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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: bones129 on January 02, 2017, 02:50:55 AM
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Here we go guys, back to Allen where we don't fare well. Will this year be different? Will Bill out-Oscar as usual? Or will Oscar out-Oscar all by himself?
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We should win by 3 but if the refs are up to their normal hubbub, we'll lose by 15ish.
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On paper we have similar talent, afraid coaching might be the difference maker in this one
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I don't even watch or listen to this game anymore. At Allen between our nerves and early whistles we always fall behind by fifteen so early. It just isn't any fun, so I don't pay any attention. Also makes it better the next day at the office. Right after we beat TCU in football the first thing one of my staff said to me was in reference to not being able to beat KU in basketball. I told him to knock it off. He is new to my staff.
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I don't even watch or listen to this game anymore. At Allen between our nerves and early whistles we always fall behind by fifteen so early. It just isn't any fun, so I don't pay any attention. Also makes it better the next day at the office. Right after we beat TCU in football the first thing one of my staff said to me was in reference to not being able to beat KU in basketball. I told him to knock it off. He is new to my staff.
Down by double digits by the under 16 TO. Blow our wad cutting the deficit to 10. Lose by 15-25 in a game that is never really in question. The script is well-worn.
:bball:
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Slunk Lucas gets into foul trouble. DJamer and Claws go beserk. Wes keeps Mason, the 4Th Year Phenom, in check, and we win by six. Best chance in a long time.
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I don't even watch or listen to this game anymore. At Allen between our nerves and early whistles we always fall behind by fifteen so early. It just isn't any fun, so I don't pay any attention. Also makes it better the next day at the office. Right after we beat TCU in football the first thing one of my staff said to me was in reference to not being able to beat KU in basketball. I told him to knock it off. He is new to my staff.
Down by double digits by the under 16 TO. Blow our wad cutting the deficit to 10. Lose by 15-25 in a game that is never really in question. The script is well-worn.
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Yup, I'm so jazzed to lose by 15+
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I don't even watch or listen to this game anymore. At Allen between our nerves and early whistles we always fall behind by fifteen so early. It just isn't any fun, so I don't pay any attention. Also makes it better the next day at the office. Right after we beat TCU in football the first thing one of my staff said to me was in reference to not being able to beat KU in basketball. I told him to knock it off. He is new to my staff.
Typical KU Karl.
Now that the "Slavers" are gone Karl lives for the annual Kitty Beatdown at Phog Allen Fieldhouse. When it came time to divvy up this years split season tickets (2 seats split between 4 couples) Karl got first pick. Did he chose the OOC matchup against Stanford? The Big Monday matchup against WVU? Nope, Karl wants to see Kitty Tears.
Come tomorrow afternoon he will take off work around 3pm, pick the kids up from daycare in the used 2007 Honda Odyssey with 170,000 miles he bought 3 years ago (Karla would NOT let him drive the kids around in his 2002 Eclipse he had since undergrad) and drop them off at Karla's parents house at 95th and Lackman on his way to K-10.
Karla will want to eat at Free State before the game but when they get there at 5pm there is a 45 minute wait and the hostess doesn't care how much money Karl spent there in undergrad so Karla gently nudges him out and its on to Johnny's Across the River. After splitting a Great Bambino Pizza and pounding 6 bud lights Karl is ready to rain a barrage of BOOOOOO'S down from section 13a.
When he comes back in the office on Wednesday he will have a huge smile on his face and be content with his life, if only for 1 day.
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We need to start an "The Adventures of KU Karl and Karla" thread/book
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The schedule makers sure didn't do us any favors starting us off at the hardest place to play for our first conference road game. We'll never know the true outcome had this game been played later in the season.
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Lacks the artistry of Dax. Sure we all want more, but leave it to the master.
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We win in lawrence every 12 years but its only been 11 so just keep that in mind when setting expectations for the game.
