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Here is the schedule I am very excited for conference play next year seeing as how we came together this year.
https://twitter.com/Big12Conference/status/808781291814387712
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LFG!
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that schedule looks like......run the table and then get heart ripped out by Gundy at the end
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That looks like only 2 other conference opponents will measure up.
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Oh man! Trim calling for 10-2? :woot:
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that schedule looks like......run the table and then get heart ripped out by Gundy at the end
:bawl:
Would take 1-loss likely gets us into the CCG. Have they laid out the tiebreaker rules for next year yet?
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We don't open conference play on the road? :drool:
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that schedule looks like......run the table and then get heart ripped out by Gundy at the end
:bawl:
Would take 1-loss likely gets us into the CCG. Have they laid out the tiebreaker rules for next year yet?
Leave it to the Big 12 to have a three way tie of 8-1 teams at the end of the year
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Oh man! Trim calling for 10-2? :woot:
My Nashville #coverage sources have me thinking Vanderbilt could measure up.
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Good to see not opening on the road. However, I would love to see if we actually had a Texas team at the Bill in November. We always seem to go to Texas during the end of the year for TCU and BU, but then the come up when it is still warm. We know how much the Texas teams hate any real weather, so it takes away a bit of the advantage.
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Opening at conference play at home :thumbs:
Getting @UT early :thumbs:
@OSU moved a little later, maybe some bad weather :crossfingers:
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Good to see not opening on the road. However, I would love to see if we actually had a Texas team at the Bill in November. We always seem to go to Texas during the end of the year for TCU and BU, but then the come up when it is still warm. We know how much the Texas teams hate any real weather, so it takes away a bit of the advantage.
true but we do get TT late, they may have fired Kliff by then
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Fully updated with non-con dates included
http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-17/2017-kansas-state-wildcats-football-schedule.php
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I think we're going to kick a lot of asses next season.
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arkansas again wtf
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arkansas again wtf
:ROFL:
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Fully updated with non-con dates included
http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-17/2017-kansas-state-wildcats-football-schedule.php
I wouldn't 100% trust those non-con games until someone official announces them.
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Fully updated with non-con dates included
http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-17/2017-kansas-state-wildcats-football-schedule.php
I wouldn't 100% trust those non-con games until someone official announces them.
I do believe that Vandy game is already in ink however.
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I'm a little worried about that first game vs. Purple-White.
W or L? :ohno:
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I hope one day we can grow up and stop scheduling fcs teams.
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Fully updated with non-con dates included
http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-17/2017-kansas-state-wildcats-football-schedule.php
I wouldn't 100% trust those non-con games until someone official announces them.
I do believe that Vandy game is already in ink however.
@Vandy is happening but the date could change like Auburn did a few years ago. It is more solid than the other non-cons though
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Way too early prediction: 9-3!
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I hope one day we can grow up and stop scheduling fcs teams.
Is Central Arkansas any worse than Charlotte? I guess we'll find out next year.
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Looks like there is a possibility of moving the Charlotte game from September 23rd to the 9th? They currently have a game against Georgia State on the 9th, so we might add a different opponent. It would allow a bye week before Baylor at home and 9 straight conference games. From Currie's letter:
"In the coming weeks we will have our final home date set – as we will play a non-conference game in LHC Bill Snyder Stadium either September 9 or 23 giving us seven home games in 2017."
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really hope we get Scottie Pippen in attendance!
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I hope one day we can grow up and stop scheduling fcs teams.
Is Central Arkansas any worse than Charlotte? I guess we'll find out next year.
Who are we growing up to be like?
Over half (or more) of P5 schools play FCS opponents. We are going out and playing a P5 OOC opponent every year now, keeping a home game by playing a FCS team is not a problem.
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Fully updated with non-con dates included
http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-17/2017-kansas-state-wildcats-football-schedule.php
I wouldn't 100% trust those non-con games until someone official announces them.
I do believe that Vandy game is already in ink however.
