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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: gatoveintisiete on February 09, 2020, 05:59:03 PM
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This is the thread for non homophobes to gather and support Pete for the Democrat nomination, Lets GO!!
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What are Tubesock's thoughts on Pete?
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The word I got was that he was banned by a hyper sensitive moderator
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Don't muck up the Pete thread homophobes
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Every nominee from either party ever has taken 1st or 2nd in the N H primary. :excited:
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This is a nice warm cozy thread for people that found out today that Bloomy is unacceptable to them.
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Stud Answer
HHS Sec
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SLAYER Pete!
https://twitter.com/bulldoghill/status/1315946073421094914?s=21
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I like this Pete a lot more than candidate Pete
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He's always been like this :dunno:
But glad you all actually get to hear him. I guess it's less policy, and more being literally smarter than everyone he meets so he can just demolish them at whatever they talk about.
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He's always been like this :dunno:
But glad you all actually get to hear him. I guess it's less policy, and more being literally smarter than everyone he meets so he can just demolish them at whatever they talk about.
No candidate Pete seemed a lot more calculated and sterile. Might have been because we saw so much more of him but this Pete seems to be talking off the cuff more and being meaner (and it's probably actually really intentional and based on research that said he was too calculated and sterile as a candidate)
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It’s the same guy. You probably just like him more without the Bernie goggles.
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It’s the same guy. You probably just like him more without the Bernie goggles.
This (to me at least)
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YOU'RE ALL WRONG :curse:
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Isn't this pretty much the standard pro-choice position? I've seen this in a couple of spots and I'm not sure what's novel or compelling about it.
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Isn't this pretty much the standard pro-choice position? I've seen this in a couple of spots and I'm not sure what's novel or compelling about it.
My impression (WHICH SOME TAKE ISSUE WITH) is that a lot of (most?) pro-choice politicians run from the question even if they agree with Pete's stance while he took it head on and said "yes there should be late term abortions and here's why". I could be wrong though, most pro-choice politicians' abortion takes don't make the news
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The answer is complete and utter bullshit and completely ignores all of the empirical data we have on the subject but sure. Of course tragic outliers of a fetal anomaly exist but even studies done by pro-choice institutes admit it is a very small percentage. In fact the reasons given for late-term abortions don't differ much at all for reasons given earlier in pregnancy. (Financial burden, disrupt partner relationship, interfere with work/education, etc.). His answer simply pushes the debunked (yet still hugely popular) 'medical necessity' narrative that has no basis in fact. The fact that he says "these hypotheticals are usually set up to provoke a strong emotional reaction" and then sets up a hypothetical to provoke a strong emotional reaction is especially strange.
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Other than obviously articulating it well, I agree the most unique aspect is addressing it head on, which is what I’ve always liked about Pete.
Very few pro-choice politicians are willing to say they think the woman has the right to choose between her health and the baby’s. He’s acknowledging that and basically saying he thinks the choice is less likely to be abused in the hands of the mother.
I don’t really agree with it, but I appreciate the clarity.
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The answer is complete and utter bullshit and completely ignores all of the empirical data we have on the subject but sure. Of course tragic outliers of a fetal anomaly exist but even studies done by pro-choice institutes admit it is a very small percentage. In fact the reasons given for late-term abortions don't differ much at all for reasons given earlier in pregnancy. (Financial burden, disrupt partner relationship, interfere with work/education, etc.). His answer simply pushes the debunked (yet still hugely popular) 'medical necessity' narrative that has no basis in fact. The fact that he says "these hypotheticals are usually set up to provoke a strong emotional reaction" and then sets up a hypothetical to provoke a strong emotional reaction is especially strange.
whoa calm down mister politics man
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Damn, I knew you were going to get me on that.
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Other than obviously articulating it well, I agree the most unique aspect is addressing it head on, which is what I’ve always liked about Pete.
Very few pro-choice politicians are willing to say they think the woman has the right to choose between her health and the baby’s. He’s acknowledging that and basically saying he thinks the choice is less likely to be abused in the hands of the mother.
I don’t really agree with it, but I appreciate the clarity.
I think the big question is: is what he’s saying actually true? Or is it some bullshit being made up to make people feel better.
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his middle name is Paul which means we (america) missed out on the opportunity to have a President P.P. Butt
i hope you'll all take a minute to think about your life choices.
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Hopefully his VP in 2032 is Mary!
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Other than obviously articulating it well, I agree the most unique aspect is addressing it head on, which is what I’ve always liked about Pete.
Very few pro-choice politicians are willing to say they think the woman has the right to choose between her health and the baby’s. He’s acknowledging that and basically saying he thinks the choice is less likely to be abused in the hands of the mother.
I don’t really agree with it, but I appreciate the clarity.
I think the big question is: is what he’s saying actually true? Or is it some bullshit being made up to make people feel better.
Is it true that it takes an incredibly physical and emotional toll on a woman to carry a child for 7 months or longer? Is that a serious question?
To me, his point is that political arguments about third term abortions are reductive and don't take into account that it's the most serious decision that a woman will make their entire life.
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Other than obviously articulating it well, I agree the most unique aspect is addressing it head on, which is what I’ve always liked about Pete.