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anyone can do ku karl and karla
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Unfortunately this is Super Bowl Night at Allen's Boo House, so instead of the usual blue hair golf clap (with the most overrated crowd in college basketball) it'll be an absolute frenzy, a boiling cauldron of hate.
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We will lose, it won't be close. Don't care.
Let's go win Saturday.
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We will lose, it won't be close. Don't care.
we need to lose close.
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I wish I could hear oscar's inspirational "Lose this one close for Sys" speech
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The local watch party is at one of my dog-friendly spots. Might go and pitch everyone on k30nt.
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Bill will let us win to motivate his chickens. Oscar can coach, but doesn't get super talent. This year the talent spread is not.that.great. You skeptical ninnies should paint your privates blue and.fart the KU fight song. Mizzou Morons.have more.spirit than you all. Dammit.be purple, be proud. This is war, no doubting panzies. Believe in the Cats!!!
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The line is even right now :lol:
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Bill will let us win to motivate his chickens. Oscar can coach, but doesn't get super talent. This year the talent spread is not.that.great. You skeptical ninnies should paint your privates blue and.fart the KU fight song. Mizzou Morons.have more.spirit than you all. Dammit.be purple, be proud. This is war, no doubting panzies. Believe in the Cats!!!
I've seen this thing unfold far too often. I can remember the 2 victories (3 sort of) at Allen in my fan lifetime. 1994 when I was a freshman at K-State and 2006 when I was at the game. Winning there in 89 is a vague memory at best. Most of the losses in that span of nearly 30 years have not been close. At all.
I think I'm more optimistic than most, but I'm not going to force myself into believing that some magical upset is going to happen.
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"this is our state, clap clap clap clap-clap"
I just can't bear to watch this play out again
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If we can keep turnovers under 12 and hit 40% from 3 we'll be in the game provided there isn't a 20+ ft discrepancy or something stupid. It doesn't really matter because if it is close French Mason is shooting 2 every possession after the under 4.
KU plays small and their bigs are meh. It's not the usual mismatch [tackle party] in the paint. As long as we don't completely crap the bed shooting like we did against ut and don't completely forget we have DJamer like we did against ut we'll be fine.
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The line is even right now :lol:
I will bet you $3,000 that isn't real and there isn't a sports book in the world that has that posted as a playable wager.
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If we can keep turnovers under 12 and hit 40% from 3 we'll be in the game provided there isn't a 20+ ft discrepancy or something stupid. It doesn't really matter because if it is close French Mason is shooting 2 every possession after the under 4.
KU plays small and their bigs are meh. It's not the usual mismatch [tackle party] in the paint. As long as we don't completely crap the bed shooting like we did against ut and don't completely forget we have DJamer like we did against ut we'll be fine.
Lmao
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Lacks the artistry of Dax. Sure we all want more, but leave it to the master.
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we're going to get rolled and unlike in the past, i don't give a crap. also the real housewives of beverly hills comes on at 8pm and i want to see dorit give eileen crap about her mom dying.
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I'll be asleep before tipoff. These 9p Big 12 games blow. I hope the Cats win.
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Cats need a new Allen strategy, getting all fired up and jittery only fuels the chickens and the chicken house. Need to rope a dope them by coming out like wgaf and just hang around down 8 -12 for most of the game and hope to get scorching hot from three in the last 6 minutes.
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Do not want lead at half under any circumstances.......
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Kenpom says 76-65. I'd take that.
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Do not want lead at half under any circumstances.......
for sure
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what if we were up my 42 at half?
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what if we were up my 42 at half?
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it keeps me up at night tbh
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“They have all these stats and there is a tempo or patience stat and the No. 1 team in the country is Villanova,” K-State coach oscar Weber said Monday. “It’s how many passes per possession and how many assists per field goal, and I guess we’re 11th or 10th in the country with that.
“That will be a key thing for us, to make them guard us, move the basketball, get the inside touches and hopefully that will slow them down a little bit. And we have to make shots. If you make shots, you have a lot better chance to get back on defense.”
