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Title: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: CHONGS on September 19, 2021, 01:41:40 PM
If you believe in the Gatos enough to bet on them, this should be intriguing.

Is there something I don't know?
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: kim carnes on September 19, 2021, 01:45:48 PM
I don’t believe that we’re +9
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: KITNfury on September 19, 2021, 01:56:34 PM
We should be minus 9 based on performances this year, not joking.
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: CHONGS on September 19, 2021, 01:57:06 PM
https://twitter.com/CircaSports/status/1439653814416539654

:dunno:
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: cfbandyman on September 19, 2021, 03:08:38 PM
The amount of farms won taking that will be insane
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: wetwillie on September 19, 2021, 06:18:43 PM
If it is, it should get pounded back down, is it?
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: KITNfury on September 19, 2021, 06:43:11 PM
If it is, it should get pounded back down, is it?
Vegas insider shows 7-7.5 points now. I'm no expert, but that seems like a big change in a short time.
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: wetwillie on September 19, 2021, 06:47:21 PM
If it is, it should get pounded back down, is it?
Vegas insider shows 7-7.5 points now. I'm no expert, but that seems like a big change in a short time.

Yea appears they got some heavy action on +9, I think I would have had this at +5, might see more action driving it down as the week goes on.
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: DQ12 on September 19, 2021, 07:08:45 PM
I'm not totally certain OSU gets to 9 points, tbh.
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: nicname on September 19, 2021, 07:17:15 PM
What a dumb line. We’re going to push their crap in.
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: KITNfury on September 19, 2021, 07:20:45 PM
I'm not totally certain OSU gets to 9 points, tbh.
Last night was the first time I watched them. I don't know how good bsu is, but honestly OSU looked a lot like us with our backup QB...just not as good in any phase. I think we won by 10 give or take so long as we don't turn it over.
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: fun muffin on September 19, 2021, 07:23:09 PM
I guess Vegas reasoning is Howard in a road environment.  OSU defense has been pretty good.  Really stiffened up in the second half against boise.  Also we have struggled to actually win in Stillwater. 

 :dunno:   I was feeling really confident about this game, but after seeing the line now I'm scared.  Nervous poops will likely start early this week. 

Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: DQ12 on September 19, 2021, 07:29:01 PM
I'm not totally certain OSU gets to 9 points, tbh.
Last night was the first time I watched them. I don't know how good bsu is, but honestly OSU looked a lot like us with our backup QB...just not as good in any phase. I think we won by 10 give or take so long as we don't turn it over.
i've watched all three OSU games, lastnight was by far the best OSU has looked, if that tells you anything.  It's a tricky spot for us because i think OSU is likely one of the top 3 defenses we'll play all season and with howard in, could be trouble.  but sanders has just been so bad.  hopefully they're still without their receivers on saturday like they were last night

name of the game is the same as us - if we can stop the run, we probably only need 17 points to win, and our run D has been pretty darn stout.  should be a great game.  the +9 stinks.  i think the wrong team is favored imo, but this krazy kat could just be drinking too many purple kool aid jammers.
Title: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: catastrophe on September 19, 2021, 08:31:10 PM
I could never bring myself to get significant money on football, but that does seem like a hell of a line when OSU has limped to every single win this year and we beat two good teams comfortably.
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: michigancat on September 19, 2021, 08:55:02 PM
I could never bring myself to get significant money on football, but that does seem like a hell of a line when OSU has limped to every single win this year and we beat two good teams comfortably.

we also limped into an FCS win
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: MakeItRain on September 19, 2021, 08:57:08 PM
I'm not totally certain OSU gets to 9 points, tbh.
Last night was the first time I watched them. I don't know how good bsu is, but honestly OSU looked a lot like us with our backup QB...just not as good in any phase. I think we won by 10 give or take so long as we don't turn it over.

I only saw the last 5 minutes last night but I did watch the entirety of Boise UCF and I came away thinking Boise was legit dog crap. Like a 8 win team in the MWC, at best.
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 19, 2021, 09:08:58 PM
How are we feeling about that 49 1/2 point O/U?
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 19, 2021, 09:14:16 PM
Also what website do you guys use to bet on sports? I would like to start betting on sports.
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 19, 2021, 09:25:45 PM
How are we feeling about that 49 1/2 point O/U?

