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Title: It's time
Post by: CHONGS on November 24, 2018, 09:36:44 PM
You couldn't get a clearer sign.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: catastrophe on November 24, 2018, 09:38:26 PM
Co-signed
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: Brock Landers on November 24, 2018, 09:41:41 PM
Yes.  Thank you for everything Bill but it is time to move on.  And take the Powercat with you.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: TaqMan on November 24, 2018, 09:48:50 PM
Yes.  Thank you for everything Bill but it is time to move on.  And take the Powercat with you.


eff your mouth. I have too much Powercat gear in my closet to go to waste. It's obscure enough here on the east coast the way it is. Most people think it's a high school sig. Give me something to represent from the glory days.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: wetwillie on November 24, 2018, 09:52:01 PM
He went out like a bitch.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: Trim on November 24, 2018, 09:55:14 PM
Yes.  Thank you for everything Bill but it is time to move on.  And take the Powercat with you.


eff your mouth. I have too much Powercat gear in my closet to go to waste. It's obscure enough here on the east coast the way it is. Most people think it's a high school sig. Give me something to represent from the glory days.

It'll be vintage cool.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 24, 2018, 10:02:48 PM
Yes.  Thank you for everything Bill but it is time to move on.  And take the Powercat with you.

Dear God yes. People from around the country LOL their faces off at the powercat. (At both its dumb name and its super weird look.)
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: goCats101 on November 24, 2018, 10:04:04 PM
Not even goEMAWing here, but if Bill is back next season honestly I'll be more interested in how KU's season shakes out. Our program has one trajectory right now and building toward nothing.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: Brock Landers on November 24, 2018, 10:04:24 PM
Yes.  Thank you for everything Bill but it is time to move on.  And take the Powercat with you.


eff your mouth. I have too much Powercat gear in my closet to go to waste. It's obscure enough here on the east coast the way it is. Most people think it's a high school sig. Give me something to represent from the glory days.

It'll be vintage cool.

Exactly.  In about 5 years you'd have some sweet retro throwback vintage gear to rock.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: SteelCat on November 24, 2018, 10:17:44 PM
You must run into different people than I do.  I have traveled all over the US and always hear great things about the KSU logo! 

I would not touch it other than have some variations in color schemes in the uniforms.

As far as coach, I agree it is time but will respect the man and his decision as he has earned it. 

I felt it was time personally to retire after we beat A&M in the bowl game, but I also remember KSU football prior to Snyder and the Prince debacle.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: DaBigTrain on November 24, 2018, 10:37:27 PM
:Chirp:

https://twitter.com/ericnscottsdale/status/1066538198875148288
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: CHONGS on November 24, 2018, 10:41:47 PM
He didn't @ goEMAW :dubious:
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: sys on November 24, 2018, 10:48:34 PM
come home, sean.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 24, 2018, 11:15:31 PM
You must run into different people than I do.  I have traveled all over the US and always hear great things about the KSU logo! 

lol, no you haven't. if anything, people confused it for the iowa hawkeyes logo. I don't hate the powercat, but I do at least recognize that it is lawl.


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I felt it was time personally to retire after we beat A&M in the bowl game, but I also remember KSU football prior to Snyder and the Prince debacle.

ugh, you're one of those? Yes, we get it. We used to be bad. But we've been good for over 25 years. That's a quarter century. We can stop weighing ourselves against the Ellis Rainsberger days.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: Big Sam on November 24, 2018, 11:20:01 PM
You must run into different people than I do.  I have traveled all over the US and always hear great things about the KSU logo! 

I would not touch it other than have some variations in color schemes in the uniforms.


Bring Back Tan Tom Teal!  :ksu:
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: hemmy on November 24, 2018, 11:29:16 PM
The powercat is fine. gE.c gonna gE.c
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 25, 2018, 12:24:01 AM
Yeah honestly it's like 29th on my list of concerns or things we should even be talking about. Numbers 1-28 are BRENT.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: SteelCat on November 25, 2018, 07:16:20 AM
Oh Skinny Benny, are you a LHC Bill Snyder hater? 

And yes, I have never heard a bad comment about the Wildcat logo...other than from Nebraska and KU fans.  I wear it proudly and it is recognizable from coast to coast. 

Do all people have any idea where K-State is ...no.  Do they all care about Big 12 football...no.  Hell, many don't even know where Kansas is on the map. The majority do recognize and respect what Bill has done at K-State.

Anyway, I hope you are as successful in what you do as HCBS is at what he does.

Go Cats!
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: slackcat on November 25, 2018, 07:52:46 AM
tuck gonna' tuck
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: westernautosign on November 25, 2018, 08:12:51 AM
This is gonna be messy.

KK on the radio the other day “I don’t even care what’s best for K State. I wants what’s best for HCBS.”

