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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: star seed 7 on October 18, 2016, 07:44:04 PM
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now featuring special guests: the benghazi mom and obama's half brother
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I would probably vote for either, sight unseen, over Don
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rumblings of more guests to still be announced :excited:
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i hope o'keefe leaks them :drool:
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he should put Scott Baio in the audience....
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Probably all russian spies trying to control 'merica
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prediction: donald j trump fakes the handshake and goes right for the snizz
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prediction: donald j trump fakes the handshake and goes right for the snizz
I doubt that would make her flinch. She would probably yell, "Stop that Bill."
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:love:
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Oh look a row of Russian (Pakistani) Hackers!! Welcome!!
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this may be his last chance to get close enough to kill her. since he can't win, it's the only way he can save face now.
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this may be his last chance to get close enough to kill her. since he can't win, it's the only way he can save face now.
I don't think he is alpha enough to do it.
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rumblings of more guests to still be announced :excited:
James O'Keefe!!!
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:lol:
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oh eff yes
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he should put Scott Baio in the audience....
:ROFL:
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Anyone else got Dilbert's periscope going? :excited:
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:zzz:
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This is starting out like the real life version of the debate that was in the fourth season of the West Wing.
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And The Donald sniffs begin.
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bad hombres :lol:
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Top 3 worst thing politicians do is the individual story about some person they claim they know to provide a story about that person's family and some policy.....
The worst
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bad hombres :lol:
so so good
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OK he has said BIGLY multiple times now meaning greatly.
if he was smart, I would say it was an inside joke, but now I think he really thinks its a word
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Russia!
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Looks like Donald put some color in his hair.
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Looks like Donald put some color in his hair.
piss color
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let's talk cyber!
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Oh man, she got him heavy breathing
"YOU ARE THE PUPPET"
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NO YOU ARE!
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Russia :curse:
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Don is actually doing much better this time. Actual prep?
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She's starting to burrow under his skin...
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the wheels are coming off :excited:
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She tries to dress like she is off of a Doctor Who epi that takes place in a future timeline or something.
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90 minutes left :driving:
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"NO PUPPET. NO PUPPET.
YOU'RE THE PUPPET. YOU'RE THE PUPPET."
Jesus Christ, this fat loser is a 70 year-old toddler. :lol:
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Don is actually doing much better this time. Actual prep?
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I thought opposite but seems like he's got her flustered now. :driving:
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Holy crap you guys. Trump is winning this debate. :sdeek:
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"NO PUPPET. NO PUPPET.
YOU'RE THE PUPPET. YOU'RE THE PUPPET."
Jesus Christ, this fat loser is a 70 year-old toddler. :lol:
I'd love to have a who's a bigger puppet discussion at a later time
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Holy crap you guys. Trump is winning this debate. :sdeek:
"you are the puppet" isn't winning...seems his drugs keeping him calm at the beginning wore off.
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Holy crap you guys. Trump is winning this debate. :sdeek:
Uhh...no?
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I hope that the biggest jobs program since WW2 isn't WW3.
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Holy crap you guys. Trump is winning this debate. :sdeek:
"you are the puppet" isn't winning...seems his drugs keeping him calm at the beginning wore off.
So the first person that says "you are the puppet" unprovoked is in control, but the second person is childish? :dunno:
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very alpha move, yes
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lol at Donald going back go Japan and Saudi Arabia when asked about the economy :lol:
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Yeah toddler responses typically aren't winning.
This guy just bounced backed to a prior topic instead of pimping his economic plan...
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"We're going to deal with college tuition."
How, Einstein?
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Holy crap you guys. Trump is winning this debate. :sdeek:
Uhh...no?
I'm sure he'll run out of steam, but him calling her out on pivoting from immigration to Russia was very Christie vs. Rubio talking points-esque.
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He wants other countries to pay their nato bill as part of his economic plan. Does that mean we will cut defense since other countries will be paying their share?
