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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: CHONGS on November 28, 2020, 06:07:33 PM
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Hey let's go cats
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yay.
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Welp
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Gimme that Ast
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Why is Baylor favored by 6 points in this game?
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Let's see if we can get the ball past the 50 yard line this game.
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Why is Baylor favored by 6 points in this game?
Because reasons
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Why is Baylor favored by 6 points in this game?
Only 6? Good question
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I guess we are pot committed to running the offense they want long term and are cool with getting dog walked the last few games.
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We're amazing!
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We should go for two every time
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we expecting a win here today?
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Worst call I’ve ever seen
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Holy crap
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That was a bullshit flag
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How did Snyder's crew of disciplined cats turn into this rag tag bunch of cheapshot artists?
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My god that ref should never step foot on a big 12 field again
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I expect a make up call on our next possession. That was terrible
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one thing i've already picked up on is that we've got a lot of guys with thick ankles. wonder if that's going to be a bit of a calling card of klinemann teams.
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Howard is terrible. Put Ast in already
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I don't drag on officials normally, but are these guys stupid or something?
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I don't drag on officials normally, but are these guys stupid or something?
It’s about as incompetent a crew as I’ve ever seen.
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I think everyone might be drunk
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they probably have covid, and can't smell as a result, chingon.
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Guys I think we have a good chance to win this!!!
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this is an odd game.
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Baylor sucks crap
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Baylor sucks crap
Thank God.
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Baylor sucks crap
Thank God.
Will take
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Is it just me or is there absolutely no noise from the stadium?
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Baylor sucks crap
Thank God.
Will take
I need this win.
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Lol at moore trying to sell that.
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Go for it!!!
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Dammit
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Lol at moore trying to sell that.
Does he have the yips? I just can’t believe how bad he is at throwing right now.
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Go for it!!!
I’m glad they didn’t. I’ve seen that movie too many times this season
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Howard is terrible. Put Ast in already
Seriously... What are we waiting for at this point? 2 interceptions in a half. He's a turnover machine.
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It's really not hard at all to imagine someone worse than Howard playing right now. I wouldn't take that chance.
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Howard is terrible. Put Ast in already
Seriously... What are we waiting for at this point? 2 interceptions in a half. He's a turnover machine.
Ast could definitely be worse when it comes to turnovers.
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Jaren Lewis must be so rough ridin' bad it hurts
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Our DL is kicking so much ass
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Jaren Lewis must be so rough ridin' bad it hurts
I thought i read/heard they were looking at other positions for him.
Or they've realized they broke howard mentally and won't do it to another QB.
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Howard isn't broken mentally. He just isn't very good at throwing the football right now
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Howard isn't broken mentally. He just isn't very good at throwing the football right now
I'm glad to hear that. Cause he was put in an incredibly tough position.
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Howard isn't broken mentally. He just isn't very good at throwing the football right now
I agree with this, his demeanor still appears confident.
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I'm sure we have a stable of true freshman QBs, all of whom are possibly better than Howard, and we're just choosing not to play them for mysterious, unknown reasons.
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game is kinda boring now.
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game is kinda boring now.
If we give Deuce a bunch of carries interesting things will happen
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game is kinda boring now.
If we give Deuce a bunch of carries interesting things will happen
Deuce is the short guy
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Throw one deep
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What happened to Baylor? Didn’t Rhule get an NFL gig last year for whipping so much ass?
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Good decision to run clock and punt there.
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Good decision to run clock and punt there.
Yeah I don't think the announcers watched much Howard film coming into the game
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Good decision to run clock and punt there.
Yeah I don't think the announcers watched much Howard film
Haha, i was thinking the same thing.
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Klieman having no urgency at the end of the half & just being happy to go into half was a thing before Howard.
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Klieman having no urgency at the end of the half & just being happy to go into half was a thing before Howard.
For sure but I bet we would have attempted a pass with Skylar
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We have to win this game. Fake season or not we can’t lose to this disaster of a team.
