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Cats check in at No. 4
http://bit.ly/90E7U7
Hawks a pathetic No. 5.
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Kansas State Wildcats
At the Jordan Brand Classic's International Game, I found K-State's perfect replacement for departed Puerto Rican point guard Denis Clemente: 17-year-old Carmelo Betancourt Carbonell, from the PR's Bucaplaa Basketball Club. Bounce Mag called Carbonell the "most playground" player in that game, which was an accurate description -- he led his team in assists, turnovers and general showboating. But he has the skills to be a solid college point guard in a more controlled setting, and seems like a logical candidate to continue the Puerto Rico-to-central-Kansas pipeline. In the meantime, the 'Cats are fine in the backcourt, with the league's Player of the Year favorite, Jacob Pullen, running the point and ultra-efficient sophomore Rodney McGruder ready to step up and be a solid two-guard. Their frontcourt army of Curtis Kelly, Jamar Samuels, Dominique Sutton, Wally Judge and Jordan Henriquez-Roberts is among the best in the country, too.
:love:
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Why is he already calling KU's backcourt of Taylor and Selby one of the best in the nation? For the most part, Taylor was pretty much garbage last season and he didn't live up to his expectations. As for Selby, he has yet to play one minute of college basketball. Very premature claim imo.
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Love these posts made on the Phog before this article came out.
KSU: one of the top frontcourts nationally? I think not.
KSU is not a top 6 team.
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with the league's Player of the Year favorite, Jacob Pullen,
Whoever wrote that is an idiot, the Morris twin is best player. Oh, maybe benj meant Morris was best returning player, while Jake is just the best player.
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Cats check in at No. 4
http://bit.ly/90E7U7
:bong:
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i know, he looks like he plays exactly like clemente. ar-t had better stats in the mexico tourney though, despite being younger.
http://www.sportingpulse.com/team_info.cgi?action=PSTATS&client=1-4063-74079-73769-9111297&pID=190277988&pname=Carmelo%20Betancourt%20Carbonell&news_task=DETAIL
http://www.sportingpulse.com/team_info.cgi?action=PSTATS&client=1-4063-74079-73769-9111297&pID=190335282&pname=Angel%20Daniel%20Rodriguez%20Tricoche&news_task=DETAIL
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Luke Winn has been pumping love for K-State a lot this past year. Now he's throwing recruiting ideas our way. Gotta say, love the way this kid plays too. Hopefully we can make it happen and not someone closer to home like Miami.
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Luke Winn has been pumping love for K-State a lot this past year. Now he's throwing recruiting ideas our way. Gotta say, love the way this kid plays too. Hopefully we can make it happen and not someone closer to home like Miami.
"Ending Fart Sequence" <-- robot voice
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Their frontcourt army of Curtis Kelly, Jamar Samuels, Dominique Sutton, Wally Judge and Jordan Henriquez-Roberts is among the best in the country, too.
They didn't even mention Freddy.
:love:
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Good job, guys... now let's see if you're ranked top five next year after losing Pullen, Sutton, and Kelly.
:thumbsup:
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Good job, guys... now let's see if you're ranked top five next year after losing Pullen, Sutton, and Kelly.
well, that's it. might as well close ksufans/goEMAW up, because we've won.
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Good job, guys... now let's see if you're ranked top five next year after losing Pullen, Sutton, and Kelly.
:thumbsup:
I'm not even sure 2 of those guys will be starters, so not sure I get your point.
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Good job, guys... now let's see if you're ranked top five next year after losing Pullen, Sutton, and Kelly.
:thumbsup:
I'm not even sure 2 of those guys will be starters, so not sure I get your point.
Meh, if we are a mid major by that time it won't matter anyway. Next year is quite possibly the last year of meaningful KSU sports, so let's just try and enjoy the 2010-2011 year and not worry about the fact that we are shutting down the site when we are a mid major.
