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Title: Snyder Things
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 13, 2016, 11:31:57 AM
What will you and won't you miss about the old codger?
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 13, 2016, 11:34:44 AM
I was going to name the thread Snyderisms but I googled it and it came up in urban dictionary as referring to the phallus(Phyllis lapin vance) in unrelated subject matters..  :sdeek:
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: Brock Landers on October 13, 2016, 11:35:12 AM
Hmm probably the windbreaker.  It's one of the things that defines his gameday look.  It will be weird seeing the next coach just wearing a polo shirt on a hot September Saturday.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: DQ12 on October 13, 2016, 11:42:17 AM
yellow tie
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: MakeItRain on October 13, 2016, 11:44:53 AM
Hmm probably the windbreaker.  It's one of the things that defines his gameday look.  It will be weird seeing the next coach just wearing a polo shirt on a hot September Saturday.
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Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: Steffy08 on October 13, 2016, 11:45:05 AM
By and large, I will miss his use of the word--as they say--youngsters, more or less.

Really, I will miss everything about him.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: wetwillie on October 13, 2016, 11:46:44 AM
I really have a soft spot for his undying loyalty to his coaching staff
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: _33 on October 13, 2016, 11:46:56 AM
I will miss everything and nothing.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 13, 2016, 11:47:16 AM
It will be weird not having a neek.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: Brock Landers on October 13, 2016, 11:54:14 AM
hahaha touché, MIR
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: Pete on October 13, 2016, 11:55:22 AM
I will miss everything and nothing.


I vote for this too
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: kslim on October 13, 2016, 12:18:57 PM
the schemes
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: The Big Train on October 13, 2016, 12:22:03 PM
Getting a little bit better every day
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: NeverII on October 13, 2016, 12:35:23 PM
I will miss everything and nothing.

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Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: scottwildcat on October 13, 2016, 12:36:32 PM
as long as we hire someone who doesn't suck i won't miss a single thing tbh.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: That_Guy on October 13, 2016, 12:50:23 PM
I'm starting to warm up to this P.J. Fleck guy.


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Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: Winters on October 13, 2016, 12:52:13 PM
I'm starting to warm up to this P.J. Fleck guy.


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Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 13, 2016, 01:54:58 PM
He's the only coach in the history of the Earth to have gotten a ref to retroactively throw a flag for two players wearing the same jersey number.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: Katpappy on October 13, 2016, 02:02:48 PM
Hmm probably the windbreaker.  It's one of the things that defines his gameday look.  It will be weird seeing the next coach just wearing a polo shirt on a hot September Saturday.
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I'm starting to like this guy.  :love:
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: CNS on October 13, 2016, 02:47:48 PM
Can someone link me to the start of all this? (Not the OP)

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Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 13, 2016, 02:55:40 PM
CNS I was listening to the dance by garth brooks and it had me thinking about Snyds. I'm a hopeless romantic
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 13, 2016, 02:56:26 PM
I hope he still comes to basketball games after he retires and blows kisses to the crowd when they show him on the jumbotron
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: catastrophe on October 13, 2016, 03:25:05 PM
He's the only coach in the history of the Earth to have gotten a ref to retroactively throw a flag for two players wearing the same jersey number.

Such a badass moment.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: Kat Kid on October 13, 2016, 03:30:38 PM
Oh great idea.  Basketball games where he blows kisses is very big power move.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: Panjandrum on October 13, 2016, 03:37:42 PM
Dry sarcasm that is as effective as it is surprising.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: deputy dawg on October 13, 2016, 03:41:06 PM
Use of a look of concern in place of an expression of anger.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: CNS on October 13, 2016, 03:51:58 PM
I will miss everything about the late '90's and almost nothing afterward.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 13, 2016, 04:10:06 PM
I will miss everything about the late '90's and almost nothing afterward.
that's just silly..
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: wazucat on October 13, 2016, 04:11:52 PM
all the little DITR's
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: CNS on October 13, 2016, 04:12:15 PM
I will miss everything about the late '90's and almost nothing afterward.
that's just silly..

I was spoiled, friend.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 13, 2016, 04:15:13 PM
little moments like this just make it all worthwhile

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Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 13, 2016, 04:17:46 PM
I will miss everything about the late '90's and almost nothing afterward.
that's just silly..