Very few pro-choice politicians are willing to say they think the woman has the right to choose between her health and the baby’s. He’s acknowledging that and basically saying he thinks the choice is less likely to be abused in the hands of the mother.
I don’t really agree with it, but I appreciate the clarity.
I think the big question is: is what he’s saying actually true? Or is it some bullshit being made up to make people feel better.
Is it true that it takes an incredibly physical and emotional toll on a woman to carry a child for 7 months or longer? Is that a serious question?
To me, his point is that political arguments about third term abortions are reductive and don't take into account that it's the most serious decision that a woman will make their entire life.
Pete says he wants to be clear that women should get to draw the line when their own health or the viability of the baby is at stake. So is he saying that doesn't support late-term abortion when neither of those are a factor (vast majority of cases)?
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Pete says he wants to be clear that women should get to draw the line when their own health or the viability of the baby is at stake. So is he saying that doesn't support late-term abortion when neither of those are a factor (vast majority of cases)?
what's your source for this?
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Pete says he wants to be clear that women should get to draw the line when their own health or the viability of the baby is at stake. So is he saying that doesn't support late-term abortion when neither of those are a factor (vast majority of cases)?
what's your source for this?
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1363/4521013
five general profiles of women who sought later abortions, describing 80% of the sample.” These women were “raising children alone, were depressed or using illicit substances, were in conflict with a male partner or experiencing domestic violence, had trouble deciding and then had access problems, or were young and nulliparous.
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His point seems to extend to all that as well.
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I mean
Our study has several important limitations. Our data are limited by the exclusion of women who sought later abortions on grounds of fetal anomaly or life endangerment. Because of waiting time for testing and diagnosis, delay in seeking care among that population likely differs significantly from the delays faced by women in our study. In addition, while some aspects of our findings may be generalizable beyond the United States, the results are largely limited in their applicability to other cultural and legal environments.
Still an interesting read. Seems like a good way to reduce late term abortions is to provide better health care and easier access to abortions earlier in the pregnancy
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Our study has several important limitations. Our data are limited by the exclusion of women who sought later abortions on grounds of fetal anomaly or life endangerment. Because of waiting time for testing and diagnosis, delay in seeking care among that population likely differs significantly from the delays faced by women in our study. In addition, while some aspects of our findings may be generalizable beyond the United States, the results are largely limited in their applicability to other cultural and legal environments.
Still an interesting read. Seems like a good way to reduce late term abortions is to provide better health care and easier access to abortions earlier in the pregnancy
That's a good way to reduce all abortions. It's why the rate dropped so much during Obama's presidency.
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Our study has several important limitations. Our data are limited by the exclusion of women who sought later abortions on grounds of fetal anomaly or life endangerment. Because of waiting time for testing and diagnosis, delay in seeking care among that population likely differs significantly from the delays faced by women in our study. In addition, while some aspects of our findings may be generalizable beyond the United States, the results are largely limited in their applicability to other cultural and legal environments.
Still an interesting read. Seems like a good way to reduce late term abortions is to provide better health care and easier access to abortions earlier in the pregnancy
Even so
But data suggest that most women seeking later terminations are not doing so for reasons of fetal anomaly or life endangerment.
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The whole reason they did the study is because they realized a bunch of people were getting late term abortions that didn't have anything to do with fetal anomaly or the mother's health and they wanted to see why they were waiting so long.
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Our study has several important limitations. Our data are limited by the exclusion of women who sought later abortions on grounds of fetal anomaly or life endangerment. Because of waiting time for testing and diagnosis, delay in seeking care among that population likely differs significantly from the delays faced by women in our study. In addition, while some aspects of our findings may be generalizable beyond the United States, the results are largely limited in their applicability to other cultural and legal environments.
Still an interesting read. Seems like a good way to reduce late term abortions is to provide better health care and easier access to abortions earlier in the pregnancy
It is frustrating to me that so few pro lifers really go all in on better overall health care + birth control education and availability. It’s like other than changing peoples’ minds completely or just criminalizing abortion outright there’s no better way to end up with fewer dead babies.
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Isn't this pretty much the standard pro-choice position? I've seen this in a couple of spots and I'm not sure what's novel or compelling about it.
it is, yeah. but he states it well.
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https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1549861708830625793?s=20&t=veTU3eC1qjwOQNOUIeAGrQ
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I’d vote for him but I’m sure I’m the minority by a wide margin
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https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1549861708830625793?s=20&t=veTU3eC1qjwOQNOUIeAGrQ
Holy crap
I’d vote for him but I’m sure I’m the minority by a wide margin
couldn't be worse
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would vote for him
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He’s a clown. But he’s a clown #blueanon can get behind.
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He’s a clown. But he’s a clown #blueanon can get behind.
What makes him a clown? I think he has no charisma and would never inspire people to vote for him. In my viewpoint he is an uncaring pragmatist that would govern like you would expect a Mckinsey(ite) to.
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I’d vote for him but I’m sure I’m the minority by a wide margin
Pete is the only politician that I actually stan for. He's great.
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I’d vote for him but I’m sure I’m the minority by a wide margin
Pete is the only politician that I actually stan for. He's great.
You have to stan for something.
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He’s a clown. But he’s a clown #blueanon can get behind.
What makes him a clown? I think he has no charisma and would never inspire people to vote for him. In my viewpoint he is an uncaring pragmatist that would govern like you would expect a Mckinsey(ite) to.