Cripes.


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Title: Re: It's time
Post by: stunted on November 25, 2018, 08:57:53 AM
hope it gets messy :bwpopcorn:
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: OK_Cat on November 25, 2018, 10:20:01 AM
It’s so absurd that people think that OBz can stay as long as he wants. Such a losery white midwesterny thing.


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Title: Re: It's time
Post by: Trim on November 25, 2018, 10:31:30 AM
Sometimes it’s thought that prospective coaches are sensitive to how prior coaches were treated. Here, perhaps it would be beneficial to fire Snyder against his will to demonstrate we’re not a complete circus.

Fire Snyder. Cut the head off. Let Dabo know that football will be his own operation with no interference from anyone.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: westernautosign on November 25, 2018, 10:33:45 AM
It’s so absurd that people think that OBz can stay as long as he wants. Such a losery white midwesterny thing.


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Title: Re: It's time
Post by: MakeItRain on November 25, 2018, 10:40:23 AM
I've been all around the world, hell I've lived in 7 different states since graduating and 4 different states since gE started and the only time I've a negative word about the powercat is in this thread. I've never even seen or heard shitty ass Iowa State fans say anything about the powercat.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: Trim on November 25, 2018, 10:46:00 AM
I've been all around the world, hell I've lived in 7 different states since graduating and 4 different states since gE started and the only time I've a negative word about the powercat is in this thread. I've never even seen or heard shitty ass Iowa State fans say anything about the powercat.

It’s happening now because the powercat is 100 percent tied to its creator, LHCBS.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 25, 2018, 10:50:43 AM
Hating the Powercat is such a predictable gE thing.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: michigancat on November 25, 2018, 10:55:40 AM
I've been all around the world, hell I've lived in 7 different states since graduating and 4 different states since gE started and the only time I've a negative word about the powercat is in this thread. I've never even seen or heard shitty ass Iowa State fans say anything about the powercat.
I mean it is very 90's. But really, most team logos suck. Like, Texas is alright and that's about it.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: star seed 7 on November 25, 2018, 10:56:59 AM
I like the powercat  :Carl:
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: catastrophe on November 25, 2018, 10:59:20 AM
Hating the Powercat is such a predictable gE thing.

100% accurate
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: MakeItRain on November 25, 2018, 11:09:42 AM
Hating the Powercat is such a predictable gE thing.

100% accurate

We're really only talking about skin ben here and we know he's particular, it's his thing, it's all good
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: catastrophe on November 25, 2018, 11:30:15 AM
The longer we go without a Bill announcement the more nervous I become.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: KCFDcat on November 25, 2018, 11:56:12 AM
Bill is absolutely going to be the head coach of KSU cats football in 2019.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: wetwillie on November 25, 2018, 12:02:52 PM
Bill is absolutely going to be the head coach of KSU cats football in 2019.

You don’t know crap
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: Steffy08 on November 25, 2018, 12:04:20 PM
The longer we go without a Bill announcement the more nervous I become.

In addition to wanting to see Snyder go out on a positive note, seeing him come back and mush all the morons on this board would be awesome.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: KCFDcat on November 25, 2018, 12:07:37 PM
Bill is absolutely going to be the head coach of KSU cats football in 2019.

You don’t know crap
Accurate
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: catastrophe on November 25, 2018, 12:09:51 PM
The longer we go without a Bill announcement the more nervous I become.

In addition to wanting to see Snyder go out on a positive note, seeing him come back and mush all the morons on this board would be awesome.

Would take
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: michigancat on November 25, 2018, 12:35:29 PM
Meh if he doesn't leave quick just keep him and we'll end up with basically the same batch of mediocre candidates we'd fight for this year.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: CHONGS on November 25, 2018, 12:44:30 PM
Meh if he doesn't leave quick just keep him and we'll end up with basically the same batch of mediocre candidates we'd fight for this year.
If the choice was keep Bill or hire some no-name dope, I'd rather keep Bill.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: wetwillie on November 25, 2018, 12:46:49 PM
we need better recruits and no name dope has a greater than 0 percent chance of accomplishing that
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: michigancat on November 25, 2018, 12:47:25 PM


Meh if he doesn't leave quick just keep him and we'll end up with basically the same batch of mediocre candidates we'd fight for this year.
If the choice was keep Bill or hire some no-name dope, I'd rather keep Bill.

BV is the only non-no-name dope we'd choose from imo. And he's not a "sure thing".
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: michigancat on November 25, 2018, 12:49:00 PM
we need better recruits and no name dope has a greater than 0 percent chance of accomplishing that
Fair
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: CHONGS on November 25, 2018, 12:51:36 PM




Meh if he doesn't leave quick just keep him and we'll end up with basically the same batch of mediocre candidates we'd fight for this year.
If the choice was keep Bill or hire some no-name dope, I'd rather keep Bill.