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Um, one of them interrupted yelling into the microphone and said it four rough ridin' times. That's literally a trait of children who haven't yet learned how to behave and have rational conversations. Go back and watch that entire response/exchange again. Try to make a case that they both look equally childish. Jfc, catastrophe.
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the only L for hill so far in this one is the brazil banking illuminati NWO speech.
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Holy crap you guys. Trump is winning this debate. :sdeek:
Uhh...no?
I'm sure he'll run out of steam, but him calling her out on pivoting from immigration to Russia was very Christie vs. Rubio talking points-esque.
Good God, man, his rant ended up going all over the room like one of those dumb ass kids in the Family Circus.
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Hills presidency is already marred by unsightly lipstick teeth.
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Um, one of them interrupted yelling into the microphone and said it four rough ridin' times. That's literally a trait of children who haven't yet learned how to behave and have rational conversations. Go back and watch that entire response/exchange again. Try to make a case that they both look equally childish. Jfc, catastrophe.
FTR, I was referring to the entire debate at that point. It's a stupid and untopical comment from Clinton in the first place. A stupid and abrasive response from Trump. I don't think that moment shines well on either candidate.
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The ppl that dig dons talking point about us not making things any more won't be able to afford any of that stuff once we make it here again.
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Hillary Clinton is so absurdly full of crap.
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Hillary relying on her notes a lot. Donald acting up unnecessarily again. Both flailing.
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crocodile tears :excited:
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jealous of india and china :lol:
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The ppl that dig dons talking point about us not making things any more won't be able to afford any of that stuff once we make it here again.
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A lot of those people don't have jobs, so if they get to work in a Nike shoe-making factory in Detroit, they'll at least be able to afford something.
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she destroyed him with that thirty years bit :lol:
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Posted this last time: podcast I heard a while back noted that 80% of jobs lost since NAFTA was signed have been lost to automation, not foreign labor. We should outlaw robots and computers?
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Her 30 years of experience is rough ridin' pathetic. It's all volunteer stuff any idiot can do. :lol:
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But she should have changed a bunch.of laws and stuff!
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Holy Christ, did he just say they paid people $1500 to start riots?
Huh?
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Posted this last time: podcast I heard a while back noted that 80% of jobs lost since NAFTA was signed have been lost to automation, not foreign labor. We should outlaw robots and computers?
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So 20% lost to nafta per that report, thanks for clarifying.
:rolleyes:
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Fitness question - Trump already loses this round. He should just take a break and rest up for the next round.
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"America is great because America is good."
Put it on a hat, Hillary!
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Posted this last time: podcast I heard a while back noted that 80% of jobs lost since NAFTA was signed have been lost to automation, not foreign labor. We should outlaw robots and computers?
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So 20% lost to nafta per that report, thanks for clarifying.
:rolleyes:
It wasn't all NAFTA and automation
#math
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"no one has more respect for women than me"
:lol:
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The ppl that dig dons talking point about us not making things any more won't be able to afford any of that stuff once we make it here again.
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Don repping that tp is the worst thing for it but at least those ppl would be making something
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"no one has more respect for women than me"
:lol:
*audible laughter from audience*
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He just pant suited her on the emails.
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Holy Christ, did he just say they paid people $1500 to start riots?
Huh?
Yup. Check the #1 trending on YouTube
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James O'keefe's show on the Trump News Network is gonna be great
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James O'keefe's show on the Trump News Network is gonna be great
honestly can't wait
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Holy Christ, did he just say they paid people $1500 to start riots?
Huh?
Yup. Check the #1 trending on YouTube
I get news from news sites. Not YouTube.
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she dodging that false flag tape. confession?
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Moderator just called out Hillary for dodging the question and Trump jumps in and saves her from having to answer.
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Clinton Foundation :ROFL:
Just humiliated
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Moderator just called out Hillary for dodging the question and Trump jumps in and saves her from having to answer.
He just can't help himself.
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Holy Christ, did he just say they paid people $1500 to start riots?
Huh?
Yup. Check the #1 trending on YouTube
I get news from news sites. Not YouTube.
That explains it.