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“Last year we were right there a couple of minutes before the half, but they are a team of spurts and that’s why it’s so important to control the momentum and tempo of the game,” Weber said. “It’s not only the environment, it’s their team. I tell our guys you make Bramlage a tough place by how you play. Your intensity, your confidence and your aggressiveness is so important. They (Jayhawks) play at a different level at home, no doubt about it.”
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oscar needs to let the refs know that we will not initiate any contact with their guards at any time, then tell the announcers about it.
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There has been 3 teams I thought could win in Allen - 08, 10 and 12 but this might be the best physical matchup in my memory.
We will still be down by 10+ at the first media time out.
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I can't recall the last time I cared for a K-State basketball game...
Like truly gave a crap when we lost to where it would upset and ruin my day. It's been so long.
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I have found the annual Lawrentucky self-crapping to be far less frustrating when distorted by the auditory lens of Wyatt and Stan. Probably because most of the most devastating moments are punctuated by downright endearing prariespeak like "oh boy" and other hilarious Wyatty things. Stan's incredibly astute insights just frame things in a very unemotional way too. Great combo.
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I'm happy it starts at 9. I might be able to watch the 2nd half. Hopefully I still want to watch.
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chat!
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chat!
chat is cat in french, iirc
HAWKNIGHT @ The ChATROOM 1.3.17
LET'S BRING HOME THE SUNFLOWER!
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the game might be in lawrentucky, but we'll be in the ChATROOM!
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Maurice will be back tonight.
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Maurice will be back tonight.
Thank god!
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Maurice will be back tonight.
The ole 3 game suspension.
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I've made the mistake 3 times (2003, 2009, 2013) of attending the game in AFH. Its stupid.
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Me too bud. I might watch this one in bed tonight. It's on too late.
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The 2009 game was actually not that bad to attend. I mean we were down like 17-0 so even the ku fans cheered when we scored our first bucket. I got a few sarcastic high fives from a few ku karls and was just like, meh, whatev, secretly I hope Lou Colon goes on punching spree.
Go Cats.
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i think I'll be able to stay up late enough to catch an 8pm chat
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I'm actually going to watch it after it's over. :CaliforniaCats: :cool:
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We will get blown out. I'll set the over/under at 21.5 points.
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DJamer will have three fouls at half. 2 before the second tv timeout
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the line is at 12.5
we have a total of 15 points to work with from our 34-19 football score
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I am actually going to watch the local HS Bball game tonight, and my son doesn't even play :ROFL:
I would rather watch 2 HS teams duke it out to see if one of them can score 40 points than watch the cats play at KU :sdeek:
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I've made the mistake 3 times (2003, 2009, 2013) of attending the game in AFH. Its stupid.
04, 05, 06 :ksu: :party: :emawkid:, 07, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 for me
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just found out josh jacksons moms name is apple :lol: and his aunts name is peaches :lol:
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his aunts name is peaches :lol:
:surprised: I knew a peaches who'd have been at the age then to potentially be a college kid's aunt now.
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Karl was up early today; big day. As he fired up the 2001 Honda Accord (Dark Emerald Pearl with tan cloth interior, factory sound preset to 610 and 810 - except for that rough ridin' Keitzman, overdue on a visit to Jiffy Lube and timing built replacement, RKCHK88 on license plate, Williams Fund $50 dollars a year level sticker in left corner rear window, "Beak'Em Hawks" plate on front, Ozark Trail insulated cup with Jayhawk sticker in cup holder) he changed the ringtone on his Iphone 4 to "I'm A Jayhawk" and blasted forth to the office. There was lots to talk about with the Cubiclenista's today: First, he hoped fellow Jayhawk and cubicle mate Chuck (JCCC '92) had completed his annual oscar Weber Meme, and then there was that bullshit from last week with the VP of Sales. As Karl drove by the Meyer's house he noticed they already had their "N" Nebraska flag down and Karl smirked about how football season was over and how it's "a real sport" season now. He laughed to himself as thought about all the "dusty" memorabilia down in Ed Meyer's "Big Red Man Cave".