@Vandy is happening but the date could change like Auburn did a few years ago. It is more solid than the other non-cons though
really? KSU @ Vandy kinda smells like a Thursday Night SEC Network special to open the season on 8/31. KSU has an open date on 9/9 so we could prolly move and/or replace Central Ark but Vandy is currently scheduled to be at MTSU (?!?!) and their September/ Early October is loaded.
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I hope one day we can grow up and stop scheduling fcs teams.
Is Central Arkansas any worse than Charlotte? I guess we'll find out next year.
Who are we growing up to be like?
Over half (or more) of P5 schools play FCS opponents. We are going out and playing a P5 OOC opponent every year now, keeping a home game by playing a FCS team is not a problem.
95% of FCS AD's couldn't function without the checks they cash from P5's.
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I hope one day we can grow up and stop scheduling fcs teams.
Is Central Arkansas any worse than Charlotte? I guess we'll find out next year.
Who are we growing up to be like?
Over half (or more) of P5 schools play FCS opponents. We are going out and playing a P5 OOC opponent every year now, keeping a home game by playing a FCS team is not a problem.
We should just play them on the saturday before Thanksgiving
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Texas has never played an fcs school (allegedly)
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I mean its a great schedule for a fanbase dreaming about getting to claim double digit wins without beating a ranked team.
I just thought you guys thought higher of this upcoming squad.
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I hope each and every one is a 11am kick
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I hope each and every one is a 11am kick
I need the September ones at least to be 1pm central/mexico time or later.
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Dream season for cats:
9 reg season wins, lose to the only ranked teams we play, beat some Mountain West runner up in a bowl game to get that 10th.
Complain endlessly that no one in the media talks about the cats.
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Dream season for cats:
9 reg season wins, lose to the only ranked teams we play, beat some Mountain West runner up in a bowl game to get that 10th.
Complain endlessly that no one in the media talks about the cats.
Chingon...
dreams come true.
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Dream season for cats:
9 reg season wins, lose to the only ranked teams we play, beat some Mountain West runner up in a bowl game to get that 10th.
Complain endlessly that no one in the media talks about the cats.
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that schedule looks like......run the table and then get heart ripped out by Gundy at the end
:bawl:
This is EXACTLY what I thought when I first saw it.
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that schedule looks like......run the table and then get heart ripped out by Gundy at the end
:bawl:
This is EXACTLY what I thought when I first saw it.
Ditto, Gundy is going to ruin us
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nice. we can use the iowa state game to sit the starters and heal up for the following week's b12 champy troph event
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I would just love a replay of the 2003 Big 12 championship.
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I would just love a replay of the 2003 Big 12 championship.
Ted Sims ain't walking through that door.
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Opening the Big 12 season vs Baylor isn't good. Would much rather play them later in the season when their lack of depth is forcing them to basically forfeit.
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Baylor will be dog crap next year. Not saying they needed an impact class this year to provide for next year, but they literally have 1 guy committed to come in. They will have zero depth anyways.
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Opening the Big 12 season vs Baylor isn't good. Would much rather play them later in the season when their lack of depth is forcing them to basically forfeit.
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They have 1 commit (as of last week) for the 2017 class.
Zac Smith is terrible... If he's their starter, they wont' go to a bowl next year. .. and Phil Bennett is probably job hunting right about now....
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Nice to see several posters sticking to their scripts despite discussing a new season.
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anyone have a tally of baylor's 2017 commits? just trying to get a ballpark number
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I'm a little worried about that first game vs. Purple-White.
W or L? :ohno:
Depends on who's on top.
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Baylor will be substantially worse at the end of next season vs the start of the season, just like this year. If anyone really doesn't think playing them later in the year vs first game of the conference slate would be significantly easier then the people posting on here lack critical thinking skills.
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I don't think anyone's afraid of them from the get go, SW. You could make this case for almost any other tier 2 program in the big 12. Who would you prefer? TCU, WVU?!!! I sure don't want to start with OU and I like having a layup at the end of the schedule (Iowa State). Goddamn schedule makers!!! :shakesfist:
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The drop off from game one to game nine will be bigger for Baylor than any other team in the conference.
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Opening the Big 12 season vs Baylor isn't good. Would much rather play them later in the season when their lack of depth is forcing them to basically forfeit.
