Post by: renocat on January 04, 2017, 10:12:11 AM
This is a waste of money. Spend it fixing blackholes called sewers.
Post by: star seed 7 on January 04, 2017, 10:17:11 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 04, 2017, 12:05:14 PM
NASA should get a blank check
"why are we here?" most of NASA during Obama administration.
Post by: star seed 7 on January 04, 2017, 12:10:15 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 04, 2017, 12:12:48 PM
"rough ridin' Obama" . . . Most NASA employees
Post by: star seed 7 on January 04, 2017, 12:14:28 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 04, 2017, 12:20:15 PM
Great point dax
Quitter
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Post by: star seed 7 on January 04, 2017, 12:23:54 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 04, 2017, 01:03:16 PM
Post by: The Big Train on January 06, 2017, 10:18:51 PM
NASA should get a blank check
"why are we here?" most of NASA during Obama administration.
it was a shame that significant progress didnt get made, which it could have. space exploration and a deeper and broader understanding of the cosmos is a good thing IMO. not only can it someday get us away from a single point of failure as a species but it can help so much with so many other things.
Post by: CNS on January 06, 2017, 10:19:56 PM
Post by: The Big Train on January 06, 2017, 10:24:15 PM
Guys, I think I might be ok with a moonbase before mars. Talk me out of it.
still a single point of failure. nothing on the moon could be self sustaining. the problem with mars is its so hard to get started there, but once we did and it is self sustaining, if the earth is blown up by an asteroid or comet the human race is still around.
Post by: CNS on January 06, 2017, 10:26:58 PM
Post by: The Big Train on January 06, 2017, 10:36:04 PM
by simple statistics having two habitable locations increases your likelihood of survival 10000000x fold
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 06, 2017, 10:37:00 PM
Post by: mocat on January 06, 2017, 10:37:04 PM
Post by: The Big Train on January 06, 2017, 10:38:03 PM
Which planet would survive if the sun exploded?
is this a serious question?
Post by: star seed 7 on January 06, 2017, 10:38:42 PM
Post by: mocat on January 06, 2017, 10:40:20 PM
Post by: CNS on January 06, 2017, 10:41:15 PM
Post by: mocat on January 06, 2017, 10:42:23 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on January 06, 2017, 10:43:17 PM
Post by: CNS on January 06, 2017, 10:43:40 PM
Post by: The Big Train on January 06, 2017, 10:43:55 PM
Post by: mocat on January 06, 2017, 10:46:12 PM
Post by: mocat on January 06, 2017, 10:47:42 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on January 06, 2017, 10:49:34 PM
Post by: mocat on January 06, 2017, 10:50:07 PM
that's great
Post by: The Big Train on January 06, 2017, 10:50:31 PM
Post by: mocat on January 06, 2017, 10:50:54 PM
Post by: renocat on January 06, 2017, 10:51:41 PM
Post by: The Big Train on January 06, 2017, 10:53:19 PM
19 trillion in debt and counting. We don't have extra money to spend on space. I would rather use money on basic infrastructure. I like safe water to drink, a crapper that when flushed takes away organicReno, and not having to dodge pot holes. Make Chinese pay for space exploration, and send neverTrumpers off planet to placate their wishes to leave.
even in renoland you have clean water to drink you rough ridin' dumbass
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 09, 2017, 11:01:07 PM
Tbh I don't really give a crap about the survival of the human race
I can't believe that anyone really does.
Post by: renocat on January 09, 2017, 11:36:27 PM
19 trillion in debt and counting. We don't have extra money to spend on space. I would rather use money on basic infrastructure. I like safe water to drink, a crapper that when flushed takes away organicReno, and not having to dodge pot holes. Make Chinese pay for space exploration, and send neverTrumpers off planet to placate their wishes to leave.
even in renoland you have clean water to drink you rough ridin' dumbass
For how long? Most water systems in Kansas are nearing being 100 years old. As leaks occur, back siphoning occurs.sucking in nastiness. A lot of small systems are poorly operated. Big cities face the same problems only on a.larger scale. I don't think.most.people realize how.fragile water and.sewer infrastructure is. Out of sight out mind. It.will take one trillion to modernize these systems.
Post by: mocat on January 09, 2017, 11:39:02 PM
It's raccoons right? Imagine the unguarded trash that would be laying around everywhere
Post by: mocat on January 09, 2017, 11:40:00 PM
A: Bears are too slow and there aren't that many of them
Post by: mocat on January 09, 2017, 11:41:29 PM
Post by: mocat on January 09, 2017, 11:45:52 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 10, 2017, 10:32:10 AM
We should go to Mars because we can, and we need to get back in the business of doing amazing things nobody else can do and then mushing the rest of the world's face in it. Planting the flag is the first objective. Any technological and industrial advances are just icing on the cake. Let's make NASA great again. Start by mothballing the ISS and defunding all climate research.
reading this post I was all like "F yeah KSU W, I totally agree that is a killer idea!" and then it got stupid.