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Moderator: Yes, but Secretary Clinton, you're not answering...
Trump: I want to talk about the Trump Foundation
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6' portrait vs $25M from saudis. Pffft.
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Moderator just called out Hillary for dodging the question and Trump jumps in and saves her from having to answer.
He just won't let her lose.
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Annnnnnnnd meltdown.
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Tax returns won't effect anything. I mean, given sexual assault barely moved the poll needle, some stupid and legal tax issues won't mean crap.
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ooh rigged talk :excited:
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she needs a better answer for the Saudi money thing
But Trump, man. :lol:
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media :curse:
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If it wasn't political, the Saudi answer is the same as his answer to his Chinese steel and his taxes
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OUR MINDS HAVE BEEN POISONED!!
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He has too many lower teeth I think
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Holy Christ, did he just say they paid people $1500 to start riots?
Huh?
Yup. Check the #1 trending on YouTube
I get news from news sites. Not YouTube.
That explains it.
Adjust your tinfoil, stunz. It's slipping to the left.
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Trump right now...
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/8-31-2015/EA3aJT.gif)
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I've concluded Trump is incapable of acting presidential for more than 30 minutes at a time.
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He will rule via twitter, so that doesn't matter.
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I've concluded Trump is incapable of acting presidential for more than 30 minutes at a time.
Should be fine for America.
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his best moment was the emmy conspiracy acknowledgement. was pretty great.
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Hillary just went Eric Stratton
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OK he has said BIGLY multiple times now meaning greatly.
if he was smart, I would say it was an inside joke, but now I think he really thinks its a word
Bigly is an adverb, puni, and an actual proper word.
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These moderators chastising the audience for making noise really just highlights their reactions.
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It's okay to rig crap against #bern, and he should honorably concede
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his best moment was the emmy conspiracy acknowledgement. was pretty great.
Well known pickup move. Agree and amplify. Neutralizes her crap test.
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OK he has said BIGLY multiple times now meaning greatly.
if he was smart, I would say it was an inside joke, but now I think he really thinks its a word
Bigly is an adverb, puni, and an actual proper word.
Confirmed:
Related forms [of "Big"]
biggish, adjective
bigly, adverb
Synonyms
1. huge, immense; bulky, massive; capacious, voluminous; extensive. See great. 4. consequential. 15. overflowing, flooded.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/bigly?s=t
Trump knows words you don't. :ROFL:
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Hillary Clinton sucks so hard, just the worst kind of politician.
Too bad Trump didn't take the time to learn anything.
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OK he has said BIGLY multiple times now meaning greatly.
if he was smart, I would say it was an inside joke, but now I think he really thinks its a word
Bigly is an adverb, puni, and an actual proper word.
Confirmed:
Related forms [of "Big"]
biggish, adjective
bigly, adverb
Synonyms
1. huge, immense; bulky, massive; capacious, voluminous; extensive. See great. 4. consequential. 15. overflowing, flooded.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/bigly?s=t
Trump knows words you don't. :ROFL:
well that's awesome then
he has my vote
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JK DICTIONARY DOT COM IS RIGGED, PUPPET
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You can tell Trump stopped paying attention after the 30-45 minute mark and just decided he wanted to rant about crap.
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Google?
RIGGED!
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YOU ARE UNFIT!
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The, 'when we got Bin Laden while you were filming Celebrity Apprentice' was a kill shot.
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"YOU are the one who's unfit"
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:lol:
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You know who has bad judgment, Don? The guy who would rather hear himself talk than let Hillary hang herself up there.
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Arguing with the moderator!
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Trump: Have you seen it? Have you seen it? Have you seen it?
Wallace: Uh, yes?
Trump: Have you seen it? Have you seen it?
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Arguing with the moderator!
it's so great
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Her 30 years of experience is rough ridin' pathetic. It's all volunteer stuff any idiot can do. :lol:
Yes, whichis why so many herp derps with guns were able to find and kill Bin Laden.
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"Lots of luck Hillary"
Did he just give her the POTUS?
