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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: Mike from Ft. Collins on August 27, 2017, 02:33:51 PM
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Even once every 3rd year?
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$$$$$
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Better for local Manhattan economy and A.D.'s office revenue wise to keep it in Manhattan. Also, a large portion of KSU fans come from far west, and would not make the trip.
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Arrowhead is gross.
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Neutral site games are for losers
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We've spent hundreds of millions of dollars in the last 4 years improving our stadium... Why would we want to reduce the number of games we play in it?
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Mike stop being an idiot.
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Tried but couldn't find a worthy opponent
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It's in Missouri.
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Keep those dollars in Manhattan.
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Both CU and CSU each make $1-1.5 million for each game played in Denver. It also gives each school an extra home game every season.
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Better for local Manhattan economy and A.D.'s office revenue wise to keep it in Manhattan. Also, a large portion of KSU fans come from far west, and would not make the trip.
"Better for local Manhattan economy" Yes, I agree.
"A.D.'s office revenue wise to keep it in Manhattan" Not sure I agree. CU and CSU each make 1-1.5 million per game when played in Denver.
"Also, a large portion of KSU fans come from far west, and would not make the trip." This is a good reason. Don't want to piss off your season ticket holders.
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Better for local Manhattan economy and A.D.'s office revenue wise to keep it in Manhattan. Also, a large portion of KSU fans come from far west, and would not make the trip.
"Better for local Manhattan economy" Yes, I agree.
"A.D.'s office revenue wise to keep it in Manhattan" Not sure I agree. CU and CSU each make 1-1.5 million per game when played in Denver.
"Also, a large portion of KSU fans come from far west, and would not make the trip." This is a good reason. Don't want to piss off your season ticket holders.
Local restaurants, bars, and hotels make more than that, I would imagine
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I have a brilliant idea, let's play a game between two Kansas schools in Missouri.
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Good question. Why doesn't they???
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Good question. Why doesn't they???
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They don't work for a company that pays for it, unfortunately. Maybe a few more years would help.
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Both CU and CSU each make $1-1.5 million for each game played in Denver. It also gives each school an extra home game every season.
That seems like a crazy low amount of money for the biggest game of the year. For instance take any given K-State game, if we have an average ticket price of $60, it's much bigger btw, we are making over $3 million in ticket sales alone. That doesn't count parking or concessions. It also doesn't count the millions spent locally. For schools like Colorado and CSU it makes no sense to play that game on a neutral field.
Also it doesn't give each school another home game, that's not how it works bro.
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:kstategrad:
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I believe we reserve Arrowhead for teams from the state of Iowa.
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Both CU and CSU each make $1-1.5 million for each game played in Denver. It also gives each school an extra home game every season.
That seems like a crazy low amount of money for the biggest game of the year. For instance take any given K-State game, if we have an average ticket price of $60, it's much bigger btw, we are making over $3 million in ticket sales alone. That doesn't count parking or concessions. It also doesn't count the millions spent locally. For schools like Colorado and CSU it makes no sense to play that game on a neutral field.
Also it doesn't give each school another home game, that's not how it works bro.
I'll clarify how it works in the Rocky Mountain Showdown: Both schools include the RMS in their respective season tickets package, so technically, you are correct that it's not another home game.
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Better for local Manhattan economy and A.D.'s office revenue wise to keep it in Manhattan. Also, a large portion of KSU fans come from far west, and would not make the trip.
"Better for local Manhattan economy" Yes, I agree.
"A.D.'s office revenue wise to keep it in Manhattan" Not sure I agree. CU and CSU each make 1-1.5 million per game when played in Denver.
"Also, a large portion of KSU fans come from far west, and would not make the trip." This is a good reason. Don't want to piss off your season ticket holders.
Local restaurants, bars, and hotels make more than that, I would imagine
I agree that the local economy probably benefits more than that, but I was only talking about net profit for the athletic departments.
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Would make as much sense as having K-State and KU play at Cessna Stadium, which means stupid AF
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The only reason to play a game at AH is for KC fans to have a short drive. And beers at the game
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The only reason to play a game at AH is for KC fans to have a short drive. And beers at the game
Pretty lame that you have to be "in the club" to get beer at a football game.
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wtf is your problem mike from fort collins?
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Is Mike being here 24/7 his effort to make this place as shitty as actual 247?
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An hour drive from Manhattan to watch the cats kick the hawks ass is almost too long.. 2 hours would be a deal breaker
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wtf is your problem mike from fort collins?
Meet at the bike racks after school? :blank:
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Mods, please lock this thread.
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P5 envy. Sad.
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Take a lap, Mike. :dubious:
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Both CU and CSU each make $1-1.5 million for each game played in Denver. It also gives each school an extra home game every season.