Post by: star seed 7 on January 10, 2017, 10:45:28 AM
Post by: Tobias on January 10, 2017, 10:50:55 AM
Post by: renocat on January 10, 2017, 12:50:40 PM
Gorillas seems like an obvious choice, but something doesn't feel rightSounds like another 134 million dollar study for NASA. Gorillas would be good astronauts. I would.favor blasting poosums and deer into space. Although a ring of.critter guts circling the earth is disconcerting.
Post by: mocat on January 10, 2017, 12:52:32 PM
Post by: SdK on January 10, 2017, 12:57:42 PM
also i think whales will make a big comeback in the animal rankings (ocean division)Orcas will always be number 1
Post by: mocat on January 10, 2017, 12:59:50 PM
also i think whales will make a big comeback in the animal rankings (ocean division)Orcas will always be number 1
#1's would not allow themselves to be owned and used as grotesque entertainment attractions and kept in tiny swimming pools.
Post by: cfbandyman on January 10, 2017, 01:02:16 PM
We should go to Mars because we can, and we need to get back in the business of doing amazing things nobody else can do and then mushing the rest of the world's face in it. Planting the flag is the first objective. Any technological and industrial advances are just icing on the cake. Let's make NASA great again. Start by mothballing the ISS and defunding all climate research.
reading this post I was all like "F yeah KSU W, I totally agree that is a killer idea!" and then it got stupid.
Yup, like, can't we do both? O wait, yes, yes we can and we should.
Post by: SdK on January 10, 2017, 01:04:10 PM
Hmmm well what animal doesn't get caught?also i think whales will make a big comeback in the animal rankings (ocean division)Orcas will always be number 1
#1's would not allow themselves to be owned and used as grotesque entertainment attractions and kept in tiny swimming pools.
Post by: SdK on January 10, 2017, 01:04:32 PM
Post by: CNS on January 11, 2017, 04:00:44 PM
Quote
Two days ago, an enormous asteroid flew past Earth. It was half as close as the moon. And we barely saw it coming.
Post by: mocat on January 11, 2017, 04:25:45 PM
Post by: CNS on January 11, 2017, 04:36:21 PM
Post by: renocat on January 11, 2017, 04:42:18 PM
i mean, what would nasa do about itShoot.gorillas and.orcas at it to knock.it out of its.orbit.
Post by: star seed 7 on January 11, 2017, 04:42:28 PM
Post by: mocat on January 11, 2017, 04:44:49 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on January 11, 2017, 04:45:18 PM
Post by: CNS on January 11, 2017, 04:46:55 PM
Also, I have heard interviews where the speaker said it could be as simple as painting one side of it and not the other.
I mean, we are talking about going to mars and stuff, but you guys think we can't move a rock?
Blowing one up could take one spot on earth that gets totally devastated and make it 2 or 3 or 4.
Post by: mocat on January 11, 2017, 04:48:05 PM
Also, I have heard interviews where the speaker said it could be as simple as painting one side of it and not the other.
:lol: so simple :lol:
Post by: renocat on January 11, 2017, 04:50:21 PM
Appears there is an official NASA astroid fighting ageny. Give black hole money to this if it won't be used for.sewer and water system fixing. Obama could head this.
Post by: CNS on January 11, 2017, 04:51:44 PM
Also, I have heard interviews where the speaker said it could be as simple as painting one side of it and not the other.
:lol: so simple :lol:
Yeah, MoDax, I'm not saying a house painter is going to go Sherwin Williams our way out of danger. The point is something can be done if we have time to do it.
Post by: The Big Train on January 11, 2017, 06:31:54 PM
Post by: Gooch on January 12, 2017, 10:01:36 AM
That last sentence. :lol:We should go to Mars because we can, and we need to get back in the business of doing amazing things nobody else can do and then mushing the rest of the world's face in it. Planting the flag is the first objective. Any technological and industrial advances are just icing on the cake. Let's make NASA great again. Start by mothballing the ISS and defunding all climate research.
reading this post I was all like "F yeah KSU W, I totally agree that is a killer idea!" and then it got stupid.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 12, 2017, 10:05:32 AM
So, a 10 story building sized 'stroid rolls right between us and the moon, and we didn't see it until 48 hours out, but we're gonna spend like a gazzillion dollars on black hole stuff.
I mean, if we get swallowed up by a black hole, I mean, gosh, that's game over for sure, right? But as CNS (who is strangely butthurt) said, we might be able to do something about a 'stroid, I mean, we have oscar Willis, still.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 12, 2017, 11:02:11 AM
I'm not getting the CNS butthurt here.
So, a 10 story building sized 'stroid rolls right between us and the moon, and we didn't see it until 48 hours out, but we're gonna spend like a gazzillion dollars on black hole stuff.
