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Title: 20 wins and a.tourney bid is not enough to keep Wusscar.
Post by: renocat on March 02, 2017, 05:08:50 AM
Next year DJamer and Westicles will be gone.  I like what could be coming back, but I think things would be worse than this year under Weber coaching.  That loss to Oklahoma showed me.Weber will never teach toughness and grit.  Wussball doesn't cut it in power.5 conferences.  Ku is winning.on grit.  We.folded at Oklahoma.  I didn't like Frank's cussing and belittling players, but his guys were tough.  Underwood the same, tough.  Webercats play a lot like castrated tomcats.  If he doesn't get a job and leave, can him.
Title: Re: 20 wins and a.tourney bid is not enough to keep Wusscar.
Post by: GregKSU1027 on March 02, 2017, 07:51:55 AM
Next year DJamer and Westicles will be gone.  I like what could be coming back, but I think things would be worse than this year under Weber coaching.  That loss to Oklahoma showed me.Weber will never teach toughness and grit.  Wussball doesn't cut it in power.5 conferences.  Ku is winning.on grit.  We.folded at Oklahoma.  I didn't like Frank's cussing and belittling players, but his guys were tough.  Underwood the same, tough.  Webercats play a lot like castrated tomcats.  If he doesn't get a job and leave, can him.
Best reno thread in a while IMHO

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Title: Re: 20 wins and a.tourney bid is not enough to keep Wusscar.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 02, 2017, 09:54:43 AM
I'm more discouraged about our play at home. The TCU, isu and Osu games, specifically the last 2. The blowout vs Ou wasn't good, but we went 4-5 on the road, should have won at Tech, and lost by 2 & 5 at Ku/ISU.

Letting teams get 1.15 PPP against us in the 4 home Feb losses. Seeing multiple huge runs by other teams in those 4 games. Disappointing doesn't describe it. Unacceptable probably does.

Had we won 2 of those 3 mentioned home games, my overall view would be different about this season. But we didn't. Lost all 3 and looked lifeless for a majority of it
Title: Re: 20 wins and a.tourney bid is not enough to keep Wusscar.
Post by: renocat on March 03, 2017, 09:06:48 AM
Ihttps://kansasstate.rivals.com/news/from-fitz-this-mediocrity-should-lead-to-a-new-coach
Read this.  I dare anyone to provide a viable counter argument to Fitz.  Last year Fitz started a organic grassroots movement that almost got us Underwood.  Curdog stopped it.  Curdog is gone.  IT IS TIME FOR US TO ARISE AGAIN.  NO MORE DELAY.  WE WANT A NEW COACH THAT MAKES US PROUD TO BE CAT FANS.
Title: Re: 20 wins and a.tourney bid is not enough to keep Wusscar.
Post by: Bookcat on March 04, 2017, 02:25:15 PM
It's up to Brad if he wants to come home... His family would be fine with it, Momma is still in McPherson.

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Title: Re: 20 wins and a.tourney bid is not enough to keep Wusscar.
Post by: schreds21 on March 04, 2017, 05:58:23 PM
His family would be fine with it, Momma is still in McPherson.

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That's not gonna have a whole lot of bearing on the matter
Title: Re: 20 wins and a.tourney bid is not enough to keep Wusscar.
Post by: SdK on March 04, 2017, 07:08:45 PM
What has Brad does with his own players to warrant coming home?
Title: Re: 20 wins and a.tourney bid is not enough to keep Wusscar.
Post by: Powercat Posse on March 04, 2017, 07:37:06 PM
What has Brad does with his own players to warrant coming home?

He hasn't done anything yet. OSU had 4 starters back plus SR guard Forte who missed last season. He went 9-9 in the league. Decent job, not stellar at all. Was 1-7 vs top 4 seeds and split with the 6 seed.

I think he is a good coach. Better than just good...Too early to tell.  Next 2 yrs will say alot about him
Title: Re: 20 wins and a.tourney bid is not enough to keep Wusscar.
Post by: Ptolemy on March 04, 2017, 07:44:13 PM
Here a reason to fire him tonight...

“You’ve got coach (Bill) Snyder and his fight with cancer. And you’ve got me trying to win games."
 
Title: Re: 20 wins and a.tourney bid is not enough to keep Wusscar.
Post by: Canary on March 04, 2017, 07:46:44 PM
Here a reason to fire him tonight...

“You’ve got coach (Bill) Snyder and his fight with cancer. And you’ve got me trying to win games."
What was the complete context though?  I think he knows and respects that a battle for life is so much more important than basketball. Was he making that point? If so,that is admirable. 
Title: Re: 20 wins and a.tourney bid is not enough to keep Wusscar.
Post by: SdK on March 05, 2017, 09:42:04 AM
We will never know. The narrative is set.
Title: Re: 20 wins and a.tourney bid is not enough to keep Wusscar.
Post by: EMAWzifried on March 05, 2017, 11:33:43 AM
Here a reason to fire him tonight...

“You’ve got coach (Bill) Snyder and his fight with cancer. And you’ve got me trying to win games."

Yes, that was the comparison that came to my mind when I thought about Oscar's job insecurity. I've never liked him but taking over behind LCBS's health problems is sick.
Title: Re: 20 wins and a.tourney bid is not enough to keep Wusscar.
Post by: sys on March 05, 2017, 12:36:24 PM
the context was a listing of problems/concerns the interim a.d. faces, snyder's health and weber trying to win games.
Title: Re: 20 wins and a.tourney bid is not enough to keep Wusscar.
Post by: renocat on March 10, 2017, 11:05:26 PM
Have you ever seen a woman from a distance that looks like a hotsteam dream, but up close makes you nauseous.  Well we similar.  Not too many 20 win teams as ugly as us.   I am torn about Oscar's future.  I just don't think our fanbase can take to much more fracturing.   We have reached the apex of this Oscar success cycle.  If you think we will be better next year under a weber regime, then you are drinking goat piss wine.  Just always giving us enough to hope, but disappointing us with 3 stooges basketball. I like Weber.  I like toilet paper also.
Title: Re: 20 wins and a.tourney bid is not enough to keep Wusscar.
Post by: renocat on March 16, 2017, 12:50:26 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/its-time-to-call-out-the-simplistic-stupidity-of-how-we-determine-coaches-fates/
Point of this opinion piece is we should judge Oscar's entire body of work when determining whether to keep or fire him.