU and OU. Pick up just 1 of 2 and we have a chance.
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Might be tough to tie for it now with a 2 game differential
Too bad we lost to TTU and OU. Pick up just 1 of 2 and we have a chance.
Tejas at home is the real killer
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Yeah I thought we could squeak in to a 4-5 way tie at 12-6 if we had won out and Baylor hung on yesterday, don't see it happening now.
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A 5 way tie for first sounds amazing.
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A 5 way tie for first sounds amazing.
Titletown* is back
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Winning out and getting to 12-6 would have me going from 6 to midnight.
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A 5 way tie for first sounds amazing.
Titletown* is back
If we do this, we need a banner that calls us champs that covers the top half of section 26 and 27.
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:lol:
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We need some big time help, but it's still possible:
Standings:
Texas 10-4
KU 10-4
Baylor 9-5
KSU 8-6
ISU 8-6
KU Remaining Schedule:
@TCU
WVU
Tech
@Texas
Texas Remaining Schedule:
ISU
@Baylor
@TCU
KU
Baylor Remaining Schedule:
@ksu
Texas
@OSU
ISU
Kansas State Remaining Schedule:
Baylor
@OSU
OU
@WVU
Iowa State Remaining Schedule:
@UT
OU
WVU
@Baylor
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My reasonable ask for the remainder of the season: Beat OU and Baylor.
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And all Farmegeddoners to win out.
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UT’s remaining schedule is a literal gauntlet, maybe these fuckers really will go 12-6.
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guys i'm going to be honest here. At that moment when KU had lost 3 in a row...i dared to dream. I thought, perhaps just maybe, someone out-pizza'd the hut. but here we are.
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guys i'm going to be honest here. At that moment when KU had lost 3 in a row...i dared to dream. I thought, perhaps just maybe, someone out-pizza'd the hut. but here we are.
Bill Self has the most stressful job in college athletics, imo.
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UT’s remaining schedule is a literal gauntlet, maybe these fuckers really will go 12-6.
If they do, it probably means that KU wins the conference outright.
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This is fun tho!
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UT’s remaining schedule is a literal gauntlet, maybe these fuckers really will go 12-6.
If they do, it probably means that KU wins the conference outright.
Much prefer that than UT winning it
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Yeah I think the only reasonable path to a 12-6 split was Baylor winning Saturday
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A 5 way tie for first sounds amazing.
Titletown* is back
Tietletown