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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: DQ12 on December 07, 2016, 02:19:29 PM
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I ventured over to Texags.com (so you don't have to) to engage in what I expected to be some pretty civil discourse about our upcoming game. Maybe even razz one another as fans sometimes do before big games. Upon reading some of their messages, I'm appalled at their tone and disrespect directed against Kansas State and especially against Coach LHC Bill Snyder. I used to respect the Aggies because of their agriculture tradition, band, and reputation for service and patriotism. My little one, for whatever reason, likes them a ton too (though I don't think he really understands much about them) and I got him a 12th man t-shirt. After a short visit to Texags, I think they're scum and I'll root against them forever. Little one's t-shirt is going in the garbage. "12th man"? More like "trash can."
Here's example 1(a):
K-State had a few great seasons in the early days of the Big XII as Nebraska and Colorado waned as the powers of the north division. He couldn't recruit against Mack and OU in Texas, so he went the JUCO route. He still maintained a solid program for a lot of years because of his division. (We ruined his only legit shot at a national title in the 1998 CCG.)
Now that he has to play Oklahoma, Okie Lite, a (formerly) resurgent Baylor, TCU every year, not so much. End result has been Kansas State draws tougher bowl slots from the big 10 and SEC. 8-4 in the Big XII is not the same as 8-4 in the SEC or the big 10.
His teams are always well-coached and disciplined, but lack the talent, speed and depth to routinely go toe-to-toe with physically superior teams.
Just reading that makes me sick. Any ways, EMAW!!! Screw A&M!!!
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that is not disrespect. it's the hard truth. no one here can argue with anything that the a&m poster said. i won't allow it.
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Listen if we sit here and passively roll over while these people disparage The Legend, HCBS, then I don't think we can call ourselves true Cats. I may end up having to move to TOS because if they show up here and start spouting off that nonsense, the f bombs might start flying. Just a fair warning.
Look at this:
We kill KSU. I know how this team operates.
What the heck
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Ever heard of a little something called the 1st amendment, "moderator" pissclams?
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Listen if we sit here and passively roll over while these people disparage The Legend, HCBS, then I don't think we can call ourselves true Cats. I may end up having to move to TOS because if they show up here and start spouting off that nonsense, the f bombs might start flying. Just a fair warning.
Look at this:
We kill KSU. I know how this team operates.
What the heck
not disrespect
listen. if anyone has questions about what constitutes disrespect, whether it be from our fans or theirs, just pm me and i'll rule on it for you.
don't freak out if it takes me a while to get back to you with a ruling, either. sometimes it takes a while for me to fully synthesize the comment.
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agree with the original poster, that aint right what they are saying
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Ever heard of a little something called the 1st amendment, "moderator" pissclams?
of course i believe in the bill of rights but i also know that we want to be respected. the best way to gain respect is to GIVE IT.
running your mouth off against your opponent is bad form and not the k-state way.
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These guys use university funds to support an entire army who basically sit around and read stuff renocat posts and then do those things to each other, so they shouldn't be casting any stones.
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I didn't mean for this thread to turn into some kind of p*$$*ng match with the Aggies. Just frustrated and appalled to be reading this stuff from a fanbase I USED to really respect. I wonder if there was a way to email some of the things they're saying to The Legend to give the team some more motivation? EMAW!!
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LHC Bill Snyder turns out PEOPLE like Colin Klein. Sumlin turns out people like Johny Manziel. CASE CLOSED
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My problem with the Aggie is he does not actually know what he is talking about. Snyder started recruiting Juco kids because he could not compete with Mack Brown and OU in Texas for kids. Utter BS. Snyder was recruiting JC kids from the outset at KSU, not just after Mack was hired.
Heck, UT and aTm struggled to recruit top tier talent in Texas until the Big 12 was formed (kids went to OU, LSU, Pac-10, and elsewhere) because the Texas schools were not considered legit until the joined the Big 12. However, it wasn't like KSU was kicking but for HS kids in Texas before that. They did okay. They targeted marginal HS kids who were in for a position change and JC kids looking for a shot.