Pete is an agendite. I don't see any plan that's grounded in reality. I see a plan that's formulated to pay off the dark money that flows through the Biden/Democratic party like a raging river. I see a plan to that will pay off quite well for entities that are not domestically based, and I see a plan that hammers the average American. I'm not the least bit impressed the job that Pete's agency is doing. Now admittedly that could be an offshoot of the #shitshow that is the Oval Office and the people that control our President.
Maybe Pete can break away into reality if he's ever back on the stump on his own accord. But as of right now, no thanks.
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He’s a clown. But he’s a clown #blueanon can get behind.
What makes him a clown? I think he has no charisma and would never inspire people to vote for him. In my viewpoint he is an uncaring pragmatist that would govern like you would expect a Mckinsey(ite) to.
Pete is an agendite. I don't see any plan that's grounded in reality. I see a plan that's formulated to pay off the dark money that flows through the Biden/Democratic party like a raging river. I see a plan to that will pay off quite well for entities that are not domestically based, and I see a plan that hammers the average American. I'm not the least bit impressed the job that Pete's agency is doing. Now admittedly that could be an offshoot of the #shitshow that is the Oval Office and the people that control our President.
Maybe Pete can break away into reality if he's ever back on the stump on his own accord. But as of right now, no thanks.
That’s well thought out, thanks for the reply. I’m not really holding anyone to policy put out under Biden for some of the reasons you presented above. He certainly seems susceptible to special interest money given I background I do agree with that.
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I think Pete is probably the most capable realistic candidate who could accomplish a lot of his platforms through the executive bureaucracy.
I also think he’s probably one of the least capable of getting Congress to do something useful, but I’ve kind of soured on them being able to do crap either way.
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He’s a clown. But he’s a clown #blueanon can get behind.
What makes him a clown? I think he has no charisma and would never inspire people to vote for him. In my viewpoint he is an uncaring pragmatist that would govern like you would expect a Mckinsey(ite) to.
Pete is an agendite. I don't see any plan that's grounded in reality. I see a plan that's formulated to pay off the dark money that flows through the Biden/Democratic party like a raging river. I see a plan to that will pay off quite well for entities that are not domestically based, and I see a plan that hammers the average American. I'm not the least bit impressed the job that Pete's agency is doing. Now admittedly that could be an offshoot of the #shitshow that is the Oval Office and the people that control our President.
Maybe Pete can break away into reality if he's ever back on the stump on his own accord. But as of right now, no thanks.
Not sure how anyone could argue against this.
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He’s a clown. But he’s a clown #blueanon can get behind.
What makes him a clown? I think he has no charisma and would never inspire people to vote for him. In my viewpoint he is an uncaring pragmatist that would govern like you would expect a Mckinsey(ite) to.
Pete is an agendite. I don't see any plan that's grounded in reality. I see a plan that's formulated to pay off the dark money that flows through the Biden/Democratic party like a raging river. I see a plan to that will pay off quite well for entities that are not domestically based, and I see a plan that hammers the average American. I'm not the least bit impressed the job that Pete's agency is doing. Now admittedly that could be an offshoot of the #shitshow that is the Oval Office and the people that control our President.
Maybe Pete can break away into reality if he's ever back on the stump on his own accord. But as of right now, no thanks.
Not sure how anyone could argue against this.
Perhaps I'm biased, but Pete is the only politician I actually will earhole people about. I appreciate Bernie's honesty/sincerity, but like the Democratic party establishment, I also recognize his proposed policies don't stand a chance of becoming law (currently, of course).
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He’s a clown. But he’s a clown #blueanon can get behind.
What makes him a clown? I think he has no charisma and would never inspire people to vote for him. In my viewpoint he is an uncaring pragmatist that would govern like you would expect a Mckinsey(ite) to.
Pete is an agendite. I don't see any plan that's grounded in reality. I see a plan that's formulated to pay off the dark money that flows through the Biden/Democratic party like a raging river. I see a plan to that will pay off quite well for entities that are not domestically based, and I see a plan that hammers the average American. I'm not the least bit impressed the job that Pete's agency is doing. Now admittedly that could be an offshoot of the #shitshow that is the Oval Office and the people that control our President.
Maybe Pete can break away into reality if he's ever back on the stump on his own accord. But as of right now, no thanks.
Not sure how anyone could argue against this.
Perhaps I'm biased, but Pete is the only politician I actually will earhole people about. I appreciate Bernie's honesty/sincerity, but like the Democratic party establishment, I also recognize his proposed policies don't stand a chance of becoming law (currently, of course).
He's a devoted Obama acolyte. If I walks like a duck...
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I mostly liked Obama, so I don't see the problem in "Obama Acolyte".
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I mostly liked Obama, so I don't see the problem in "Obama Acolyte".
Yeah, seems good and moderate’y
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I mostly liked Obama, so I don't see the problem in "Obama Acolyte".
Yeah, seems good and moderate’y
Did he run on a moderate platform or nah? Other than being a warmonger, what made him a moderate as opposed to someone with liberal rhetoric with no interest in advancing the liberal ideals he espoused because doing so would threaten democrat power and control.
What actual policy advancement, that he championed, would be considered conservative or moderate?