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Jeff Goodman's Preseason Top 25
http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/College-Hoops-Preseason-Top-25-for-2010-11-051010 (http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/College-Hoops-Preseason-Top-25-for-2010-11-051010)
5. KANSAS STATE
Record: 29-8 (Elite Eight)
Lose: Denis Clemente, Luis Colon, Chris Merriewether
Key Returnees: Jacob Pullen, Curtis Kelly, Jamar Samuels, Dominique Sutton, Rodney McGruder, Wally Judge, Jordan Henriquez-Roberts
Newcomers: Freddy Asprilla, Shane Southwell, Will Spradling
The Wildcats will certainly take a hit with the departure of floor leader Clemente, but Pullen will likely return to the point guard spot and he’ll have some experienced frontcourt guys around him in Kelly and Samuels. Senior wing Sutton is also back, and now sophomores McGruder and Judge both have a year under their belts. But the difference-maker could be Asprilla, the FIU transfer who will give Frank Martin the low-post presence K-State lacked this year.
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Josh Selby is going to make Jake Pullen look like a hobo.
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Why is the boosters building Selby a new house? Or maybe just his mom.
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Is that proclamation going to go up on the mantle next to, "K-State is going to get hammered by the NCAA"??
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Just prepare yourselves for the imminent tea-bagging Selby is going to lay on Pullen next year.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimage3.examiner.com%2Fimages%2Fblog%2FEXID40729%2Fimages%2Fresized_Josh_Selby_picture.jpg&hash=54b125ac2d4519cc403a9c910546723ef6e2f6b1)
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i gotta be honest, our brief flirtation with the MCDAA game lasted far to short.
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Josh Selby is going to make Jake Pullen look like a hobo.
It's like roles between KU and KSU fans are completely reversed. :love:
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Just prepare yourselves for the imminent tea-bagging Selby is going to lay on Pullen next year.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimage3.examiner.com%2Fimages%2Fblog%2FEXID40729%2Fimages%2Fresized_Josh_Selby_picture.jpg&hash=54b125ac2d4519cc403a9c910546723ef6e2f6b1)
So Selby will be no worse than a 2nd team all American next year right Beemers? Can we get that one in writing right now? :popcorn:
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Josh Selby is going to make Jake Pullen look like a hobo.
It's like roles between KU and KSU fans are completely reversed. :love:
did you see this one?
Good job, guys... now let's see if you're ranked top five next year after losing Pullen, Sutton, and Kelly.
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Andy Katz's Preseason Top 25
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=katz_andy&id=5179956 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=katz_andy&id=5179956)
5. Kansas State: I really could have flipped Kansas State and Baylor, and maybe I should have with Denis Clemente being the Wildcats' only major loss. Jacob Pullen will need to find a partner on the perimeter as proficient as Clemente, but the role players on the Wildcats like Jamar Samuels, Dominique Sutton and Curtis Kelly continue to improve and the depth will be hard to match. This is certainly a Final Four contender.
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Josh Selby is going to make Jake Pullen look like a hobo.
It's like roles between KU and KSU fans are completely reversed. :love:
did you see this one?
Good job, guys... now let's see if you're ranked top five next year after losing Pullen, Sutton, and Kelly.
increds. love not being little bro anymore.
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Man, Ben just continues to push his own patheticness to new lows. And, by proclaiming Selby to be far superior to Pullen, has unwittingly doomed the poor bastard to be one-and-undone by Massa Self. Hope his mom really likes Lawrence, cause she might be there for a while....
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Selby has yet to play one minute of college basketball and it looks like KU fans are claiming him to be the 2nd coming of Michael Jordan.
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Selby has yet to play one minute of college basketball and it looks like KU fans are claiming him to be the 2nd coming of Michael Jordan.
Beat me to it. Pullen will run circles around this Selby character.
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Selby has yet to play one minute of college basketball and it looks like KU fans are claiming him to be the 2nd coming of Michael Jordan.
Beat me to it. Pullen will run circles around this Selby character.
Do you think Selby will even be as good as Pullen was his Freshman year?
Maybe that is what beams meant.
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Selby has yet to play one minute of college basketball and it looks like KU fans are claiming him to be the 2nd coming of Michael Jordan.
Beat me to it. Pullen will run circles around this Selby character.
Do you think Selby will even be as good as Pullen was his Freshman year?
Maybe that is what beams meant.