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They have 1 commit (as of last week) for the 2017 class.
Zac Smith is terrible... If he's their starter, they wont' go to a bowl next year. .. and Phil Bennett is probably job hunting right about now....
He already is.
https://twitter.com/footballscoop/status/808707918493315074
All the major assistants will gone. It's going to be completely different program, no Briles holdover like this year. It will take time for the transition and likely some of the guys there now will be gone before games start. In this situation, it's going to be much better to play them early.
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The drop off from game one to game nine will be bigger for Baylor than any other team in the conference.
That's fair I guess, but they play @ Duke and then face OU the week before they face us on the road. They'll already be destroyed by then.
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How are they even going to field a team come week 12 of 13?
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The drop off from game one to game nine will be bigger for Baylor than any other team in the conference.
That's fair I guess, but they play @ Duke and then face OU the week before they face us on the road. They'll already be destroyed by then.
We'll beat them either way. My original point is I wish we had them later.
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It's basically the perfect schedule hand crafted by bowlsby to get us into the playoff
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Gotcha. Just don't think I could have picked a better schedule. Maybe replace Baylor and TCU, but I'm pumped! :ksu:
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I would just love a replay of the 2003 Big 12 championship.
Ted Sims ain't walking through that door.
Thank you Pete. This put a smile on my face. :D
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6-3
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10-2.
Minimum!
2017 Kansas State football schedule
Central Arkansas (Sept. 2)
at Vanderbilt (Sept. 16)
Charlotte (Sept. 23)
Baylor (Sept. 30)
at Texas (Oct. 7)
TCU (Oct. 14)
Oklahoma (Oct. 21)
at Kansas (Oct. 28)
at Texas Tech (Nov. 4)
West Virginia (Nov. 11)
at Oklahoma State (Nov. 18)
Iowa State (Nov. 25)
Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article120698553.html#storylink=cpy
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10-2.
Minimum!
2017 Kansas State football schedule
Central Arkansas (Sept. 2)
at Vanderbilt (Sept. 16)
Charlotte (Sept. 23)
Baylor (Sept. 30)
at Texas (Oct. 7)
TCU (Oct. 14)
Oklahoma (Oct. 21)
at Kansas (Oct. 28)
at Texas Tech (Nov. 4)
West Virginia (Nov. 11)
at Oklahoma State (Nov. 18)
Iowa State (Nov. 25)
Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article120698553.html#storylink=cpy
They confirmed on the K-State Huddlecast that 10-2 is the minimum expectation for 2017. Could be an exciting year!
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That's a very nice schedule. I really don't get Chingon's FCS gripe. Would it make a difference if it was some bottom feeder FBS team like Texas State?
Going on the road and playing a passable P5 opponent is a "good enough" OOC schedule, and there's really no reason to have an OOC schedule any tougher than "good enough," other than fans' fleeting, selfish desires to see entertaining football.
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That's a very nice schedule. I really don't get Chingon's FCS gripe. Would it make a difference if it was some bottom feeder FBS team like Texas State?
Going on the road and playing a passable P5 opponent is a "good enough" OOC schedule, and there's really no reason to have an OOC schedule any tougher than "good enough," other than fans' fleeting, selfish desires to see entertaining football.
I agree completely. I also can't remember the last time Chings said something positive about K-State football or basketball, but then again I'm just a purple kool aid drinker.
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Some ppl just don't like easy wins, dlew. It's weird, I know, but it's whatever.
Also, I don't believe chings has had a positive thought about K-state since possibly 1998 and then he probably turned. :frown:
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I predicted 9-wins at the spring game last year (C'mon Texas Bowl victory :crossfingers: ) and think that next year sets up very nicely :drool:
10-win seasons are one of my favorite things on earth.
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With K-State, I think the levels are below:
0-1 Loss +Conference Champion = Playoff
1 Loss non champ or 2 loss = NY6
I don't think playing a non-con tougher than this changes any of that.
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With K-State, I think the levels are below:
0-1 Loss +Conference Champion = Playoff
1 Loss non champ or 2 loss = NY6
I don't think playing a non-con tougher than this changes any of that.