It was going to be a great day!
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my god.
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:sdeek:
Maurice will be back tonight.
Will it be Clark Kent Bullnuts or Super Bullnuts?
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just found out josh jacksons moms name is apple :lol: and his aunts name is peaches :lol:
What is dad's name? Eater?
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i haven't seen karl for the last week or so. when he popped by my office today, it was very cute when he asked me if we won our bowl game. acting surprised when I said yes, he then inquisitively asked, "oh yeah? who'd you guys play?"
come on karl, we both know exactly what you were doing last wednesday night
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If we can keep turnovers under 12 and hit 40% from 3 we'll be in the game provided there isn't a 20+ ft discrepancy or something stupid. It doesn't really matter because if it is close French Mason is shooting 2 every possession after the under 4.
KU plays small and their bigs are meh. It's not the usual mismatch [tackle party] in the paint. As long as we don't completely crap the bed shooting like we did against ut and don't completely forget we have DJamer like we did against ut we'll be fine.
We are going to try and slow the pace down. The problem with that is eventually they will go on a run with series broken floor buckets. Off Turnovers and Orebs they are going to break us. They are going to hit a couple corner threes in a row and we won't have the fire power to match.
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I hope Karl's timing belt doesn't snap at K-10 and Edgerton Road tonight. Playing with fire. Be the shits to be on the side of the road in the brutal cold, all that JoCo gameday traffic rocketing by, high-induction engine head a mangled mess.
Even with AAA, they'll miss the first half, at minimum, and have to arrange a ride home with a Cubiclenista buddy.
Prolly put the old car on Craig's List, with photos that don't show the spot of Honda rust above the passenger side rear wheel well, and some verbal sleight of hand like "Won't start, possible timing belt. Has another 100,000 miles if fixed. My loss is your gain."
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I think we should start Budke, first time Mason shows ugly hairdo in the paint, Budke tears it off, just to let him know that he aint coming down here, then put in whoever for him. Save DJamer a foul.
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We should start all the ppl who's names we either don't know or wish we didn't.
Save the others for other games.
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I believe and so should you
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I believe and so should you
:cheers: :excited: :ksu: :excited:
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I want to do a KU Karl post, but like, it'll never be good enough ya know.
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The line is even right now :lol:
I will bet you $3,000 that isn't real and there isn't a sports book in the world that has that posted as a playable wager.
I couldn't imagine that it could possibly be hung anywhere at 10 or less... A quick check shows it currently sitting at 13.5
Seems about right.
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I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL LOSE!
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This might be the first time i've been sober for one of these.
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i went in '07 because i was all jacked up on Huggy, probably won't ever go again.
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Been to AFH once, we got killed.. Was not fun :frown:
Also went to a watch party at the wareham one year, pretty sure we were both ranked and everyone was excited for the game..
We got down by like 20 or so and it was the weirdest thing to watch with a group of people.
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I went in 06. I'll probably never go again and call it good.
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Fans at AFH are generally nice to K-Staters, mostly out of a sense of pity. I still can't stand to set foot in that dump, though.
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I've been there twice when Kstate won. But one was so long ago, they only sold out for Kstate and Missouri.
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Don't believe in Santa. Don't believe in the toothfairy. But still believe in the Magic Wiener. Oscar's wish comes true, and we win. Slunk fouls out, and Claws, and Flush have storied night.
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2006 was my first game in AFH. I brought my collapsible flag pole and KSU flag with me. No idea why I did that....we had just been beaten by Nebraska on one of the worst shooting performances I have ever seen. I was so glad I did! Waving that flag after we won was fantastic. Some blue hair started shouting at me about never winning in Bramlage, blah, blah....I didn't care. I was all smiles!
I've never been back.
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Frank Mason is going to go all Melo Trimble on us.
