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Title: Throwing Arms
Post by: Purple Derpathy on September 17, 2022, 08:43:00 PM
ITT we will talk about cannons or lake thereof.

Honestly, I think AM has big nuts for trying, but his shoulder is trash. That, or he just hasn't had enough time to practice and get acclimated. Not sure I've seen such a limp arm. Once again, probably not his fault given the beatings he took at Nebraska.

What is the story on Rubes? I think we give AM one more game, but we need to pivot to someone capable of throwing past the first down-marker if AM still hesitates to let it rip.
Title: Re: Throwing Arms
Post by: Trim on September 17, 2022, 08:53:23 PM
He just needs a ? tat.
Title: Re: Throwing Arms
Post by: ben ji on September 17, 2022, 09:24:04 PM
ITT we will talk about cannons or lake thereof.

Honestly, I think AM has big nuts for trying, but his shoulder is trash. That, or he just hasn't had enough time to practice and get acclimated. Not sure I've seen such a limp arm. Once again, probably not his fault given the beatings he took at Nebraska.

What is the story on Rubes? I think we give AM one more game, but we need to pivot to someone capable of throwing past the first down-marker if AM still hesitates to let it rip.

I think playing for Nebraska the last 4 years just mentally mumped him. He is afraid to throw downfield but his one deep throw today for the TD was a great pass.

I honestly hope we were just playing 25% of our playbook to give OU nothing on tape and it came back to bite us in the ass....the other option is that we just suck at offense.
Title: Re: Throwing Arms
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 17, 2022, 09:38:12 PM
ITT we will talk about cannons or lake thereof.

Honestly, I think AM has big nuts for trying, but his shoulder is trash. That, or he just hasn't had enough time to practice and get acclimated. Not sure I've seen such a limp arm. Once again, probably not his fault given the beatings he took at Nebraska.

What is the story on Rubes? I think we give AM one more game, but we need to pivot to someone capable of throwing past the first down-marker if AM still hesitates to let it rip.

Carson Coffman's nickname was literally Cementfoot McNoodlearm.
Title: Re: Throwing Arms
Post by: wiley on September 17, 2022, 09:44:46 PM
ITT we will talk about cannons or lake thereof.

Honestly, I think AM has big nuts for trying, but his shoulder is trash. That, or he just hasn't had enough time to practice and get acclimated. Not sure I've seen such a limp arm. Once again, probably not his fault given the beatings he took at Nebraska.

What is the story on Rubes? I think we give AM one more game, but we need to pivot to someone capable of throwing past the first down-marker if AM still hesitates to let it rip.

Carson Coffman's nickname was literally Cementfoot McNoodlearm.
Think we would’ve won with Grant Gregory at QB today?


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Title: Re: Throwing Arms
Post by: CHONGS on September 17, 2022, 09:51:32 PM
I don't think we're blaming the oline nearly enough.

(Yes I'm going to ride this into the ground)
Title: Re: Throwing Arms
Post by: wiley on September 17, 2022, 10:03:57 PM
I don't think we're blaming the oline nearly enough.

(Yes I'm going to ride this into the ground)
Admittedly i didn’t watch much of the game due to ESPN app requiring me to restart the game anytime i switched away from our game.  So i’m willing to buy that.  I still feel AM is way to timid, which is causing all of these other issues to be way more pronounced, now that teams know they can sell out.


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Title: Re: Throwing Arms
Post by: stunted on September 17, 2022, 10:53:48 PM
How tf we put up 40 on Mizzou in crap conditions against their stud d-line, and then turn around and get destroyed by Tulane in the sun?
Title: Re: Throwing Arms
Post by: MakeItRain on September 18, 2022, 12:56:03 AM
He's got really good zip on these short and intermediate routes. He doesn't need strength exercises, he needs a sports shrink.
Title: Re: Throwing Arms
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 18, 2022, 11:07:56 AM
How tf we put up 40 on Mizzou in crap conditions against their stud d-line, and then turn around and get destroyed by Tulane in the sun?

I think Tulane is a much better team.
Title: Re: Throwing Arms
Post by: Pete on September 18, 2022, 11:26:33 AM
He's got really good zip on these short and intermediate routes. He doesn't need strength exercises, he needs a sports shrink.
Makes sense.  I am concerned that therapy takes more time than what we should invest in a 5th year transfer.
Title: Re: Throwing Arms
Post by: MakeItRain on September 18, 2022, 12:01:28 PM
He's got really good zip on these short and intermediate routes. He doesn't need strength exercises, he needs a sports shrink.
Makes sense.  I am concerned that therapy takes more time than what we should invest in a 5th year transfer.

It's absolutely fair to wonder if Martinez is a lost cause
Title: Re: Throwing Arms
Post by: wetwillie on September 18, 2022, 01:50:57 PM
We could still win quite a few games if he is a primary runner but he’s obviously not going to try to get the hard yards when he needs it so that’s probably out of the question.
Title: Re: Throwing Arms
Post by: nicname on September 18, 2022, 03:13:34 PM
We could still win quite a few games if he is a primary runner but he’s obviously not going to try to get the hard yards when he needs it so that’s probably out of the question.

This is the most frustrating aspect of AM’s struggles. There were several runs where he simply mailed it in. He doesn’t seem to have it mentally yet, and it shows hard in the passing game. 

His arm is fine. That TD to Warner was a dime. He’s looked fine on most of his short passes (some obvious garbage throws too).
Title: Re: Throwing Arms
Post by: Katpappy on September 18, 2022, 03:23:48 PM
ITT we will talk about cannons or lake thereof.

Honestly, I think AM has big nuts for trying, but his shoulder is trash. That, or he just hasn't had enough time to practice and get acclimated. Not sure I've seen such a limp arm. Once again, probably not his fault given the beatings he took at Nebraska.

What is the story on Rubes? I think we give AM one more game, but we need to pivot to someone capable of throwing past the first down-marker if AM still hesitates to let it rip.

Carson Coffman's nickname was literally Cementfoot McNoodlearm.
Think we would’ve won with Grant Gregory at QB today?


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He was a tuff mother with two mumped up shoulders.
Title: Re: Throwing Arms
Post by: stunted on September 18, 2022, 04:31:41 PM
his passes has zip
but he also has the yips
we are really mumped
Title: Re: Throwing Arms
Post by: Purple Derpathy on September 26, 2022, 08:15:35 PM
Was very impressed with AM against OU.  He stopped trying to to push the ball to the target and just let it rip. His best throws were flat out drops by Warner. Can we keep this momentum going?
Title: Re: Throwing Arms
Post by: cfbandyman on September 26, 2022, 08:41:33 PM
Was very impressed with AM against OU.  He stopped trying to to push the ball to the target and just let it rip. His best throws were flat out drops by Warner. Can we keep this momentum going?

He really zinged it on a ton of throws, lots of good velocity, and yeah, those two passes specifically to Warner, the touch was amazing
Title: Re: Throwing Arms
Post by: mocat on September 26, 2022, 10:45:26 PM
I will never forgive Kade for dropping that over the shoulder rainbow dime that hit him directly in both hands