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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: EMAWican on November 05, 2016, 06:06:10 PM
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I say no. I'm all for beating KU for 199 wins, losing out the rest of the year, and forcing Bill to retire at the end of this year.
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200 wins makes no difference to Bill, I guarantee it.
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200 wins makes no difference to Bill, I guarantee it.
He even said so last week.
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I want him to get 200. But right now, with the punting on 4th and 6 inches, I think he does not deserve it. JFC.
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200 wins makes no difference to Bill, I guarantee it.
He even said so last week.
what did he say? I still guarantee he's just talking no matter what he said.
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I think I posted this before, but aside from it involving losing more and that he still has to outlast Currie anyway, I think he'd be happy ending w/199 and pointing to it for the rest of his life (?) as how he wasn't interested in personal accomplishments.
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I think I posted this before, but aside from it involving losing more and that he still has to outlast Currie anyway, I think he'd be happy ending w/199 and pointing to it for the rest of his life (?) as how he wasn't interested in personal accomplishments.
Well he is going to get his wish
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200 wins makes no difference to Bill, I guarantee it.
He even said so last week.
what did he say? I still guarantee he's just talking no matter what he said.
Someone posted the tweet from the presser in another thread and hopefully they'll be a hero and link it. Basically he said 200 wins wasn't on his radar.
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I hope Bill gets 200 wins. Today was disappointing.
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I hope Bill gets 200 wins. Today was disappointing.
Oh he obviously will unless 2017 and 2018 are unbelievable disasters.
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He will beat Central Arkansas next season for 200, and it will be very symbolic as he's never beaten anyone of importance, and 200 will be no different.
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It's sad to see him get out coached so often these days
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200 wins makes no difference to Bill, I guarantee it.
I guarantee opposite. what now?
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also yes, he does deserve it. but I wished it was this year because I'm ready for him to move on and get worshiped for all of history by our fans because I don't want to have to bobby bowden him.
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200 wins makes no difference to Bill, I guarantee it.
I guarantee opposite. what now?
I should clarify: he absolutely cares about 200 wins but 200 wins will not influence his decision to quit.
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200 wins makes no difference to Bill, I guarantee it.
I guarantee opposite. what now?
I should clarify: he absolutely cares about 200 wins but 200 wins will not influence his decision to quit.
most of the people that actually are connected to ksu cats football on this board feel differently.
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200 wins makes no difference to Bill, I guarantee it.
I guarantee opposite. what now?
I should clarify: he absolutely cares about 200 wins but 200 wins will not influence his decision to quit.
most of the people that actually are connected to ksu cats football on this board feel differently.
They're wrong
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200 wins makes no difference to Bill, I guarantee it.
I guarantee opposite. what now?
I should clarify: he absolutely cares about 200 wins but 200 wins will not influence his decision to quit.
ok, we good
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Imagine how furious Currie will be when Bill tanks the bowl game to stay at 199, then announces he's coming back to get 200
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I hope he gets 200 this year. And if this year is really setting up for the next two he may get several more.
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Why does he deserve 200 wins? He's already in the hall, a legend among experts/peers and football hum dumbs, and his name is on the God damn stadium for eternity. I say he's got what he deserves. 200 wins adds absolutely nothing.
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Why does he deserve 200 wins? He's already in the hall, a legend among experts/peers and football hum dumbs, and his name is on the God damn stadium for eternity. I say he's got what he deserves. 200 wins adds absolutely nothing.
then why are you starting threads about it?
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I say no. I'm all for beating KU for 199 wins, losing out the rest of the year, and forcing Bill to retire at the end of this year.
Die in a fire
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Why does he deserve 200 wins? He's already in the hall, a legend among experts/peers and football hum dumbs, and his name is on the God damn stadium for eternity. I say he's got what he deserves. 200 wins adds absolutely nothing.
then why are you starting threads about it?
I'm honestly asking what the reasons are other than people think he wants it and would make him feel good.
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I say no. I'm all for beating KU for 199 wins, losing out the rest of the year, and forcing Bill to retire at the end of this year.
Die in a fire
Will do.
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Well, it would make me feel good too
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Why would you not care? It's an impactful sounding number that almost nobody has gotten to and we will certainly not get anyone to again. What's the downside?
