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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: Powercat Posse on January 14, 2018, 12:44:21 AM
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These 4 teams are arguably 5th-8th in B12.
Let's put WV Tech Ou Ku in Tier A
TCU KState Texas Baylor In Tier B
OKSt and ISU Tier C
So if TCU KSU UT and BU can do this to get 9-9...
Go 4-0 vs Tier C
Go 3-3 vs Tier B
go 2-6 vs Tier A
So far....
Vs Tier A =
TCU 0-3 (2 home L)
Ksu 0-3 (2 road L)
Texas 0-1 (home L)
Baylor 0-2 (both road L)
Tier B=
TCU 1-1 (2 road)
Ksu 0-0
Texas 1-1 ( 1 home 1 road)
Baylor 1-1 (2 home)
Tier C=
TCU 0-0
Ksu 2-0 (1 home 1 road)
Texas 1-1 (1 home 1 road)
Baylor 0-1 (1 road)
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I don't think TCU is in a group with these other teams, they've probably had the toughest conference schedule to this point. If you're going to include UT here you should probably throw OSU in. I don't think they're good but it's perfectly within the realm of possibility that they could finish ahead of K-State, UT, and Baylor. Baylor might not win a road game this year.
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very true, Tcu is the best of those 4. I even told FAN that they were clearly 5th on the eye test.
I put them in the mix (with Tier B) because although they have a road win vs Tier B, they are 0-3 with 2 home losses vs Tier A. I'd be shocked if they don't finish 5th or at least 6th....but they got work to do to be in Tier A.
Ku is the only Tier A team that doesn't have a win over a fellow Tier A team, but they do have 2 road Wins over Tier B teams. No Tier A team has lost to a B or C team either.
Ok St at 2-3 should get consideration for Tier B. For now, I'm gonna keep them in Tier C. That could change. Of their next 6 conference games, they get Baylor twice and 3 Tier A teams.
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I hope we do not get wore down and go into a swoon like last year. Texas and Baylor have big post players that will give us fits. I am concerned Weber may lose it after his blow up at the refs and he said he was playing for his job.
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Kstate 4-3 = 1-3 vs Tier A. 1-0 vs Tier B. 2-0 vs Tier C.
Only 4 on last 11 games vs Tier A.
Texas 3-4 = 1-2 vs Tier A. 1-1 vs Tier B. 1-1 vs C.
TCU 2-5 = 0-3 vs Tier A. 1-2 vs Tier B. 1-0 vs C.
Still have 5 games vs Tier A, 3 of those on road.
Baylor 2-5 = 0-3 vs Tier A. 1-1 vs B. 1-1 vs C.
Home loss to B, road loss to C. No big Wins
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Why settle for 5th, when 3rd (at least) is available?
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baylor will beat us, too big in the blocks
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Why settle for 5th, when 3rd (at least) is available?
Absolutely. I think I'm just still doing the math for getting 5th... Because sometimes I get excited, ahead of myself thinking about more.. and then Boom, we have a letdown
A win at Baylor on Monday...and I think we all can start having thoughts like what you just posted
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baylor will beat us, too big in the blocks
Maybe. But outside of the OK St game, Baylor in 6 other league games is putting up 0.95 PPP and 43.1 eFG on offense, plus about -5.0% on TO margain. #ExtremelyBeatable
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Why settle for 5th, when 3rd (at least) is available?
with stokes finally out of the picture, there's no reason not to dream big.
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baylor will beat us, too big in the blocks
Saving for when this post doesn’t age well.
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Why settle for 5th, when 3rd (at least) is available?
with stokes finally out of the picture, there's no reason not to dream big.
This
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A healthy Stokes last night would have made that a much easier game for us. Brown would have been able to rest a little. Brown would not have had to play point guard the entire game. Stokes on ball defense is good enough he could have guarded Robinson some and given Brown a little more rest.
Brown, Stokes and Diarra made a really good rotation at guard and also let us go small more often so Claws get some rest with Mawien playing center.
Very positive development to have Stokes in a couple of weeks and still have a lot of the offense flowing through Claws.
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Other than @WVU and maybe @OU, I dont see a game on the schedule we shouldn't be able to win.
BU x2. Suck
UT x2. Suck
ISU @home. Suck
TTU @home Suddenly suck
Ku @home. Suck
@OSU. Suck
@TCU. Gross
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ou is a suddenly suck
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so you guys think we’re going to continue to lead the league in 2/3 pt fg %
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so you guys think we’re going to continue to lead the league in 2/3 pt fg %
Maybe, maybe not. Likely top 3 though. Leading after nearly 40% of the schedule doesn't seem like a fluke to me.
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I really thought Shaka would completely dominate at Texas, maybe he still will but the early results have been surprising.
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I really thought Shaka would completely dominate at Texas, maybe he still will but the early results have been surprising.
He wasn't really dominant at VCU, but he had nice tournament runs. Never won a conference regular season title in 6 seasons.
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Was your expectation that he would be a middle of the pack team in year 3? They don't seem any better right now than with Barnes. I suppose my expectations were too high initially.
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he gets out coached on a regular basis and is in over his head when it comes to the coaching part of coaching
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so you guys think we’re going to continue to lead the league in 2/3 pt fg %
Maybe, maybe not. Likely top 3 though. Leading after nearly 40% of the schedule doesn't seem like a fluke to me.
17|18: .488, .372
16|17: .461, .362
15|16: .429, .300
14|15: .433, .335
13|14: .434, .331
12|13: .436, .362
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oscar's teams seem to have stamina issues.
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^you say this after barry played 40 and wade 39?
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^you say this after barry played 40 and wade 39?
Look at the annual stats. The % falls per those posted
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Was your expectation that he would be a middle of the pack team in year 3? They don't seem any better right now than with Barnes. I suppose my expectations were too high initially.
He lost his leading scorer though. I don't understand why he hasn't installed havoc.
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I glanced at our game logs. We have been extremely consistent on 2pt FG%.
Over the last 16 games, I believe we have had only 1 game under 52.9% on 2pt. That was vs WV (10-30 that game) That cost us a chance to win.
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I glanced at our game logs. We have been extremely consistent on 2pt FG%.
Over the last 16 games, I believe we have had only 1 game under 52.9% on 2pt. That was vs WV (10-30 that game) That cost us a chance to win.
Yes, and we face another Big 12 team that protects the rim very well. Baylor leads in 2PT% defense and is 2nd in block%, this will be a key to watch tonight.
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I think 9 wins in conference and a win vs Georgia gets us in. This is doable.
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#bubblelife
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Ku or Tech probably gonna win the league. Cats still have a shot to get 3rd or Tie for 3rd.
WVU--
Ok St
TCU
At KU
At Baylor
Iowa St
Texas Tech
At Texas
KState --
Texas Tech
At Ok St
Iowa St
Texas
At OU
At TCu
Baylor
Ou --
At Iowa St
At Texas Tech
Texas
At Ku
KState
At Baylor
Iowa St
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Here is Texas & Tcu schedule. Best finish is likely 5th for either one of these
Texas --
At TCU
Baylor
At OU
At Kstate
Ok St
At KU
WV
TCU --
Texas
At WVU
Ok St
At Isu
Baylor
KState
At Texas Tech