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He's 3 for 3 on going off the rails at around 75 minutes in.
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He quit
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trim was right
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He quit
he should.....grab....her....NAH
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You'd think in 30 years of business, Donald would've learned how to make his tie knot look halfway respectable instead of like complete garbage.
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It seriously looks like it has an elbow
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She went full psychobabble on syria
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He just can't get out of his own way
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Donald's tie knot is fortune cookie shaped.
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Donald's tie knot is fortune cookie shaped.
clip*
* Made in China
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The election was over the minute he said that he'd keep us in suspense on whether or not he'd accept the election.
This could end up looking like Bush/Dukakis.
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If his tie knot were a clock, its hands would read 6:47. :sdeek:
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Listening to her talk about the economy or foreign policy is so rough ridin' funny.
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Does Don know how percents work?
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Her and b.o. are for the middle class and against the rich, but nobody fucks the middle class harder.
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Does Don know how percents work?
Of course he does. His tie knot is a pie graph showing right around 75%.
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'such a nasty woman'
:driving:
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Sexist!
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Why doesn't this guy moderate all the debates.
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Why doesn't this guy moderate all the debates.
He was good
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Ivanka wins tonight as usual :drool:
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Donald might actually have had a shot at the presidency if he could have arranged six 30 minute debates.
or maybe one 20 minute debate.
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Ivanka wins tonight as usual :drool:
maybe she hasn't seen asian male genitals before bro
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Why question the election process dude? No blue blood likes that type of talk.
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Why doesn't this guy moderate all the debates.
He was good
I liked him. :thumbs:
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Why doesn't this guy moderate all the debates.
He was good
much more fair and balanced
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Trump's final remarks will resonate with people who want change. What scares me is his post debate tweets.
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In perhaps the biggest letdown of my life (rivaled only by the time I opened the new box of pop tarts to find that I had accidentally bought the un-frosted kind), I turned the channel to ABC to watch blackish and instead this appeared on my screen:
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https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/788939737885048832
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his girl thought she won, even the most alpha of alphas will bend a little for some hot tranny poon (peen?)
i know i have :fatty:
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How crazy does someone have to be to pretend like these are "debates" under any sense of the word, and then pretend to score them. Like trying to calculate 3p% while watching batting practice.
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you shut it mate
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She is such a terrible debater, historically bad; yet here we are with her literally debating with an ADHD addled half man half chimpanzee without impulse control.
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well donald's obviously going to lose and probably in a landslide. hopefully his dipshit ideas and style of campaign go by the wayside along with him.
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Watching post-debate focus groups on ESPN make me lose faith in humanity.
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She is such a terrible debater, historically bad; yet here we are with her literally debating with an ADHD addled half man half chimpanzee without impulse control.
:rolleyes: Wow!
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Buckle up folks
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She is such a terrible debater, historically bad; yet here we are with her literally debating with an ADHD addled half man half chimpanzee without impulse control.
I think this is a pretty fair assessment of the debate.
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Buckle up folks
what were you saying about impulse control?
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Watching post-debate focus groups on ESPN make me lose faith in humanity.
ESPN is doing debate stuff? They need to get the eff out of politics
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ADHD: fair game!!!- MIR
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"Champinzee"- MIR
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"She"- MIR (smdh)
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Watching post-debate focus groups on ESPN make me lose faith in humanity.
ESPN is doing debate stuff? They need to get the eff out of politics
I was wondering if that was something that needed to be corrected, certainly he was wrong about what channel he was watching, right?
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"Champinzee"- MIR
Remove the quotes, I'm a much better speller than that.
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God bless you! Will pray! #stopthehate
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Why doesn't this guy moderate all the debates.
He was good
wallace is a genuine american badass.
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Best part for me:
NO PUPPET! NO PUPPET! YOU'RE THE PUPPET! YOU'RE THE PUPPET!
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Best part for me:
NO PUPPET! NO PUPPET! YOU'RE THE PUPPET! YOU'RE THE PUPPET!