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I definitely enjoy how much the pbp guy hates the yellow unis
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Are we going to lose this game?!
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Is the person responsible for spotting where the ball is placed also working remotely? They can’t spot the ball for crap
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Are we going to lose this game?!
50-50
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Damn that was one hell of a catch
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Ball hit the ground
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KU would give us a game if we played next week.
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KU would give us a game if we played next week.
Lol, no. Be thankful for what you have.
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KU would give us a game if we played next week.
Lol, no. Be thankful for what you have.
Chings doesn't eff around when he melts down
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Our QB position is the absolute worst in D1. and i'm not exaggerating. can anyone name a team with a worse QB than us? FYI I will take the KU freshman QB over Howard any day of the week.
you can't win games when the difference in QBs is this gargantuan. Klieman refuses to throw deep any more. well you are going to lose if you can only run the ball. you might as well throw deep and hope for a lucky catch like baylor got twice tonight or a pass interference
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Exactly, kids these days don't meltdown like they used to.
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i'm surprised we're not ahead by more.
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These spots have been terrible
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Are we going to lose this game?!
If we don't get a special teams touchdown or a turnover from Brewer on his half of the field, yes we will.
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Exactly, kids these days don't meltdown like they used to.
At least cats games resemble an activity centered around competitive athletics. Meanwhile, hawks games more closely resemble an avant garde physical comedy performance.
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jfc
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He's gotta pull Howard, I know that would signify the end of his career, but Ast would win this game.
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Are we going to lose this game?!
If we're relying on Howard to throw to win the game, yes, we're done.
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Klieman's showing his ass tonight.
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He's gotta pull Howard, I know that would signify the end of his career, but Ast would win this game.
LOL, MiR also showing us how to melt down
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Totally forgetting Michael Bishop getting benched for Beasley in Lubbock
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Hey guys, they might call more screens,?!+
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Whatever adjustments were made at halftime, I think we should un-adjust
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Totally forgetting Michael Bishop getting benched for Beasley in Lubbock
Adam helm in Ames
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we were pretty dominant in the first half, but now not as much. i wonder if the baylor coaching staff made adjustments that are too subtle for the casual fan to identify that have changed the flow of the game?
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seven sacks is a lot of sacks, so i don't think that's the problem. i wonder what it could be?
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These spots have been terrible
Seriously even on the inconsequential spots they look totally lost
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seven sacks is a lot of sacks, so i don't think that's the problem. i wonder what it could be?
We aren't scoring enough points. Defense is doing pretty good!
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I want a gd touchdown. That's not crazy to ask for.
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I want a gd touchdown. That's not crazy to ask for.
I think Deuce will break a long run
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Klieman's showing his ass tonight.
His unwillingness to stop this Howard experiment has changed how I feel about him, win or lose. I don't even by the program building stuff, it's clear that Howard will never start another game for Kansas State ever again when this season is over. This isn't program building, it's risking the current team because he doesn't want his QB evaluation to be wrong. I guarantee you the players are just as frustrated with this too.
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Defense is doing pretty good!
baylor gained 152 yards in the 3rd quarter, which works out to 608 yards per game which isn't that good. something changed in the third quarter.
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Klieman's showing his ass tonight.
His unwillingness to stop this Howard experiment has changed how I feel about him, win or lose. I don't even by the program building stuff, it's clear that Howard will never start another game for Kansas State ever again when this season is over. This isn't program building, it's risking the current team because he doesn't want his QB evaluation to be wrong. I guarantee you the players are just as frustrated with this too.
I think you're overestimating Ast
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Go go go go go
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Defense is doing pretty good!
baylor gained 152 yards in the 3rd quarter, which works out to 608 yards per game which isn't that good. something changed in the third quarter.
A couple lucky plays
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YES!
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more like will heisman.
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I wish that took longer but I'll take it!
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That's Mr. Hamburger for you! With the wheels.
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Well that helps calm me down
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Klieman's showing his ass tonight.