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I went in 06. I'll probably never go again and call it good.
both teams could be undefeated and ranked 1 and 2 and we win and it probably wouldn't top 59-55 in my head. just the perfect combo of party and lol
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I have never been and will be watching from my couch
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Will be peeking over while playing poker tonight. My stream audio into headphones. Not sure.
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I'll consider tonight a win if we keep it within 20.
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I'll consider tonight a win if we keep it within 20.
#moralvictories
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It would be very #oscar for us to win tonite.
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Don't you dare
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I remember in '06 being at the bars when the team got back from Lawrence and showed up. I just remember wondering whether Tyler Hughes should be smoking so much during the season and getting a picture with David Hoskins. Also I think Phil Loadholt was there for some reason.
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I remember in '06 being at the bars when the team got back from Lawrence and showed up. I just remember wondering whether Tyler Hughes should be smoking so much during the season and getting a picture with David Hoskins. Also I think Phil Loadholt was there for some reason.
I was at a house party and Diarra showed up and it was amazing.
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I've been to AFH like 15 times. it smells like a poor persons basement.
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Guys, I think I've entered a parallel universe... One where K-State has no fouls and leads by 5 at the under 16 rather than being down 10+ with all our top players with at least 2-3 fouls
:runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
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We're up by 5. I'm going to bed dreaming of a Wildcat victory. Go State!
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I cant watch or listen but the live stats are telling me that we are going to blow them out of the water.
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We're just plain better than they are
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I have wyatttvision now
let roll tide on these squawk pigs
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Hey Carlton, 1988 just called and is asking for it's shorts back, and 2006 is on line 2 wondering if you have seen it's headband.
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What year are the panty hose from?
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I've been to AFH like 15 times. it smells like a poor persons basement.
This, except probably 20 times.
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Down 6 with six to play, time to heat up :excited:
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Well that was a travel
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Europeans are allowed 3 steps.
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Four rough ridin' steps.
Tom
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Take it to the travel thread, losers.
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Lmao oh well
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Most shameful thing I've witnessed in a long time.
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Take it to the travel thread, losers.
Well played.
Four rough ridin' steps.
Tom
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The Word
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That's Allen field house in a nutshell
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Both fanbases get to be happy tonight. Two Ws no losses.
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Need a meme with the DJamer one step travel next to the mikayluke 4-step nontravel
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crud. what can you do.
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his walk doesn't matter
a Claws 21 footer under 10 seconds for the win, just like we drew it up
these are the x's and o's that make oscar the gentleman genius that he is
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I'm shocked
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Based on what sys said in the kenpom thread, this was the best case scenario.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM3jgkChV6M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM3jgkChV6M)
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What up with ADJC behind the bench tonight?
Tom
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We weren't going to win in OT with Johnson out, but JFC ref what the eff do you get paid to do?
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I believe and so should you
I was right to believe, now I want to murder someone
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the refs were terrible both ways all night and they sure don't have the stones to call that walk gmafb
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Both fanbases get to be happy tonight. Two Ws no losses.
So this is where we do the gE thing of acting like playing well doesn't matter but if we got rolled by 25 we'd all be here for the LOLs
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Man, I am a little less pissed than earlier, but damn. Taking 4 steps is impressive.
If nothing else I didn't want the game to go to OT.
How can these kids even respect these refs when they officiate other games? I know they work games at Bramlage & other Big 12 arenas.
kU being used to bias officiating at Home is their downfall in the NCAA Tourney.
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I turned on the game with two minutes left and got what I deserved.
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FTR, that might be the most absolute phantom fouls called on kstate in afh in the last 2 decades. The Ervin blow by offensive foul, the foul on whoever on the mikayluke 3, at least 3 of the calls on DJamer, the two they called on wade towards the end of the game, and I missed like 10 minutes of the first half.
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margin of loss always matters, of course it does.
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The best is on the phog they were bitching just as much as k-state fans are about the calls, until that no-call travel happened.
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The best is on the phog they were bitching just as much as k-state fans are about the calls, until that no-call travel happened.
the travel was divine. only a churl would have called it.