BV is the only non-no-name dope we'd choose from imo. And he's not a "sure thing".

I don't need a sure-thing, just a not a no-name dope who's never accomplished anything.

 I personally consider the UNT guy a dope.  I mean he's never beaten a single great team or even good team yet.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: Pete on November 25, 2018, 12:58:51 PM




Meh if he doesn't leave quick just keep him and we'll end up with basically the same batch of mediocre candidates we'd fight for this year.
If the choice was keep Bill or hire some no-name dope, I'd rather keep Bill.

BV is the only non-no-name dope we'd choose from imo. And he's not a "sure thing".

I don't need a sure-thing, just a not a no-name dope who's never accomplished anything.

 I personally consider the UNT guy a dope.  I mean he's never beaten a single great team or even good team yet.

Agreed. Did the UNT guy recruit the players that he's been "winning" with? 
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: michigancat on November 25, 2018, 01:29:19 PM




Meh if he doesn't leave quick just keep him and we'll end up with basically the same batch of mediocre candidates we'd fight for this year.
If the choice was keep Bill or hire some no-name dope, I'd rather keep Bill.

BV is the only non-no-name dope we'd choose from imo. And he's not a "sure thing".

I don't need a sure-thing, just a not a no-name dope who's never accomplished anything.

 I personally consider the UNT guy a dope.  I mean he's never beaten a single great team or even good team yet.

Agreed. Did the UNT guy recruit the players that he's been "winning" with?
I don't disagree, but he'll be in the mix for Tech and UNC, just like Brent
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: pissclams on November 25, 2018, 01:30:12 PM
Meh if he doesn't leave quick just keep him and we'll end up with basically the same batch of mediocre candidates we'd fight for this year.
If the choice was keep Bill or hire some no-name dope, I'd rather keep Bill.

screw that, i want the coaching search.  and the upside to hiring a no-name dope is that more than likely we end up with another coaching search in a few years.  two for one!!
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: michigancat on November 25, 2018, 01:31:37 PM




Meh if he doesn't leave quick just keep him and we'll end up with basically the same batch of mediocre candidates we'd fight for this year.
If the choice was keep Bill or hire some no-name dope, I'd rather keep Bill.

BV is the only non-no-name dope we'd choose from imo. And he's not a "sure thing".

I don't need a sure-thing, just a not a no-name dope who's never accomplished anything.

 I personally consider the UNT guy a dope.  I mean he's never beaten a single great team or even good team yet.
Like Les Miles?
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: kearneymen on November 25, 2018, 01:34:44 PM




Meh if he doesn't leave quick just keep him and we'll end up with basically the same batch of mediocre candidates we'd fight for this year.
If the choice was keep Bill or hire some no-name dope, I'd rather keep Bill.

BV is the only non-no-name dope we'd choose from imo. And he's not a "sure thing".

I don't need a sure-thing, just a not a no-name dope who's never accomplished anything.

 I personally consider the UNT guy a dope.  I mean he's never beaten a single great team or even good team yet.

Agreed. Did the UNT guy recruit the players that he's been "winning" with?


I watched parts of a few UNT games out of curiosity and to answer your question “yes” most of the skill position players were juniors and sophomores (his recruits), I don’t know about the lineman. 


Of the smaller college coaches it seems like LittreLL and Norvell are thought to be the top tier and then a muddy second tier of Fickell (Cincinnati), Clark (UAB), Collins (Temple), Wells (Utah State) and Monken (Army) are randomly thrown together in varying order...  I agree with several on here that you throw everything possible at Venables.  If he says “no” keep asking and offering.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 25, 2018, 01:44:34 PM
Hating the Powercat is such a predictable gE thing.

100% accurate

We're really only talking about skin ben here and we know he's particular, it's his thing, it's all good


I mean another poster brought it up in the first place :dunno:

It's a fine logo. Weird, but fine. Extremely 90's, though, and the name "Powercat" is extremely lol. As I mentioned earlier, it barely registers on the list of things I care about fixing. I do know that one of my buds who grew up in Manhattan and went to college at Kats U. thought for decades that the ear of the powercat was its eye. You have to admit that it's pretty confusing from a graphic design standpoint...to wit:
--previous ear/eye anecdote
--the fact that almost no one can draw it
--when tucks paint it on their garage without a stencil, it looks like crap 100% of the time
--sometimes people broadcasting our games use backwards powercats, which is super lol
--also when they made the field that we had at BSFS from like 2002-2009, the middle swoopy stripe on the midfield powercat was way thinner than its counterpart on our helmets.
 
Also, @WonderMeal can tell you a story about his buds in New York and their reaction to it.