His unwillingness to stop this Howard experiment has changed how I feel about him, win or lose. I don't even by the program building stuff, it's clear that Howard will never start another game for Kansas State ever again when this season is over. This isn't program building, it's risking the current team because he doesn't want his QB evaluation to be wrong. I guarantee you the players are just as frustrated with this too.
I think you're overestimating Ast
Nah, he wouldn't miss these passes this poorly. I will say this, that last play wouldn't have been a touchdown with Ast, he's significantly slower than Howard. Klieman feels, right now, the quarterback run game is more important to the offense than the ability to pass accurately, that's why Howard is playing. They can use the threat of his feet to open up plays like that. The problem is he's missed wide open passes like the one he finally hit to Briley Moore, all night.
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Malik Knowles is the offensive player of the game.
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Malik Knowles is the offensive player of the game.
That block on the Howard TD was unreal
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These refs are unbelievably bad
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Ross Elder couldn't let us just crap on Howard, dude is always in the spotlight for rough ridin' up.
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Of course we're going to let them immediately score again.
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Malik Knowles is the offensive player of the game.
Happy for him
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the big difference i'm noticing on defense is that baylor is completing all their passes now.
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the big difference i'm noticing on defense is that baylor is completing all their passes now.
Yeah the last drive was different
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Hold on to your asses.
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They have done a good job of adjusting to our DL destroying their OL in the first half.
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the big difference i'm noticing on defense is that baylor is completing all their passes now.
They're getting the ball out of Brewer's hand faster.
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the big difference i'm noticing on defense is that baylor is completing all their passes now.
They're getting the ball out of Brewer's hand faster.
Yes. And we're usually better at tackling in the secondary
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I feel like we'be got some really good defensive players, some really sucky ones, and not much in between. Like, if we could replace the sucky ones with mediocre ones, the defense would be amazing.
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I feel like we'be got some really good defensive players, some really sucky ones, and not much in between. Like, if we could replace the sucky ones with mediocre ones, the defense would be amazing.
This is a good observation and I agree. Having our starting LB's would have helped.
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I feel like we'be got some really good defensive players, some really sucky ones, and not much in between. Like, if we could replace the sucky ones with mediocre ones, the defense would be amazing.
D line is great, secondary is aight, linebackers try hard. The secondary would be better if they all didn't leave mid season.
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more like deuce heisman.
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YES! YES! YES!
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Howard did a great job of handing off the ball to Vaugn there.
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Happy for deuce that he finally got another dog crap defense to play against. If we get good QB play next year, he's going to be the second best back in the conference.
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I feel like we'be got some really good defensive players, some really sucky ones, and not much in between. Like, if we could replace the sucky ones with mediocre ones, the defense would be amazing.
Eli yes, Hughes is a blessing to be out. I think Daniel Green has played really well tonight.
This is a good observation and I agree. Having our starting LB's would have helped.
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Howard did a great job of handing off the ball to Vaugn there.
252 rushing yards :excited:
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I feel like we'be got some really good defensive players, some really sucky ones, and not much in between. Like, if we could replace the sucky ones with mediocre ones, the defense would be amazing.
Eli yes, Hughes is a blessing to be out. I think Daniel Green has played really well tonight.
This is a good observation and I agree. Having our starting LB's would have helped.
Fair, would be good to rotate them a bit
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Happy for deuce that he finally got another dog crap defense to play against. If we get good QB play next year, he's going to be the second best back in the conference.
I don’t see how we get good QB play next year.
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Come on defense, just give me one more stop.
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Our WR’s are just blocking their asses off
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Happy for deuce that he finally got another dog crap defense to play against. If we get good QB play next year, he's going to be the second best back in the conference.
I don’t see how we get good QB play next year.
Sky will come back, what the hell else is he going to do.
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Hunter Henry?
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pretty much all baylor's running plays lose yards and all their passing plays gain yards.
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That penalty really hurt
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Defense shits the bed.
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It's Howard time.
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It looks like we are going to almost certainly cover the spread so that is something
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It's Howard time.