Seems a little high to me.
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: sekpoke on September 19, 2021, 10:27:40 PM
KState plus 9 is free money. 
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 19, 2021, 10:39:20 PM
So....bodog? or.....?
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: cfbandyman on September 19, 2021, 10:40:23 PM
Also what website do you guys use to bet on sports? I would like to start betting on sports.

I would like to know as well cause hell, +9 and a o/u of 49.5 is like, wtf. I'll be shocked if either team reaches the 20s.
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 20, 2021, 09:10:23 AM
So....bodog? or.....?
bovada
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: Houstoncat93 on September 20, 2021, 09:59:09 AM
To all of you saying you watched the OSU vs Boise game:

HOW IN THE HELL CAN YOU WATCH ANYTHING LONGER THAN A HIGHLIGHT WITH THE STUPID BLUE TURF!?

Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: bucket on September 20, 2021, 10:09:23 AM
To all of you saying you watched the OSU vs Boise game:

HOW IN THE HELL CAN YOU WATCH ANYTHING LONGER THAN A HIGHLIGHT WITH THE STUPID BLUE TURF!?

 :sdeek:
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: kstate4life on September 20, 2021, 10:12:50 AM
Draft Kings is now +6, and 45 O\U
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: cfbandyman on September 20, 2021, 12:37:37 PM
Still a lil ridic but like, if that was the opening line we wouldn't have had this thread
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: KITNfury on September 20, 2021, 01:53:38 PM
To all of you saying you watched the OSU vs Boise game:

HOW IN THE HELL CAN YOU WATCH ANYTHING LONGER THAN A HIGHLIGHT WITH THE STUPID BLUE TURF!?
Not gonna lie, it left me depressed feeling dirty.
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: Winters on September 20, 2021, 02:58:47 PM
That +250 ML is JUICY
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 20, 2021, 03:11:59 PM
To all of you saying you watched the OSU vs Boise game:

HOW IN THE HELL CAN YOU WATCH ANYTHING LONGER THAN A HIGHLIGHT WITH THE STUPID BLUE TURF!?

I know, right?
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: MakeItRain on September 20, 2021, 04:16:09 PM
So....bodog? or.....?
bovada
Draft Kings
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: DQ12 on September 20, 2021, 04:23:02 PM
Still a lil ridic but like, if that was the opening line we wouldn't have had this thread
Yeah i assumed anywhere between 2.5-6.5.  9 seemed crazy.
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: Winters on September 20, 2021, 07:06:12 PM
+5.5 now  :Wha:
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: wetwillie on September 20, 2021, 07:10:52 PM
That feels right to me
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: nicname on September 20, 2021, 07:18:41 PM
So....bodog? or.....?
bovada
Draft Kings

Automatica!
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: MakeItRain on September 20, 2021, 07:32:41 PM
So....bodog? or.....?
bovada
Draft Kings

Automatica!
:ksu:
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: KITNfury on September 20, 2021, 07:36:22 PM
That feels right to me
Not saying we'll win, but still don't see how we're not favored. Maybe because it's in Stillwater, but otherwise I believe we've shown more than they have.
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: fun muffin on September 20, 2021, 08:21:29 PM
Theory:  Our defense is overrated and is about to be exposed by OSU. 

Stanford was switching qbs in our game which led to crappy offense from them.
And I think Nevada will turn out to be a pretty average team as the season progresses.  They went significant stretches against Cal without much to show for it. 
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: catastrophe on September 20, 2021, 08:36:16 PM
My theory is they took a look at our record after becoming ranked the last 5 or so years.
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 21, 2021, 08:36:00 AM
Theory:  Our defense is overrated and is about to be exposed by OSU. 

Stanford was switching qbs in our game which led to crappy offense from them.
And I think Nevada will turn out to be a pretty average team as the season progresses.  They went significant stretches against Cal without much to show for it.

Counterpoint: We didn't really struggle with either of those teams.
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: MakeItRain on September 21, 2021, 08:49:44 AM
Theory:  Our defense is overrated and is about to be exposed by OSU. 

