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Title: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: kso_FAN on November 21, 2016, 09:17:23 AM
KU's rush defense:
#9 in the Big 12 at 5.08 yards per rush and 227 yard per game allowed.
#100 run defense in the S&P+

I'll say 315 yards rushing. Barnes finishes with 165 and Ertz 115.
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: Kat Kid on November 21, 2016, 09:24:57 AM
If you or I were calling the plays it would be 400.

I think we are right around 325.
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: bubbles4ksu on November 21, 2016, 09:29:43 AM
i'm already pissed off at charles jones getting the first 8 carries
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: Yard Dog on November 21, 2016, 09:44:31 AM
i'm already pissed off at charles jones getting the first 8 carries

Senior day though. . .
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: yoga-like_abana on November 21, 2016, 09:45:50 AM
475 yards!
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: catastrophe on November 21, 2016, 09:47:32 AM
We're not going to run it. That's the first thing they would expect.
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: Coach Beaty on November 21, 2016, 09:50:09 AM
I would say all the projections so far are a little high.
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: HELLHAMMER on November 21, 2016, 10:06:22 AM
We're not going to run it. That's the first thing they would expect.
That's what I'm thinking.  Dimel and Miller will make this way harder than it should be.
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: DQ12 on November 21, 2016, 10:18:00 AM
Really, as many as we want I'd think.  I'll be surprised if Barnes/Jones don't combine for 225 or so. 

I'll go with 320.
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: kso_FAN on November 21, 2016, 10:27:25 AM
We've run it 2/3 of the time in our last 6 games and had at least 230 yards in 5 of them. OU is the outlier and that's mainly because we got behind. We'll see at least 50 carries.

Also, KU is the fastest paced team in the Big 12, averaging 15 drives per game, so we may end up with more opportunities/plays if they insist on their HUNH offense.
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: star seed 7 on November 21, 2016, 10:45:44 AM
Lol, love that fastest pace stat
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: kso_FAN on November 21, 2016, 10:46:23 AM
Lol, love that fastest pace stat

Its very Ron Prince-ish.
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: Tobias on November 21, 2016, 10:47:35 AM
4D up-tempo
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 21, 2016, 10:54:05 AM
Lol, love that fastest pace stat

I think it's the biggest reason they suck so much.
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: Big Sam on November 21, 2016, 10:55:57 AM
K-State is going to run successfully for a few plays, then start chuckin' it all over the yard.

Maybe 215 yards on the ground is my guess.  It should be a helluva a lot more, but I doubt it will be.
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 21, 2016, 10:56:03 AM
 :billdance:
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: star seed 7 on November 21, 2016, 11:25:39 AM
Lol, love that fastest pace stat

I think it's the biggest reason they suck so much.

I'm sure there are arguments for both cause and effect
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: Coach Beaty on November 21, 2016, 11:50:52 AM
Lol, love that fastest pace stat

I think it's the biggest reason they suck so much.

:frown:
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: Gooch on November 21, 2016, 11:53:30 AM
i'm already pissed off at charles jones getting the first 8 carries

Senior day though. . .
Ask Carson Coffman about his Sr. Day. :lol:
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: wetwillie on November 21, 2016, 12:06:27 PM
500
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: ednksu on November 21, 2016, 12:11:49 PM
We've run it 2/3 of the time in our last 6 games and had at least 230 yards in 5 of them. OU is the outlier and that's mainly because we got behind. We'll see at least 50 carries.

Also, KU is the fastest paced team in the Big 12, averaging 15 drives per game, so we may end up with more opportunities/plays if they insist on their HUNH offense.
Do you have stats on how many 3 and outs they average per game or how many plays it takes their op to score?
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: kso_FAN on November 21, 2016, 12:26:23 PM
We've run it 2/3 of the time in our last 6 games and had at least 230 yards in 5 of them. OU is the outlier and that's mainly because we got behind. We'll see at least 50 carries.

Also, KU is the fastest paced team in the Big 12, averaging 15 drives per game, so we may end up with more opportunities/plays if they insist on their HUNH offense.
Do you have stats on how many 3 and outs they average per game or how many plays it takes their op to score?