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Realistically, it's probably just some of their younger fans lashing out because we're historically a little better than them.
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Look let's not fight each other and let's not disrespect aTm. Look, they've historically woefully underachieved as an athletic department given their demographics, they've got one of . . . if not the biggest case of little dude syndrome in college athletics and now their administration wants to graduate 10,000 plus students a year. Effectively making aTm America's "human wave" university.
Don't disrespect, pity.
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They aren't the best program in Texas, but they are still top 5 and that warrants some respect. Texas is a big state, guys.
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I don't think anyone is arguing that Texas A&M isn't a top 5 program in the State of Texas :dunno:
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I don't think anyone is arguing that Texas A&M isn't a top 5 program in the State of Texas :dunno:
It warrants some respect.
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that is not disrespect. it's the hard truth. no one here can argue with anything that the a&m poster said. i won't allow it.
Cadet Pissclams, outed.
This is the first image that comes up when googling "Cadet Pissclams":
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F_FtU3JnxMZfg%2FTT8xkapENaI%2FAAAAAAAAAQ4%2FST1GqPGA51U%2Fs1600%2FAgs%2B%2525281039%252529.JPG&hash=a8ad9e4bce1b1536066107550cd1536c56cb261c)
Doesn't say whether he's the 'top' or 'bottom' in linked photo, though.
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If I know 'clams like I think I do then he's the bottom
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I don't think anyone is arguing that Texas A&M isn't a top 5 program in the State of Texas :dunno:
It warrants some respect.
I rank programs based on how recently they played in a BCS/NY6 bowl game. I'm pretty sure A&M is better than 5th in Texas guys.
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Even the Arkansas fans were more dignified than these A&M dirtbags but our little millennial pissclams wants everyone to be treated equally regardless of their actions.
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I don't think anyone is arguing that Texas A&M isn't a top 5 program in the State of Texas :dunno:
It warrants some respect.
I rank programs based on how recently they played in a BCS/NY6 bowl game. I'm pretty sure A&M is better than 5th in Texas guys.
Programs better than 5th are still top 5 programs. I would hesitate to rank them higher than 4th, though. We have to wait and see just how far Baylor falls.
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I guess they are 5th. UT, TCU, Baylor, and Houston have all played in elite bowls more recently than aTm.
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Those posts are appalling, but I'm sure they represent the minority of A&M fans. I'm concerned Dlew started this thread to begin some kind of class warfare and laud K-State grads' intellectual and financial superiority over these poor souls who could not get into Texas and resort to lowbrow message board posting to vent their frustrations. I, for one, am not taking the bait.
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that is not disrespect. it's the hard truth. no one here can argue with anything that the a&m poster said. i won't allow it.
Cadet Pissclams, outed.
This is the first image that comes up when googling "Cadet Pissclams":
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F_FtU3JnxMZfg%2FTT8xkapENaI%2FAAAAAAAAAQ4%2FST1GqPGA51U%2Fs1600%2FAgs%2B%2525281039%252529.JPG&hash=a8ad9e4bce1b1536066107550cd1536c56cb261c)
Doesn't say whether he's the 'top' or 'bottom' in linked photo, though.
Is he the white dude?
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that is not disrespect. it's the hard truth. no one here can argue with anything that the a&m poster said. i won't allow it.
Cadet Pissclams, outed.
This is the first image that comes up when googling "Cadet Pissclams":
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F_FtU3JnxMZfg%2FTT8xkapENaI%2FAAAAAAAAAQ4%2FST1GqPGA51U%2Fs1600%2FAgs%2B%2525281039%252529.JPG&hash=a8ad9e4bce1b1536066107550cd1536c56cb261c)
Doesn't say whether he's the 'top' or 'bottom' in linked photo, though.
At first I thought the guy in the background is standing on what appears to now be a radiator was floating in mid air and I was pretty :sdeek:
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i thought he'd been given an atomic wedgie and was suspended on a coat hook or something :dunno:
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When the aggies were in the Big 12 they finished with an alltime record ahead of KU, Missouri and Baylor. And they were almost as good as their rivals but ended up the third best Texas school in the big 12. Still they should be proud of that, so give them respect.