Yep. K-State adjusted and we now schedule a P5 OOC opponent every season. We will play 2-4 ranked opponents in our league every season. Our scheduling is fine.
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As things stand, the oklahomas are the 2 losses. My gut says either or both of Vandy and W.Virginia could be adequate (>.500), but they could both be inadequate too for all I know (time zones).
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With K-State, I think the levels are below:
0-1 Loss +Conference Champion = Playoff
1 Loss non champ or 2 loss = NY6
I don't think playing a non-con tougher than this changes any of that.
Some of it depends on other conferences, but I think a 12-1 team gets in, even if they aren't conference champ, and even if they are K-State.
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That's a very nice schedule. I really don't get Chingon's FCS gripe. Would it make a difference if it was some bottom feeder FBS team like Texas State?
Going on the road and playing a passable P5 opponent is a "good enough" OOC schedule, and there's really no reason to have an OOC schedule any tougher than "good enough," other than fans' fleeting, selfish desires to see entertaining football.
Can FCS teams be better than the worst FBS team? Sure. But its the intention that bothers me. I think the Big Ten has the right idea.
I don't think I am negative on KSU, in fact I think we are good enough as a program to no longer have to schedule like we did when our program was coming off of decades of misery. KU, ISU and Tech are programs that need to duck good opponents and try to pad wins to reach a bowl game. I mean we are talking about possibly winning the conference next year. If we truly have a team that is great why wouldn't you want to try to grab high-exposure wins? When would be a better time?
I don't think its selfish at all for fans to want to see their teams play interesting OOC opponents or to see entertaining football. In fact is a bit bewildering to me that one would think it is. I think it's more selfish for fans to demand meaningless glorified scrimmages so they can brag to the waitress at BWW about a ten win season three years ago.
I want to see KSU play (and hopefully beat) good teams. I don't like the notion that scheduling Stanford was a bad idea and that if we only scheduled "smarter" this was really a 10 win team. I believe getting 1 high-exposure OOC win is better for the KSU football program than going undefeated OOC for six years in a row against over-matched opponents.
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I did not realize that Charlotte is not an FCS school until just now.
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As things stand, the oklahomas are the 2 losses. My gut says either or both of Vandy and W.Virginia could be adequate (>.500), but they could both be inadequate too for all I know (time zones).
Vandy? Time zones?
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As things stand, the oklahomas are the 2 losses. My gut says either or both of Vandy and W.Virginia could be adequate (>.500), but they could both be inadequate too for all I know (time zones).
Vandy? Time zones?
They're too far away from my gut to know if they'll suck next year or not.
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How much have I missed?? We're playing the 49ers?? Is kaepernick still on that squad????
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That's a very nice schedule. I really don't get Chingon's FCS gripe. Would it make a difference if it was some bottom feeder FBS team like Texas State?
Going on the road and playing a passable P5 opponent is a "good enough" OOC schedule, and there's really no reason to have an OOC schedule any tougher than "good enough," other than fans' fleeting, selfish desires to see entertaining football.
Can FCS teams be better than the worst FBS team? Sure. But its the intention that bothers me. I think the Big Ten has the right idea.
I don't think I am negative on KSU, in fact I think we are good enough as a program to no longer have to schedule like we did when our program was coming off of decades of misery. KU, ISU and Tech are programs that need to duck good opponents and try to pad wins to reach a bowl game. I mean we are talking about possibly winning the conference next year. If we truly have a team that is great why wouldn't you want to try to grab high-exposure wins? When would be a better time?
I don't think its selfish at all for fans to want to see their teams play interesting OOC opponents or to see entertaining football. In fact is a bit bewildering to me that one would think it is. I think it's more selfish for fans to demand meaningless glorified scrimmages so they can brag to the waitress at BWW about a ten win season three years ago.
I want to see KSU play (and hopefully beat) good teams. I don't like the notion that scheduling Stanford was a bad idea and that if we only scheduled "smarter" this was really a 10 win team. I believe getting 1 high-exposure OOC win is better for the KSU football program than going undefeated OOC for six years in a row against over-matched opponents.