Mainly for me it's like, if we keep it, fine. If we change it, that'd be cool too because it would help our fanbase psychologically cut the head off, which we absolutely need. At minimum a uniform change would jazz it up and make it less 90s-y.


Title: Re: It's time
Post by: CHONGS on November 25, 2018, 01:50:39 PM






Meh if he doesn't leave quick just keep him and we'll end up with basically the same batch of mediocre candidates we'd fight for this year.
If the choice was keep Bill or hire some no-name dope, I'd rather keep Bill.

BV is the only non-no-name dope we'd choose from imo. And he's not a "sure thing".

I don't need a sure-thing, just a not a no-name dope who's never accomplished anything.

 I personally consider the UNT guy a dope.  I mean he's never beaten a single great team or even good team yet.
Like Les Miles?

I think he was great hire for KU.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: Pete on November 25, 2018, 01:51:03 PM
Meh if he doesn't leave quick just keep him and we'll end up with basically the same batch of mediocre candidates we'd fight for this year.
If the choice was keep Bill or hire some no-name dope, I'd rather keep Bill.

screw that, i want the coaching search.  and the upside to hiring a no-name dope is that more than likely we end up with another coaching search in a few years.  two for one!!

Fair point
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: CHONGS on November 25, 2018, 01:51:38 PM
241 is nice
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: emawbin on November 25, 2018, 01:56:06 PM
It's simple right? Cut off the head. The powercat is such a great metaphor for the head that should be gone, although I can't help but feel we've got a Hydra on our hands. A Snyder Hydra. Cut one head off two more follow. Been a while since I posted so Emaw and such
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 25, 2018, 01:58:19 PM
It's simple right? Cut off the head. The powercat is such a great metaphor for the head that should be gone, although I can't help but feel we've got a Hydra on our hands. A Snyder Hydra. Cut one head off two more follow. Been a while since I posted so Emaw and such

WISE sixth post. :users:

Doesn't matter anyway, because I just got a call from someone very ITK who told me that regardless of whether or not Snyder's here next year, we're downplaying the powercat and modifying the helmets to feature this badboy.

(https://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r312/shaggsCD/Wildcatheadthirdgradedrawing.jpg)
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: michigancat on November 25, 2018, 02:05:06 PM






Meh if he doesn't leave quick just keep him and we'll end up with basically the same batch of mediocre candidates we'd fight for this year.
If the choice was keep Bill or hire some no-name dope, I'd rather keep Bill.

BV is the only non-no-name dope we'd choose from imo. And he's not a "sure thing".

I don't need a sure-thing, just a not a no-name dope who's never accomplished anything.

 I personally consider the UNT guy a dope.  I mean he's never beaten a single great team or even good team yet.
Like Les Miles?

I think he was great hire for KU.
Was a good case for firing a coach early
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: KST8FAN on November 25, 2018, 03:11:09 PM
It's simple right? Cut off the head. The powercat is such a great metaphor for the head that should be gone, although I can't help but feel we've got a Hydra on our hands. A Snyder Hydra. Cut one head off two more follow. Been a while since I posted so Emaw and such

WISE sixth post. :users:

Doesn't matter anyway, because I just got a call from someone very ITK who told me that regardless of whether or not Snyder's here next year, we're downplaying the powercat and modifying the helmets to feature this badboy.

(https://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r312/shaggsCD/Wildcatheadthirdgradedrawing.jpg)
Powercat to Pacmancat?

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Title: Re: It's time
Post by: slackcat on November 25, 2018, 03:48:49 PM
I could see a helmet designed like that  :ksu:
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: Steffy08 on November 25, 2018, 08:06:27 PM
Yesterday marked the 30th anniversary of us hiring LHC Bill Snyder.
November 24, 1988.

Yesterday marked the 10 anniversary of us hiring LHC Bill Snyder the second time.
November 24, 2008.

Wow. 
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: Trim on November 25, 2018, 08:29:20 PM
And now November 24 will always be remembered as the date LHC Bill Snyder lost to Iowa State.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: Steffy08 on November 25, 2018, 08:45:32 PM
Yesterday marked the 30th anniversary of us hiring LHC LHC Bill Snyder.
November 24, 1988.

Yesterday marked the 10 anniversary of us hiring LHC LHC Bill Snyder the second time.
November 24, 2008.

Wow.

Ronald Reagan was still president when Snyder was hired the first time.
Holy hell.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: GoodForAnother on November 25, 2018, 09:06:31 PM
Yesterday marked the 30th anniversary of us hiring LHC LHC Bill Snyder.
November 24, 1988.

Yesterday marked the 10 anniversary of us hiring LHC LHC Bill Snyder the second time.
November 24, 2008.

Wow.

Ronald Reagan was still president when Snyder was hired the first time.
Holy hell.