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I think I ruptured something yelling. How.do you beat refs. Several of us have been telling you all this team is good. Now.do.you believe. Is.so, go.to games and yell your guts out, go hoarse, and dry heave in.excitement. basketball orgasm.
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I think I ruptured something yelling. How.do you beat refs. Several of us have been telling you all this team is good. Now.do.you believe. Is.so, go.to games and yell your guts out, go hoarse, and dry heave in.excitement. basketball orgasm.
You're one weird sock.
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Take it to the travel thread, losers.
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I think I ruptured something yelling. How.do you beat refs. Several of us have been telling you all this team is good. Now.do.you believe. Is.so, go.to games and yell your guts out, go hoarse, and dry heave in.excitement. basketball orgasm.
You're one weird sock.
So are you a oscar hater that is chowing crap tonight?
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BODYBAG
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Outside of a couple of moments their crowd got into it, and a couple of the usual Allen's Boo House moments which are expected. I wasn't sure if I was watching a college basketball game or Deep Blue vs Kasparov.
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Outside of a couple of moments their crowd got into it, and a couple of the usual Allen's Boo House moments which are expected. I wasn't sure if I was watching a college basketball game or Deep Blue vs Kasparov.
Dax, what do.suppose these spoiled.fans would have done.if the Cats had beat KU and the refs?
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Outside of a couple of moments their crowd got into it, and a couple of the usual Allen's Boo House moments which are expected. I wasn't sure if I was watching a college basketball game or Deep Blue vs Kasparov.
Dax, what do.suppose these spoiled.fans would have done.if the Cats had beat KU and the refs?
I only know what one KU fan would have done.
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Karl?
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Karl?
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On paper we have similar talent, afraid coaching might be the difference maker in this one
Just call me mr basketball
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I'm ok w/ the "thems the breaks" comments about the no call, but I hate when I hear a dumb ass say "there were bad calls for both sides". If you you can't see how it's different to have a bad call go against you early in the game vs as time expires, you probably should just listen in on the conversation.
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Top shitty calls:
-Lightfoot tackling our guard and tossing him on the floor, only to shoot FT's for it in the first half
https://twitter.com/C_doubleO_K/status/816474741552939009
-The phantom "And 1" at the end of the game on Claws
-The no call travel
-DJamer's first two bush league fouls.
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Damn. Cats getting a lot of love in the hose job. Every ESPN show running with it.
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Damn. Cats getting a lot of love in the hose job. Every ESPN show running with it.
Outside of the obvious, a Cat win, this game was probably the best possible outcome. Watching KU get mocked and made fun of in the national media and on social media has made for a great 24 hours. Nothing irritates Hawk fans quite like having their legitimacy questioned.
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Top shitty calls:
-Lightfoot tackling our guard and tossing him on the floor, only to shoot FT's for it in the first half
https://twitter.com/C_doubleO_K/status/816474741552939009
-The phantom "And 1" at the end of the game on Claws
-The no call travel
-DJamer's first two bush league fouls.
The foul called on Westicles in the paint when he was leaning back away from the shooter (jackson) with no contact that fran and booger openly mocked and laughed at was pretty good.
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Top shitty calls:
-Lightfoot tackling our guard and tossing him on the floor, only to shoot FT's for it in the first half
https://twitter.com/C_doubleO_K/status/816474741552939009
-The phantom "And 1" at the end of the game on Claws
-The no call travel
-DJamer's first two bush league fouls.
The foul called on Westicles in the paint when he was leaning back away from the shooter (jackson) with no contact that fran and booger openly mocked and laughed at was pretty good.
Yeah that one was ridic
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better for the team in the long run
how loveable are the cats though? glad i have been on team oscar since day 1
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I'm proud of our team. They went through that game, with all the bogus calls, and didn't get a single technical. But Poor Josh Jackson couldn't handle a legit no call and had to get T'd up. :ROFL:
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BTW "Tuesdays At Allen" would make a great title for the next book written by a white former KU basketball player.
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