That seems like a crazy low amount of money for the biggest game of the year. For instance take any given K-State game, if we have an average ticket price of $60, it's much bigger btw, we are making over $3 million in ticket sales alone. That doesn't count parking or concessions. It also doesn't count the millions spent locally. For schools like Colorado and CSU it makes no sense to play that game on a neutral field.
Also it doesn't give each school another home game, that's not how it works bro.
I'll clarify how it works in the Rocky Mountain Showdown: Both schools include the RMS in their respective season tickets package, so technically, you are correct that it's not another home game.
Wait a minute, everyone else shut up.
Are you telling us that this game on Friday will have season ticket holders from both Colorado and Colorado State receiving tickets for this game?
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The only reason to play a game at AH is for KC fans to have a short drive. And beers at the game
Pretty lame that you have to be "in the club" to get beer at a football game.
we don't live to get black out drunk and arrested at games. it's a nice amenity to be able to buy a poor KU or ISU fan a beer, but who really gaf?
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I get drunk and high off of cats football Mike from Ft. Collins
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if i was the fan of a team that is never on real tv, i'd get blackout af
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The major motivation to legalize weed in CO was to make the football there watchable.
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Both CU and CSU each make $1-1.5 million for each game played in Denver. It also gives each school an extra home game every season.
That seems like a crazy low amount of money for the biggest game of the year. For instance take any given K-State game, if we have an average ticket price of $60, it's much bigger btw, we are making over $3 million in ticket sales alone. That doesn't count parking or concessions. It also doesn't count the millions spent locally. For schools like Colorado and CSU it makes no sense to play that game on a neutral field.
Also it doesn't give each school another home game, that's not how it works bro.
I'll clarify how it works in the Rocky Mountain Showdown: Both schools include the RMS in their respective season tickets package, so technically, you are correct that it's not another home game.
Wait a minute, everyone else shut up.
Are you telling us that this game on Friday will have season ticket holders from both Colorado and Colorado State receiving tickets for this game?
Colorado's season tickets include the option for the game in Denver or you can trade it out for another home game. :runaway: :surprised:
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Technically, every year we play a home game against KU. Only reason I can see for moving it to Arrowhead would be to play in a nicer stadium than KU's, but if we wanted to do that, why not meet in the middle and play at Topeka High, or Lawrence Free State? Fact of the matter is, it's not worth it to take away games played at Manhattan. If KU wanted to play at Arrowhead instead of their home games against us, than I am all for it. But no sense in decreasing the amount of home games we have in BSFS. That's not beneficial to anyone.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
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you expect KU fans to leave the friendly confines of the cabana to go to Arrowhead
posh
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Both CU and CSU each make $1-1.5 million for each game played in Denver. It also gives each school an extra home game every season.
That seems like a crazy low amount of money for the biggest game of the year. For instance take any given K-State game, if we have an average ticket price of $60, it's much bigger btw, we are making over $3 million in ticket sales alone. That doesn't count parking or concessions. It also doesn't count the millions spent locally. For schools like Colorado and CSU it makes no sense to play that game on a neutral field.
Also it doesn't give each school another home game, that's not how it works bro.
I'll clarify how it works in the Rocky Mountain Showdown: Both schools include the RMS in their respective season tickets package, so technically, you are correct that it's not another home game.
Wait a minute, everyone else shut up.
Are you telling us that this game on Friday will have season ticket holders from both Colorado and Colorado State receiving tickets for this game?
Colorado's season tickets include the option for the game in Denver or you can trade it out for another home game. :runaway: :surprised:
:ROFL: omg, and some of you want those poor losers back in the Big 12, lol
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also, it must not be making that much money, as it is moving back to campuses in 2023/24
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It's obvious Mike has never seen The Hill
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If we're taking Mike from Ft. Collins seriously, like the two Kansas P5 teams playing their neutral site game in Missouri ( :bigtoke: ), we'd be looking at attendance potential of 78,000. Since like 60,000 of those seats would be sold to K-State fans, and the ticket sales are split evenly between the teams, we'd be giving KU a ton of money. Ain't gonna happen.
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I think we are waiting for KU to get wise and just play in Manhappiness every year, like we did with OU and NU in the early 80s when we realized we weren't competitive with those to then collegiate superpowers. I think the squawks are a Beatty derailment away from coming to that reality.
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$$$$$
Both CU and CSU each make $1-1.5 million for each game played in Denver. It also gives each school an extra home game every season.
That seems like a crazy low amount of money for the biggest game of the year. For instance take any given K-State game, if we have an average ticket price of $60, it's much bigger btw, we are making over $3 million in ticket sales alone. That doesn't count parking or concessions. It also doesn't count the millions spent locally. For schools like Colorado and CSU it makes no sense to play that game on a neutral field.