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I mostly liked Obama, so I don't see the problem in "Obama Acolyte".
Well, his presidency was exactly like what dax described for Pete and the Biden presidency looks like more of the same, so you must be cool with the description.
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He’s a clown. But he’s a clown #blueanon can get behind.
What makes him a clown? I think he has no charisma and would never inspire people to vote for him. In my viewpoint he is an uncaring pragmatist that would govern like you would expect a Mckinsey(ite) to.
Pete is an agendite. I don't see any plan that's grounded in reality. I see a plan that's formulated to pay off the dark money that flows through the Biden/Democratic party like a raging river. I see a plan to that will pay off quite well for entities that are not domestically based, and I see a plan that hammers the average American. I'm not the least bit impressed the job that Pete's agency is doing. Now admittedly that could be an offshoot of the #shitshow that is the Oval Office and the people that control our President.
Maybe Pete can break away into reality if he's ever back on the stump on his own accord. But as of right now, no thanks.
Not sure how anyone could argue against this.
Perhaps I'm biased, but Pete is the only politician I actually will earhole people about. I appreciate Bernie's honesty/sincerity, but like the Democratic party establishment, I also recognize his proposed policies don't stand a chance of becoming law (currently, of course).
He's a devoted Obama acolyte. If I walks like a duck...
I like a steady Captain manning the ship's wheel. Also, and I'm not trying to be condescending, but the Democrats would do well to pay attention to the voices they don't hear on the internet, because the majority of the country exists in the middle, policy-wise. I think the leadership of the party knows that, hence the undermining of Bernie and the non-Biden, moderate-ish candidates dropping out of the race right before Super Tuesday in order to consolidate support behind Biden. Granted, Biden's not the best, but Trump was infinitely worse. This is our system.
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I think calling Pete Obama lite was an insult but to that’s exactly why I like him
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I mostly liked Obama, so I don't see the problem in "Obama Acolyte".
Well, his presidency was exactly like what dax described for Pete and the Biden presidency looks like more of the same, so you must be cool with the description.
Biden hasn't been that bad, either.
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I mostly liked Obama, so I don't see the problem in "Obama Acolyte".
Well, his presidency was exactly like what dax described for Pete and the Biden presidency looks like more of the same, so you must be cool with the description.
Biden hasn't been that bad, either.
Vibe is WRECKED
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Yea wtf are you doing man
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He’s a clown. But he’s a clown #blueanon can get behind.
What makes him a clown? I think he has no charisma and would never inspire people to vote for him. In my viewpoint he is an uncaring pragmatist that would govern like you would expect a Mckinsey(ite) to.
Pete is an agendite. I don't see any plan that's grounded in reality. I see a plan that's formulated to pay off the dark money that flows through the Biden/Democratic party like a raging river. I see a plan to that will pay off quite well for entities that are not domestically based, and I see a plan that hammers the average American. I'm not the least bit impressed the job that Pete's agency is doing. Now admittedly that could be an offshoot of the #shitshow that is the Oval Office and the people that control our President.
Maybe Pete can break away into reality if he's ever back on the stump on his own accord. But as of right now, no thanks.
Not sure how anyone could argue against this.
Perhaps I'm biased, but Pete is the only politician I actually will earhole people about. I appreciate Bernie's honesty/sincerity, but like the Democratic party establishment, I also recognize his proposed policies don't stand a chance of becoming law (currently, of course).
He's a devoted Obama acolyte. If I walks like a duck...
I like a steady Captain manning the ship's wheel. Also, and I'm not trying to be condescending, but the Democrats would do well to pay attention to the voices they don't hear on the internet, because the majority of the country exists in the middle, policy-wise. I think the leadership of the party knows that, hence the undermining of Bernie and the non-Biden, moderate-ish candidates dropping out of the race right before Super Tuesday in order to consolidate support behind Biden. Granted, Biden's not the best, but Trump was infinitely worse. This is our system.
The Democrat party would be better off not listening to people like you, wetwillie, and RATM who are, three white men, who presumably doing well with your finances and don't have grievances.
Obama was a statesman who cared about governance, processes, and the appearance of unity. Not only did his spoken agenda got completely wrecked, but he got branded as some radical liberal. His need to have beltway insiders look on him kindly is the greatest reason Roe v. Wade wasn't codified. His need to be admired by people who read The Economist and Roll Call led to the right having a 6-3 majority on the supreme court.
28 years of center governance and Washington insider politics led to trumpism, and the democrats completely lost the working class of this country. They caught a break, because trump was such a sack of crap and trainwreck. What did the Dems do with that break? Only nominate and elect the least popular president in American history and get a majority of congress that they can't do a damn thing with, other than continue to stack up Ls.
Most of the country thinks we are headed in the wrong direction and Pete absolutely represents the status quo of corporate politics, that most of the country has repeatedly told you idiot democrats that they don't want.
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He’s a clown. But he’s a clown #blueanon can get behind.
What makes him a clown? I think he has no charisma and would never inspire people to vote for him. In my viewpoint he is an uncaring pragmatist that would govern like you would expect a Mckinsey(ite) to.
