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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: sys on April 21, 2020, 09:59:40 PM
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we will be using worldometers total death count for polling purposes, which includes probable deaths for those states that report them. it currently stands at 45,340 deaths.
changed up the option format a little.
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This is getting old sys.
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It just keeps going...
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This is getting old sys.
i'm still interested.
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Start including the suicide deaths in these numbers because eff you for helping to perpetuate the governmental and media lies.
Will the CDC be kind enough to include the suicides as COVID deaths since they need them to hit their projections?
https://twitter.com/robmaness/status/1252807793830055942
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130 million worldwide from starvation projected due to this invisible enemy...
Are you happy yet?
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1252925138988916736
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Nobody is happy you dumbfuck.
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Start including the suicide deaths in these numbers because eff you for helping to perpetuate the governmental and media lies.
Will the CDC be kind enough to include the suicides as COVID deaths since they need them to hit their projections?
https://twitter.com/robmaness/status/1252807793830055942
The article cited by that tweet is from March 27. Tennessee has over 6 times the amount of coronavirus positives than they had when that article was written. As of now they have 157 coronavirus deaths. Last year they had roughly 1000 suicides or around 83 a month. Let's check back in a month and see what the covid numbers look like.
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Sorry waks... didn’t mean to strike a nerve.
Say what you will, but suicide will soon overtake this manufactured virus pandemic. Suicide is generally a function of depression and hopelessness which are both brought on by financial ruin.
I noticed that you conveniently didn’t address the starvation problem that’s right around the corner...
The United States has long been a superpower in food markets – and it is still the world's largest food exporter.
They’re now starting to contaminate our meat packing plants and shut those down. Pull your liberal head out of your ass and start facing the facts that more people are going to die from suicide and starvation ultimately than this weak ass virus.
But, hey, as long as it gets everybody to give up their civil liberties and makes Trump look bad, then those lives were worth it, right?
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Are you arguing that suicide will surpass virus related deaths, or just that it is something to consider?
Where does your prediction of suicides come from and what is it?
I’m saying that it definitely could, yes, and for sure starvation will.
Our President mentioned this numerous times as the pandemic began, however our fine media glossed over it and everyone was too busy attacking him from every angle to hear it.
A simple search for “will suicide increase due to corona virus” pulls up dozens of articles but here’s just one: https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/covid-19-is-likely-to-lead-to-an-increase-in-suicides/
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Bqqkie, are you thinking that food plants are being deliberately infected?
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last day to vote.
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Bqqkie, are you thinking that food plants are being deliberately infected?
I think it's reasonable to consider, however I wouldn't take a hard stand on either side at this point.
I've seen it as a valid concern, I haven't seen suicide compared to expected deaths from medical conditions from the virus, in a manner that I think is credible, that states the suicide deaths with be greater than medical deaths from Covid19. Or that there's a way to remove economic hardship (and the repercussions of) without the counterfactual of Sars Cov2 not existing.
Honestly, brother... it doesn't fit MSM's talking points "yet".
It's almost becoming to easy to forecast the talking points that will be used by major media outlets to bash Trump. Mark my words, and I'll happily come back to this thread and eat them if proven wrong in the next six months, I honestly believe when the COVID numbers drop to the point that "suicides" have significantly overtaken them, media will attack Trump for not opening the country soon enough to try to save these people. MSM Formula is: 1) Attack Trump 2) If talking point proves correct, attack mercilessly 3) If talking point proves wrong, change narrative 4) Rinse & Repeat
Also, [they] are also starting to plant the seeds in our minds of a "second wave". This whole thing is following the exercise/plan laid out by Gates' "Event 201" last October almost to perfection... It was all hidden in plain sight.
https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/about
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What would be the upside for the globalist pedophiles to take out the food supply? It seems to me that if you want to keep the populace locked in their homes for an extended period, a functioning food supply is essential.
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What would be the upside for the globalist pedophiles to take out the food supply? It seems to me that if you want to keep the populace locked in their homes for an extended period, a functioning food supply is essential.
Why does it have to be just the pedophiles? Or is combining all of the global elite into one category of "globalist pedophiles" one of the ways that you try to overcome your own cognitive dissonance with what's taking place?
Whats the easiest way to control people, especially large groups of people like an entire society? Panic and fear. That panic and fear is still a long ways off for most of us posting here, however it's becoming very real for the truly poverty stricken in these great United States.
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a lot more balance in voting this time, sys. I think people trust your skills!
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What would be the upside for the globalist pedophiles to take out the food supply? It seems to me that if you want to keep the populace locked in their homes for an extended period, a functioning food supply is essential.
Why does it have to be just the pedophiles? Or is combining all of the global elite into one category of "globalist pedophiles" one of the ways that you try to overcome your own cognitive dissonance with what's taking place?
Whats the easiest way to control people, especially large groups of people like an entire society? Panic and fear. That panic and fear is still a long ways off for most of us posting here, however it's becoming very real for the truly poverty stricken in these great United States.