/debate
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Posted this last time: podcast I heard a while back noted that 80% of jobs lost since NAFTA was signed have been lost to automation, not foreign labor. We should outlaw robots and computers?
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I think the other 20% is worth talking about. :dunno:
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Posted this last time: podcast I heard a while back noted that 80% of jobs lost since NAFTA was signed have been lost to automation, not foreign labor. We should outlaw robots and computers?
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I think the other 20% is worth talking about. :dunno:
Agreed. However, discussing them like its going to take Detroit and make it what it was is silly. Also, I don't think that it is something that can be made a primary issue in a campaign. I mean, we are talking about taking very low paying jobs away from mexico. What do you do then, make them high paying jobs making those products much more expensive? I mean, Pubs lost their crap over the burger guys wanting $15/hr yet we will give it to someone who presses a button on the side of a sneaker making machine? Are we going to dictate to biz where they can make product? None of that is conservative in nature.
Its all bullshit that makes ppl that don't think in detail say "eff yes!" and think about the four wheeler they want to buy with all their shoe maker button pressing money that they will have under President Trump.
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wacky, everything going alright for you?
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A lot of my product's high-value components come from Mexico or Canada even, because it's cheaper to make them there and ship them here. Anecdotal, I know, and honestly I'm not sure of what the solution is, of it there is a good one. But if those jobs were here they'd be good paying jobs.
I think one thing that is not considered often, is that these imported products are cheaper because these other countries don't have the safety and environmental regulations we have in this country. So we pay less for the same widget we could have made ourselves, but it comes at a human cost (safety) of someone we don't care about because they live in a foreign country. That's unfortunate. And then there's the environmental cost. I would even argue that the environmental cost is even higher because of the fossil fuels burned to get product here.
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A lot of my product's high-value components come from Mexico or Canada even, because it's cheaper to make them there and ship them here. Anecdotal, I know, and honestly I'm not sure of what the solution is, of it there is a good one. But if those jobs were here they'd be good paying jobs.
I think one thing that is not considered often, is that these imported products are cheaper because these other countries don't have the safety and environmental regulations we have in this country. So we pay less for the same widget we could have made ourselves, but it comes at a human cost (safety) of someone we don't care about because they live in a foreign country. That's unfortunate. And then there's the environmental cost. I would even argue that the environmental cost is even higher because of the fossil fuels burned to get product here.
If trade were restricted and those jobs were here, your product would be more expensive, which might put your job in jeopardy.
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I agree with you about the human and enviro cost. Maybe they should extend our regulations so that any US biz has to ensure those regs are met as if they are being manufactured in the US.
That said, part of it is just plain old cheap labor due to living costs.
One of my manufacturers make all their components in MX as well. MX is no dummy. Many areas are forcing companies to provide all kinds of stuff as part of their starting up a plant. For instance, they had to provide a certain standard of meals, child care, and even an onsite med clinic for use by all workers and their families. Even given that, they still saved enough money to justify building a huge plant from scratch just across the boarder.
Another of the manufacturers I use has a very similar story, but on a smaller scale. However, the rest of his story is that he is not only saving a crap load of money, but the paint finish he provides is crazy superior to what he can do in his California plant because the material used was banned by our govt in the '60's, or something, according to him. Our regulations don't prohibit a product having that finish, but prohibit the application of the finish to the product.
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Posted this last time: podcast I heard a while back noted that 80% of jobs lost since NAFTA was signed have been lost to automation, not foreign labor. We should outlaw robots and computers?
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I think the other 20% is worth talking about. :dunno:
Agreed. However, discussing them like its going to take Detroit and make it what it was is silly. Also, I don't think that it is something that can be made a primary issue in a campaign. I mean, we are talking about taking very low paying jobs away from mexico. What do you do then, make them high paying jobs making those products much more expensive? I mean, Pubs lost their crap over the burger guys wanting $15/hr yet we will give it to someone who presses a button on the side of a sneaker making machine? Are we going to dictate to biz where they can make product? None of that is conservative in nature.