Pete is an agendite. I don't see any plan that's grounded in reality. I see a plan that's formulated to pay off the dark money that flows through the Biden/Democratic party like a raging river. I see a plan to that will pay off quite well for entities that are not domestically based, and I see a plan that hammers the average American. I'm not the least bit impressed the job that Pete's agency is doing. Now admittedly that could be an offshoot of the #shitshow that is the Oval Office and the people that control our President.
Maybe Pete can break away into reality if he's ever back on the stump on his own accord. But as of right now, no thanks.
Not sure how anyone could argue against this.
Perhaps I'm biased, but Pete is the only politician I actually will earhole people about. I appreciate Bernie's honesty/sincerity, but like the Democratic party establishment, I also recognize his proposed policies don't stand a chance of becoming law (currently, of course).
He's a devoted Obama acolyte. If I walks like a duck...
I like a steady Captain manning the ship's wheel. Also, and I'm not trying to be condescending, but the Democrats would do well to pay attention to the voices they don't hear on the internet, because the majority of the country exists in the middle, policy-wise. I think the leadership of the party knows that, hence the undermining of Bernie and the non-Biden, moderate-ish candidates dropping out of the race right before Super Tuesday in order to consolidate support behind Biden. Granted, Biden's not the best, but Trump was infinitely worse. This is our system.
The Democrat party would be better off not listening to people like you, wetwillie, and RATM who are, three white men, who presumably doing well with your finances and don't have grievances.
Obama was a statesman who cared about governance, processes, and the appearance of unity. Not only did his spoken agenda got completely wrecked, but he got branded as some radical liberal. His need to have beltway insiders look on him kindly is the greatest reason Roe v. Wade wasn't codified. His need to be admired by people who read The Economist and Roll Call led to the right having a 6-3 majority on the supreme court.
28 years of center governance and Washington insider politics led to trumpism, and the democrats completely lost the working class of this country. They caught a break, because trump was such a sack of crap and trainwreck. What did the Dems do with that break? Only nominate and elect the least popular president in American history and get a majority of congress that they can't do a damn thing with, other than continue to stack up Ls.
Most of the country thinks we are headed in the wrong direction and Pete absolutely represents the status quo of corporate politics, that most of the country has repeatedly told you idiot democrats that they don't want.
I generally trust your judgment, because you're a super smart dude. But I have to point out that I am not a Democrat, so I have no idea why the party would even listen to me. I'm just trying to be pragmatic, here.
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He’s a clown. But he’s a clown #blueanon can get behind.
What makes him a clown? I think he has no charisma and would never inspire people to vote for him. In my viewpoint he is an uncaring pragmatist that would govern like you would expect a Mckinsey(ite) to.
Pete is an agendite. I don't see any plan that's grounded in reality. I see a plan that's formulated to pay off the dark money that flows through the Biden/Democratic party like a raging river. I see a plan to that will pay off quite well for entities that are not domestically based, and I see a plan that hammers the average American. I'm not the least bit impressed the job that Pete's agency is doing. Now admittedly that could be an offshoot of the #shitshow that is the Oval Office and the people that control our President.
Maybe Pete can break away into reality if he's ever back on the stump on his own accord. But as of right now, no thanks.
Not sure how anyone could argue against this.
Perhaps I'm biased, but Pete is the only politician I actually will earhole people about. I appreciate Bernie's honesty/sincerity, but like the Democratic party establishment, I also recognize his proposed policies don't stand a chance of becoming law (currently, of course).
He's a devoted Obama acolyte. If I walks like a duck...
I like a steady Captain manning the ship's wheel. Also, and I'm not trying to be condescending, but the Democrats would do well to pay attention to the voices they don't hear on the internet, because the majority of the country exists in the middle, policy-wise. I think the leadership of the party knows that, hence the undermining of Bernie and the non-Biden, moderate-ish candidates dropping out of the race right before Super Tuesday in order to consolidate support behind Biden. Granted, Biden's not the best, but Trump was infinitely worse. This is our system.
The Democrat party would be better off not listening to people like you, wetwillie, and RATM who are, three white men, who presumably doing well with your finances and don't have grievances.
Obama was a statesman who cared about governance, processes, and the appearance of unity. Not only did his spoken agenda got completely wrecked, but he got branded as some radical liberal. His need to have beltway insiders look on him kindly is the greatest reason Roe v. Wade wasn't codified. His need to be admired by people who read The Economist and Roll Call led to the right having a 6-3 majority on the supreme court.
28 years of center governance and Washington insider politics led to trumpism, and the democrats completely lost the working class of this country. They caught a break, because trump was such a sack of crap and trainwreck. What did the Dems do with that break? Only nominate and elect the least popular president in American history and get a majority of congress that they can't do a damn thing with, other than continue to stack up Ls.
Most of the country thinks we are headed in the wrong direction and Pete absolutely represents the status quo of corporate politics, that most of the country has repeatedly told you idiot democrats that they don't want.
I generally trust your judgment, because you're a super smart dude. But I have to point out that I am not a Democrat, so I have no idea why the party would even listen to me. I'm just trying to be pragmatic, here.
I'm not either. There are currently for posters telling us how they are cool with Pete, two of them aren't Democrats, one I believe is a moderate Democrat. The last two moderate democratic presidents didn't accomplish much, certainly didn't have legacy legislation. The party is now running from the policy victories and legacy of the first moderate democrat president of this era.
