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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: pissclams on July 05, 2017, 09:19:40 PM
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was our offense any good last year?
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-ranked 83rd nationally :Yuck:
-5.74 ypp :blank:
-388.3 ypg :cry:
-49 offensive td's :frown:
i guess if the 2nd half of the Missouri St game doesn't get cancelled maybe we score a couple more td's?
how do we get better this year (significantly)?
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Meat hook will account for 20% more touchdowns for the 2017 cats.
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We actually finished in the 40s nationally and the last half of the season was really good. I think the offense will be top 25 at least.
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I mean, Ford is kind of a moron.
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Yeah ertz was super banged up especially early on
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83rd best offense does not pass the smell test
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We actually finished in the 40s nationally and the last half of the season was really good. I think the offense will be top 25 at least.
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/21/p2
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Yeah ertz was super banged up especially early on
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he'll be banged up again this season
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http://www.footballoutsiders.com/
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Yeah ertz was super banged up especially early on
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he'll be banged up again this season
Agreed. But apparently we have a bagillion decent QB's, so no self limitations (goal 12).
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Big 12 only stats, Cats were only behind OU and OSU offensively. Not real explosive (YPP) but really good everywhere else.
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We don't call it Snyder's slothfense for nothing. You just gotta have to own it, 'Clams. The only stat that matters to us is Time Of Possession.
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Yeah ertz was super banged up especially early on
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he'll be banged up again this season
I thought having Barnes and McCoy meant he wouldn't have to carry so much of the load / wouldn't be as banged up. :dunno:
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Yeah ertz was super banged up especially early on
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he'll be banged up again this season
I thought having Barnes and McCoy meant he wouldn't have to carry so much of the load / wouldn't be as banged up. :dunno:
i thought having a good offensive line meant kline wouldn't be as banged up either. the truth is that nothing can save a LHC Bill Snyder qb from LHC Bill Snyder.
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I concur, on two accounts:
1 - Time of possession is our most important offensive statistic. That and playing defense is the calling card of most Snyder teams. Do some people still not get this? The Bishop years and those Jake Waters years when we couldn't run worth a damn were outliers. We were 45th in the nation in offensive ppg last season, 32.2. Regardless of where that ranks us, we need to score more than that to win the conference. Maybe at least 5 more ppg?
2 - Ertz will be banged up at some point this season. Let's hope it is not during a vital game (OU, OSU).
Question - how overrated are our running backs?
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Turnover stats are more important than time of poss to this team.
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Turnover stats are more important than time of poss to this team.
Good point, probably the most important for almost any team's success. We were pretty good with the turnover margin last year.
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Turnovers and points per drive is what you need to watch guys. Those are the hallmarks of Snyder 2.0 and Dimel's offense.
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yes, also barnes was on track for a stupid number of ypc until he was snyded. this should be our best offense since bill 2.0
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some of you guys are going to get a 2013 sandwich served right to your ugly faces
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The offense has to score more points than the defense allows, that's all.
I think the real concern this year is how many points will the defense allow? Defend me
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some of you guys are going to get a 2013 sandwich served right to your ugly faces
with Lee leaving 2014 actually sounds about right - that team was playing to tie for the conference title on the final game of the season
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Yeah ertz was super banged up especially early on
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he'll be banged up again this season
I thought having Barnes and McCoy meant he wouldn't have to carry so much of the load / wouldn't be as banged up. :dunno:
i thought having a good offensive line meant kline wouldn't be as banged up either. the truth is that nothing can save a LHC Bill Snyder qb from LHC Bill Snyder.
While your point might still be accurate about Snyder QBs, a good line wasn't going to reduce the qb carries. A really great running back tandem might do just that.
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yes, also barnes was on track for a stupid number of ypc until he was snyded. this should be our best offense since bill 2.0
I highly doubt this will be our best offense. A good one, sure, but not better than 2012 or 2014.
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Big 12 only stats, Cats were only behind OU and OSU offensively. Not real explosive (YPP) but really good everywhere else.
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KU's shitiness on offense and defense really shines through in those stats.
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The offense has to score more points than the defense allows, that's all.
I think the real concern this year is how many points will the defense allow? Defend me
I think you're forgetting Sean Snyd's special teams.
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Makes the offense even less important
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was our offense any good last year?
ford keys to the thread-
-ranked 83rd nationally :Yuck:
-5.74 ypp :blank:
-388.3 ypg :cry:
-49 offensive td's :frown:
i guess if the 2nd half of the Missouri St game doesn't get cancelled maybe we score a couple more td's?
how do we get better this year (significantly)?
Don't know who Ford is nor do I care. The only stat that really matters in offensive production is points per drive. Some of these spread offenses are super cool and sexy throwing 100 passes a game and winning foot races between the 20s....but all that matters - efficiency.
Yes, this will be a demon of an offense. It was the final 6 games of the season last year. And we're adding a few new shiny toys of delicious playmaking.
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Going in to next year we will have a pretty efficient offense (ranked #3 in the conference and #34 overall) and defense (#3 in Big 12, #51 overall)
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was our offense any good last year?
ford keys to the thread-
-ranked 83rd nationally :Yuck:
-5.74 ypp :blank:
-388.3 ypg :cry:
-49 offensive td's :frown:
i guess if the 2nd half of the Missouri St game doesn't get cancelled maybe we score a couple more td's?
how do we get better this year (significantly)?
Don't know who Ford is nor do I care. The only stat that really matters in offensive production is points per drive. Some of these spread offenses are super cool and sexy throwing 100 passes a game and winning foot races between the 20s....but all that matters - efficiency.
Yes, this will be a demon of an offense. It was the final 6 games of the season last year. And we're adding a few new shiny toys of delicious playmaking.
It is going to be fun.
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yes, also barnes was on track for a stupid number of ypc until he was snyded. this should be our best offense since bill 2.0
I highly doubt this will be our best offense. A good one, sure, but not better than 2012 or 2014.
Yeah, unless we somehow let Ertz open things up through the air, but that seems pretty unlikely to me given last year's success with playing it more conservatively. '12 offense was great. I don't see this year's being to that level. '14...maybe, that seems attainable.
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Question - how overrated are our running backs?
I think they are very good.
Silmon filled in nicely after Barnes went out and everything we've heard about McCoy is that he will be tough to keep off the field.
Barnes ought to be the #1 but backups of Silmon/McCoy are very solid.
A full season of Barnes might be 1st Team All-Confy.
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Question - how overrated are our running backs?
I think they are very good.
Silmon filled in nicely after Barnes went out and everything we've heard about McCoy is that he will be tough to keep off the field.
Barnes ought to be the #1 but backups of Silmon/McCoy are very solid.
A full season of Barnes might be 1st Team All-Confy.
If Barnes is 1st team all conference I think that means we're playing in the conference title game. Without Forman, Perine, and Mixon, the all conference RB race should be up in the air. Justin Crawford from WVU is the top returner in terms of '16 rushing yds.
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Question - how overrated are our running backs?
I think they are very good.
Silmon filled in nicely after Barnes went out and everything we've heard about McCoy is that he will be tough to keep off the field.
Barnes ought to be the #1 but backups of Silmon/McCoy are very solid.
A full season of Barnes might be 1st Team All-Confy.
If Barnes is 1st team all conference I think that means we're playing in the conference title game. Without Forman, Perine, and Mixon, the all conference RB race should be up in the air. Justin Crawford from WVU is the top returner in terms of '16 rushing yds.
Agreed, if we have a RB on the all conference first team, we had a really nice year.
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Somebody tell me why McCoy will contribute significantly this year.
Somebody tell me why McCoy won't contribute significantly this year.
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was our offense any good last year?
ford keys to the thread-
-ranked 83rd nationally :Yuck:
-5.74 ypp :blank:
-388.3 ypg :cry:
-49 offensive td's :frown:
i guess if the 2nd half of the Missouri St game doesn't get cancelled maybe we score a couple more td's?
how do we get better this year (significantly)?
Don't know who Ford is nor do I care. The only stat that really matters in offensive production is points per drive. Some of these spread offenses are super cool and sexy throwing 100 passes a game and winning foot races between the 20s....but all that matters - efficiency.
Yes, this will be a demon of an offense. It was the final 6 games of the season last year. And we're adding a few new shiny toys of delicious playmaking.
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what's your thoughts?
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Somebody tell me why McCoy will contribute significantly this year. --- Clearly talented enough to do so.
Somebody tell me why McCoy won't contribute significantly this year. ---- Backfield is too crowded. Most fans are going to want Silmon's carries be McCoy's carries by the end of the season, I think.
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I'm prettysure that this is analogous to (*spoiler alert*) that video where people are passing basketballs all over the place and a gorilla (unbeknownst to most viewers, who are supposed to be tracking a particular basketball or something) walks across the screen.
Well...nice try. This effing guy doesn't have a logo on his cap, which is far more odd than either key to the game.
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Somebody tell me why McCoy will contribute significantly this year. --- Clearly talented enough to do so.
Somebody tell me why McCoy won't contribute significantly this year. ---- Backfield is too crowded. Most fans are going to want Silmon's carries be McCoy's carries by the end of the season, I think.
Will Bill be willing to give McCoy more of Silmon's carries?