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Whether you like it or not people use rounded off numbers as measurements of success. 3000 hits and any other example of baseball numbers are revered.
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Why does he deserve 200 wins? He's already in the hall, a legend among experts/peers and football hum dumbs, and his name is on the God damn stadium for eternity. I say he's got what he deserves. 200 wins adds absolutely nothing.
then why are you starting threads about it?
I'm honestly asking what the reasons are other than people think he wants it and would make him feel good.
That's stupid
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Bill absolutely cares and has an ego like any other human, but I also believe his humility in the matter is sincere.
Again, none of us would be posting on this freaking board if it wasn't for LHC Bill Snyder, I really want and hope that he gets to 200 wins. I still think he will do it this season.
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He wants 200 and has no humility about it. I wouldn't either. He shouldn't.
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When Bill's accomplishments are listed, 200+ wins will be last, if mentioned at all.
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I am having a hard time with the fact that people want him out so badly that they would wish we didn't get another couple of wins this year. I am old, and I watched games before Snyder got here. That doesn't mean I think he shouldn't be held accountable for the way the team performs. But to think he doesn't deserve two more wins seems petty and pretty ridiculous to me.
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I am having a hard time with the fact that people want him out so badly that they would wish we didn't get another couple of wins this year. I am old, and I watched games before Snyder got here. That doesn't mean I think he shouldn't be held accountable for the way the team performs. But to think he doesn't deserve two more wins seems petty and pretty ridiculous to me.
Exactly. I'm frustrated with the losses and the team, but people need to be careful. We are far from a terrible football team; we see those in Lawrence and Ames. I mean, by being "not bad" we aren't good enough, and people should want more, but this is far from a team (or coaching staff) that is hate-able to me.
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Bill deserves it if he earns it. Ain't earning it IMO
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I kinda hate these coaches.
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What makes any of us think that he's going to get to 200 this year? I hope he does, but is it worth another mediocre year next year?
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When Bill's accomplishments are listed, 200+ wins will be last, if mentioned at all.
Yeah people rarely mention coaches' records when talking about them
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What makes any of us think that he's going to get to 200 this year? I hope he does, but is it worth another mediocre year next year?
Today was probably the most difficult opponent left on our schedule. I won't be surprised with 2 more regular season wins, but if our only other win is KU, we probably win our bowl game.
Also, I don't think 200 necessarily dictates whether he will be back next year.
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He deserves whatever he ends up with.
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He's already in the HOF.
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He doesn't deserve it. I hope he gets it tho. I think he will. It will be this season.
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He doesn't deserve it. I hope he gets it tho. I think he will. It will be this season.
He stayed here when he could have left for much greener pastures two decades ago. Of course he deserves 200 wins, he deserves more. You are a bunch of ungrateful heathens.
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It's not really up to us. Someone could @ this to Baylor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C2W62HNNsc
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He doesn't deserve it. I hope he gets it tho. I think he will. It will be this season.
He stayed here when he could have left for much greener pastures two decades ago. Of course he deserves 200 wins, he deserves more. You are a bunch of ungrateful heathens.
This.
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When Bill's accomplishments are listed, 200+ wins will be last, if mentioned at all.
this will be an Aflac trivia question when another coach is approaching his 200th win.. duh
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He doesn't deserve it. I hope he gets it tho. I think he will. It will be this season.
He stayed here when he could have left for much greener pastures two decades ago. Of course he deserves 200 wins, he deserves more. You are a bunch of ungrateful heathens.
This.
Even I agree with this 100%. He's earned the right to stay as long as he wants.
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What makes any of us think that he's going to get to 200 this year? I hope he does, but is it worth another mediocre year next year?
Today was probably the most difficult opponent left on our schedule. I won't be surprised with 2 more regular season wins, but if our only other win is KU, we probably win our bowl game.
Also, I don't think 200 necessarily dictates whether he will be back next year.
Why do you think we will win our bowl game?
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He doesn't deserve it. I hope he gets it tho. I think he will. It will be this season.
He stayed here when he could have left for much greener pastures two decades ago. Of course he deserves 200 wins, he deserves more. You are a bunch of ungrateful heathens.