As someone who isn't a democrat, I hope they keep stepping on their own hoots and dongs. As an American I hope they wake the eff up and do something to take the country back and stop with the status quo that isn't working for many outside of the beltway.
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While I may not be a card-carrying member of the Democratic party, there's no way in hell I can support this iteration of the GOP. I'm sure we can at least agree on that and go from there.
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He’s a clown. But he’s a clown #blueanon can get behind.
What makes him a clown? I think he has no charisma and would never inspire people to vote for him. In my viewpoint he is an uncaring pragmatist that would govern like you would expect a Mckinsey(ite) to.
Pete is an agendite. I don't see any plan that's grounded in reality. I see a plan that's formulated to pay off the dark money that flows through the Biden/Democratic party like a raging river. I see a plan to that will pay off quite well for entities that are not domestically based, and I see a plan that hammers the average American. I'm not the least bit impressed the job that Pete's agency is doing. Now admittedly that could be an offshoot of the #shitshow that is the Oval Office and the people that control our President.
Maybe Pete can break away into reality if he's ever back on the stump on his own accord. But as of right now, no thanks.
Not sure how anyone could argue against this.
Perhaps I'm biased, but Pete is the only politician I actually will earhole people about. I appreciate Bernie's honesty/sincerity, but like the Democratic party establishment, I also recognize his proposed policies don't stand a chance of becoming law (currently, of course).
He's a devoted Obama acolyte. If I walks like a duck...
I like a steady Captain manning the ship's wheel. Also, and I'm not trying to be condescending, but the Democrats would do well to pay attention to the voices they don't hear on the internet, because the majority of the country exists in the middle, policy-wise. I think the leadership of the party knows that, hence the undermining of Bernie and the non-Biden, moderate-ish candidates dropping out of the race right before Super Tuesday in order to consolidate support behind Biden. Granted, Biden's not the best, but Trump was infinitely worse. This is our system.
The Democrat party would be better off not listening to people like you, wetwillie, and RATM who are, three white men, who presumably doing well with your finances and don't have grievances.
Obama was a statesman who cared about governance, processes, and the appearance of unity. Not only did his spoken agenda got completely wrecked, but he got branded as some radical liberal. His need to have beltway insiders look on him kindly is the greatest reason Roe v. Wade wasn't codified. His need to be admired by people who read The Economist and Roll Call led to the right having a 6-3 majority on the supreme court.
28 years of center governance and Washington insider politics led to trumpism, and the democrats completely lost the working class of this country. They caught a break, because trump was such a sack of crap and trainwreck. What did the Dems do with that break? Only nominate and elect the least popular president in American history and get a majority of congress that they can't do a damn thing with, other than continue to stack up Ls.
Most of the country thinks we are headed in the wrong direction and Pete absolutely represents the status quo of corporate politics, that most of the country has repeatedly told you idiot democrats that they don't want.
Yea I don’t think Pete is really a democrat, he’s just been forced into that bucket due to how far right republicans have gone in general. You also pegged my demographic, damn.
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That is definitely how I feel, but I also can't stomach many pub policies before trump, so I'd never come close to them anyways.
Mir is def right the dems lost of the plot of the average american, and also don't have the fortitude to do something.
I do think Spracs when he mean "stop listening to the internet" was getting involved with the petty crap that goes on on twitter. While I am a firm believer in the pubs instigating the culture war bullshit, dems need to just not even engage in that. It's so much effort for no gain.
Get the average american actual tax benefits, stop shilling out to all the corporations, and stop letting pubs drive the conversation on anything, it's only leading to nothing and pubs slowly chipping away at anything worthwhile in this country anymore.
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what a bizarre turn this thread is taking.
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He’s a clown. But he’s a clown #blueanon can get behind.
What makes him a clown? I think he has no charisma and would never inspire people to vote for him. In my viewpoint he is an uncaring pragmatist that would govern like you would expect a Mckinsey(ite) to.
Pete is an agendite. I don't see any plan that's grounded in reality. I see a plan that's formulated to pay off the dark money that flows through the Biden/Democratic party like a raging river. I see a plan to that will pay off quite well for entities that are not domestically based, and I see a plan that hammers the average American. I'm not the least bit impressed the job that Pete's agency is doing. Now admittedly that could be an offshoot of the #shitshow that is the Oval Office and the people that control our President.
Maybe Pete can break away into reality if he's ever back on the stump on his own accord. But as of right now, no thanks.
Not sure how anyone could argue against this.
Perhaps I'm biased, but Pete is the only politician I actually will earhole people about. I appreciate Bernie's honesty/sincerity, but like the Democratic party establishment, I also recognize his proposed policies don't stand a chance of becoming law (currently, of course).
He's a devoted Obama acolyte. If I walks like a duck...
I like a steady Captain manning the ship's wheel. Also, and I'm not trying to be condescending, but the Democrats would do well to pay attention to the voices they don't hear on the internet, because the majority of the country exists in the middle, policy-wise. I think the leadership of the party knows that, hence the undermining of Bernie and the non-Biden, moderate-ish candidates dropping out of the race right before Super Tuesday in order to consolidate support behind Biden. Granted, Biden's not the best, but Trump was infinitely worse. This is our system.