:flush:
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jfc
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Looks like we're going to lose.
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Whale of a punt!
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bit of a hot take here, but i think vaughn's size limits how effective he is.
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Whale of a punt!
Play of the game
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He threw a three yard pattern that was a duck.
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Lol again with the jersey hate. Love it
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OMG
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Goddman it thats going to get overturned
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he was pretty obviously down.
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Goddman it thats going to get overturned
Yeah oh well
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just not stout enough when it mattered.
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We should let them score
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:'bye cruel world:
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I hate this team so much right now
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i, weirdly, feel like there's still about a 40% chance baylor fumbles or misses a fg here.
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i, weirdly, feel like there's still about a 40% chance baylor fumbles or misses a fg here.
Nah we lost
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the heart feels what it feels, michigancat.
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can't finish games....
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Ugh
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Fire them all
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ah well, nonetheless.
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50-50 was a good call!
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Lol
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Is there anything more overrated than the KSU defense?
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Is there anything more overrated than the KSU defense?
I blame the bullshit tackle below the ankle call
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Is there anything more overrated than the KSU defense?
I doubt we'll be overrated for a while. We're official bottom dwellers.
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What a shitshow
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Fake season or not, this is an indictment of this staff and program. That drive at the end of the first half, and that drive at the end of the game were cowardly. They didn't let the offense try to win the game, they put it in the hands of a defense that didn't get a stop the entire second half.
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A coin flip game between the two worst non-KU teams in the Big 12. It certainly lived up to expectations.
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Is there anything more overrated than the KSU defense?
Im surprised it took baylor an entire half to realize the middle part of our defense (in it's current lineup) struggles at alot of things.
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i dont think KSU forced a punt the entire 2nd half. they have their moments when they play well but just cannot play an entire 60 minutes. Brewer absolutely ripped their ass open throwing the ball and running the ball the entire game. Our LBs must have a ton of trouble covering in space because the last few games all the passing yards are short passes to wide open receivers who then break 3 tackles to get big yardage. D is severely over rated
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i dont think KSU forced a punt the entire 2nd half. they have their moments when they play well but just cannot play an entire 60 minutes. Brewer absolutely ripped their ass open throwing the ball and running the ball the entire game. Our LBs must have a ton of trouble covering in space because the last few games all the passing yards are short passes to wide open receivers who then break 3 tackles to get big yardage. D is severely over rated
Our starting LB's were out.
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Is there anything more overrated than the KSU defense?
I doubt we'll be overrated for a while. We're official bottom dwellers.
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No, dumbasses will keep hyping them.
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Fake season or not, this is an indictment of this staff and program. That drive at the end of the first half, and that drive at the end of the game were cowardly. They didn't let the offense try to win the game, they put it in the hands of a defense that didn't get a stop the entire second half.
THIS. RIGHT. HERE.
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Is there anything more overrated than the KSU defense?
Im surprised it took baylor an entire half to realize the middle part of our defense (in it's current lineup) struggles at alot of things.
once they figured it out KSU was helpless. we were not going to get a stop the rest of the game. and baylor knew on our last possession that we would just run run the ball and punt. Once Klieman knew our defense was toast he should have become more aggressive on offense
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4 of 12 drives were 3 & out or int on 3rd down instead of 3 & out.
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i dont think KSU forced a punt the entire 2nd half. they have their moments when they play well but just cannot play an entire 60 minutes. Brewer absolutely ripped their ass open throwing the ball and running the ball the entire game. Our LBs must have a ton of trouble covering in space because the last few games all the passing yards are short passes to wide open receivers who then break 3 tackles to get big yardage. D is severely over rated
Our starting LB's were out.
i know that. doesn't change that we can't cover the middle of the field. and this was a problem with sullivan and hughes in there too. we are not even close to adequate at LB. Green is coming around on run defense but cannot cover
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Fake season or not, this is an indictment of this staff and program. That drive at the end of the first half, and that drive at the end of the game were cowardly. They didn't let the offense try to win the game, they put it in the hands of a defense that didn't get a stop the entire second half.