Probably what he meant. Pullen is in his 4th year, as we all know, and Beems thinks some loser slave of Seff's that's a freshman is going to be the next Michael Jordan or something
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Do you think Selby in his 4th year will be as good as Pullen in his 1st year?
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The insecurity on Phog is at hilarious levels right now. "But, but, we've won 6 titles in a row!"
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Josh Selby is going to make Jake Pullen look like a hobo.
It's like roles between KU and KSU fans are completely reversed. :love:
did you see this one?
Good job, guys... now let's see if you're ranked top five next year after losing Pullen, Sutton, and Kelly.
increds. love not being little bro anymore.
We never were. WTF? :dunno:
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Selby has yet to play one minute of college basketball and it looks like KU fans are claiming him to be the 2nd coming of Michael Jordan.
Beat me to it. Pullen will run circles around this Selby character.
Do you think Selby will even be as good as Pullen was his Freshman year?
Maybe that is what beams meant.
You do realize that Selby is the #1 overall recruit in the country, don't you?
:confused:
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Josh Selby is going to make Jake Pullen look like a hobo.
It's like roles between KU and KSU fans are completely reversed. :love:
did you see this one?
Good job, guys... now let's see if you're ranked top five next year after losing Pullen, Sutton, and Kelly.
increds. love not being little bro anymore.
We never were. WTF? :dunno:
Pffffffttttttt... yeah, you guys are the ones winning conference titles and going to the Final Four every four-five years. I guess I just never realized it.
:rolleyes:
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Josh Selby is going to make Jake Pullen look like a hobo.
It's like roles between KU and KSU fans are completely reversed. :love:
did you see this one?
Good job, guys... now let's see if you're ranked top five next year after losing Pullen, Sutton, and Kelly.
increds. love not being little bro anymore.
We never were. WTF? :dunno:
Pffffffttttttt... yeah, you guys are the ones winning conference titles and going to the Final Four every four-five years. I guess I just never realized it.
:rolleyes:
Try winning the North in FB and then get back to us...
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Josh Selby is going to make Jake Pullen look like a hobo.
It's like roles between KU and KSU fans are completely reversed. :love:
did you see this one?
Good job, guys... now let's see if you're ranked top five next year after losing Pullen, Sutton, and Kelly.
increds. love not being little bro anymore.
We never were. WTF? :dunno:
Pffffffttttttt... yeah, you guys are the ones winning conference titles and going to the Final Four every four-five years. I guess I just never realized it.
:rolleyes:
Try winning the North in FB and then get back to us...
:facepalm:
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Josh Selby is going to make Jake Pullen look like a hobo.
It's like roles between KU and KSU fans are completely reversed. :love:
did you see this one?
Good job, guys... now let's see if you're ranked top five next year after losing Pullen, Sutton, and Kelly.
increds. love not being little bro anymore.
We never were. WTF? :dunno:
Pffffffttttttt... yeah, you guys are the ones winning conference titles and going to the Final Four every four-five years. I guess I just never realized it.
:rolleyes:
Try winning the North in FB and then get back to us...
:facepalm:
Tap out accepted
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Man, Ben just continues to push his own patheticness to new lows. And, by proclaiming Selby to be far superior to Pullen, has unwittingly doomed the poor bastard to be one-and-undone by Massa Self. Hope his mom really likes Lawrence, cause she might be there for a while....
He does have a new house to live in so is 4 years should be enjoyable. He may not like being a mid-major after this season though.
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Selby has yet to play one minute of college basketball and it looks like KU fans are claiming him to be the 2nd coming of Michael Jordan.
Beat me to it. Pullen will run circles around this Selby character.
Do you think Selby will even be as good as Pullen was his Freshman year?
Maybe that is what beams meant.
You do realize that Selby is the #1 overall recruit in the country, don't you?
:confused:
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/espnu100?&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fespnu100
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And JaMarcus russell was the best player in his draft class. How'd that work out for the Raiders?
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Chest thumping and collar popping aside. Pullen v Selby does raise an interesting discussion.