Also it doesn't give each school another home game, that's not how it works bro.
I'll clarify how it works in the Rocky Mountain Showdown: Both schools include the RMS in their respective season tickets package, so technically, you are correct that it's not another home game.
Wait a minute, everyone else shut up.
Are you telling us that this game on Friday will have season ticket holders from both Colorado and Colorado State receiving tickets for this game?
Colorado's season tickets include the option for the game in Denver or you can trade it out for another home game. :runaway: :surprised:
This is correct. Enough season ticket holders for CU complained about it that they instituted this last year, I think.
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also, it must not be making that much money, as it is moving back to campuses in 2023/24
Both schools will not make as much money by moving back to campus, but it creates less headache for both schools. CSU is ok with continuing in Denver, but CU is not (unless it's CSU's home game). CSU is fine with this agreement since we have our new stadium.
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If we're taking Mike from Ft. Collins seriously, like the two Kansas P5 teams playing their neutral site game in Missouri ( :bigtoke: ), we'd be looking at attendance potential of 78,000. Since like 60,000 of those seats would be sold to K-State fans, and the ticket sales are split evenly between the teams, we'd be giving KU a ton of money. Ain't gonna happen.
Playing in Mile High is a big deal to the 18-20 year old players who get to use the same locker rooms as the NFL teams and play on an NFL field (the same one John Elway, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, etc) played on. Fans who have to drive further and/or get worse seats don't particularly like it.
I think CU gets 55% of the tickets (west side) and CSU gets 45% of the tickets (east side). Each school disperses them however they choose.
I'm not advocating KU and KSU move to KC. I'm just curious if they ever played there, and if not, then why? Even once every 3 years in a 6 year cycle (so twice total) would be an interesting experiment.
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Our players actually get drafted so they don't care so much since they will eventually get paid to play on an NFL field. I'm sure it's a great experience for mountain west kids tho, I think some d2 teams play each other at Arrowhead too
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good grief mike from ft collins, just admit you posed a stupid question and be done with it, more like wackyram (no offense wackycat08)
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I think the whole "it's in Missouri" should suffice on the whole why it has not been done and will not be done.
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also, it must not be making that much money, as it is moving back to campuses in 2023/24
Both schools will not make as much money by moving back to campus, but it creates less headache for both schools. CSU is ok with continuing in Denver, but CU is not (unless it's CSU's home game). CSU is fine with this agreement since we have our new stadium.
You are bad at math. You play in a 41,000 seat.stadium. To make less than the $2 million you said CSU gets, the average ticket price would only be $45 and you would make exactly zero dollars on concessions and parking.
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It's colorado state talk here and people comparing stokes (?) to denis clemente on the hoops board. We should make this place exclusively combofanning and leave all the sports stuff to rivals.com, bitb at very sports college sports internet stuff.
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also, it must not be making that much money, as it is moving back to campuses in 2023/24
Both schools will not make as much money by moving back to campus, but it creates less headache for both schools. CSU is ok with continuing in Denver, but CU is not (unless it's CSU's home game). CSU is fine with this agreement since we have our new stadium.
You are bad at math. You play in a 41,000 seat.stadium. To make less than the $2 million you said CSU gets, the average ticket price would only be $45 and you would make exactly zero dollars on concessions and parking.
There's also TV $ that comes into play. I think the city of Denver kicks in some money too. I'm not figuring the numbers. I'm just posting what I've seen/heard in the news.
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also, it must not be making that much money, as it is moving back to campuses in 2023/24
Both schools will not make as much money by moving back to campus, but it creates less headache for both schools. CSU is ok with continuing in Denver, but CU is not (unless it's CSU's home game). CSU is fine with this agreement since we have our new stadium.
You are bad at math. You play in a 41,000 seat.stadium. To make less than the $2 million you said CSU gets, the average ticket price would only be $45 and you would make exactly zero dollars on concessions and parking.
There's also TV $ that comes into play. I think the city of Denver kicks in some money too. I'm not figuring the numbers. I'm just posting what I've seen/heard in the news.
yeah forgot to count in all that tv money this juggernaut matchup generates :flush:
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Bring back Farmageddon @ Arrowhead :emawkid:
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We should buy out the Lawrence game and move it to Manhattan every year. We'd get an extra home game, they'd get some extra money, and they'd get to use nice facilities an extra Saturday in the fall. A win for everyone.
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also, it must not be making that much money, as it is moving back to campuses in 2023/24
Both schools will not make as much money by moving back to campus, but it creates less headache for both schools. CSU is ok with continuing in Denver, but CU is not (unless it's CSU's home game). CSU is fine with this agreement since we have our new stadium.
You are bad at math. You play in a 41,000 seat.stadium. To make less than the $2 million you said CSU gets, the average ticket price would only be $45 and you would make exactly zero dollars on concessions and parking.