Completely agree. Bernie was leading the primary just before Super Tuesday and rich fucks and political influencers couldn't let that happen, that's exactly why they all jumped out and out of nowhere Biden's broke campaign fund grew tremendously.
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He’s a clown. But he’s a clown #blueanon can get behind.
What makes him a clown? I think he has no charisma and would never inspire people to vote for him. In my viewpoint he is an uncaring pragmatist that would govern like you would expect a Mckinsey(ite) to.
Pete is an agendite. I don't see any plan that's grounded in reality. I see a plan that's formulated to pay off the dark money that flows through the Biden/Democratic party like a raging river. I see a plan to that will pay off quite well for entities that are not domestically based, and I see a plan that hammers the average American. I'm not the least bit impressed the job that Pete's agency is doing. Now admittedly that could be an offshoot of the #shitshow that is the Oval Office and the people that control our President.
Maybe Pete can break away into reality if he's ever back on the stump on his own accord. But as of right now, no thanks.
Not sure how anyone could argue against this.
Perhaps I'm biased, but Pete is the only politician I actually will earhole people about. I appreciate Bernie's honesty/sincerity, but like the Democratic party establishment, I also recognize his proposed policies don't stand a chance of becoming law (currently, of course).
He's a devoted Obama acolyte. If I walks like a duck...
I like a steady Captain manning the ship's wheel. Also, and I'm not trying to be condescending, but the Democrats would do well to pay attention to the voices they don't hear on the internet, because the majority of the country exists in the middle, policy-wise. I think the leadership of the party knows that, hence the undermining of Bernie and the non-Biden, moderate-ish candidates dropping out of the race right before Super Tuesday in order to consolidate support behind Biden. Granted, Biden's not the best, but Trump was infinitely worse. This is our system.
Completely agree. Bernie was leading the primary just before Super Tuesday and rich fucks and political influencers couldn't let that happen, that's exactly why they all jumped out and out of nowhere Biden's broke campaign fund grew tremendously.
Bernie was never winning crap either way
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He’s a clown. But he’s a clown #blueanon can get behind.
What makes him a clown? I think he has no charisma and would never inspire people to vote for him. In my viewpoint he is an uncaring pragmatist that would govern like you would expect a Mckinsey(ite) to.
Pete is an agendite. I don't see any plan that's grounded in reality. I see a plan that's formulated to pay off the dark money that flows through the Biden/Democratic party like a raging river. I see a plan to that will pay off quite well for entities that are not domestically based, and I see a plan that hammers the average American. I'm not the least bit impressed the job that Pete's agency is doing. Now admittedly that could be an offshoot of the #shitshow that is the Oval Office and the people that control our President.
Maybe Pete can break away into reality if he's ever back on the stump on his own accord. But as of right now, no thanks.
Not sure how anyone could argue against this.
Perhaps I'm biased, but Pete is the only politician I actually will earhole people about. I appreciate Bernie's honesty/sincerity, but like the Democratic party establishment, I also recognize his proposed policies don't stand a chance of becoming law (currently, of course).
He's a devoted Obama acolyte. If I walks like a duck...
I like a steady Captain manning the ship's wheel. Also, and I'm not trying to be condescending, but the Democrats would do well to pay attention to the voices they don't hear on the internet, because the majority of the country exists in the middle, policy-wise. I think the leadership of the party knows that, hence the undermining of Bernie and the non-Biden, moderate-ish candidates dropping out of the race right before Super Tuesday in order to consolidate support behind Biden. Granted, Biden's not the best, but Trump was infinitely worse. This is our system.
Completely agree. Bernie was leading the primary just before Super Tuesday and rich fucks and political influencers couldn't let that happen, that's exactly why they all jumped out and out of nowhere Biden's broke campaign fund grew tremendously.
Bernie was never winning crap either way
You would have voted for him in the general for the same reason I voted for Biden.
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He’s a clown. But he’s a clown #blueanon can get behind.
What makes him a clown? I think he has no charisma and would never inspire people to vote for him. In my viewpoint he is an uncaring pragmatist that would govern like you would expect a Mckinsey(ite) to.
Pete is an agendite. I don't see any plan that's grounded in reality. I see a plan that's formulated to pay off the dark money that flows through the Biden/Democratic party like a raging river. I see a plan to that will pay off quite well for entities that are not domestically based, and I see a plan that hammers the average American. I'm not the least bit impressed the job that Pete's agency is doing. Now admittedly that could be an offshoot of the #shitshow that is the Oval Office and the people that control our President.
Maybe Pete can break away into reality if he's ever back on the stump on his own accord. But as of right now, no thanks.
Not sure how anyone could argue against this.
Perhaps I'm biased, but Pete is the only politician I actually will earhole people about. I appreciate Bernie's honesty/sincerity, but like the Democratic party establishment, I also recognize his proposed policies don't stand a chance of becoming law (currently, of course).
He's a devoted Obama acolyte. If I walks like a duck...
I like a steady Captain manning the ship's wheel. Also, and I'm not trying to be condescending, but the Democrats would do well to pay attention to the voices they don't hear on the internet, because the majority of the country exists in the middle, policy-wise. I think the leadership of the party knows that, hence the undermining of Bernie and the non-Biden, moderate-ish candidates dropping out of the race right before Super Tuesday in order to consolidate support behind Biden. Granted, Biden's not the best, but Trump was infinitely worse. This is our system.