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http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/espnu100?&season=2009&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fespnu100%3f%26season%3d2009 (http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/espnu100?&season=2009&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fespnu100%3f%26season%3d2009)
This kid sure tore it up! #1!! :bball:
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I hate to interrupt BMW's futile attempt at trying to make Selby seem like the 2nd coming of Oscar Robertson, but did anybody else catch that Mike Loyd Jr is basically being forced out at BYU? Tough to know the whole story, but kinda feel bad for the kid since he has not committed any truly egregious acts. In what little I saw of the kid, I was really impressed with his game, absolutely tore Florida up in the NCAAs. Gotta wonder if this was some sort of attempt to entice Fredette to come back for his Sr yr. We wouldn't want to have Jimmer share the spotlight with anyone, would we?
FWIW, Loyd's little bro, Johnathan, just signed w/Oregon, wonder if that will give Altman the inside track to land big brother.
Yeah, I know it's a little OT but BYU doesn't really have any msg board of note, so somebody's got to talk about it right?
http://www.sltrib.com/D=g/ci_15027285
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I hate to interrupt BMW's futile attempt at trying to make Selby seem like the 2nd coming of Oscar Robertson, but did anybody else catch that Mike Loyd Jr is basically being forced out at BYU? Tough to know the whole story, but kinda feel bad for the kid since he has not committed any truly egregious acts. In what little I saw of the kid, I was really impressed with his game, absolutely tore Florida up in the NCAAs. Gotta wonder if this was some sort of attempt to entice Fredette to come back for his Sr yr. Would want to have Jimmer share the spotlight with anyone, would we?
FWIW, Loyd's little bro, Johnathan, just signed w/Oregon, wonder if that will give Altman the inside track to land big brother.
Yeah, I know it's a little OT but BYU doesn't really have any msg board of note, so somebody's got to talk about it right?
http://www.sltrib.com/D=g/ci_15027285
Floyd probably accidentally glanced at a girl's boobs or something.
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http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/espnu100?&season=2009&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fespnu100%3f%26season%3d2009 (http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/espnu100?&season=2009&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fespnu100%3f%26season%3d2009)
This kid sure tore it up! #1!! :bball:
So, are you saying it's better to be the #5 player or to play for a team/coach that develops players??
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http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/espnu100?&season=2009&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fespnu100%3f%26season%3d2009 (http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/espnu100?&season=2009&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fespnu100%3f%26season%3d2009)
This kid sure tore it up! #1!! :bball:
So, are you saying it's better to be the #5 player or to play for a team/coach that develops players??
I think that's the crucial part. Sorry Selby, should have played for Coach Cal.
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And another #5 from Parrish. (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/13382351/top-25-and-one-a-spartan-postdeadline-approach?tag=headlines;collegebasketball)
And I have no idea how to react to expectations this high. NO IDEA.
:runaway:
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And another #5 from Parrish. (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/13382351/top-25-and-one-a-spartan-postdeadline-approach?tag=headlines;collegebasketball)
And I have no idea how to react to expectations this high. NO IDEA.
:runaway:
Initially :cheers:
very soon after it sinks in :ohno:
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And another #5 from Parrish. (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/13382351/top-25-and-one-a-spartan-postdeadline-approach?tag=headlines;collegebasketball)
And I have no idea how to react to expectations this high. NO IDEA.
:runaway:
Together, they'll keep the Jayhawks in the Big 12 hunt.
:lol: Love being the favorites while UK is being kept in the hunt.
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And another #5 from Parrish. (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/13382351/top-25-and-one-a-spartan-postdeadline-approach?tag=headlines;collegebasketball)
And I have no idea how to react to expectations this high. NO IDEA.
:runaway:
Just think 1998 in football and enjoy the heck out of it, but this time expect the inevitable kick in the nuts.
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I want Gottlieb and Bilas to put out their preseason rankings. Evidently those are the only two opinions that matter according to the Phog and it'd be interesting to see how they react if the place K-State in their top 5 or so.
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I want Gottlieb and Bilas to put out their preseason rankings. Evidently those are the only two opinions that matter according to the Phog and it'd be interesting to see how they react if the place K-State in their top 5 or so.
"KU fans' polls are the only ones that matter."
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Guess Selby is Ben's flavor of the month now. Remember how much he hyped up Tyshawn last summer? And Robinson, X, and Elijah, etc,... Ben is like the Madden curse for uk athletes.