Stanford was switching qbs in our game which led to crappy offense from them.
And I think Nevada will turn out to be a pretty average team as the season progresses.  They went significant stretches against Cal without much to show for it.

It's clear you haven't watched OSU this year, but you couldn't even be bothered to look at their schedule? They scored 23 against Missouri State, 28 against Tulsa, and 21 against Boise including being shut out in the second half. Central Arkansas scored 34 against Missouri State, fire heaven's sake.

We very well may lose, might get blown out, but I'm very sure it won't be due to this particular offense exposing anyone.
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: bucket on September 21, 2021, 08:55:24 AM
Theory:  Our defense is overrated and is about to be exposed by OSU. 

Stanford was switching qbs in our game which led to crappy offense from them.
And I think Nevada will turn out to be a pretty average team as the season progresses.  They went significant stretches against Cal without much to show for it.

It's clear you haven't watched OSU this year, but you couldn't even be bothered to look at their schedule? They scored 23 against Missouri State, 28 against Tulsa, and 21 against Boise including being shut out in the second half. Central Arkansas scored 34 against Missouri State, fire heaven's sake.

We very well may lose, might get blown out, but I'm very sure it won't be due to this particular offense exposing anyone.

Is it possible they've been running a vanilla offense. I thought Spencer Sanders was a good quarterback coming into the season. They have lost some good supporting players (i.e. Chubba and Tylan).
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: DQ12 on September 21, 2021, 10:00:24 AM
sanders isn't very good.  if their receivers are still out this week, i really don't think OSU gets to 20 points.  they may not get there with their receivers.

our defense is the real deal as far as I can tell.
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: wetwillie on September 21, 2021, 10:13:48 AM
sanders isn't very good.  if their receivers are still out this week, i really don't think OSU gets to 20 points.  they may not get there with their receivers.

our defense is the real deal as far as I can tell.

Losing Duke for the season might take our D down a notch but we are deep there so probably the position we could afford it the most.
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: _33 on September 21, 2021, 10:16:15 AM
sanders isn't very good.  if their receivers are still out this week, i really don't think OSU gets to 20 points.  they may not get there with their receivers.

our defense is the real deal as far as I can tell.

Losing Duke for the season might take our D down a notch but we are deep there so probably the position we could afford it the most.

Is he out for the season?  Looked pretty bad.
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: DQ12 on September 21, 2021, 10:45:18 AM
time for matlack to step up.  he's shown pretty well in his relatively limited action so far. 
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: fun muffin on September 21, 2021, 11:15:43 AM
Theory:  Our defense is overrated and is about to be exposed by OSU. 

Stanford was switching qbs in our game which led to crappy offense from them.
And I think Nevada will turn out to be a pretty average team as the season progresses.  They went significant stretches against Cal without much to show for it.

It's clear you haven't watched OSU this year, but you couldn't even be bothered to look at their schedule? They scored 23 against Missouri State, 28 against Tulsa, and 21 against Boise including being shut out in the second half. Central Arkansas scored 34 against Missouri State, fire heaven's sake.

We very well may lose, might get blown out, but I'm very sure it won't be due to this particular offense exposing anyone.

It's just a theory.  Calm down
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 21, 2021, 11:33:01 AM
I think we will expose their defense. Our Will Howitzer is about to shell them.
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: wetwillie on September 21, 2021, 11:43:54 AM
time for matlack to step up.  he's shown pretty well in his relatively limited action so far. 

Massie, Aniduke, Matlack should be able to hold it down I agree. If we lose Green or Fletcher we are in big trouble.
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: MakeItRain on September 21, 2021, 12:01:19 PM
Theory:  Our defense is overrated and is about to be exposed by OSU. 

Stanford was switching qbs in our game which led to crappy offense from them.
And I think Nevada will turn out to be a pretty average team as the season progresses.  They went significant stretches against Cal without much to show for it.

It's clear you haven't watched OSU this year, but you couldn't even be bothered to look at their schedule? They scored 23 against Missouri State, 28 against Tulsa, and 21 against Boise including being shut out in the second half. Central Arkansas scored 34 against Missouri State, fire heaven's sake.

