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Title: WiFi
Post by: SdK on January 14, 2017, 06:04:48 PM
My phone, chromebook, chromecast sometimes looks connectivity to the internet and even my wired tv and xbox sometimes cant connect. Whats the dealio?
Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: OK_Cat on January 14, 2017, 06:47:29 PM
Probably your id-10t connection


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Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: SdK on January 14, 2017, 06:51:12 PM
I've never heard of an Id10t connection. How so I check it?
Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: OK_Cat on January 14, 2017, 06:57:23 PM
It's on a lot of new routers. Might have to hold the router up to a mirror to see it, though.


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Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: SdK on January 14, 2017, 07:00:22 PM
Hmmm still didn't work. :(
Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: SdK on January 14, 2017, 07:00:55 PM
I didn't have this problem with my old router and modem. Now this combo one from cox sucks.
Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: OK_Cat on January 14, 2017, 07:19:13 PM
Unplug it and plug it back in


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Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: SdK on January 14, 2017, 07:24:03 PM
Hahaha I'm done playing the idiot role in here.

If anyone has any idea what the issue is, let me know.
Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: OK_Cat on January 14, 2017, 07:29:27 PM
OMG I called this guy an idiot in his own thread what a noob.

Take it back to cox and tell them it's broken


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Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: SdK on January 14, 2017, 07:46:38 PM
Hahahah good call. And I knew you had called me an idiot from the onset.
Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: The Big Train on January 14, 2017, 07:51:23 PM
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Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: Saulbadguy on January 16, 2017, 08:26:52 AM
Switch to a 5ghz radio
Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: SdK on January 16, 2017, 09:06:53 AM
It has both? Just only hook up to the 5ghz and don't enable smart switching?
Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: Saulbadguy on January 16, 2017, 10:30:21 AM
It has both? Just only hook up to the 5ghz and don't enable smart switching?
Yeah dude, only put devices that are only capable of 2.4ghz on the 2.4ghz network. If all of your devices are 5ghz capable, disable the 2.4ghz radio.
Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: SdK on January 16, 2017, 01:36:25 PM
Ok. I'll see what I can do about that. Thank you.
Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: CNS on January 16, 2017, 01:55:39 PM
My cable guy told me that the 5ghz is great if close to router, but not great further away compared to 2ghz.
Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: SdK on January 16, 2017, 01:57:28 PM
Science!
Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: The Big Train on January 16, 2017, 02:34:29 PM
My cable guy told me that the 5ghz is great if close to router, but not great further away compared to 2ghz.

I guess you could say that.  5ghz is the "sightline" band, as long as you can see the router it's pretty good.  It doesn't go through walls/obstacles well, however 2.4ghz does very well further away and through walls and stuff.
Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: Saulbadguy on January 16, 2017, 02:38:02 PM
2.4ghz is just crowded as crap.
Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 16, 2017, 03:41:40 PM
Just how far away from the router you planning on going CNS.

Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: SdK on January 16, 2017, 03:59:28 PM
Everything is on 5ghz only. Aside from my old ass chrome cast in the bedroom. So I'll have to flip over on my phone when I use it.
Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: puniraptor on January 16, 2017, 05:36:22 PM
I've notice that a lot of apple devices eat crap at 5ghz. is there some setting I can tweak to make my idevice better at this or just roll on at 2.4?
Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: pissclams on January 16, 2017, 06:41:48 PM
my apple devices love the living crap out of the 5 ghz channel
Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: hatingfrancisco on January 17, 2017, 07:53:54 AM
If you are losing wired ports as well I would check the modem.  You can log into most brands by opening up a browser and going to 192.168.100.1 (it's also usually documented on the modem somewhere).
Generally the downstream power (from the plant) isn't the issue but rather the upstream channels.  If most or all are hovering over 50 db (max is generally 56 before channel loses sync) then you have a physical issue somewhere.  Making sure the run to the modem isn't behind multiple splits from the incoming feed from the house is a good place to start.  A good way to check is to plug the modem into the main feed line and verify the upstream channel power.  If there is only a single split and the power difference is significant (more than the loss that is documented on the splitter itself) you have an internal wiring issue somewhere (bad splitter or end)

 
Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: hatingfrancisco on January 17, 2017, 08:02:39 AM
My cable guy told me that the 5ghz is great if close to router, but not great further away compared to 2ghz.

I guess you could say that.  5ghz is the "sightline" band, as long as you can see the router it's pretty good.  It doesn't go through walls/obstacles well, however 2.4ghz does very well further away and through walls and stuff.

This is correct.  But it's a combination of alot of things.  Probably the best way to know for sure is to download a wifi analyzer app (Wifi Analyzer for Android or I believe Netspot for Macs)  and check the signal strength and channel association for both bands (2.4 and 5 Ghz)  That will tell you how well the signal is propagating through your home and give you a better idea of where you need to fill gaps.
Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: The Big Train on January 17, 2017, 08:11:16 AM
My cable guy told me that the 5ghz is great if close to router, but not great further away compared to 2ghz.

I guess you could say that.  5ghz is the "sightline" band, as long as you can see the router it's pretty good.  It doesn't go through walls/obstacles well, however 2.4ghz does very well further away and through walls and stuff.

This is correct.  But it's a combination of alot of things.  Probably the best way to know for sure is to download a wifi analyzer app (Wifi Analyzer for Android or I believe Netspot for Macs)  and check the signal strength and channel association for both bands (2.4 and 5 Ghz)  That will tell you how well the signal is propagating through your home and give you a better idea of where you need to fill gaps.