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Guess Selby is Ben's flavor of the month now. Remember how much he hyped up Tyshawn last summer? And Robinson, X, and Elijah, etc,... Ben is like the Madden curse for uk athletes.
KU swept K-State last season and won the Big 12 by four games. Maybe next time?
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ksu won the big 12 :driving:
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Josh Selby is going to make Jake Pullen look like a hobo.
It's like roles between KU and KSU fans are completely reversed. :love:
did you see this one?
Good job, guys... now let's see if you're ranked top five next year after losing Pullen, Sutton, and Kelly.
increds. love not being little bro anymore.
We never were. WTF? :dunno:
You are consistently the worst poster on here. congrats.
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http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1083741
5. KANSAS STATE
BUZZ: Starters Denis Clemente and Luis Colon are gone, but the Wildcats should continue to be a Big 12 contender thanks to All-America candidate Jacob Pullen. Losing Clemente is big, but three other Wildcats averaged in double figures.
hey national media, stop loving the Cats so much. It's embarassing. :blush:
Others:
7 KU
10 Missouri
15 Baylor
"considered": Texas <<<---- :lol:
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uk couldn't make it out of the 2nd round with 2 AAs, a lottery pick, a couple 'o mongoloids, a drunk, a weasel, an Arizona cast-off, and a bunch of McD AAs. Maybe next time?
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http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1083741
5. KANSAS STATE
BUZZ: Starters Denis Clemente and Luis Colon are gone, but the Wildcats should continue to be a Big 12 contender thanks to All-America candidate Jacob Pullen. Losing Clemente is big, but three other Wildcats averaged in double figures.
hey national media, stop loving the Cats so much. It's embarassing. :blush:
Others:
7 KU
10 Missouri
15 Baylor
"considered": Texas <<<---- :lol:
undisputed kings of the big 12!
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I guess I'm having a hard time understanding how replacing Denis Clemente with a player like Martavious Irving is going to make K-State a better team. But hey, maybe that Canadian juco will be really good and you guys will manage to not get swept by KU again. I have my doubts, though.
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I'm having a hard time understanding how replacing 2 All-Americans and a first-rounder will make KU a top 5 team. See, we're all a little confused.
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Ben seems to have a hard time understanding an awful lot of things.
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I guess I'm having a hard time understanding how replacing Denis Clemente with a player like Martavious Irving is going to make K-State a better team. But hey, maybe that Canadian juco will be really good and you guys will manage to not get swept by KU again. I have my doubts, though.
Probably because it's doubtful that Irving starts at the point, and that we get better or stay the same all all other positions. Including our bench.
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I guess I'm having a hard time understanding how replacing Denis Clemente with a player like Martavious Irving is going to make K-State a better team. But hey, maybe that Canadian juco will be really good and you guys will manage to not get swept by KU again. I have my doubts, though.
Probably because it's doubtful that Irving starts at the point, and that we get better or stay the same all all other positions. Including our bench.
Oh, okay... so K-State's players are the only ones who improve during the off-season, and K-State is the only team in the Big 12 with guys capable of stepping up next year and taking on a bigger role. Got it.
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I'm having a hard time understanding how replacing 2 All-Americans and a first-rounder will make KU a top 5 team. See, we're all a little confused.
Will Whitey play more than 1 minute vs KSU next yr when he replaces CA at the 5? I bet Seff was keeping him on the bench to keep his talents hidden until next yr. He was as impactful a transfer as CK was, just not as obvious to outsiders.
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America loves us.
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/rank?versionId=1&listId=639 (http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/rank?versionId=1&listId=639)
Rank 'Em: Forde's Top 10
o (#1 Votes)Points 1 Duke (1,268) 20,899
o 2 Purdue (595) 19,799
o 3 Michigan St. (238) 18,702
o 4 Kansas St. (69) 12,856
o 5 Ohio St. (32) 11,798
o 6 Kansas (113) 10,955
o 7 Pittsburgh (19) 10,264
o 8 Villanova (42) 9,799
o 9 Washington (47) 7,571
o 10 Florida (12) 6,771
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Wow, huge gap from 3-4.