This.
Even I agree with this 100%. He's earned the right to stay as long as he wants.
I could agree with this, if he was actually being the HC while staying. The letting his already shitty staff continue to get shitter, have more control, and lazier in recruiting isn't him being the HC. He's a figure head screwing over his successor.
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I have actually been encouraged by recruiting the last few years.
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I have actually been encouraged by recruiting the last few years.
Yeah our talent overall isn't that bad IMO. Plus we're very young. Like, did anyone see the graphic about our oline starts? 4 of 5 are basically first year starters
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I have actually been encouraged by recruiting the last few years.
Yeah our talent overall isn't that bad IMO. Plus we're very young. Like, did anyone see the graphic about our oline starts? 4 of 5 are basically first year starters
Probably not the time or place for this but Abdul Beecham had multiple very untimely mistakes.
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Sweet thread. :rolleyes:
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actually, wackster, this thread is a laugh riot.
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Catching up from vacation. Bullet points on this gem?
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Catching up from vacation. Bullet points on this gem?
youre back! (again)
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Yeah, 'slim, I am!
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Yeah, 'slim, I am!
i for one am thrilled at this
thoughts on saturday?
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Embarrassing. Our coaching staff got clown suited and we continue to avoid putting teams away. I watched 3/4 of it on my phone while hiking in Oregon, so I wasn't glued to it, but any time you're up 9 with 8 to play and lose by 6, it isn't on the players. Sigh. :angry: I still want Snyder to get to 200 tho. We wouldn't be discussing K-State sports if it wasn't for what he's done :tucksshirtin:. He at least deserves our support on his way out.
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i agree, should have looked up beems while in oregon
snyder getting to 200 seems important and i want him to do it
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:thumbs: We enjoyed our stay. Will do next time. :cheers:
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He doesn't deserve it. I hope he gets it tho. I think he will. It will be this season.
He stayed here when he could have left for much greener pastures two decades ago. Of course he deserves 200 wins, he deserves more. You are a bunch of ungrateful heathens.
This.
This times 10.
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I'd say he deserved 200 in 2012......which he would have, if he didn't quit/retire whatever the first time.........now i am more on the side of getting this thing to transition the right way to winning football without the name LHC Bill Snyder attached to the program.
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deserve ain't got nothing to do with it.
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I have actually been encouraged by recruiting the last few years.
Agree, tho I wonder what you think about this year's class. It seems woefully thin. Like a lot of guys who ought to be walk on types getting schollies.
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I'd say he deserved 200 in 2012......which he would have, if he didn't quit/retire whatever the first time.........now i am more on the side of getting this thing to transition the right way to winning football without the name LHC Bill Snyder attached to the program.
Why does he deserve 200 wins if he was done and ok with 136 wins the first time around? I mean he's got a statue outside of the stadium and his name plastered on everything for eternity which is far more important to him than being the 80th coach or whatever to get to 200 wins.
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He doesn't deserve it. I hope he gets it tho. I think he will. It will be this season.
He stayed here when he could have left for much greener pastures two decades ago. Of course he deserves 200 wins, he deserves more. You are a bunch of ungrateful heathens.
This.
This times 10.
If he left for greener pastures maybe he would've got to 200 wins before quitting the first time. :dunno:
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EMAWican, you're trying too hard, take a lap.
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EMAWican, you're trying too hard, take a lap.
Go post in the travel thread.
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I already did. :dunno:
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I already did. :dunno:
Then stay there.
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I want to be clear though, he shouldn't be getting 200 at thd expense of the program. Not that I think this is the case, some of you think it is though, but if he finishes this season at 199 and thinks he lost his fastball, he doesn't deserve to stay another year just for 200.
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i don't think companies, of which k-state is one, owe their employees anything. also don't really understand how a coach deserves a win. his players won the games.
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I want to be clear though, he shouldn't be getting 200 at thd expense of the program. Not that I think this is the case, some of you think it is though, but if he finishes this season at 199 and thinks he lost his fastball, he doesn't deserve to stay another year just for 200.