No need to get hostile, I'm still learning and thought gates, fauci, et al are part of the globalist pedophile ring that trump is fighting against. My apologies if that is incorrect.
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What would be the upside for the globalist pedophiles to take out the food supply? It seems to me that if you want to keep the populace locked in their homes for an extended period, a functioning food supply is essential.
Why does it have to be just the pedophiles? Or is combining all of the global elite into one category of "globalist pedophiles" one of the ways that you try to overcome your own cognitive dissonance with what's taking place?
Whats the easiest way to control people, especially large groups of people like an entire society? Panic and fear. That panic and fear is still a long ways off for most of us posting here, however it's becoming very real for the truly poverty stricken in these great United States.
No need to get hostile, I'm still learning and thought gates, fauci, et al are part of the globalist pedophile ring that trump is fighting against. My apologies if that is incorrect.
Sorry, brother. Didn't mean to come of as hostile....
There's proof of gates being on Epstien's plane to pedo island multiple times after his arrest, but none for fauci to my knowledge unless it slipped past me.
I appreciate the kind discourse to be perfectly frank with you.
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a lot more balance in voting this time, sys. I think people trust your skills!
i probably just did a better job of binning the options. the interesting thing is that the last option should be an easy pick. not only do you get an infinite number of days instead of a week or less, but there is a widely-disseminated, widely-used model that it corresponds to.
to pick anything else, you have to think that a bunch of randos on a nominally sports-focused message board eyeballing the last few weeks mortality totals are likely to be more accurate by at least two months than this model.
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How will you handle the moving tally as they start to admit that a lot of folks didn't die from this bullshit?
https://twitter.com/chrisbergpov/status/1253802561305534464
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How will you handle the moving tally as they start to admit that a lot of folks didn't die from this bullshit?
https://twitter.com/chrisbergpov/status/1253802561305534464
Is that ... Ben Franklin in drag?
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Dee Snyder
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cheering for suicides is a pretty MAGA move.
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Bqqkie, are you thinking that food plants are being deliberately infected?
I think it's reasonable to consider, however I wouldn't take a hard stand on either side at this point.
I've seen it as a valid concern, I haven't seen suicide compared to expected deaths from medical conditions from the virus, in a manner that I think is credible, that states the suicide deaths with be greater than medical deaths from Covid19. Or that there's a way to remove economic hardship (and the repercussions of) without the counterfactual of Sars Cov2 not existing.
Honestly, brother... it doesn't fit MSM's talking points "yet".
It's almost becoming to easy to forecast the talking points that will be used by major media outlets to bash Trump. Mark my words, and I'll happily come back to this thread and eat them if proven wrong in the next six months, I honestly believe when the COVID numbers drop to the point that "suicides" have significantly overtaken them, media will attack Trump for not opening the country soon enough to try to save these people. MSM Formula is: 1) Attack Trump 2) If talking point proves correct, attack mercilessly 3) If talking point proves wrong, change narrative 4) Rinse & Repeat
Also, [they] are also starting to plant the seeds in our minds of a "second wave". This whole thing is following the exercise/plan laid out by Gates' "Event 201" last October almost to perfection... It was all hidden in plain sight.
https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/about
I am absolutely with bqqk on the conditioning for a second wave and it is something that causes me some concern. I think if we open the country back up this summer it needs to stay open. I hope the testing, tracing, treating, vaccines whatever has gotten us on the back end by then but you cannot expect employers to start hiring if they will get shutdown again in October.
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How will you handle the moving tally as they start to admit that a lot of folks didn't die from this bullshit?
we'll use the worldometers count, as explained in the first post. if there are major adjustments in how the count is compiled that poll takers could not reasonably have been able to anticipate, i'll consider adjusting the target. i'm not going to adjust for minor changes like the 200 in pa mentioned.
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:ohno:
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may as well call it, it's gonna be tomorrow or saturday. congratulations to the two posters who predicted correctly.
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I think I saw an article on DFW CBS this morning that 3 people died overnight in an auto accident from COVID. Don't forget to count them.
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i don't do the counts myself, bookie.
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I think I saw an article on DFW CBS this morning that 3 people died overnight in an auto accident from COVID. Don't forget to count them.
I have seen multiple variations of that boomer meme on SW KS Facebook tons
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I think I saw an article on DFW CBS this morning that 3 people died overnight in an auto accident from COVID. Don't forget to count them.
I have seen multiple variations of that boomer meme on SW KS Facebook tons
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Two threads a day on texags, minimum.
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i don't do the counts myself, bookie.
Just a little covid death count humor, sys. :cheers:
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I think I saw an article on DFW CBS this morning that 3 people died overnight in an auto accident from COVID. Don't forget to count them.
I have seen multiple variations of that boomer meme on SW KS Facebook tons
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Same. My 73-yr-old uncle w/ cancer is rightfully terrified of getting this. That doesn't stop him from sharing these memes and calling it a hoax though. Anything to own the libs.
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My 73-yr-old uncle w/ cancer is rightfully terrified of getting this. That doesn't stop him from sharing these memes and calling it a hoax though. Anything to own the libs.
amazing.