Completely agree, plus as a recruit would you rather play Central Arkansas and Charlotte or Stanford and Auburn?
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That's a very nice schedule. I really don't get Chingon's FCS gripe. Would it make a difference if it was some bottom feeder FBS team like Texas State?
Going on the road and playing a passable P5 opponent is a "good enough" OOC schedule, and there's really no reason to have an OOC schedule any tougher than "good enough," other than fans' fleeting, selfish desires to see entertaining football.
Can FCS teams be better than the worst FBS team? Sure. But its the intention that bothers me. I think the Big Ten has the right idea.
I don't think I am negative on KSU, in fact I think we are good enough as a program to no longer have to schedule like we did when our program was coming off of decades of misery. KU, ISU and Tech are programs that need to duck good opponents and try to pad wins to reach a bowl game. I mean we are talking about possibly winning the conference next year. If we truly have a team that is great why wouldn't you want to try to grab high-exposure wins? When would be a better time?
I don't think its selfish at all for fans to want to see their teams play interesting OOC opponents or to see entertaining football. In fact is a bit bewildering to me that one would think it is. I think it's more selfish for fans to demand meaningless glorified scrimmages so they can brag to the waitress at BWW about a ten win season three years ago.
I want to see KSU play (and hopefully beat) good teams. I don't like the notion that scheduling Stanford was a bad idea and that if we only scheduled "smarter" this was really a 10 win team. I believe getting 1 high-exposure OOC win is better for the KSU football program than going undefeated OOC for six years in a row against over-matched opponents.
It is selfish. And silly, stan. And my word, what I would do for an accessible BWW to visit and brag to the waitress about CATS football.
In any event, there's just no practical reason to have an OOC schedule any tougher than what we have. None. Seasons like we expect next year's to be don't come around for K-State all that often, so why put it in jeopardy scheduling a tougher OOC than we need to? Maybe you value just being in those high-profile September games, but to me, they're just an unnecessary risk for a team with playoff aspirations. Washington, with their OOC slate of Rutgers, Idaho, and Portland State, is laughing all the way to the CFP. Meanwhile, OU fans can take solace that they...lost to two good opponents in September. I'm sure they're thrilled.
And not for nothing, but we are going on the road to a 6 or 7 win SEC opponent next year. This isn't the powderpuff schedule of the 90s.
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I want to see KSU play (and hopefully beat) good teams. I don't like the notion that scheduling Stanford was a bad idea and that if we only scheduled "smarter" this was really a 10 win team. I believe getting 1 high-exposure OOC win is better for the KSU football program than going undefeated OOC for six years in a row against over-matched opponents.
FWIW, I do not think Standford was a bad idea. I'm glad that we have finally moved to regularly scheduled home and homes with P5 schools. I do think that our athletic department/football program needs the other 2 guaranteed OOC home games and that's going to mean 1 FCS and 1 low level FBS. I'm fine with that and it has absolutely nothing to do with guaranteed wins, maximizing football home games for revenue is a must for K-State.
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Well, as a recruit, you already know that there's going to be at least one P5 opponent on your non-con schedule going to K-State. Then, as a 2nd year player you get to look forward to possibly catching some time on the field vs a pud opponent and showcasing your skills. Some of you are over thinking this.
FWIW, I don't know anyone who was upset by us having Stanford on the schedule. More excited than anything. They were also excited to get this team some wins heading back home and gaining momentum for conference play.
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That's a very nice schedule. I really don't get Chingon's FCS gripe. Would it make a difference if it was some bottom feeder FBS team like Texas State?
Going on the road and playing a passable P5 opponent is a "good enough" OOC schedule, and there's really no reason to have an OOC schedule any tougher than "good enough," other than fans' fleeting, selfish desires to see entertaining football.
Can FCS teams be better than the worst FBS team? Sure. But its the intention that bothers me. I think the Big Ten has the right idea.