I mean, if we get swallowed up by a black hole, I mean, gosh, that's game over for sure, right? But as CNS (who is strangely butthurt) said, we might be able to do something about a 'stroid, I mean, we have oscar Willis, still.
but for how long? :ohno:
Post by: CNS on January 12, 2017, 12:29:44 PM
I just think we need to fund something that does a better job of finding these things and coming up with what to do when we find them, depending on timelines. I mean, that could just be my massive aching butthurt talking, though.
Other than what we know is out there(see that pic) I have heard interviews where ppl think we know a very small portion of what is actually out there(see big rock that almost hit us).
To help boost this, we could pair it up with getting closer to mining them. I mean, mining is probably the one thing that will expedite our space program. As soon as we can start making money by doing it, everyone will be trying to do it.
Post by: The Big Train on January 12, 2017, 12:49:31 PM
To help boost this, we could pair it up with getting closer to mining them. I mean, mining is probably the one thing that will expedite our space program. As soon as we can start making money by doing it, everyone will be trying to do it.
Now I've heard everything. We just have to send drilling equipment up there and will just be a feeding frenzy. It's gonna take about a trillion just to get an ounce back.
Post by: CNS on January 12, 2017, 12:54:51 PM
Post by: The Big Train on January 12, 2017, 01:04:54 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 12, 2017, 01:07:00 PM
Post by: CNS on January 12, 2017, 01:09:51 PM
That would be the dream if we knew where they would all be.
Well, the exact thing I started posting about ITT is funding a process to locate them all. :dunno:
Post by: cfbandyman on January 12, 2017, 01:09:58 PM
If we know about one in time, they have been working on small drives that exert tiny amts of force over long periods of time that can gently move the course of one.
Also, I have heard interviews where the speaker said it could be as simple as painting one side of it and not the other.
I mean, we are talking about going to mars and stuff, but you guys think we can't move a rock?
Blowing one up could take one spot on earth that gets totally devastated and make it 2 or 3 or 4.
The solution I've heard is very easy (comparatively), just send a craft, have it orbit around it in such a way is slowly alter it's trajectory that way. No need for extra propulsion.
That's really big reason behind the capture and asteroid into moon's orbit project. Test the ability to do so.
Post by: The Big Train on January 12, 2017, 01:14:40 PM
That would be the dream if we knew where they would all be.
Well, the exact thing I started posting about ITT is funding a process to locate them all. :dunno:
Kepler makes sense for finding new planets. How do you even start finding astroids and comets when you have no sun behind them?
Post by: cfbandyman on January 12, 2017, 01:16:08 PM
That would be the dream if we knew where they would all be.
Well, the exact thing I started posting about ITT is funding a process to locate them all. :dunno:
Kepler makes sense for finding new planets. How do you even start finding astroids and comets when you have no sun behind them?
Gravitational anomalies
Post by: CNS on January 12, 2017, 01:16:36 PM
That would be the dream if we knew where they would all be.
Well, the exact thing I started posting about ITT is funding a process to locate them all. :dunno:
Kepler makes sense for finding new planets. How do you even start finding astroids and comets when you have no sun behind them?
Probably one of the first things that NASA needs to figure out once we fund that project.
Post by: The Big Train on January 12, 2017, 01:20:31 PM
That would be the dream if we knew where they would all be.
Well, the exact thing I started posting about ITT is funding a process to locate them all. :dunno:
Kepler makes sense for finding new planets. How do you even start finding astroids and comets when you have no sun behind them?
Gravitational anomalies
Effecting what? Are we just gonna measure every object in the Kuiper belt that we know of for the differences in their orbits we know nothing about? Every planets trillionth of a fraction orbit movement? Something that small doesn't have gravitational lensing either. It's not as easy as you think
Post by: The Big Train on January 12, 2017, 01:21:52 PM
That would be the dream if we knew where they would all be.
Well, the exact thing I started posting about ITT is funding a process to locate them all. :dunno:
Kepler makes sense for finding new planets. How do you even start finding astroids and comets when you have no sun behind them?
Probably one of the first things that NASA needs to figure out once we fund that project.
I could see using radio telescopes like sonar but you could only do a hundredth of a fraction of a percent of the sky in a year. It's a very challenging question for sure.
Post by: CNS on January 12, 2017, 01:28:17 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on January 12, 2017, 02:48:59 PM
Post by: The Big Train on January 12, 2017, 03:07:33 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on January 12, 2017, 04:13:47 PM
That would be the dream if we knew where they would all be.
Well, the exact thing I started posting about ITT is funding a process to locate them all. :dunno:
Kepler makes sense for finding new planets. How do you even start finding astroids and comets when you have no sun behind them?
Gravitational anomalies
Effecting what? Are we just gonna measure every object in the Kuiper belt that we know of for the differences in their orbits we know nothing about? Every planets trillionth of a fraction orbit movement? Something that small doesn't have gravitational lensing either. It's not as easy as you think
We don't need to map Kuiper belt objects (yet), only crap inside the asteroid belt. And I know it's not as easy as I think, jesus dumbass.
Do this:
http://www.space.com/23277-dangerous-asteroids-incredible-technology.html