I was spoiled, friend.
we were all spoiled everyone can forget about having 10+ win seasons, season after season. College football has evolved
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: CNS on October 13, 2016, 04:18:58 PM
It was so fun, though.

I mean, why can't we just buy some 'cruits and some roids and go nuts?
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: pvegs on October 13, 2016, 08:31:37 PM
bizarre sentence construction that people take for wisdom or coyness but is actually just wrong, misuse of words, overuse of adverbs such as "reasonably"
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 13, 2016, 11:02:37 PM
He doesn't use it often, but no one, I mean no one, is better at sarcasm.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: Steffy08 on October 14, 2016, 06:30:38 AM
It was so fun, though.

I mean, why can't we just buy some 'cruits and some roids and go nuts?

Well, Baylor's coaches will be available as a package deal soon.  Probably get them at a discount, but they are guaranteed to deliver roads and recruits (not to mention some rapes, stallings, assaults, and dog beatings)
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: slackcat on October 14, 2016, 06:56:31 AM
Won't miss mouth twitch.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: kslim on October 14, 2016, 07:30:57 AM
It was so fun, though.

I mean, why can't we just buy some 'cruits and some roids and go nuts?

Well, Baylor's coaches will be available as a package deal soon.  Probably get them at a discount, but they are guaranteed to deliver roads and recruits (not to mention some rapes, stallings, assaults, and dog beatings)
dont forget wins, wins are kinda a big deal in that trade
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: Kat Kid on October 14, 2016, 07:33:50 AM
I like the pre-game coffee in a styrofoam cup routine.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: PurpleOil on October 14, 2016, 07:50:06 AM
It was so fun, though.

I mean, why can't we just buy some 'cruits and some roids and go nuts?

Someone already beat me to it, but yeah, because we're not a bunch of lying, cheating, raping dirtbags named Baylor.

I will miss having a much beloved and universally respected by all his peers, coach associated with this university. I was always damn proud at how many coaches would publicly speak out against another coach on the rare occasion that Snyder would get snubbed on the after game handshake. Jim Mora, Gary Pinkle, and that rough riding skidmark Bo Pelini have all had to give explanations for their actions because they chose to act like children towards a man of unquestionable character.

I too am a fan of P. J. Fleck and wouldn't mind seeing him come here. Knowing this, we're all but guaranteed not to get him because John Currie is the type of guy to screw up a rough riding wet dream.   
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 14, 2016, 09:32:18 AM
Working until early morning but not actually working actually just leaving his car at Vanier like George Costanza.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 14, 2016, 09:37:07 AM
I will miss everything about the late '90's and almost nothing afterward.
that's just silly..

I was spoiled, friend.

Spoiled with all those late 90's conference championships I bet.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: MadCat on October 14, 2016, 09:44:54 AM
Nike Cortez
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: kstatefan11 on October 14, 2016, 10:08:57 AM
Van Halen, Asia, and U2.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: MadCat on October 14, 2016, 10:11:18 AM
Queen
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: kso_FAN on October 14, 2016, 10:15:42 AM
I'll miss a lot about Snyder. If the next guy wins, it will be easier to move on, but Snyder will still be remembered fondly by me. In my mind he is synonymous with K-State football. And really if you are truly saying you'll miss "nothing", give me a break. That is so stupid and ridiculous. Half of us (or more) probably wouldn't even be posting on this board (or any K-State social media) if it wasn't for LHC Bill Snyder. Honestly, some of you really piss me off when you say stuff like that if you really mean it.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: schreds21 on October 14, 2016, 10:19:52 AM
I'll miss a lot about Snyder. If the next guy wins, it will be easier to move on, but Snyder will still be remembered fondly by me. In my mind he is synonymous with K-State football. And really if you are truly saying you'll miss "nothing", give me a break. That is so stupid and ridiculous. Half of us (or more) probably wouldn't even be posting on this board (or any K-State social media) if it wasn't for LHC LHC Bill Snyder. Honestly, some of you really piss me off when you say stuff like that if you really mean it.
Kick their asses, _Fan!!
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 14, 2016, 10:23:20 AM
I'm also gonna miss his aura/magic like it doesn't matter the game I usually feel no matter what that we've got a chance in it.


Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: Trim on October 14, 2016, 10:26:38 AM
I've missed him since 2004.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: kso_FAN on October 14, 2016, 10:40:20 AM
Even if you remove Snyder 1.0 I'm very happy with Snyder.

7+ seasons
.632 overall winning percentage
.603 Big 12 winnning percentage
6 bowl appearances
1 BCS Bowl
1 conference title
3 Top 3 finishes in the league
3 Top 20 finishes in the nation
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: Snydercat34 on October 14, 2016, 10:57:08 AM
Anybody listen to the LHC Bill Snyder Show last night?
His memory is getting the best of him unless he said the following purposely but why he would do that I'm not sure. Anyway, he was asked by a caller:  what were some of his most memorable wins here and he said the first win vs. Northern Iowa and then the Big 12 Championship game in '97 or '98, he couldn't seem to remember which of those two seasons, both wrong of course, that win occurred vs. #1 OU. I think it's a combination of his age and corresponding memory loss beginning to set in and two, he's not one to reflect on the past, which could make it harder to remember specific dates or who you beat in your first victory here.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: MadCat on October 14, 2016, 10:59:03 AM
I don't think anyone's forgotten the Championship game in '98.  :frown:
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: ELL3 on October 14, 2016, 11:14:04 AM
Anybody listen to the LHC LHC Bill Snyder Show last night?
His memory is getting the best of him unless he said the following purposely but why he would do that I'm not sure. Anyway, he was asked by a caller:  what were some of his most memorable wins here and he said the first win vs. Northern Iowa and then the Big 12 Championship game in '97 or '98, he couldn't seem to remember which of those two seasons, both wrong of course, that win occurred vs. #1 OU. I think it's a combination of his age and corresponding memory loss beginning to set in and two, he's not one to reflect on the past, which could make it harder to remember specific dates or who you beat in your first victory here.

Northern Iowa (loss to Terry Allen) was his first home game, I noted on one of his weekly teleconfrences (a Monday) he referred to Charles Jones as "JJ" twice, this happens and it's not fun. My dad went through the same thing at the same age, gotta hunch this season is it for Coach Snydes 
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: DOD Take 2 on October 14, 2016, 12:13:51 PM
Anybody listen to the LHC LHC Bill Snyder Show last night?
His memory is getting the best of him unless he said the following purposely but why he would do that I'm not sure. Anyway, he was asked by a caller:  what were some of his most memorable wins here and he said the first win vs. Northern Iowa and then the Big 12 Championship game in '97 or '98, he couldn't seem to remember which of those two seasons, both wrong of course, that win occurred vs. #1 OU. I think it's a combination of his age and corresponding memory loss beginning to set in and two, he's not one to reflect on the past, which could make it harder to remember specific dates or who you beat in your first victory here.

Northern Iowa (loss to Terry Allen) was his first home game, I noted on one of his weekly teleconfrences (a Monday) he referred to Charles Jones as "JJ" twice, this happens and it's not fun. My dad went through the same thing at the same age, gotta hunch this season is it for Coach Snydes

It's entirely possible he took it as most memorable games or most memorable losses and just misheard the question. JJ could also be a nickname for Charles Jones among teammates/coaches that we aren't aware of.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: deputy dawg on October 14, 2016, 12:29:06 PM
Apologies if this has already been posted and I missed it -- ESPN spoke with Snyder after his 77th birthday:

http://www.espn.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/115467/at-77-k-states-snyder-keeps-doing-what-we-do
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: CNS on October 14, 2016, 12:43:13 PM
I will miss everything about the late '90's and almost nothing afterward.
that's just silly..

I was spoiled, friend.

Spoiled with all those late 90's conference championships I bet.

Spoiled with games that are high offensive and defensive parties that were a pure joy to watch vs being frustrated regardless of the game.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: pvegs on October 14, 2016, 12:59:10 PM
styrofoam coffee cups is a good one, especially that one article that said he drinks up to 17 a day  :sdeek: wearing a windbreaker and long pants even when it's like 100 degrees. long bombs off of fake options. god i loved it when we did that in snyder 1.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: 0.42 on October 14, 2016, 01:24:47 PM
taco bell
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: CNS on October 14, 2016, 01:31:35 PM
Our fans have created such a level of lore and morphed Bill into something slightly more than a near deity by explaining away his quirks as some master stroke of genius and as intentional means of squeezing something more out of every little detail that normal mere mortals can't even see, let alone plan around.