There's also TV $ that comes into play. I think the city of Denver kicks in some money too. I'm not figuring the numbers. I'm just posting what I've seen/heard in the news.
You only get tv money every other year when CSU has the media rights. You don't really think the Pac 12 Network is cutting CSU a slice, do you?
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the farmageddons in arrowhead were the lamest thing OAT
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the farmageddons in arrowhead were the lamest thing OAT
The only thing I treasure is winning via blocked XP attempt.
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you didn't party with Trim/Pete/me at the official Farmageddon WUTT tailpak
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the farmageddons in arrowhead were the lamest thing OAT
The only thing I treasure is winning via blocked XP attempt.
Yeah, and really both games were pretty fun late game wins against flood aggie, but the blocked XP is probably one of my favorite ways we've won a game since I really paid attention to k-state football (2000)
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I don't think I've been to Arrowhead since the Eddie Robinson or the Big 12 champy loss to OU. Whichever was last.
I hope I get to go back for the WC. Other than that, yuck.
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the farmageddons in arrowhead were the lamest thing OAT
Nah
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Apologies if posted elsewhere, but the state's band nerds are going to be denied the thrill of playing in front of empty stands: http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2017/aug/29/high-school-musicians-wont-be-performing-memorial-/
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had a girl in my class pass out on the field at ku band day. very unsafe
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the farmageddons in arrowhead were the lamest thing OAT
False
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I don't think I've been to Arrowhead since the Eddie Robinson or the Big 12 champy loss to OU. Whichever was last.
I hope I get to go back for the WC. Other than that, yuck.
Eddie Robinson v Cal was '03. Crazy to think honestly that we played 15 fuckings game that year.
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Apologies if posted elsewhere, but the state's band nerds are going to be denied the thrill of playing in front of empty stands: http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2017/aug/29/high-school-musicians-wont-be-performing-memorial-/
I don't think we are having our band day either.
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If KC had built new stadiums downtown and not stayed in the middle of vast asphalt wasteland on the edge of Raytown.
Then a Kstate game with a huge guaranteed payday in KC every once in awhile is worth considering.
But no way to ever going back to Stankville USA aka Camerohead of Raytown
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KU can play mizzou non con at arrowhead, once they decide to renew that rivalry
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KU can play mizzou non con at arrowhead, once they decide to renew that rivalry
Squawks actually believe this is what kept them from playing for a national championship
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they didn't even win the north :lol:
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I don't think I've been to Arrowhead since the Eddie Robinson or the Big 12 champy loss to OU. Whichever was last.
I hope I get to go back for the WC. Other than that, yuck.
Eddie Robinson v Cal was '03. Crazy to think honestly that we played 15 fuckings game that year.
it was pretty warm that day
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I don't think I've been to Arrowhead since the Eddie Robinson or the Big 12 champy loss to OU. Whichever was last.
I hope I get to go back for the WC. Other than that, yuck.
Eddie Robinson v Cal was '03. Crazy to think honestly that we played 15 fuckings game that year.
it was pretty warm that day
2 people literally died that day. I think one of them was a band member.
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they didn't even win the north :lol:
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Apologies if posted elsewhere, but the state's band nerds are going to be denied the thrill of playing in front of empty stands: http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2017/aug/29/high-school-musicians-wont-be-performing-memorial-/
Matthew Smith, associate director of bands at the KU School of Music, said the decision to cancel the halftime segment was not hastily made. Instead, he said, organizers are attributing the change to a combination of dwindling interest from high schools, reduced parking space and other “logistical” challenges, such as limited storage space for large instruments at Memorial Stadium, that have emerged over the last several years.
If only there were more room in the stands...
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I don't think I've been to Arrowhead since the Eddie Robinson or the Big 12 champy loss to OU. Whichever was last.
I hope I get to go back for the WC. Other than that, yuck.
Eddie Robinson v Cal was '03. Crazy to think honestly that we played 15 fuckings game that year.
it was pretty warm that day
Only 'cause I had to look it up because I couldn't remember for sure: 2000 was the Eddie Robinson vs. Iowa and it was hotter than crap. '03 was BCA classic vs. Cal. I wasn't there so I don't remember the weather. Was that a day game as well? Days games in August at Arrowhead: colossally stupid idea.
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03 Cal was an early evening kick. Still very hot. That game birf'd the butterface with the powercat pasties.
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Yeah, 2000 vs Iowa is what I was thinking of.
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yeah, the 2000 game vs Iowa in Arrowhead my grandfather had a heat stroke and had to be rushed into the hospital.
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I had a digital watch that went completely dark during that Iowa game...it was hot.
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Yeah. It was against Iowa. Khalil Hill I believe was their big wideout. Think he had tape on his facemask.