I don't think I am negative on KSU, in fact I think we are good enough as a program to no longer have to schedule like we did when our program was coming off of decades of misery. KU, ISU and Tech are programs that need to duck good opponents and try to pad wins to reach a bowl game. I mean we are talking about possibly winning the conference next year. If we truly have a team that is great why wouldn't you want to try to grab high-exposure wins? When would be a better time?
I don't think its selfish at all for fans to want to see their teams play interesting OOC opponents or to see entertaining football. In fact is a bit bewildering to me that one would think it is. I think it's more selfish for fans to demand meaningless glorified scrimmages so they can brag to the waitress at BWW about a ten win season three years ago.
I want to see KSU play (and hopefully beat) good teams. I don't like the notion that scheduling Stanford was a bad idea and that if we only scheduled "smarter" this was really a 10 win team. I believe getting 1 high-exposure OOC win is better for the KSU football program than going undefeated OOC for six years in a row against over-matched opponents.
I don't have a problem nixing FCS teams. If we play FIU instead of Missouri St, I could care less. I would have a problem with playing OU's unnecessary schedule and missing the playoffs because of it. Scheduling like we used to is already over with Stanford/Vandy/Mississippi St.
I don't care at all about scheduling Stanford being the difference between 8 or 9 wins. I care about the difference between the playoffs and a NY6 or an NY6 and the Alamo. Everything else is just a consolation prize.
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That's a very nice schedule. I really don't get Chingon's FCS gripe. Would it make a difference if it was some bottom feeder FBS team like Texas State?
Going on the road and playing a passable P5 opponent is a "good enough" OOC schedule, and there's really no reason to have an OOC schedule any tougher than "good enough," other than fans' fleeting, selfish desires to see entertaining football.
Can FCS teams be better than the worst FBS team? Sure. But its the intention that bothers me. I think the Big Ten has the right idea.
I don't think I am negative on KSU, in fact I think we are good enough as a program to no longer have to schedule like we did when our program was coming off of decades of misery. KU, ISU and Tech are programs that need to duck good opponents and try to pad wins to reach a bowl game. I mean we are talking about possibly winning the conference next year. If we truly have a team that is great why wouldn't you want to try to grab high-exposure wins? When would be a better time?
I don't think its selfish at all for fans to want to see their teams play interesting OOC opponents or to see entertaining football. In fact is a bit bewildering to me that one would think it is. I think it's more selfish for fans to demand meaningless glorified scrimmages so they can brag to the waitress at BWW about a ten win season three years ago.
I want to see KSU play (and hopefully beat) good teams. I don't like the notion that scheduling Stanford was a bad idea and that if we only scheduled "smarter" this was really a 10 win team. I believe getting 1 high-exposure OOC win is better for the KSU football program than going undefeated OOC for six years in a row against over-matched opponents.
It is selfish. And silly, stan. And my word, what I would do for an accessible BWW to visit and brag to the waitress about CATS football.
In any event, there's just no practical reason to have an OOC schedule any tougher than what we have. None. Seasons like we expect next year's to be don't come around for K-State all that often, so why put it in jeopardy scheduling a tougher OOC than we need to? Maybe you value just being in those high-profile September games, but to me, they're just an unnecessary risk for a team with playoff aspirations. Washington, with their OOC slate of Rutgers, Idaho, and Portland State, is laughing all the way to the CFP. Meanwhile, OU fans can take solace that they...lost to two good opponents in September. I'm sure they're thrilled.
And not for nothing, but we are going on the road to a 6 or 7 win SEC opponent next year. This isn't the powderpuff schedule of the 90s.
OU fans who complain about not getting into the playoff because of their schedule are delusional. OU didn't deserve to sniff the playoffs. They beat (maybe) 2 good teams this year. I know I have a different underlying opinion on this than most: I think a playoff spot should be earned, but I think many see it a something that is lost. OU didn't miss out on a chance to get into the playoffs, they didn't win enough games to earn it.
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Whether OU deserved it or not is irrelevant to me. They would've gotten it if they played our schedule. If we made the national title game after the 2012 season, I couldn't care less that Alabama was better than both us and Notre Dame.