The transition from a highly intelligent OCD coach with amazing work ethic and, at very least, slight autism to anyone else will be very interesting.  The new guy better come pre-loaded with his own mythical aura.  Otherwise, he will be some lowly nothing human with bad habits and worse results unless he immediately wins crap loads of games. 

I mean, the next guy can bring in a Huggins-esque first and second crew of kids and be seen as a shitty coach who can't even win with the high recruits if he doesn't go 10-2 or better.   I mean, how quickly do we devolve into calls for shitty try-hards?   
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: DQ12 on October 14, 2016, 01:44:34 PM
Our fans have created such a level of lore and morphed Bill into something slightly more than a near deity by explaining away his quirks as some master stroke of genius and as intentional means of squeezing something more out of every little detail that normal mere mortals can't even see, let alone plan around.

The transition from a highly intelligent OCD coach with amazing work ethic and, at very least, slight autism to anyone else will be very interesting.  The new guy better come pre-loaded with his own mythical aura.  Otherwise, he will be some lowly nothing human with bad habits and worse results unless he immediately wins crap loads of games. 

I mean, the next guy can bring in a Huggins-esque first and second crew of kids and be seen as a shitty coach who can't even win with the high recruits if he doesn't go 10-2 or better.   I mean, how quickly do we devolve into calls for shitty try-hards?
What an absolutely stupid post. 

Ron Prince, of all people, was widely beloved by our fans until at least late into his second year when it became apparent that he didn't know what he was doing.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: kso_FAN on October 14, 2016, 01:46:23 PM
Our fans have created such a level of lore and morphed Bill into something slightly more than a near deity by explaining away his quirks as some master stroke of genius and as intentional means of squeezing something more out of every little detail that normal mere mortals can't even see, let alone plan around.

The transition from a highly intelligent OCD coach with amazing work ethic and, at very least, slight autism to anyone else will be very interesting.  The new guy better come pre-loaded with his own mythical aura.  Otherwise, he will be some lowly nothing human with bad habits and worse results unless he immediately wins crap loads of games. 

I mean, the next guy can bring in a Huggins-esque first and second crew of kids and be seen as a shitty coach who can't even win with the high recruits if he doesn't go 10-2 or better.   I mean, how quickly do we devolve into calls for shitty try-hards?   

The next guy just needs to win at a reasonable rate (8-9 wins per year). Period. Any odd quirks or habits or whatever become endearing when you win or reasons to hate the coach when you lose. At the end of the day its that simple.

I have no problem with our fans perception of Snyder. He built K-State football from nothing and has given us a bunch of seasons full of memories. I'm by no means saying he's a flawless man, but I have no problem with people making him more than perhaps he is.

Regardless, its going to be tough to follow Snyder.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: CNS on October 14, 2016, 01:55:07 PM
Our fans have created such a level of lore and morphed Bill into something slightly more than a near deity by explaining away his quirks as some master stroke of genius and as intentional means of squeezing something more out of every little detail that normal mere mortals can't even see, let alone plan around.

The transition from a highly intelligent OCD coach with amazing work ethic and, at very least, slight autism to anyone else will be very interesting.  The new guy better come pre-loaded with his own mythical aura.  Otherwise, he will be some lowly nothing human with bad habits and worse results unless he immediately wins crap loads of games. 

I mean, the next guy can bring in a Huggins-esque first and second crew of kids and be seen as a shitty coach who can't even win with the high recruits if he doesn't go 10-2 or better.   I mean, how quickly do we devolve into calls for shitty try-hards?
What an absolutely stupid post. 

Ron Prince, of all people, was widely beloved by our fans until at least late into his second year when it became apparent that he didn't know what he was doing.

I certainly don't remember adoration for Ron.  I remember quite a bit of skepticism.  Also, this time around will be harder because of Ron and the outcome.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: DQ12 on October 14, 2016, 02:10:41 PM
Our fans have created such a level of lore and morphed Bill into something slightly more than a near deity by explaining away his quirks as some master stroke of genius and as intentional means of squeezing something more out of every little detail that normal mere mortals can't even see, let alone plan around.