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I guess I'm having a hard time understanding how replacing Denis Clemente with a player like Martavious Irving is going to make K-State a better team. But hey, maybe that Canadian juco will be really good and you guys will manage to not get swept by KU again. I have my doubts, though.
Probably because it's doubtful that Irving starts at the point, and that we get better or stay the same all all other positions. Including our bench.
Oh, okay... so K-State's players are the only ones who improve during the off-season, and K-State is the only team in the Big 12 with guys capable of stepping up next year and taking on a bigger role. Got it.
You'd think with how much you're on here you'd know something.
Team A makes it to the Elite 8, and the next year they get worse at 1 position and better than or equal to at the other 4.
Team B makes it to the round of 32, and the next year gets worse at 3 positions and better than or equal to at the other 2.
Which team is more likely to be better? (and yes, that is rhetorical)
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I guess I'm having a hard time understanding how replacing Denis Clemente with a player like Martavious Irving is going to make K-State a better team. But hey, maybe that Canadian juco will be really good and you guys will manage to not get swept by KU again. I have my doubts, though.
Probably because it's doubtful that Irving starts at the point, and that we get better or stay the same all all other positions. Including our bench.
Oh, okay... so K-State's players are the only ones who improve during the off-season, and K-State is the only team in the Big 12 with guys capable of stepping up next year and taking on a bigger role. Got it.
You'd think with how much you're on here you'd know something.
Team A makes it to the Elite 8, and the next year they get worse at 1 position and better than or equal to at the other 4.
Team B makes it to the round of 32, and the next year gets worse at 3 positions and better than or equal to at the other 2.
Which team is more likely to be better? (and yes, that is rhetorical)
Team B went 33-3 and swept Team A last season. Team B has won six straight Big 12 titles. Team B lost seven players, including five starters, off of a national championship team and proceeded to go 14-2 in the Big 12 and reach the Sweet Sixteen the next season.
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Team A won the Big 12.
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I guess I'm having a hard time understanding how replacing Denis Clemente with a player like Martavious Irving is going to make K-State a better team. But hey, maybe that Canadian juco will be really good and you guys will manage to not get swept by KU again. I have my doubts, though.
Probably because it's doubtful that Irving starts at the point, and that we get better or stay the same all all other positions. Including our bench.
Oh, okay... so K-State's players are the only ones who improve during the off-season, and K-State is the only team in the Big 12 with guys capable of stepping up next year and taking on a bigger role. Got it.
You'd think with how much you're on here you'd know something.
Team A makes it to the Elite 8, and the next year they get worse at 1 position and better than or equal to at the other 4.
Team B makes it to the round of 32, and the next year gets worse at 3 positions and better than or equal to at the other 2.
Which team is more likely to be better? (and yes, that is rhetorical)
Team B went 33-3 and swept Team A last season. Team B has won six straight Big 12 titles. Team B lost seven players, including five starters, off of a national championship team and proceeded to go 14-2 in the Big 12 and reach the Sweet Sixteen the next season.
What do each of those points have to do with next years teams? :confused:
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Ben, I just don't think all that Team B stuff will fit on a banner. The font size would have to be tiny, making it practically unreadable.
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Jeff Goodman's Preseason Top 25
http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/College-Hoops-Preseason-Top-25-for-2010-11-051010 (http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/College-Hoops-Preseason-Top-25-for-2010-11-051010)
Don't want to let the Khatz out of the bag here, but K-State will be playing 7 teams in this top 25 (possibly 8), with KU/MU twice. Going to be a fun schedule when released. :kstatriot:
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Jeff Goodman's Preseason Top 25
http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/College-Hoops-Preseason-Top-25-for-2010-11-051010 (http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/College-Hoops-Preseason-Top-25-for-2010-11-051010)
Don't want to let the Khatz out of the bag here, but K-State will be playing 7 teams in this top 25 (possibly 8), with KU/MU twice. Going to be a fun schedule when released. :kstatriot:
:surprised: :runaway:
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Don't want to let the Khatz out of the bag here, but K-State will be playing 7 teams in this top 25 (possibly 8), with KU/MU twice. Going to be a fun schedule when released. :kstatriot:
i see 5/6: duke and/or gonzaga, ku x2, mu x 2, baylor & unlv.
the remaining 2 = ? will guess richmond and villanova.