We very well may lose, might get blown out, but I'm very sure it won't be due to this particular offense exposing anyone.

It's just a theory.  Calm down

More aggressive than I intended, my bad.
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: fun muffin on September 21, 2021, 12:35:57 PM
Klieman just said Khalid Duke is out for the year.   :frown:
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: fun muffin on September 21, 2021, 12:41:38 PM
Theory:  Our defense is overrated and is about to be exposed by OSU. 

Stanford was switching qbs in our game which led to crappy offense from them.
And I think Nevada will turn out to be a pretty average team as the season progresses.  They went significant stretches against Cal without much to show for it.

It's clear you haven't watched OSU this year, but you couldn't even be bothered to look at their schedule? They scored 23 against Missouri State, 28 against Tulsa, and 21 against Boise including being shut out in the second half. Central Arkansas scored 34 against Missouri State, fire heaven's sake.

We very well may lose, might get blown out, but I'm very sure it won't be due to this particular offense exposing anyone.

It's just a theory.  Calm down

More aggressive than I intended, my bad.

No worries, I'm just trying to make sense of the Vegas thinking.  From what I saw in their Tulsa and Boise games was not good.  I didn't watch their other game.   

I thought for sure we'd be favored. 
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: WildcatNkilt on September 21, 2021, 02:03:55 PM
Klieman just said Khalid Duke is out for the year.   :frown:

He still has a redshirt to burn, right?  If so, he should be able to use it and keep a year of eligibility.  I hope he has a quick recovery. 
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: jc_jax on September 22, 2021, 11:50:45 AM
Since I've completely dumped last season from my memory, how well did Will H. play last year on the road?  Night and day difference or closer to his "average"?  That probably will be the real difference in the outcome of the game, right?
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: wiley on September 22, 2021, 11:57:04 AM
Since I've completely dumped last season from my memory, how well did Will H. play last year on the road?  Night and day difference or closer to his "average"?  That probably will be the real difference in the outcome of the game, right?
Beat TCU (1 int)
Got crushed at WVU (3 ints)
Got crushed at ISU (1 int)
Lost last second at Baylor (2 ints) (iirc, had an open first down on a read option and fell down).
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: MakeItRain on September 22, 2021, 02:26:52 PM
Since I've completely dumped last season from my memory, how well did Will H. play last year on the road?  Night and day difference or closer to his "average"?  That probably will be the real difference in the outcome of the game, right?
Beat TCU (1 int)
Got crushed at WVU (3 ints)
Got crushed at ISU (1 int)
Lost last second at Baylor (2 ints) (iirc, had an open first down on a read option and fell down).

The fall was at TCU. Baylor was more on Mess than Howard. We jumped on them early then we went very conservative and didn't recover, awful second half, lost on the last possession of the game.
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: wetwillie on September 24, 2021, 08:00:17 AM
Looks like it settled in at +6, anybody get it at the original 9.5?
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: fun muffin on September 25, 2021, 06:53:39 PM
Theory:  Our defense is overrated and is about to be exposed by OSU. 

Stanford was switching qbs in our game which led to crappy offense from them.
And I think Nevada will turn out to be a pretty average team as the season progresses.  They went significant stretches against Cal without much to show for it.

I freaking knew it.   :frown:
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: CHONGS on September 25, 2021, 06:56:17 PM
Seems like it
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: PurpleOil on September 25, 2021, 07:00:28 PM
Yup.
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: wetwillie on September 25, 2021, 08:00:16 PM
Stubby is out, I mean he’s a 4X AA you are going to have a drop off.
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: steve dave on September 25, 2021, 09:27:41 PM
those people who make the lines are smart as crap!
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: michigancat on September 25, 2021, 09:28:32 PM
those people who make the lines are smart as crap!

they really are. It's still in question for goodness sake! (OK maybe not after that last first down)
Title: Re: KSU +9 seems like a lot of points
Post by: CHONGS on September 25, 2021, 09:28:34 PM
those people who make the lines are smart as crap!
That's why I never bet on any cats games.