The transition from a highly intelligent OCD coach with amazing work ethic and, at very least, slight autism to anyone else will be very interesting.  The new guy better come pre-loaded with his own mythical aura.  Otherwise, he will be some lowly nothing human with bad habits and worse results unless he immediately wins crap loads of games. 

I mean, the next guy can bring in a Huggins-esque first and second crew of kids and be seen as a shitty coach who can't even win with the high recruits if he doesn't go 10-2 or better.   I mean, how quickly do we devolve into calls for shitty try-hards?
What an absolutely stupid post. 

Ron Prince, of all people, was widely beloved by our fans until at least late into his second year when it became apparent that he didn't know what he was doing.

I certainly don't remember adoration for Ron.  I remember quite a bit of skepticism.  Also, this time around will be harder because of Ron and the outcome.
When he was hired and his subsequent nabbing of Freeman, people were in love with him.  My dad let me skip school one morning in December '05 to go to the 810 Zone in Leawood to see him.  That place was absolutely packed at like, 10 in the morning on a weekday.  I imagine the rest of his catbacker tour that day was similar. 

Months later, k-state had what was probably the most highly attended spring game in its history, simply because Ron asked people to come.

You don't remember the feeling of optimism after the '06 season with true sophomore Freemaw coming back?

You don't remember the RP love after the Prince-stomp drubbing of Texas in '07? 

Your memory is off.  The vast majority of Cat fans were behind him for the majority of his tenure.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: Trim on October 14, 2016, 02:13:00 PM
The vast majority of Cat fans were behind him for the majority of his tenure.

:gocho:
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 14, 2016, 02:13:12 PM
I mean, the next guy can bring in a Huggins-esque first and second crew of kids and be seen as a shitty coach who can't even win with the high recruits if he doesn't go 10-2 or better. 
Nobody should expect a 10 win season right off the bat I feel like the cats will always be a 10 win team every 5 or so years.
Also the new hire if he is what the people want will be given adequate time unless he's just a dumpster fire his first couple of years. But if we hire someone that isn't qualified or we aren't excited about he will have a short leash.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 14, 2016, 02:30:17 PM
Whoever we hire next will probably fail and be fired 3 or 4 years in, but that's just how college football hires work. It might have something to do with Snyder's success, but most college football hires end up as failures, regardless of what school is hiring. It took Michigan 3 hires to get Harbaugh after Carr. Florida still hasn't found their guy after Urban quit. Texas is going to fire Strong either this year or next year. How often do you see a school replace a successful coach with another successful coach?
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: pvegs on October 14, 2016, 02:31:30 PM
Our fans have created such a level of lore and morphed Bill into something slightly more than a near deity by explaining away his quirks as some master stroke of genius and as intentional means of squeezing something more out of every little detail that normal mere mortals can't even see, let alone plan around.

The transition from a highly intelligent OCD coach with amazing work ethic and, at very least, slight autism to anyone else will be very interesting.  The new guy better come pre-loaded with his own mythical aura.  Otherwise, he will be some lowly nothing human with bad habits and worse results unless he immediately wins crap loads of games. 

I mean, the next guy can bring in a Huggins-esque first and second crew of kids and be seen as a shitty coach who can't even win with the high recruits if he doesn't go 10-2 or better.   I mean, how quickly do we devolve into calls for shitty try-hards?
What an absolutely stupid post. 

Ron Prince, of all people, was widely beloved by our fans until at least late into his second year when it became apparent that he didn't know what he was doing.