Its all bullshit that makes ppl that don't think in detail say "eff yes!" and think about the four wheeler they want to buy with all their shoe maker button pressing money that they will have under President Trump.
Not an anti-free trade guy, but the vast majority of the jobs "created" during this so-called recovery are low paying part time jobs. That evident by the stagnant/declining wage growth. Obamacare and new flsa rules have contributed enormously to that problem, but also the lost of manf jobs overseas. When faced with a low paying job without benefits (e.g, waitresd) and a low paying steady 40 with benefits (e.g. rivet installer), the country stands to gain. Labor unions would have to have a come to jesus moment to get the jobs back to detroit, but the jobs could realistically be "decent paying" in smaller communities across the midwest and south.
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Canada has more lax regulations and lower costs of labor? I find that hard to believe.
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What is "decent paying", though.
I mean, there is a reason why immigrants risk everything to get to this country then are willing to work below min wage.
I don't see how you can compete with that level of discrepancy and provide something any American will see as decent. :dunno:
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Canada has more lax regulations and lower costs of labor? I find that hard to believe.
I'm not sure why it is the way it is w.r.t. Canada, but we import a lot from them, stuff we used to do ourselves.
Anyway my comment on safety and environmental regulations apply to China and other places like that too.
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The problem with the enviro stuff is that there would be no way to ensure it's being followed without simply telling the companies that China has crap emissions and you can't produce there. Then you land on another country with gray area type behavior. Then you need a mechanism to monitor that gray area to make sure it doesn't shift to make it's manufacturing more attractive. Then you need a body to address that.
I don't see how we do this in an open market system.
Conservative business owners are the real globalists. To try to reconcile that with wanting to bring jobs back would require conservatives to adjust their platform. Either consent to more regulation(similar to the above), or be told who you can do biz with by the govt(and not for security reasons). It would basically be us imposing economic sanctions on certain countries without any security issue having come up. It would be pretty cluster-eff'ey.
Pubs need to be discussing ways to create new types of jobs rather than bringing back jobs we have lost. The problem with that is it quickly leads to addressing education, and no Pub wants to go down that road.
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wacky, everything going alright for you?
he needs a sandwich
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Watching post-debate focus groups on ESPN make me lose faith in humanity.
ESPN is doing debate stuff? They need to get the eff out of politics
I was wondering if that was something that needed to be corrected, certainly he was wrong about what channel he was watching, right?
It was CNN. Brain freeze.
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What is "decent paying", though.
I mean, there is a reason why immigrants risk everything to get to this country then are willing to work below min wage.
I don't see how you can compete with that level of discrepancy and provide something any American will see as decent. :dunno:
$15 p/hr in dinkleberg, usa is decent paying enough to buy (finance) a house, used pickup and even a bass boat, and still have money left over for beer, smokes and beef. Particularly if mama works a couple night shifts.
When you factor in efficiencies, the value of skilled labor, and the cost of transporting manf goods, it's probably close from a cost standpoint.
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31k a year is much harder to live on than you imagine
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Also shipping costs are much lower than you imagine
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The environmental cost in the U.S. is ridic when compared to other countries. Environmental costs are a small reason why the jobs are leaving and probably not the main one, but I find it interesting. I had a rather large manufacturing client who was fined into bankruptcy by the EPA for incomplete paperwork. Were they hurting the environment or people? No. They just didn't have some paper together like they should and weren't following the "law." I realize that this is a random example, but I don't know of any other country where a manufacturing company would close for the same infractions. Why would companies in the U.S. want to put up with that kind of stuff?
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trim was right
What happened when you posted this that made you come around?
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Also shipping costs are much lower than you imagine
also, the cost of beef lately is much more than you imagine.
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The environmental cost in the U.S. is ridic when compared to other countries. Environmental costs are a small reason why the jobs are leaving and probably not the main one, but I find it interesting. I had a rather large manufacturing client who was fined into bankruptcy by the EPA for incomplete paperwork. Were they hurting the environment or people? No. They just didn't have some paper together like they should and weren't following the "law." I realize that this is a random example, but I don't know of any other country where a manufacturing company would close for the same infractions. Why would companies in the U.S. want to put up with that kind of stuff?