So basically nothing’s changed
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: goCats101 on November 26, 2018, 07:54:23 PM
Hating the Powercat is such a predictable gE thing.

100% accurate

We're really only talking about skin ben here and we know he's particular, it's his thing, it's all good


I mean another poster brought it up in the first place :dunno:

It's a fine logo. Weird, but fine. Extremely 90's, though, and the name "Powercat" is extremely lol. As I mentioned earlier, it barely registers on the list of things I care about fixing. I do know that one of my buds who grew up in Manhattan and went to college at Kats U. thought for decades that the ear of the powercat was its eye. You have to admit that it's pretty confusing from a graphic design standpoint...to wit:
--previous ear/eye anecdote
--the fact that almost no one can draw it
--when tucks paint it on their garage without a stencil, it looks like crap 100% of the time
--sometimes people broadcasting our games use backwards powercats, which is super lol
--also when they made the field that we had at BSFS from like 2002-2009, the middle swoopy stripe on the midfield powercat was way thinner than its counterpart on our helmets.
 
Also, @WonderMeal can tell you a story about his buds in New York and their reaction to it.

Mainly for me it's like, if we keep it, fine. If we change it, that'd be cool too because it would help our fanbase psychologically cut the head off, which we absolutely need. At minimum a uniform change would jazz it up and make it less 90s-y.

SkinnyBenny that eye/ear story really resonates with me. In 7th grade it hit me like a ton of bricks all of a sudden what I was looking at (for me it was the eye/mouth). That being said, I personally like the logo but open to change.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: Katpappy on November 26, 2018, 07:55:39 PM
Commitment...
Coach, you signed on and committed to K-State when many would not. You stayed, after achieving success, when many would have chased other jobs and more $. You retired, came back and committed, yet again. You raised school, players, coaches and community to a new standard and expectation for success, doing things the right way. You have more than delivered on your commitment to university and people that gave you the job. Last year, university determined in best interests to make a commitment to you for another five years. I believe people should honor their comittments, learning from you. I encourage you to stay, asking KSU leaders to honor their words and contract terms. You go on your terms. If they do not and choose to release you, I will be very disappointed in my university, current leaders and influencers. Thanks Coach, for your strong convictions, commitment and contributions. Class of 1974.

Wendy Williams Mottas:  Completely disagree. He needs to go and it needs to be announced this week so we can get in on prime picks for a younger, different view of our program. We should be winning championships, not accepting mediocrity


Tuck gonna tuck; oh wait, their opinions are like of GE.   :ROFL:
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: wetwillie on November 26, 2018, 08:02:44 PM
My dad was in that class and they sure as crap don’t speak for him
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: Katpappy on November 26, 2018, 08:45:36 PM
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 Why do people act like there is anything more important than winning? Nothing is more important at Alabama, USC, Ohio State and that may be why they are in the hunt for a championship most years. Yeah we’re not them but that doesn’t mean we should accept mediocrity and as of late worse.
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Billie Bob Winning is what people do every day,you apply for a job with five others & you see who wins,do you play a game of cards to lose if you do don’t ever go to Vegas you my friend will be walking home.
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Nick Fuemmeler Vince Lombardi said "Winning isn't everything, its the only thing." But he went on to talk about winning the right way. Bill has always done it the right way and I think most Cat fans appreciate that as much as the wins themselves. Maybe it is time for Bill to retire. That's not my call. I just hope that the next guy in line is another culture builder who will continue to make us proud. Not just of the wins, but of the young men the program produces and graduates. If we have to hire a crook to win... I for one would rather be a .500 team every year. Just one mans opinion. I know there are plenty of people who would gladly look the other way for a shot at a national championship.
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Rob Wells This is why we can’t have nice things. Fans admittedly willing to accept mediocrity. You would never hear this at Alabama or USC and that’s why they’ve got more national championships than we have big 12 north championships.
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Nick Fuemmeler Rob Wells because I want to win the right way? I don't like losing either. But I appreciate the fact that we have had a solid program not shrouded with controversy. And I don't know if you have toured the Vanier complex but we have a hell of a lot of nice things. As far as "accepting mediocrity" I guess integrity means more to me than trophies. I won't apologize for that. You must be one of those guys who would gladly look the other way. I guarantee that crap happens at Alabama and USC and people look the other way.
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Cindy Biehler Rob Wells shame on you!
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Cindy Biehler Nick Fuemmeler you are WISE BEYOND YOUR YEARS Nick! What you said is SPOT ON!
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Nick Fuemmeler Cindy Biehler thank you.
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Title: Re: It's time
Post by: bucket on November 26, 2018, 10:28:47 PM
Nick and Cindy should just bang already
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 26, 2018, 10:48:11 PM
Yeah, Nick’s most definitely gonna Fummeler.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: grainer on November 26, 2018, 10:50:56 PM
The viewpoint that dissenting opinions are invalid simply because there should be no questioning of a coach (or leader) are dangerous. No matter how great they have been...no one should ever be above reproach.