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one of the best coronavirus expert accounts predicts 300k deaths by the end of august. caveat being it's mostly a guess as to how we'll respond rather than about the biology of the virus.
https://twitter.com/trvrb/status/1255978143904444417
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:Lurk:
My 73-yr-old uncle w/ cancer is rightfully terrified of getting this. That doesn't stop him from sharing these memes and calling it a hoax though. Anything to own the libs.
amazing.
Hopefully people will realize this isn’t a libs vs pubs or MAGA vs TDS or white vs black with this before it’s too late.
[They] want us divided on whatever lines [they] can divide us on and [they] are winning.
https://twitter.com/jamesokeefeiii/status/1255909714552139776
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may as well call it, it's gonna be tomorrow or saturday. congratulations to the two posters who predicted correctly.
Yup call it for tomorrow.
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one of the best coronavirus expert accounts predicts 300k deaths by the end of august. caveat being it's mostly a guess as to how we'll respond rather than about the biology of the virus.
https://twitter.com/trvrb/status/1255978143904444417
This has been my view about this as well. Like, especially since we're in this "let's reopen this bitch" mode. No way this goes down like a miracle, and no bqqkie, I am not cheering wanting more deaths. I just don't see how it doesn't at least stay at this level, we've hit it for 3 weeks straight, and we've only just started to go down, and now we're trying to open it back up. Unlike Italy, Spain, France, et al, who actually waited longer before trying to do it. We're going to just make this as bad if not worse for a long time.
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It also seems reasonable to assume that the US would follow a course similar to NYC and the rest of the world, neither of which initially hung at a long plateau. We'll see!
(https://cdn.cms.prod.nypr.digital/images/4-30-20_new.2e16d0ba.fill-634x475.png)
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It also seems reasonable to assume that the US would follow a course similar to NYC and the rest of the world, neither of which initially hung at a long plateau. We'll see!
(https://cdn.cms.prod.nypr.digital/images/4-30-20_new.2e16d0ba.fill-634x475.png)
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I don't think a lot of the country will take a lockdown as seriously as New York did
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It also seems reasonable to assume that the US would follow a course similar to NYC and the rest of the world, neither of which initially hung at a long plateau. We'll see!
(https://cdn.cms.prod.nypr.digital/images/4-30-20_new.2e16d0ba.fill-634x475.png)
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I don't think a lot of the country will take a lockdown as seriously as New York did
Right, like, I would generally agree we'd fall down quicker if we stuck to it, but we're not so, we'll see.
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It also seems reasonable to assume that the US would follow a course similar to NYC and the rest of the world, neither of which initially hung at a long plateau. We'll see!
(https://cdn.cms.prod.nypr.digital/images/4-30-20_new.2e16d0ba.fill-634x475.png)
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I don't think a lot of the country will take a lockdown as seriously as New York did
NYC did not take it super seriously right away. Other states seem to be taking it about as seriously. It stands to reason that the population distribution of behaviors would be similar across states. And polls seem to support this.
Despite a FEW more businesses being open during May, people will continue to stay home, wear masks, etc. I'm guessing that will be enough to keep things headed in the right direction.
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It also seems reasonable to assume that the US would follow a course similar to NYC and the rest of the world, neither of which initially hung at a long plateau. We'll see!
(https://cdn.cms.prod.nypr.digital/images/4-30-20_new.2e16d0ba.fill-634x475.png)
(https://www.ft.com/__origami/service/image/v2/images/raw/http%3A%2F%2Fcom.ft.imagepublish.upp-prod-us.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fde42424a-896e-11ea-9dcb-fe6871f4145a?fit=scale-down&quality=highest&source=next&width=490)
I don't think a lot of the country will take a lockdown as seriously as New York did
NYC did not take it super seriously right away. Other states seem to be taking it about as seriously. It stands to reason that the population distribution of behaviors would be similar across states. And polls seem to support this.
Despite a FEW more businesses being open during May, people will continue to stay home, wear masks, etc. I'm guessing that will be enough to keep things headed in the right direction.
Let's hope so! I just don't feel optimistic about it.
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@sys - I dunno, but I think this new info from the CDC might greatly affect your death poll.
Is this poll for "COVID-19 deaths" or for "Deaths with Pneumonia, Influenza, or COVID"?
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/health_policy/Provisional-Death-Counts-COVID-19-Pneumonia-and-Influenza.pdf
Granted, it's back dated about 3 weeks, but I'm sure we can soon find an updated chart.
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we're going with the worldometers count on this one, bookie.
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i guess they must have restated a few deaths? at any rate, just up to 65753 today, so we didn't yet beat the model. still a chance this evening, but they don't usually add any more us deaths this late.
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we're going with the worldometers count on this one, bookie.
I know this flies in the face of the narrative sys, but the CDC is at least trying to get us more factual data for this.
https://twitter.com/timrunshismouth/status/1256442410500083713
Looks like it’s still really well under 40k
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm
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From your link, bq:
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