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Whether OU deserved it or not is irrelevant to me. They would've gotten it if they played our schedule. If we made the national title game after the 2012 season, I couldn't care less that Alabama was better than both us and Notre Dame.
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OU fans who complain about not getting into the playoff because of their schedule are delusional. OU didn't deserve to sniff the playoffs. They beat (maybe) 2 good teams this year. I know I have a different underlying opinion on this than most: I think a playoff spot should be earned, but I think many see it a something that is lost. OU didn't miss out on a chance to get into the playoffs, they didn't win enough games to earn it.
I don't know if they're delusional or not. You can't win a NC without a ticket to the CFP -- so just getting there is the goal. A pillowy soft OOC schedule was good enough for Washington to get in. If UW had to play Ohio State and Houston in the OOC would they still be 11-1 and in the CFP? Maybe, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Not to mention, SOS-wise, going forward, a Big 12 playoff contender will (likely) have played one of the top two teams in the conference twice -- that's at least 10 P5 opponents on your conference schedule alone. Ohio State and Alabama, by comparison played 10 P5 teams total this season. Clemson and UW played 11. Clemson (South Carolina State), UW (Portland State) and Alabama (Chatanooga) all played FCS opponents this year too fwiw.
Anyhow, I think (and I imagine you'd agree) that there's a balance to be struck between OU's 2016 schedule and Washington's 2016 schedule. I think K-State's schedule next year strikes that balance well enough. I understand the aesthetics of the FCS game irks you, but to me, I view Central Arkansas as the practical equivalent of a San Jose, Idaho, or New Mexico State.
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We're playing an SEC bowl team on the road and we're having a discussion about how easy our schedule is? Man, gE is as reliable as a Rolex. Times may change but poster scripts are always there, like a warm blanket on a cold night.
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We're playing an SEC bowl team on the road and we're having a discussion about how easy our schedule is? Man, gE is as reliable as a Rolex. Times may change but poster scripts are always there, like a warm blanket on a cold night.
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We're playing an SEC bowl team on the road and we're having a discussion about how easy our schedule is? Man, gE is as reliable as a Rolex. Times may change but poster scripts are always there, like a warm blanket on a cold night.
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Whether OU deserved it or not is irrelevant to me. They would've gotten it if they played our schedule. If we made the national title game after the 2012 season, I couldn't care less that Alabama was better than both us and Notre Dame.
That's why I said:
"I know I have a different underlying opinion on this than most: I think a playoff spot should be earned, but I think many see it a something that is lost. "
I get it, I do. It would have been great to get in in 2012.
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I would just love a replay of the 2003 Big 12 championship.
Ted Sims ain't walking through that door.
One of my favorite 'Cats of all time.
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As things stand, the oklahomas are the 2 losses. My gut says either or both of Vandy and W.Virginia could be adequate (>.500), but they could both be inadequate too for all I know (time zones).
If our team is actually pretty good next year, we will beat Oklahoma State. We will probably still lose to OU, though.
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As things stand, the oklahomas are the 2 losses. My gut says either or both of Vandy and W.Virginia could be adequate (>.500), but they could both be inadequate too for all I know (time zones).
If our team is actually pretty good next year, we will beat Oklahoma State. We will probably still lose to OU, though.
Objection, relevance.
I considered OSU not measuring up, mainly b/c of the vague stuff I'd heard about Gundy to Baylor, in that it could mean maybe there's strife or that Gundy knows his OSU squad will suck next year. But as that all fizzled out, I assume for now they'll be fine.
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I have to note that there are better things then spotlight games in September. They are the spotlight games that come up in October and even November. Those are pretty awesome and garner far more attention with recruits and casual fans around the nation.
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As things stand, the oklahomas are the 2 losses. My gut says either or both of Vandy and W.Virginia could be adequate (>.500), but they could both be inadequate too for all I know (time zones).
If our team is actually pretty good next year, we will beat Oklahoma State. We will probably still lose to OU, though.
Objection, relevance.
I considered OSU not measuring up, mainly b/c of the vague stuff I'd heard about Gundy to Baylor, in that it could mean maybe there's strife or that Gundy knows his OSU squad will suck next year. But as that all fizzled out, I assume for now they'll be fine.