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Title: Re: It's time
Post by: meow meow on November 27, 2018, 08:34:50 AM
Yeah, Nick’s most definitely gonna Fummeler.

 :lol:
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: meow meow on November 27, 2018, 08:35:48 AM
Fummeler, I just met her on this here internet thread!
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 27, 2018, 08:55:38 AM
The viewpoint that dissenting opinions are invalid simply because there should be no questioning of a coach (or leader) are dangerous. No matter how great they have been...no one should ever be above reproach.


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I've been watching this great series on North Korea. There's a lot to be said for gerontocracy, never questioning your leaders and keeping things in the family at all costs.

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Title: Re: It's time
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 27, 2018, 09:22:57 AM
Mean Gene says a decision will be made by the end of the week, maybe even Wednesday.   :billdance:

https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article222224060.html
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: POWL on November 27, 2018, 11:03:58 AM
Mean Gene says a decision will be made by the end of the week, maybe even Wednesday.   :billdance:

https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article222224060.html
trying not to overthink this........if he was staying, why wouldn't Gene have said so by now? ........Bill ask for a few days to "take care of some things" ........i read that as, he wants to inform people close to him and get out in front of this before the media leaks.........we should have a change by Friday  :runaway:
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: ChiComCat on November 27, 2018, 11:08:45 AM
If we can get it done by Monday, I think we're still in good shape.  The only coaches getting hired now are ones that are desperate for any opportunity.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 27, 2018, 11:10:43 AM
Mean Gene says a decision will be made by the end of the week, maybe even Wednesday.   :billdance:

https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article222224060.html
trying not to overthink this........if he was staying, why wouldn't Gene have said so by now? ........Bill ask for a few days to "take care of some things" ........i read that as, he wants to inform people close to him and get out in front of this before the media leaks.........we should have a change by Friday  :runaway:

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For now, though, Taylor is leaving the choice to his Hall of Fame coach, who has won 215 games, been to 19 bowls, claimed two conference championships and turned a once-moribund program into a consistent winner since arriving at K-State in 1989.

“He deserves a lot of leeway in this decision, based on what he has done and what he means to the program,” Taylor said. “At the end of the day, it is myself and president (Richard) Myers (making the decision). We need to decide what is best for our football program. If it is him staying, then great. If it’s not, then we will have to work through that. But he gets a lot of leeway. I think people lose sight of that and forget what all he does. Right, wrong or indifferent, even if people disagree with it, I think he deserves a lot of leeway in this process.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: POWL on November 27, 2018, 11:14:58 AM
so it boils down to this:

-if Bill says he wants to stay, does Gene have what it takes to tell him "that is not an option at this point"
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 27, 2018, 11:17:45 AM
If Bill wants to stay, they are going to let him stay.   :th_twocents:
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: POWL on November 27, 2018, 11:24:29 AM
If Bill wants to stay, they are going to let him stay.   :th_twocents:
this is where it gets tricky.......Gene knows that this moment is a reflection on him, it's his baby now........if Bill tanks, along with ticket revenue, then he looks bad........in other words, does he listen to the donors or the coach........Bill has held this program hostage long enough..........are you Gene, or MEAN GENE !
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 27, 2018, 11:38:05 AM
Mean Gene says a decision will be made by the end of the week, maybe even Wednesday.   :billdance:

https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article222224060.html
trying not to overthink this........if he was staying, why wouldn't Gene have said so by now? ........Bill ask for a few days to "take care of some things" ........i read that as, he wants to inform people close to him and get out in front of this before the media leaks.........we should have a change by Friday  :runaway:

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For now, though, Taylor is leaving the choice to his Hall of Fame coach, who has won 215 games, been to 19 bowls, claimed two conference championships and turned a once-moribund program into a consistent winner since arriving at K-State in 1989.

“He deserves a lot of leeway in this decision, based on what he has done and what he means to the program,” Taylor said. “At the end of the day, it is myself and president (Richard) Myers (making the decision). We need to decide what is best for our football program. If it is him staying, then great. If it’s not, then we will have to work through that. But he gets a lot of leeway. I think people lose sight of that and forget what all he does. Right, wrong or indifferent, even if people disagree with it, I think he deserves a lot of leeway in this process.