Completely agree. Bernie was leading the primary just before Super Tuesday and rich fucks and political influencers couldn't let that happen, that's exactly why they all jumped out and out of nowhere Biden's broke campaign fund grew tremendously.
Bernie was never winning crap either way
You would have voted for him in the general for the same reason I voted for Biden.
Yes, but the main difference is Bernie would have lost
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check out the coach flying flex from our guy Pete!
https://twitter.com/SecretaryPete/status/1558202991852879876
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A true man of the people
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Second row of econ+! A truly terrible seat, I'm going to assume this was a same day booking on a nearly full flight. That's worse than the row behind an exit row.
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Also we legitimately shouldn't have the Secretary of Transportation out here flying like Stan from Salina on a business trip to Milwaukee.
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Also we legitimately shouldn't have the Secretary of Transportation out here flying like Stan from Salina on a business trip to Milwaukee.
You son of a bitch, Salina is getting a whataburger.
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:frown:
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I wonder if he's cashing in some miles from his recent cancellation
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I am once again endorsing Pete as my guy. Sadly, he doesn't stand a chance.
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He’s a light weight Derp.
Goodness.
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#zapped
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I wasn't really sure where to put this?
https://apnews.com/article/flight-delays-us-faa-updates-5805d15f520de8eadf52abb7b170487f (https://apnews.com/article/flight-delays-us-faa-updates-5805d15f520de8eadf52abb7b170487f)
I mean it's hardly a story and I'm sure he was all over it when it happened and was helping with the situation this morning? If not then he'll do it when he gets back from vacation.
He's been incredibly good at his job and will be deserving to be on the ticket in 24' in some capacity.
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Just ride your bike like Pete does (fleet of Suburbans sold separately)
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I wasn't really sure where to put this?
https://apnews.com/article/flight-delays-us-faa-updates-5805d15f520de8eadf52abb7b170487f (https://apnews.com/article/flight-delays-us-faa-updates-5805d15f520de8eadf52abb7b170487f)
I mean it's hardly a story and I'm sure he was all over it when it happened and was helping with the situation this morning? If not then he'll do it when he gets back from vacation.
He's been incredibly good at his job and will be deserving to be on the ticket in 24' in some capacity.
chalk this up as Russia's big revenge on us I guess
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I don't understand people who believe government actually has anything at all to do with crap like that.
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I don't understand people who believe government actually has anything at all to do with crap like that.
There's a reason why you have never once heard anything about a secretary of transportation until Pete
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So the FAA doesn't have anything to do with the government?
Interesting
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The FAA doesn't have anything to do with a whole bunch of Southwest flights getting cancelled.
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The FAA doesn't have anything to do with a whole bunch of Southwest flights getting cancelled.
Correct but that was a precursor to ALL flights getting cancelled the last couple of days.
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The latest issue had nothing to do with SWA's platforms and everything to do with the FAA NOTAM's platform.
So I don't know why on 12/11/23 SWA keeps coming up. All smart people can differentiate between the two situations.
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I’m super pissed about Pete’s coding error that caused the glitch in the NOTAM system.
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I’m super pissed about Pete’s coding error that caused the glitch in the NOTAM system.
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Well it should make you feel better that he's all over this! I saw an interview with him last night and even he doesn't understand only a handful of people having access to coding that caused such a shutdown. He's looking into new protocols (30 year old system) which most assuredly will be in place in years. You don't want to screw with this guys private flights! :blank: (ftp://:blank:)
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some of the anti-buttigieg transportation complaints are pretty transparent and dumb but the faa issue is clearly within his purview and it's a legit complaint, even if causes obviously predated his arrival.
more importantly, afaik, he's done nothing to address america's out of this world cost issues with infrastructure construction. anyone looking to build a case for him as a highly efficient and effective bureaucrat is (so far) not getting much of a case from his time at transportation.
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We're in charge . . . but not responsible for anything (#blueanon)
#rideyourbike
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you know what I DON'T see in this photo of the Hudson river helicopter crash? Pete "Mayor Pete" Pete Buttigieg
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Owned the bluanons tho
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https://x.com/chyeaok/status/1915587357572727101
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I hate that Pete grew that beard, because I hate that that guy gets to make a legit point about how shitty that "beard" looks on him.
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I honestly wouldn't have noticed it if they didn't bring attention to it. but now that you say that he has intense kendall roy vibes with it but for some reason less so without it.
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actually now that I process that he has intense Kendall Roy vibes without it too and I have no idea why a beard (which kendall never had) made me think it. A Pete/Dimon ticket would honestly be the single greatest thing this country could ever accomplish and FOLKS.....let's fuckin' do it.
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maybe the beard just makes him act more kendall'y. I don't know. my brain works at a speed none of us can keep up with (least of all you dipshits).
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His beard kinda has that Petyr Baelish vibe (derogatory)
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while society sits here digesting my on point Kendall Roy takes you drop some person in none of us haver ever heard of (OR CARE TO). nice move BAC. well thought out there.
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:bwpopcorn: and then :bang: :curse:
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Dimon sucks and is old. Love Pete though.
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Dimon sucks and is old. Love Pete though.
LOVE BOTH
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Steve dave being oblivious to pop culture is never not funny to me.
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