All-time Intraconference Records
1. TEXAS _____________________________ 90-30 (.750)
2. Oklahoma___________________________ 86-34 (.717)
3. Nebraska____________________________ 80-40 (.667)
4. Kansas State _________________________ 69-51 (.575)
5. Texas Tech __________________________ 68-52 (.567)
6.Texas A&M _________________________ 64-56 (.533)
7. Colorado____________________________ 60-60 (.500)
8. Missouri ____________________________ 58-62 (.483)
9. Oklahoma State ______________________ 55-65 (.458)
10.Kansas______________________________ 36-84 (.300)
11.Iowa State ___________________________ 34-86 (.283)
12.Baylor ______________________________18-102 (.150)
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There's no shame finishing behind TTech, unfair recruiting advantage. Lubbock recruits itself, practically.
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crap man, Lubbock is a megaregion anchor city
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K-State had a few great seasons in the early days of the Big XII as Nebraska and Colorado waned as the powers of the north division. He couldn't recruit against Mack and OU in Texas, so he went the JUCO route. He still maintained a solid program for a lot of years because of his division. (We ruined his only legit shot at a national title in the 1998 CCG.)
Now that he has to play Oklahoma, Okie Lite, a (formerly) resurgent Baylor, TCU every year, not so much. End result has been Kansas State draws tougher bowl slots from the big 10 and SEC. 8-4 in the Big XII is not the same as 8-4 in the SEC or the big 10.
His teams are always well-coached and disciplined, but lack the talent, speed and depth to routinely go toe-to-toe with physically superior teams.
I need a more provocative quote than this to get fired up about an underachieving university and fanbase. This quote is largely factual.
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K-State had a few great seasons in the early days of the Big XII as Nebraska and Colorado waned as the powers of the north division. He couldn't recruit against Mack and OU in Texas, so he went the JUCO route. He still maintained a solid program for a lot of years because of his division. (We ruined his only legit shot at a national title in the 1998 CCG.)
Now that he has to play Oklahoma, Okie Lite, a (formerly) resurgent Baylor, TCU every year, not so much. End result has been Kansas State draws tougher bowl slots from the big 10 and SEC. 8-4 in the Big XII is not the same as 8-4 in the SEC or the big 10.
His teams are always well-coached and disciplined, but lack the talent, speed and depth to routinely go toe-to-toe with physically superior teams.
I need a more provocative quote than this to get fired up about an underachieving university and fanbase. This quote is largely factual.
Exactly. Who cares? A lot of it is true, or just focuses on some bad parts (that are still true) ignoring some of the good parts.
If anything it's self depreciating coming from an A&M fan. If that's what they think of us since the start of the B12, imagine what they must think of their easily inferior program...
I think this will be an enjoyable bowl since we will be able to commiserate during the game. Even if we are a bit better of a program overall, Texas A&M and Kansas State occupy the same rung in the CFB ladder.
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Pfft. Your posting to the TX state champs, bro.
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Wow. Some fake Wildcats are outing themselves in this thread. Didn't know we had so many Snyder haters on this forum but I guess here we are.
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Wow. Some fake Wildcats are outing themselves in this thread. Didn't know we had so many Snyder haters on this forum but I guess here we are.
They're not true fans. It's sad but as far as I can tell KSU is down to only a handful of true fans. Luckily I am one of them, but I'm afraid I can't say the same for most on this board.
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WE OWN TEXAS EMAW!
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that is not disrespect. it's the hard truth. no one here can argue with anything that the a&m poster said. i won't allow it.
Wrong. We had another "legit".... NC shot in '12 and blew it with the loss to Baylor. Other than that...spot on...
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that is not disrespect. it's the hard truth. no one here can argue with anything that the a&m poster said. i won't allow it.