I basically read that as we are giving him the chance to do the right thing, but if we decide that enough boosters have called then we will force his hand.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: POWL on November 27, 2018, 12:00:35 PM
I know there were multiple factors in Currie leaving, but certainly one was, he could not control Bill in almost every capacity........to the point that he felt he had a coach that was unfireable.......which makes AD's real uncomfortable
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: catastrophe on November 27, 2018, 12:12:09 PM
In that article at least, Gene walks the line as well as he can. He doesn’t say that firing Bill is out of the question, but he says he’s earned a lot of leeway. Personally I think Gene’s gonna go with whatever Bill says this week, but if Bill is coming back, I’d expect Gene to say if we’re not at 5 wins by November next year, I’m announcing your retirement for you.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: POWL on November 27, 2018, 12:19:37 PM
In that article at least, Gene walks the line as well as he can. He doesn’t say that firing Bill is out of the question, but he says he’s earned a lot of leeway. Personally, I think Gene’s gonna go with whatever Bill says this week, but if Bill is coming back, I’d expect Gene to say if we’re not at 5 wins by November next year, I’m announcing your retirement for you.
under this scenario, Gene would have to be comfortable with the downside of letting your biggest revenue sport fall below the poverty line.........if I were in Gene's position, there is no way I let that prospect happen on my watch
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: wetwillie on November 27, 2018, 12:29:10 PM
People talking about Gene as if this isn’t his last gig before retiring are adorable. 
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: pissclams on November 27, 2018, 12:35:09 PM
yeah gene doesn't care how this looks.  he's collecting his key west money now.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: michigancat on November 27, 2018, 12:40:06 PM
so it boils down to this:

-if Bill says he wants to stay, does Gene have what it takes to tell him "that is not an option at this point"

I personally think Gene and Meyers would have no problem canning Snyder, based on my interaction at the Alumni Association happy hour in Charlotte before the NCAA tournament this year where Gene came off as a total redass and Myers came off as a casual murderer of Arabs.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 27, 2018, 02:22:28 PM
Turn it to 810. BITB is bringing Kurtz on soon and leading with Snyder. Clamoring for Leavitt.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: PurpleOil on November 27, 2018, 02:43:35 PM
Turn it to 810. BITB is bring Kurtz on soon and leading with Snyder. Clamoring for Leavitt.

I turned it on just in time to hear the beverage guy talk about how he doesn't really have an opinion one way or the other. Literally, they had a guy call in who delivered soda to Vanier, and they took his call and asked his opinion.

Uhg... next caller said call Bob Stoops but not Venables because Venables "may not know how to do more with less".

I'm out. Done with that worthless radio program.

Title: Re: It's time
Post by: Cire on November 27, 2018, 03:03:11 PM
I don't listen a lot but KK's callers have always been the absolute worst.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: meow meow on November 27, 2018, 03:29:00 PM
Bob really did more with less at have not OU
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 27, 2018, 03:30:49 PM
I don't listen a lot but KK's callers have always been the absolute worst.
I'm convinced they're his buddies.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: Trim on November 27, 2018, 04:25:33 PM
Can his ass right now.  He lost to iowa state and I see that coincidentally haverhill is posting here again.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: ballboy55 on November 27, 2018, 04:40:02 PM
Gene will end up hiring Ron Prince, who will come to his job interview with an even bigger binder this time and even better plans. Then 4 years later, Snyder will come back to calm the waters. Then 10 years later, Prince will come back when the water gets choppy again. This trend will continue with the alternating of Snyder and Prince…and 30 years down the road, when Snyder is rocking out at 109, he’ll still be too stubborn to wear a coat in the first half of a frigid game day.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 27, 2018, 04:43:40 PM
Gene will end up hiring Ron Prince, who will come to his job interview with an even bigger binder this time and even better plans. Then 4 years later, Snyder will come back to calm the waters. Then 10 years later, Prince will come back when the water gets choppy again. This trend will continue with the alternating of Snyder and Prince…and 30 years down the road, when Snyder is rocking out at 109, he’ll still be too stubborn to wear a coat in the first half of a frigid game day.

I'm so out of the loop, no idea Ronald had been the Lions LB coach for 4 years
https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2018/3/6/17083764/insider-firing-ron-prince-will-be-the-biggest-reason-for-lions-rushing-turnaround
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: michigancat on November 27, 2018, 07:22:56 PM
Gene will end up hiring Ron Prince, who will come to his job interview with an even bigger binder this time and even better plans. Then 4 years later, Snyder will come back to calm the waters. Then 10 years later, Prince will come back when the water gets choppy again. This trend will continue with the alternating of Snyder and Prince…and 30 years down the road, when Snyder is rocking out at 109, he’ll still be too stubborn to wear a coat in the first half of a frigid game day.