I think its ok if he lost something off of his fastball but damnett he better be using some crisco, bardol, vagisil or rub some jalapeno up his nose to give him a little extra on his curve then
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I want to be clear though, he shouldn't be getting 200 at thd expense of the program. Not that I think this is the case, some of you think it is though, but if he finishes this season at 199 and thinks he lost his fastball, he doesn't deserve to stay another year just for 200.
I think its ok if he lost something off of his fastball but damnett he better be using some crisco, bardol, vagisil or rub some jalapeno up his nose to give him a little extra on his curve then
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn3.sbnation.com%2Fassets%2F3526593%2Feddieharris.JPG&hash=ec299285c0b8a4a0bfaffa3169679e77abc89609)
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I want to be clear though, he shouldn't be getting 200 at thd expense of the program. Not that I think this is the case, some of you think it is though, but if he finishes this season at 199 and thinks he lost his fastball, he doesn't deserve to stay another year just for 200.
I think its ok if he lost something off of his fastball but damnett he better be using some crisco, bardol, vagisil or rub some jalapeno up his nose to give him a little extra on his curve then
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn3.sbnation.com%2Fassets%2F3526593%2Feddieharris.JPG&hash=ec299285c0b8a4a0bfaffa3169679e77abc89609)
:confused: not a movie buff.
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He doesn't deserve it. I hope he gets it tho. I think he will. It will be this season.
He stayed here when he could have left for much greener pastures two decades ago. Of course he deserves 200 wins, he deserves more. You are a bunch of ungrateful heathens.
No one deserves anything. He's put himself in the position to make it possible. I'm grateful he's let us along for the ride.
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I guess I will always see the school and program as bigger than Bill. I guess most KSU fans would rather bury the program with Bill than face the reality that another coach can win here as well. If bill isn't some unique gem of a football coach then their whole worldview collapses.
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My goodness, the program is not being buried. Good grief.
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My goodness, the program is not being buried. Good grief.
there's no hope that we're going to be really good though, either
bill has been bruced
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Deserve is a weird way to put it but how on earth could you not root for us to end the season with him at more than 200 wins? Burn it down in football is a terrible idea.
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Deserve is a weird way to put it but how on earth could you not root for us to end the season with him at more than 200 wins? Burn it down in football is a terrible idea.
I think the op is assuming Snyder won't make it this year, and if he doesn't, he shouldn't be allowed to come back just to get that somewhat arbitrary and meaningless milestone. Not entirely unreasonable when phrased that way, even if you disagree.
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So I guess the Q is does Bill deserve another year to get to 200? If that's the Q my answer is he shouldn't be forced out based on this season. If he wants to coach next year, I have no issue with that, even with all the frustrations during the WVU and OSU games.
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I love bowl wins. :emawkid: :driving:
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Deserve is a weird way to put it but how on earth could you not root for us to end the season with him at more than 200 wins? Burn it down in football is a terrible idea.
I think the op is assuming Snyder won't make it this year, and if he doesn't, he shouldn't be allowed to come back just to get that somewhat arbitrary and meaningless milestone. Not entirely unreasonable when phrased that way, even if you disagree.
Correct. But that's too long of a thread title.
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Deserve is a weird way to put it but how on earth could you not root for us to end the season with him at more than 200 wins? Burn it down in football is a terrible idea.
I think the op is assuming Snyder won't make it this year, and if he doesn't, he shouldn't be allowed to come back just to get that somewhat arbitrary and meaningless milestone. Not entirely unreasonable when phrased that way, even if you disagree.
Not entirely unreasonable but like 98.8% unreasonable. He's 62-37 since returning in 2009, third best in the conference behind the Oklahomas.
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Deserve is a weird way to put it but how on earth could you not root for us to end the season with him at more than 200 wins? Burn it down in football is a terrible idea.
I think the op is assuming Snyder won't make it this year, and if he doesn't, he shouldn't be allowed to come back just to get that somewhat arbitrary and meaningless milestone. Not entirely unreasonable when phrased that way, even if you disagree.
Not entirely unreasonable but like 98.8% unreasonable. He's 62-37 since returning in 2009, third best in the conference behind the Oklahomas.
Wow! #BID tho. :blank:
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I love bowl wins. :emawkid: :driving:
Absence makes the heart grow fonder.