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Don't want to let the Khatz out of the bag here, but K-State will be playing 7 teams in this top 25 (possibly 8), with KU/MU twice. Going to be a fun schedule when released. :kstatriot:
i see 5/6: duke and/or gonzaga, ku x2, mu x 2, baylor & unlv.
the remaining 2 = ? will guess richmond and villanova.
I think he meant 7 or 8 games.
Check that, I think he is implying there is at least 1, maybe 2 more teams that haven't been announced.
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I think he meant 7 or 8 games.
yeah, i had a smartass reply about khatz and bags ready to go when i reread and decided he meant what he implied about the bagged khatz.
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Team B went 33-3 and swept Team A last season. Team B has won six straight Big 12 titles. Team B lost seven players, including five starters, off of a national championship team and proceeded to go 14-2 in the Big 12 and reach the Sweet Sixteen the next season.
:blah:
That's a lot of stuff that has nothing to do with the 2010-2011 basketball season.
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Jeff Goodman's Preseason Top 25
http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/College-Hoops-Preseason-Top-25-for-2010-11-051010 (http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/College-Hoops-Preseason-Top-25-for-2010-11-051010)
Don't want to let the Khatz out of the bag here, but K-State will be playing 7 teams in this top 25 (possibly 8), with KU/MU twice. Going to be a fun schedule when released. :kstatriot:
Oh, also forgot that of those 7(or 8) teams, 4 of them will be in the OoD, 2 (or 3) will be in SC, 1 away/neutral (not counting return trips to L/C)
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Jeff Goodman's Preseason Top 25
http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/College-Hoops-Preseason-Top-25-for-2010-11-051010 (http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/College-Hoops-Preseason-Top-25-for-2010-11-051010)
Don't want to let the Khatz out of the bag here, but K-State will be playing 7 teams in this top 25 (possibly 8), with KU/MU twice. Going to be a fun schedule when released. :kstatriot:
Oh, also forgot that of those 7(or 8) teams, 4 of them will be in the OoD, 2 (or 3) will be in SC, 1 away/neutral (not counting return trips to L/C)
:excited:
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I'm having a hard time understanding how replacing 2 All-Americans and a first-rounder will make KU a top 5 team. See, we're all a little confused.
Will Whitey play more than 1 minute vs KSU next yr when he replaces CA at the 5? I bet Seff was keeping him on the bench to keep his talents hidden until next yr. He was as impactful a transfer as CK was, just not as obvious to outsiders.
Appears TKeegs and I see the same glaring problem for our Hawks next yr -- only four post players: 1 has proven to be sucky, 1 proven not very good, and 2 proven scorers against players of equal size or smaller.
Now for the player who doesn’t have a comparable replacement. Center Cole Aldrich defended such a large area of the floor, he disrupted teams that liked to take it to the hoop. His long arms, strong focus and excellent timing in blocking shots made drivers gunshy.
Not that KU doesn’t have a skilled shot-blocker. Jeff Withey, a long-armed 7-footer with good timing, blocked six shots and scored 19 points in just 45 minutes. His playing so sparingly suggests Self isn’t sure he’s the answer. If Withey plays well enough to make Self trust him, he’s the best equipped to help soften the blow of Aldrich’s departure.
Elsewhere in the post, added experience will bring improvement for Marcus and Markieff Morris and Thomas Robinson.
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Oh, also forgot that of those 7(or 8) teams, 4 of them will be in the OoD, 2 (or 3) will be in SC, 1 away/neutral (not counting return trips to L/C)
ood: mu, ku, bu, mystery elite h&h
sc: unlv, 1 or both of duke/gonzaga
away/neutral: mystery elite h&h or neutral&neutral
if this is going to be more than a couple days, you'd probably better just go ahead and pm the names.
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if this is going to be more than a couple days, you'd probably better just go ahead and pm the names.
yeah, sys and I are very good with secrets. VERY GOOD.
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if this is going to be more than a couple days, you'd probably better just go ahead and pm the names.
yeah, sys and I are very good with secrets. VERY GOOD.
Yay! Captain Crap is posting.