I'm so out of the loop, no idea Ronald had been the Lions LB coach for 4 years
https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2018/3/6/17083764/insider-firing-ron-prince-will-be-the-biggest-reason-for-lions-rushing-turnaround

I mean, he wasn't the LB coach. But that's a pretty LOL article.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 27, 2018, 07:35:24 PM
Announcement tomorrow
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: 8manpick on November 27, 2018, 07:37:33 PM
I would be so happy if we hired Prince. You can’t even imagine
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: wetwillie on November 27, 2018, 08:10:54 PM
Announcement tomorrow

This is the first person I actually believe ITT
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: schreds21 on November 27, 2018, 08:34:39 PM
I would be so happy if we hired Prince. You can’t even imagine
Why?
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: 8manpick on November 27, 2018, 08:41:13 PM
I would be so happy if we hired Prince. You can’t even imagine
Why?
NFL experience


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Title: Re: It's time
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 27, 2018, 10:09:20 PM
Announcement tomorrow

This is the first person I actually believe ITT

Bill gone
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: 8manpick on November 27, 2018, 10:12:14 PM
Announcement tomorrow

This is the first person I actually believe ITT

Bill gone
Thanks BSEDC
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: MakeItRain on November 27, 2018, 11:22:26 PM
so it boils down to this:

-if Bill says he wants to stay, does Gene have what it takes to tell him "that is not an option at this point"

I personally think Gene and Meyers would have no problem canning Snyder, based on my interaction at the Alumni Association happy hour in Charlotte before the NCAA tournament this year where Gene came off as a total redass and Myers came off as a casual murderer of Arabs.

 :clap:
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: meow meow on November 28, 2018, 08:41:06 AM
today is tomorrow!  :excited:
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 28, 2018, 09:36:00 AM
today is tomorrow!  :excited:
today is yesterday made anew
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: MadCat on November 28, 2018, 09:45:10 AM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/11CGJUWW1TqnHW/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 28, 2018, 09:50:47 AM
today is tomorrow!  :excited:
today is yesterday made anew

Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: PurpleOil on November 28, 2018, 10:02:20 AM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/11CGJUWW1TqnHW/giphy.gif)

Such a great movie.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 28, 2018, 10:09:15 AM
I like the ppl who run KSO, but "their" ppl are kind of annoying on twitter and on the board. They run 8 long pages with BS like "any second now!", "I can't stop hitting F5", "How can I even work today! Let's go BV!", etc. JFC.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: Pete on November 28, 2018, 10:43:42 AM
I think RD must be in a coma or something, because I asked him for updates like every 5 minutes.  Pretty sure he is unemployed and just does those drug trials for Xmas cash, so not really sure what other reason that we aren’t getting timely updates.

Does RD drive a blue Saturn?  Saw one On the side of the road on the Eisenhower memorial highway.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: kso_FAN on November 28, 2018, 10:51:09 AM
I like the ppl who run KSO, but "their" ppl are kind of annoying on twitter and on the board. They run 8 long pages with BS like "any second now!", "I can't stop hitting F5", "How can I even work today! Let's go BV!", etc. JFC.

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/bf6fa962e1bc4df6bf4f4f0d5e5ffc74/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 28, 2018, 10:53:18 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: GoodForAnother on November 28, 2018, 10:57:31 AM
I like the ppl who run KSO, but "their" ppl are kind of annoying on twitter and on the board. They run 8 long pages with BS like "any second now!", "I can't stop hitting F5", "How can I even work today! Let's go BV!", etc. JFC.

The content is good. The board is 90% horrific posters
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: kso_FAN on November 28, 2018, 11:01:53 AM
I like the ppl who run KSO, but "their" ppl are kind of annoying on twitter and on the board. They run 8 long pages with BS like "any second now!", "I can't stop hitting F5", "How can I even work today! Let's go BV!", etc. JFC.

The content is good. The board is 90% horrific posters

(https://media.giphy.com/media/3oEjI2RpAuHJOTBkRi/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: GoodForAnother on November 28, 2018, 11:04:31 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/cu0ocJ6_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: kso_FAN on November 28, 2018, 11:06:36 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/cu0ocJ6_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

:lol:
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 28, 2018, 11:07:08 AM
Would explain a lot, honestly.
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: MakeItRain on November 28, 2018, 12:08:48 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/cu0ocJ6_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

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Title: Re: It's time
Post by: DaBigTrain on November 28, 2018, 12:42:53 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: Pete on November 28, 2018, 12:44:56 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/cu0ocJ6_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

WHO ARE YOU CALLING A HORRIFIC POSTER, BUB!
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: steve dave on November 28, 2018, 12:55:00 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/cu0ocJ6_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

 :lol:
Title: Re: It's time
Post by: GoodForAnother on November 28, 2018, 01:21:52 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/cu0ocJ6_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

WHO ARE YOU CALLING A HORRIFIC POSTER, BUB!

Only 90% bad is a huge improvement. There are some v good posters over there too

Mostly I’m a Matt Hall guy