WireShark is my personal favorite, plus you can use it for getting passwords on public wifi networks :D
Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: steve dave on January 17, 2017, 08:51:47 AM
GOGO inflight right now working great for once
Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: hatingfrancisco on January 17, 2017, 09:02:32 AM
My cable guy told me that the 5ghz is great if close to router, but not great further away compared to 2ghz.

I guess you could say that.  5ghz is the "sightline" band, as long as you can see the router it's pretty good.  It doesn't go through walls/obstacles well, however 2.4ghz does very well further away and through walls and stuff.

This is correct.  But it's a combination of alot of things.  Probably the best way to know for sure is to download a wifi analyzer app (Wifi Analyzer for Android or I believe Netspot for Macs)  and check the signal strength and channel association for both bands (2.4 and 5 Ghz)  That will tell you how well the signal is propagating through your home and give you a better idea of where you need to fill gaps.

WireShark is my personal favorite, plus you can use it for getting passwords on public wifi networks :D

TBT out here trying to scare people.   :runaway: 

These days you aren't going to glean much in the way of passwords from an open network unless some poor soul is still using POP3 for email or they bank somewhere that doesn't use SSL (which is nowhere).  Now if you wanted to put up your own open network and setup a mock credentialed email or facebook portal to lure unsuspecting users to associate that would be a different beast altoghether.

I live in Wireshark, but in this case just a simple visual interface like Wifi Analyzer will go a long ways towards cleaning up a dirty wifi environment. 
Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: The Big Train on January 17, 2017, 09:21:30 AM
My cable guy told me that the 5ghz is great if close to router, but not great further away compared to 2ghz.

I guess you could say that.  5ghz is the "sightline" band, as long as you can see the router it's pretty good.  It doesn't go through walls/obstacles well, however 2.4ghz does very well further away and through walls and stuff.

This is correct.  But it's a combination of alot of things.  Probably the best way to know for sure is to download a wifi analyzer app (Wifi Analyzer for Android or I believe Netspot for Macs)  and check the signal strength and channel association for both bands (2.4 and 5 Ghz)  That will tell you how well the signal is propagating through your home and give you a better idea of where you need to fill gaps.

WireShark is my personal favorite, plus you can use it for getting passwords on public wifi networks :D

TBT out here trying to scare people.   :runaway: 

These days you aren't going to glean much in the way of passwords from an open network unless some poor soul is still using POP3 for email or they bank somewhere that doesn't use SSL (which is nowhere).  Now if you wanted to put up your own open network and setup a mock credentialed email or facebook portal to lure unsuspecting users to associate that would be a different beast altoghether.

I live in Wireshark, but in this case just a simple visual interface like Wifi Analyzer will go a long ways towards cleaning up a dirty wifi environment.

Wasn't trying to scare anyone, if I wanted to do that I would run WireShark in a Kali Linux VM.  While also running the Social Engineering toolkit, Aircrack-ng, and Maltego.  That's another story tho.
Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: hatingfrancisco on January 17, 2017, 11:47:55 AM
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This mess was my brother's apartment complex in Dallas.  Poor souls. 

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Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: cfbandyman on January 17, 2017, 11:53:45 AM
Those poor souls need to consolidate and share some WiFi among a few of them, safe money and free up some airwaves.
Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: SdK on January 17, 2017, 12:18:34 PM
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Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: SdK on January 17, 2017, 12:19:10 PM
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Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: SdK on January 17, 2017, 12:19:33 PM
Good think I left 2.4. Eek
Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: hatingfrancisco on January 17, 2017, 05:52:42 PM
I would personally go find those folks on channels 4,5,7,8 and 9 and punch them square in the face.  Just ruining life for everyone.

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Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: hatingfrancisco on January 19, 2017, 10:10:31 AM
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Good think I left 2.4. Eek

That screenshot above shows you still connected to 2.4.  If you want to make absolutely sure you should make sure the SSID for both radios is not identical.  Something like sundancekid 2.4 or sundancekid 5.

*actually nevermind.  I see the router appends the mac address of the radio in the SSID so it should look different.  But you are still connected to 2.4 in this screen capture.*
Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: SdK on January 19, 2017, 12:16:54 PM
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Good think I left 2.4. Eek

That screenshot above shows you still connected to 2.4.  If you want to make absolutely sure you should make sure the SSID for both radios is not identical.  Something like sundancekid 2.4 or sundancekid 5.

*actually nevermind.  I see the router appends the mac address of the radio in the SSID so it should look different.  But you are still connected to 2.4 in this screen capture.*
I was an idiot and connected before I realized I didn't have to for the screen shot. I'm exclusively on 5 ghz now.
Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: MakeItRain on February 09, 2017, 09:16:12 AM
I don't know what any of this means, but I know the site has been loading slow on a Wi-Fi connection the last roughly 24 hours, and I've been connected at three different places.
Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: hatingfrancisco on February 09, 2017, 09:19:03 AM
I don't know what any of this means, but I know the site has been loading slow on a Wi-Fi connection the last roughly 24 hours, and I've been connected at three different places.

Site loads fine for me.  Could be shitty wifi at all 3 locations.  Do they have anything in common? 
Title: Re: WiFi
Post by: star seed 7 on February 28, 2017, 07:47:47 PM
It's being stressed