Sounds like it was run by idiots, not sure how you place the blame on the government when everyone else is able to fill out rough ridin' paperwork
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The environmental cost in the U.S. is ridic when compared to other countries. Environmental costs are a small reason why the jobs are leaving and probably not the main one, but I find it interesting. I had a rather large manufacturing client who was fined into bankruptcy by the EPA for incomplete paperwork. Were they hurting the environment or people? No. They just didn't have some paper together like they should and weren't following the "law." I realize that this is a random example, but I don't know of any other country where a manufacturing company would close for the same infractions. Why would companies in the U.S. want to put up with that kind of stuff?
Shitty implementation of "the right idea" is the problem. We can't just eff off because some developing country somewhere else is ok with doing it. That leads to a complete crap show.
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The environmental cost in the U.S. is ridic when compared to other countries. Environmental costs are a small reason why the jobs are leaving and probably not the main one, but I find it interesting. I had a rather large manufacturing client who was fined into bankruptcy by the EPA for incomplete paperwork. Were they hurting the environment or people? No. They just didn't have some paper together like they should and weren't following the "law." I realize that this is a random example, but I don't know of any other country where a manufacturing company would close for the same infractions. Why would companies in the U.S. want to put up with that kind of stuff?
Sounds like it was run by idiots, not sure how you place the blame on the government when everyone else is able to fill out rough ridin' paperwork
Laws are only as good as enforcement. This company was the unlucky of the 0.0001% that got inspected and got caught. At the time we didn't know a single company that was complying with that law.
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But everyone else was speeding too!!!
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The environmental cost in the U.S. is ridic when compared to other countries. Environmental costs are a small reason why the jobs are leaving and probably not the main one, but I find it interesting. I had a rather large manufacturing client who was fined into bankruptcy by the EPA for incomplete paperwork. Were they hurting the environment or people? No. They just didn't have some paper together like they should and weren't following the "law." I realize that this is a random example, but I don't know of any other country where a manufacturing company would close for the same infractions. Why would companies in the U.S. want to put up with that kind of stuff?
Shitty implementation of "the right idea" is the problem. We can't just eff off because some developing country somewhere else is ok with doing it. That leads to a complete crap show.
I'm not saying we should piss on environmental issues. You bet your ass that manufacturing companies relocate because labor and environmental compliance costs are so much lower.
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Well, yeah. See my post a few posts up.
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trim was right
What happened when you posted this that made you come around?
it was more in response to steve dave's "he quit" comment than any personal change of heart or anything. think that was right around his concession
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Best part for me:
NO PUPPET! NO PUPPET! YOU'RE THE PUPPET! YOU'RE THE PUPPET!
That was the point that has best defined Trump to me throughout the entire campaign. I spent a part of my life working with young children; that point in the debate brought that experience back to me with me literally laughing out loud. What would he do with other world leaders in meetings and conflict?
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But everyone else was speeding too!!!
I'd equate it to a sign saying: "Speed Limit 45 MPH*"
*Refer to section 40.67.47.8.3333.6 part b for additional requirements**
**If you are in a 3 axle or more vehicle refer to ***
***Speed limit is 30.5679 MPH for 3+ axle vehicles, unless manufactured on or before August 30, 2015. Refer to section A.567.533.6.3 (c) (d) (1) (i) Compliance of this speed limit will be determined by taking the weighted average of travel speed over a period of consecutive rolling averages over a period not to exceed 15 second increments. Records of this determined travel speed shall be maintained and kept for a minimum of 5 years.
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Pretty much any world leader should want Don to win. It would be the easiest thing in the world to flatter that ego and lead him.
I mean, you could just throw out big nonsense words/phrases like Cyber Modulator, or Ergonomic Insulation Intensifier, then end with something about how you wouldn't dare dream of moving forward with out the approval of such an informed leader, who you secretly respect more than (insert other leader here) and yet we need to move fast to bigly ensure hydro-static acoustical ambivalence is optimal for us and not ISIS.