I don't. Their defense has actually been their best unit though (the offense is absolutely dreadful), but they aren't good at defense either. PPP and PPD (below) relate to how many plays it takes for opponents to score a bit.

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Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: cfbandyman on November 21, 2016, 12:31:19 PM
We get 347 yards on the ground, 181 yards through the air.
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: Bookcat on November 21, 2016, 12:47:53 PM
If its less than 300 I'll be pretty bummed about the moral loss. ...
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: Coach Beaty on November 21, 2016, 12:51:34 PM
The thing about these predictions is they are predicated on the OC calling what could be effective.  That's a pretty big gray area there I would think.
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: Panjandrum on November 21, 2016, 12:54:23 PM
315
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: MakeItRain on November 21, 2016, 02:22:06 PM
1. The Coach Beaty sock posts a little bit too much, it's beyond the saturation point.
2. I want to play a different game, how many rushers do you think will go over 100? I think three; Jones, Ertz, and Barnes.
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: kso_FAN on November 21, 2016, 02:36:48 PM
1. The Coach Beaty sock posts a little bit too much, it's beyond the saturation point.
2. I want to play a different game, how many rushers do you think will go over 100? I think three; Jones, Ertz, and Barnes.

I agree with both comments.
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: wazucat on November 21, 2016, 02:39:29 PM
Jones 100+, Hubes 85, Silmon 55, Ertz 45, Warmack 35,  Barnes 75, Dimel 15, Delton 20 about 430 total
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: bubbles4ksu on November 21, 2016, 03:06:03 PM
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=18087290 (http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=18087290)

really enjoyed this run. watch the wrs scramble to pick up the ball to hand to the ref.
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on November 21, 2016, 03:12:58 PM
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=18087290 (http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=18087290)

really enjoyed this run. watch the wrs scramble to pick up the ball to hand to the ref.

Zuber "scrambled" to recover what he thought might have been a fumble into the endzone.

 :dubious:
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: kso_FAN on November 21, 2016, 03:13:11 PM
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=18087290 (http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=18087290)

really enjoyed this run. watch the wrs scramble to pick up the ball to hand to the ref.

I think their initial reaction was that it might be a fumble. And I will say, he had 3-4 carries that ended near the endzone or sideline where the ball came rolling out after he was already down, but were split seconds away from being possible fumbles, so I do hope he cleans that up a little bit.
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: bubbles4ksu on November 21, 2016, 03:27:10 PM
yeah, they thought it was a fumble. i wasn't paying attention to how he released the ball.
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: MakeItRain on November 21, 2016, 03:46:55 PM
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=18087290 (http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=18087290)

really enjoyed this run. watch the wrs scramble to pick up the ball to hand to the ref.

Zuber "scrambled" to recover what he thought might have been a fumble into the endzone.

 :dubious:

I can assure you that they now have some drill in practice where the ball has to go to the referee after touchdowns no matter what.
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: bubbles4ksu on November 21, 2016, 03:49:01 PM
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=18087290 (http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=18087290)

really enjoyed this run. watch the wrs scramble to pick up the ball to hand to the ref.

Zuber "scrambled" to recover what he thought might have been a fumble into the endzone.

 :dubious:

I can assure you that they now have some drill in practice where the ball has to go to the referee after touchdowns no matter what.
after 7 viewings i'm back to thinking that they were terrified of not handing the ball to the ref.
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: cfbandyman on November 21, 2016, 07:28:17 PM
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=18087290 (http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=18087290)

really enjoyed this run. watch the wrs scramble to pick up the ball to hand to the ref.

I think their initial reaction was that it might be a fumble. And I will say, he had 3-4 carries that ended near the endzone or sideline where the ball came rolling out after he was already down, but were split seconds away from being possible fumbles, so I do hope he cleans that up a little bit.

Agreed, even though all of his scores were TDs, he does let go of the ball quite quickly/doesn't hold onto it through his entire duration of the play that does make one kinda :ohno: every time he does it.  I just hope when he score against ku he doesn't "fumble" it and it end up being touchback.
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: ednksu on November 21, 2016, 07:32:33 PM
Thanks for those stats _Fan
Title: Re: How many yards on the ground this week?
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 21, 2016, 11:38:03 PM
Whatever Perine got against them that one game +1 yard. :Woohoo: