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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: #LIFE on March 05, 2017, 01:49:30 PM
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On Coach oscar Weber…
“I did not like anything about today except for being able to shake hands with one of the best coaches in the country after the game. He has won eight games in this league and had his team in the top-25 this year. They lost a couple of heartbreakers. The Kansas game, the guy takes about four steps and they beat K-State there. I think you got a really good coach here. He does it the right way and is one of the most respected coaches in the country.”
Immediately, it was met with some typical comments from those who will not acknowledge that Weber is a good coach. I paraphrase a few.
"Of course they like him. They know they can recruit over him and beat him."
And one from a West Virginia poster who loves to patronize K-State fans:
"We hope you keep Weber." What a patronizing comment. If that poster really thought that person would keep their mouth shut and not join the chorus of people thinking Weber should be fired. Or am I to believe the West Virginia poster really wants K-State fans to have a much better team?
Let me get to the point. I'll be fine if K-State decides to go with another coach if that coach plays by the rules. Frankly, I can't hardly stomach the negative, toxic fan base that will always be ready to jump in and pile on Weber all because he came in after Frank Dalonte Martin, so if it happens, fair enough. But, I won't stand by and allow the haters to spill forth their nonsense without a rebuttal.
Coach Beard is a protégé of Bob Knight who was a coach that did not resort to cheating. In later years, Knight despised what the game had become often times taking shots at Calipari and the cesspool of basketball recruiting. Beard knows this and so do many other very successful College basketball coaches. The truth is that these coaches know that Weber does not cheat and competes very well, playing with 3 star players, against other coaches who have 5 stars. When Tom Izzo talked about Weber being a great coach, this is what he meant. When Roy Williams said that oscar Weber can coach the hell out of basketball, he was saying that Weber coached a bunch of 3 stars and almost whipped my 5 stars.
Read between the lines of what Coach Beard said and realize it's importance. Weber took a team of 3 stars to Lawrence and had a team, known for breaking all the rules in the book, on the ropes.....and the refs let them off the hook with a clear traveling.
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Had the refs called the travel, Kstate would have likely lost in OT, given Oscar's inability to finish games.
When I read Beard's comments, I was reassured that his ass is grass because nobody senses blood in the water like a fellow coach.
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eff oscar Weber
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oscar needs to GTFO!
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This place is going to be nuts when oscar is retained.
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This place is going to be nuts when oscar is retained.
I'll only go nuts if he's extended.
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they could extend him while reducing the buyout if they wanted a pr extension for recruiting.
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If he doesn't get fired, he should be extended.
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If he doesn't get fired, he should be extended.
Yep.
What sys says makes the most sense. And oscar will be in no position to complain if he gets an extension. I'd say add two years and make the buyout no more than $1 mil.
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I've always liked oscarbruce even though he hasn't stopped disappointing since April of 2005. It always seemed to me that he could win a portion of the fanbase back by refusing a buyout. Just say if I don't win I don't deserve to be paid.
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they could extend him while reducing the buyout if they wanted a pr extension for recruiting.
Oscar recruiting... :ROFL:
He just finished his 5th year with no players making 1st or 2nd team All Big 12. I could close my eyes and recruit better than that!
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no you couldn't
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I'm surprised foster didn't make second team
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they could extend him while reducing the buyout if they wanted a pr extension for recruiting.
Oscar recruiting... :ROFL:
He just finished his 5th year with no players making 1st or 2nd team All Big 12. I could close my eyes and recruit better than that!
Can you imagine this team with srs foster and Johnson and jr Harris?
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Hmmmmm
http://cjonline.com/sports/2014-03-09/andrew-wiggins-named-big-12-freshman-year-k-states-marcus-foster-named-2nd-team
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So someone explain this extension stuff to me
He is under contract til 2019. 2 years from now with a 2 million buyout
So some are saying extend him further? Why more than 2 years?
All just aid in recruiting? Which he sucks at anyways.
I don't follow
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Life, thanks for the fair comments. I am for a change, but your comments remind us we could get worse. I was not confident with Currie hiring a weber replacement. If oscar stays, I think he has a good start on recruits. The last two recruits will have a strong bearing on how far I go to the darkside.
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I want a coach who cheats (recruiting wise) and wins a lot of games because good guys finish last.
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This place is going to be nuts when oscar is retained.
I will just take yet another year off of basketball watching and basketball posting.
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So someone explain this extension stuff to me
He is under contract til 2019. 2 years from now with a 2 million buyout
So some are saying extend him further? Why more than 2 years?
All just aid in recruiting? Which he sucks at anyways.
I don't follow
Yes, mainly for recruiting purposes. I'm not sure how much difference it makes, but I think most recruits (and parents) like the idea of the coach they are committing to being on contract for their careers (4 years) or at least close.
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This place is going to be nuts when oscar is retained.
I will just take yet another year off of basketball watching and basketball posting.
yeah. is 4 years really that different than 3?
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Sorry guys. I miss you sometimes.
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If he doesn't get fired, he should be extended.
Yep.
What sys says makes the most sense. And oscar will be in no position to complain if he gets an extension. I'd say add two years and make the buyout no more than $1 mil.
since Currie just gave him Frank's contract and buyout the fair thing to do is reduce it by half like oscar did the program