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Jeff Goodman's Preseason Top 25
http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/College-Hoops-Preseason-Top-25-for-2010-11-051010 (http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/College-Hoops-Preseason-Top-25-for-2010-11-051010)
Don't want to let the Khatz out of the bag here, but K-State will be playing 7 teams in this top 25 (possibly 8), with KU/MU twice. Going to be a fun schedule when released. :kstatriot:
Oh, also forgot that of those 7(or 8) teams, 4 of them will be in the OoD, 2 (or 3) will be in SC, 1 away/neutral (not counting return trips to L/C)
Some dood on the Gopo Catchat board is saying that we are playing Virginia Tech next year on the ESPN 24 hours of hoops. They are in the preseason top 25. Not sure if accurate, but thought I would pass it along.
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Jeff Goodman's Preseason Top 25
http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/College-Hoops-Preseason-Top-25-for-2010-11-051010 (http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/College-Hoops-Preseason-Top-25-for-2010-11-051010)
Don't want to let the Khatz out of the bag here, but K-State will be playing 7 teams in this top 25 (possibly 8), with KU/MU twice. Going to be a fun schedule when released. :kstatriot:
Oh, also forgot that of those 7(or 8) teams, 4 of them will be in the OoD, 2 (or 3) will be in SC, 1 away/neutral (not counting return trips to L/C)
Some dood on the Gopo Catchat board is saying that we are playing Virginia Tech next year on the ESPN 24 hours of hoops. They are in the preseason top 25. Not sure if accurate, but thought I would pass it along.
Seems to fit Capt Crap's hints. Hope he can confirm. Good event to be a part of if true
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I hope we play them at 3AM or something.
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3AMpak?
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Didn't Capt Crap say it would be a home game too? 3am game would be phenomenal for tailgating. The way they do it though, I would think we would be in a primetime slot...or like noon on the next day which would suck
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Somebody may have to carry me around, Weekend at Bernie's style if it's a 3 AM'pak.
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Jeff Goodman's Preseason Top 25
http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/College-Hoops-Preseason-Top-25-for-2010-11-051010 (http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/College-Hoops-Preseason-Top-25-for-2010-11-051010)
Don't want to let the Khatz out of the bag here, but K-State will be playing 7 teams in this top 25 (possibly 8), with KU/MU twice. Going to be a fun schedule when released. :kstatriot:
Oh, also forgot that of those 7(or 8) teams, 4 of them will be in the OoD, 2 (or 3) will be in SC, 1 away/neutral (not counting return trips to L/C)
Some dood on the Gopo Catchat board is saying that we are playing Virginia Tech next year on the ESPN 24 hours of hoops. They are in the preseason top 25. Not sure if accurate, but thought I would pass it along.
:peek:
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the staff may not be able to recruit for crap, but goddamn if they aren't a scheduling juggernaut.
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the staff may not be able to recruit for crap, but goddamn if they aren't a scheduling juggernaut.
Andy Assaley, friend of goEMAW.
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the staff may not be able to recruit for crap, but goddamn if they aren't a scheduling juggernaut.
Andy Assaley, friend of goEMAW.
Yep, that guy would slit his grandmother's throat if he thought it would help out the board and it's members.
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Love these posts made on the Phog before this article came out.
KSU: one of the top frontcourts nationally? I think not.
KSU is not a top 6 team.
lol, ksu wont beat ku next year and isnt a top 10 team. moran
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Love these posts made on the Phog before this article came out.
KSU: one of the top frontcourts nationally? I think not.
KSU is not a top 6 team.
lol, ksu wont beat ku next year and isnt a top 10 team. moran
Sweet irony.
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Love these posts made on the Phog before this article came out.
KSU: one of the top frontcourts nationally? I think not.
KSU is not a top 6 team.
lol, ksu wont beat ku next year and isnt a top 10 team. moran
Says the tard that can't spell moron
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Welcome to the internet.
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Jerry?
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Alphonso
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Love these posts made on the Phog before this article came out.
KSU: one of the top frontcourts nationally? I think not.
KSU is not a top 6 team.
lol, ksu wont beat ku next year and isnt a top 10 team. moran
ku=won't even win the north in football.
(my ku style comeback)