Boom, he would agree to what you told him to agree to.
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Pretty much any world leader should want Don to win. It would be the easiest thing in the world to flatter that ego and lead him.
I mean, you could just throw out big nonsense words/phrases like Cyber Modulator, or Ergonomic Insulation Intensifier, then end with something about how you wouldn't dare dream of moving forward with out the approval of such an informed leader, who you secretly respect more than (insert other leader here) and yet we need to move fast to bigly ensure hydro-static acoustical ambivalence is optimal for us and not ISIS.
Boom, he would agree to what you told him to agree to.
You would have to be very worried about the fallout of some other leader being a dick to him, though.
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I don't know.....I mean, he's only going to be there 4 yrs.
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I don't know.....I mean, he's only going to be there 4 yrs.
Never count out the incumbent in an election.
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I only see two scenarios where Hillary gets another 4 years (because she's obviously winning this thing):
1. She gets us into a war with Russia (possible); or
2. The Republican party continues to be a fragmented crap show (very possible).
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Give peace a chance Hillary
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I don't know.....I mean, he's only going to be there 4 yrs.
He will blame that on Hillary and Obama as well.
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31k a year is much harder to live on than you imagine
That's not what we're talking about libtard. Mailmen start at what, $26k, and that's considered a "decent" job in the lower-middle class category. Still better than barista part time money in the obamaconomy.
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if I had the choice to be a mailman or barista I'd choose mailman. blue shorts and driving on the wrong side of the car like a whacko englishman :love:
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But everyone else was speeding too!!!
I'd equate it to a sign saying: "Speed Limit 45 MPH*"
*Refer to section 40.67.47.8.3333.6 part b for additional requirements**
**If you are in a 3 axle or more vehicle refer to ***
***Speed limit is 30.5679 MPH for 3+ axle vehicles, unless manufactured on or before August 30, 2015. Refer to section A.567.533.6.3 (c) (d) (1) (i) Compliance of this speed limit will be determined by taking the weighted average of travel speed over a period of consecutive rolling averages over a period not to exceed 15 second increments. Records of this determined travel speed shall be maintained and kept for a minimum of 5 years.
The EPA probably has the most arcane regulatory system imaginable. You don't need to explain that to the non-retards. It's a paperwork blackhole.
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as a barista, you could maintain an approximate $20k a yr coffee habit without a problem.
It's basically like doubling your salary.
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this may be his last chance to get close enough to kill her. since he can't win, it's the only way he can save face now.
I don't think he is alpha enough to do it.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/clinton-probably-finished-off-trump-last-night/
looks to be too late now. given his stated position that electing clinton will doom america, his inaction reveals himself to be a fraud or a craven.
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i don't wish to be uncharitable. possibly he was waiting until the end to deliver the deathblow, wishing to give himself a chance at a debating victory first, but when the fateful moment came he was undone by his lack of stamina.
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Is this how that 3d chess works? seemed like she kinda sucked but you can't argue with the results
Trump’s meltdown wasn’t an accident. The Clinton campaign coolly analyzed his weaknesses and then sprung trap after trap to take advantage of them
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We aren’t used to this kind of victory. We aren’t used to candidates winning not so much because of how they performed but because of how they pushed their opponent into performing. But the fact that we aren’t used to this kind of victory doesn’t make it any less impressive. Hillary Clinton has humbled Donald Trump, and she did it her way.
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/788778465818476544
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he got silverbacked
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And Trump knows he got silverbacked
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/videos/a49810/trump-rip-paper-notes-debate/
https://twitter.com/TheFix/status/789090575249125376
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Clinton taking credit for donald not preparing for a debate is about as genuine as clinton pumping her A+ foreign policy credentials, or her A+ economic plan which is basically the obamanomics anchor all over.
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As soon as the Russians got involved, he tanked. Lol at Russia
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Pretty much Putin's exact expectation/hope for a Don presidency
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