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Title: Voynich Manuscript
Post by: CHONGS on February 05, 2018, 01:38:53 PM: http://www.voynich.nu

https://archive.org/details/TheVoynichManuscript

:dunno:
Title: Re: Voynich Manuscript
Post by: steve dave on February 05, 2018, 02:03:15 PM: a little kid drew it
Title: Re: Voynich Manuscript
Post by: kso_FAN on February 05, 2018, 02:39:23 PM: Aliens.
Title: Re: Voynich Manuscript
Post by: Joker on February 05, 2018, 02:59:05 PM: An early botanical journal.
Title: Re: Voynich Manuscript
Post by: kso_FAN on February 05, 2018, 03:20:42 PM: Drugs.
Title: Re: Voynich Manuscript
Post by: Catchacold on February 05, 2018, 03:28:07 PM: botanical journal by an alien kid on drugs
Title: Re: Voynich Manuscript
Post by: kso_FAN on February 05, 2018, 03:29:41 PM: Quote from: Catchacold on February 05, 2018, 03:28:07 PM
botanical journal by an alien kid on drugs

I like it.
Title: Re: Voynich Manuscript
Post by: The Big Train on February 05, 2018, 03:41:24 PM: It’s the theory of everything that combines general relativity and quantum mechanics. Very elegant.
Title: Re: Voynich Manuscript
Post by: CHONGS on February 05, 2018, 03:41:36 PM: https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/1/16959454/voynich-manuscript-mystery-ai-decoded-debunked
Title: Re: Voynich Manuscript
Post by: The Big Train on February 06, 2018, 09:07:05 PM: Quote from: Chingon on February 05, 2018, 03:41:36 PM
https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/1/16959454/voynich-manuscript-mystery-ai-decoded-debunked

Hmm...

You would think that 25-30 letters which is maybe standard(?) in most languages? Aside from Chinese(Mandarin) and some others. Comparing it to over 300 languages and looking for frequency of characters would yield something. The article makes a good point that they used todays languages against a manuscript dated to 600 years ago. Kind of how people interpret the bible today based on writing from 2000 years ago, but I won't get into that more here.

Using AI is a good step because you can conduct many lifetimes worth of experiments and comparisons. I do find it interesting that they said it was full of anagrams. Also being a voweless(*) language that they claim it to be allows for so much subjectivity in the final analysis. I also IRL LOL'd when it talked about using Google Translate. I mean, if you are submitting a scientific paper and using Google Translate, I mean come on.

Chings have you put this script through CHaMOY or maybe @mocat could put it through SNOWBRAG? I mean anything could decode this, maybe it's the batheing championship rankings from 1463. Regardless this is very interesting.
Title: Re: Voynich Manuscript
Post by: mocat on February 06, 2018, 09:14:48 PM: Did you see the part where some letters were only used at the beginning and end of words, and some letters were only used in the middle of words? There is apparently no known language like that
Title: Re: Voynich Manuscript
Post by: The Big Train on February 06, 2018, 09:20:17 PM: I didn't look but what was is the frequency of those words? Using some kind of cryptographic hash function could achieve that kind of output. Which could explain why it's be unsolvable to this point.
Title: Re: Voynich Manuscript
Post by: Joker on February 07, 2018, 08:54:36 AM: Have they tried using the machine from The Imitation Game? I mean that thing already saved the world once.