Wrong. We had another "legit".... NC shot in '12 and blew it with the loss to Baylor. Other than that...spot on...
consider yourself bookcat'd 'clams
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K-State had a few great seasons in the early days of the Big XII as Nebraska and Colorado waned as the powers of the north division. He couldn't recruit against Mack and OU in Texas, so he went the JUCO route. He still maintained a solid program for a lot of years because of his division. (We ruined his only legit shot at a national title in the 1998 CCG.)
Now that he has to play Oklahoma, Okie Lite, a (formerly) resurgent Baylor, TCU every year, not so much. End result has been Kansas State draws tougher bowl slots from the big 10 and SEC. 8-4 in the Big XII is not the same as 8-4 in the SEC or the big 10.
His teams are always well-coached and disciplined, but lack the talent, speed and depth to routinely go toe-to-toe with physically superior teams.
I need a more provocative quote than this to get fired up about an underachieving university and fanbase. This quote is largely factual.
Exactly. Who cares? A lot of it is true, or just focuses on some bad parts (that are still true) ignoring some of the good parts.
If anything it's self depreciating coming from an A&M fan. If that's what they think of us since the start of the B12, imagine what they must think of their easily inferior program...
I think this will be an enjoyable bowl since we will be able to commiserate during the game. Even if we are a bit better of a program overall, Texas A&M and Kansas State occupy the same rung in the CFB ladder.
"self-depreciating"...how very wacky of you
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that is not disrespect. it's the hard truth. no one here can argue with anything that the a&m poster said. i won't allow it.
Wrong. We had another "legit".... NC shot in '12 and blew it with the loss to Baylor. Other than that...spot on...
consider yourself bookcat'd 'clams
he just double checkmated me
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that is not disrespect. it's the hard truth. no one here can argue with anything that the a&m poster said. i won't allow it.
Cadet Pissclams, outed.
This is the first image that comes up when googling "Cadet Pissclams":
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F_FtU3JnxMZfg%2FTT8xkapENaI%2FAAAAAAAAAQ4%2FST1GqPGA51U%2Fs1600%2FAgs%2B%2525281039%252529.JPG&hash=a8ad9e4bce1b1536066107550cd1536c56cb261c)
Doesn't say whether he's the 'top' or 'bottom' in linked photo, though.
a lot of pain and anguish in those eyes.
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Is that guy in the background... hanging from the wall?
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K-State had a few great seasons in the early days of the Big XII as Nebraska and Colorado waned as the powers of the north division. He couldn't recruit against Mack and OU in Texas, so he went the JUCO route. He still maintained a solid program for a lot of years because of his division. (We ruined his only legit shot at a national title in the 1998 CCG.)
Now that he has to play Oklahoma, Okie Lite, a (formerly) resurgent Baylor, TCU every year, not so much. End result has been Kansas State draws tougher bowl slots from the big 10 and SEC. 8-4 in the Big XII is not the same as 8-4 in the SEC or the big 10.
His teams are always well-coached and disciplined, but lack the talent, speed and depth to routinely go toe-to-toe with physically superior teams.
I need a more provocative quote than this to get fired up about an underachieving university and fanbase. This quote is largely factual.
Lot of facts, I agree, but the bolded part is just plain wrong.
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K-State had a few great seasons in the early days of the Big XII as Nebraska and Colorado waned as the powers of the north division. He couldn't recruit against Mack and OU in Texas, so he went the JUCO route. He still maintained a solid program for a lot of years because of his division. (We ruined his only legit shot at a national title in the 1998 CCG.)
Now that he has to play Oklahoma, Okie Lite, a (formerly) resurgent Baylor, TCU every year, not so much. End result has been Kansas State draws tougher bowl slots from the big 10 and SEC. 8-4 in the Big XII is not the same as 8-4 in the SEC or the big 10.
His teams are always well-coached and disciplined, but lack the talent, speed and depth to routinely go toe-to-toe with physically superior teams.
I need a more provocative quote than this to get fired up about an underachieving university and fanbase. This quote is largely factual.
Lot of facts, I agree, but the bolded part is just plain wrong.
Historical Revisionism, Aggie-style.