He has to fire Messingham, I don’t think he has it in him though.
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Is there anything more overrated than the KSU defense?
I doubt we'll be overrated for a while. We're official bottom dwellers.
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No, dumbasses will keep hyping them.
Anyone hyping a defense that starts Elder shouldnt count.
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Fake season or not, this is an indictment of this staff and program. That drive at the end of the first half, and that drive at the end of the game were cowardly. They didn't let the offense try to win the game, they put it in the hands of a defense that didn't get a stop the entire second half.
Yep. Fake season or no, it sure seems like you know what you’re getting with Messingham. I’m going to have major concerns about Kli if he doesn’t get a new OC before the 2021 season.
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Fake season or not, this is an indictment of this staff and program. That drive at the end of the first half, and that drive at the end of the game were cowardly. They didn't let the offense try to win the game, they put it in the hands of a defense that didn't get a stop the entire second half.
He has to fire Messingham, I don’t think he has it in him though.
Fire Mess and start Ast and everything will be ok
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Messingham is not the issue here dude. FIRE THEM ALL.
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He’s kind of a lot of the issue though. In big situations our playcalling is incredibly easy to predict.
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When you don't have anyone on the team who can throw the ball, it's hard to call plays. Fire Klein for being the worst QB coach in the universe.
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Messingham is not the issue here dude. FIRE THEM ALL.
I’d be in favor of this if it were possible.
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He’s kind of a lot of the issue though. In big situations our playcalling is incredibly easy to predict.
And I should add stupid too. We were playing as if we were just trying to run clock, which we only could have done with like four first downs given the time remaining.
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Fire Klein for being the worst QB coach in the universe.
this doesn't even make sense. why isn't he the running backs coach?
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i dont think KSU forced a punt the entire 2nd half. they have their moments when they play well but just cannot play an entire 60 minutes. Brewer absolutely ripped their ass open throwing the ball and running the ball the entire game. Our LBs must have a ton of trouble covering in space because the last few games all the passing yards are short passes to wide open receivers who then break 3 tackles to get big yardage. D is severely over rated
Our starting LB's were out.
Probably wouldn't have helped. The LBs have been bad other than TCU and KU
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Are we going to lose this game?!
If we don't get a special teams touchdown or a turnover from Brewer on his half of the field, yes we will.
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Are we going to lose this game?!
If we don't get a special teams touchdown or a turnover from Brewer on his half of the field, yes we will.
thats what i told my wife at the beginning of the 4th quarter. KSU can not win a game when the offense has to score to win the game because the defense can not make a stop. they were going to need special teams or a turnover to win. it was a very helpless feeling to know we had to have something lucky to happen because we couldn't compete with them straight up
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with that said it is a HUGE advantage to have a 4 year senior QB running your offense versus the a true frosh who is without a doubt the worst P5 starting qB in america right now. the disparity in that position alone should make it almost impossible for KSU to win the game. then factor they actually have effective WRs to go alone with their senior QB and it was a miracle that we had a chance to win. Give KSU just an average QB and they have at least 2 more wins this year.
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Are we going to lose this game?!
If we don't get a special teams touchdown or a turnover from Brewer on his half of the field, yes we will.
thats what i told my wife at the beginning of the 4th quarter. KSU can not win a game when the offense has to score to win the game because the defense can not make a stop. they were going to need special teams or a turnover to win. it was a very helpless feeling to know we had to have something lucky to happen because we couldn't compete with them straight up
That's why after our punt, I wanted us to bring everydody and get Brewer on the ground or give up a quick strike and at least get the ball back. Otherwise they were going to kick a FG.
That defensive plan coupled with our loser offensive play calling during our last possession was scripting the inevitable bad ending.
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Also I knew deep down that the 2020 Texas state champs shirt probably wasn’t going to happen but this was a tough way for that bubble to burst
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At least our defense is stout