I don't think Gundy has it anymore. He has barely managed to hang on for victory against some pretty substandard KSU teams these past few years.
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I have to note that there are better things then spotlight games in September. They are the spotlight games that come up in October and even November. Those are pretty awesome and garner far more attention with recruits and casual fans around the nation.
link?
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As things stand, the oklahomas are the 2 losses. My gut says either or both of Vandy and W.Virginia could be adequate (>.500), but they could both be inadequate too for all I know (time zones).
If our team is actually pretty good next year, we will beat Oklahoma State. We will probably still lose to OU, though.
Objection, relevance.
I considered OSU not measuring up, mainly b/c of the vague stuff I'd heard about Gundy to Baylor, in that it could mean maybe there's strife or that Gundy knows his OSU squad will suck next year. But as that all fizzled out, I assume for now they'll be fine.
I don't think Gundy has it anymore. He has barely managed to hang on for victory against some pretty substandard KSU teams these past few years.
Oh, Gundy has been sashaying around telling anybody that will listen that he is better than what T. Boone deserves but if the CMU loss this year couldn't sink him (and it didn't) I don't see it happening.
While we are on the topic of OSU, why in the sam hell are they playing at Southern Alabama? In the same season they are going to Pitt?!?!
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@ Vandy and two puds is a perfect non-con. what is wrong with some of you?
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@ Vandy and two puds is a perfect non-con. what is wrong with some of you?
Nothing at all. Enjoy Nashville, folks! :cheers:
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@ Vandy and two puds is a perfect non-con. what is wrong with some of you?
Cucks
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That's a very nice schedule. I really don't get Chingon's FCS gripe. Would it make a difference if it was some bottom feeder FBS team like Texas State?
Going on the road and playing a passable P5 opponent is a "good enough" OOC schedule, and there's really no reason to have an OOC schedule any tougher than "good enough," other than fans' fleeting, selfish desires to see entertaining football.
Can FCS teams be better than the worst FBS team? Sure. But its the intention that bothers me. I think the Big Ten has the right idea.
I don't think I am negative on KSU, in fact I think we are good enough as a program to no longer have to schedule like we did when our program was coming off of decades of misery. KU, ISU and Tech are programs that need to duck good opponents and try to pad wins to reach a bowl game. I mean we are talking about possibly winning the conference next year. If we truly have a team that is great why wouldn't you want to try to grab high-exposure wins? When would be a better time?
I don't think its selfish at all for fans to want to see their teams play interesting OOC opponents or to see entertaining football. In fact is a bit bewildering to me that one would think it is. I think it's more selfish for fans to demand meaningless glorified scrimmages so they can brag to the waitress at BWW about a ten win season three years ago.
I want to see KSU play (and hopefully beat) good teams. I don't like the notion that scheduling Stanford was a bad idea and that if we only scheduled "smarter" this was really a 10 win team. I believe getting 1 high-exposure OOC win is better for the KSU football program than going undefeated OOC for six years in a row against over-matched opponents.
I don't have a problem nixing FCS teams. If we play FIU instead of Missouri St, I could care less. I would have a problem with playing OU's unnecessary schedule and missing the playoffs because of it. Scheduling like we used to is already over with Stanford/Vandy/Mississippi St.
I don't care at all about scheduling Stanford being the difference between 8 or 9 wins. I care about the difference between the playoffs and a NY6 or an NY6 and the Alamo. Everything else is just a consolation prize.
Whether OU deserved it or not is irrelevant to me. They would've gotten it if they played our schedule. If we made the national title game after the 2012 season, I couldn't care less that Alabama was better than both us and Notre Dame.
I usually give people the benefit of the doubt when they said "I could care less" but meant "I couldn't care less"
Like, maybe they heard it wrong once and just started saying it that way. Or, maybe they'd never thought about what the saying means.
Seeing this, juxtaposed by only a few fleeting moments and posts, sickens me beyond words. May the lord have mercy on your soul, ChiCat.
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Sometimes I reread and catch myself Herr, sometimes not so much