I certainly don't remember adoration for Ron.  I remember quite a bit of skepticism.  Also, this time around will be harder because of Ron and the outcome.

i didn't live in ks so i can't comment on what it was like on the ground but my reactions were: he isn't qualified, he sounds like an idiot, and he has no connections to kstate.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 14, 2016, 03:28:33 PM
Guys, people went bonkers for Prince. Bonkers. Including CF3. J-Dub however called him Princess from day 1 and never forgave him for walking around the student section during a basketball game.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: kso_FAN on October 14, 2016, 03:47:50 PM
Prince was a roller coaster. I was very skeptical of the hire, but gave him a shot. The beginning was rough, but by the time we beat UT I was on board. KU and the bowl loss brought caution, but a great start with another win against UT had me back. Then the wheels fell off and by the time Nebraska scored 73 I was done.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 14, 2016, 03:50:03 PM
I remember going to the basketball game which was right after the football game against mizzou in 2007 and thinking, holy crap, we're a basketball school.
Title: Snyder Things
Post by: catastrophe on October 14, 2016, 03:54:00 PM
Prince came in with quite a bit of momentum. Getting Freeman was a big deal, as was the defensive coordinator (Rashad something) he brought in (if he had stayed, Ron probably would have been here at least another season or two). Ron didn't have a terrible run for the time he was here compared to the last couple Snyder seasons. It's mostly just the fact we couldn't beat anyone that we were even remotely rivals with in the North.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on October 14, 2016, 03:59:44 PM
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Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: 8manpick on October 14, 2016, 04:01:04 PM
Prince came in with quite a bit of momentum. Getting Freeman was a big deal, as was the defensive coordinator (Rashad something) he brought in (if he had stayed, Ron probably would have been here at least another season or two). Ron didn't have a terrible run for the time he was here compared to the last couple Snyder seasons. It's mostly just the fact we couldn't beat anyone that we were even remotely rivals with in the North.

Raheem Morris, JFC. :facepalm: :dubious:
Title: Snyder Things
Post by: Kat Kid on October 14, 2016, 04:27:26 PM
Prince's initial staff was great.

It included an NFL hc as a coordinator and a successfulish college coach as the other coordinator.  Compared to now it would be a huge upgrade.

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Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 14, 2016, 04:36:44 PM
I agree, a lot of people were excited or at least very cautiously optimistic about Prince.   But then a slow creep came in that gained momentum when it start showing that (as Dlew said) he really didn't know what he was doing.    The mass JC signings, and lack of urgency that I think that's needed at K-State coupled with a lot of high schoolish talk and actions.

Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: catastrophe on October 14, 2016, 04:59:07 PM
Prince came in with quite a bit of momentum. Getting Freeman was a big deal, as was the defensive coordinator (Rashad something) he brought in (if he had stayed, Ron probably would have been here at least another season or two). Ron didn't have a terrible run for the time he was here compared to the last couple Snyder seasons. It's mostly just the fact we couldn't beat anyone that we were even remotely rivals with in the North.

Raheem Morris, JFC. :facepalm: :dubious:

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Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: cfbandyman on October 14, 2016, 05:32:47 PM
Prince lost me when we lost to ku at home in '07. Coincidentally also the time any love for Freeman was gone as well. Agree with CF3 about the Mizzou game '07. It was such a weird game, and people cheering for Mizzou after the game to beat ku, worse way to start my freshman year.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 14, 2016, 05:36:20 PM
Prince lost me when we lost to ku at home in '07. Coincidentally also the time any love for Freeman was gone as well. Agree with CF3 about the Mizzou game '07. It was such a weird game, and people cheering for Mizzou after the game to beat ku, worse way to start my freshman year.

probably the most low self esteem moment in KSU fan base history
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: MakeItRain on October 14, 2016, 05:38:21 PM
Anybody listen to the LHC LHC Bill Snyder Show last night?
His memory is getting the best of him unless he said the following purposely but why he would do that I'm not sure. Anyway, he was asked by a caller:  what were some of his most memorable wins here and he said the first win vs. Northern Iowa and then the Big 12 Championship game in '97 or '98, he couldn't seem to remember which of those two seasons, both wrong of course, that win occurred vs. #1 OU. I think it's a combination of his age and corresponding memory loss beginning to set in and two, he's not one to reflect on the past, which could make it harder to remember specific dates or who you beat in your first victory here.

Northern Iowa (loss to Terry Allen) was his first home game, I noted on one of his weekly teleconfrences (a Monday) he referred to Charles Jones as "JJ" twice, this happens and it's not fun. My dad went through the same thing at the same age, gotta hunch this season is it for Coach Snydes

It's entirely possible he took it as most memorable games or most memorable losses and just misheard the question. JJ could also be a nickname for Charles Jones among teammates/coaches that we aren't aware of.

They call him CJ
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: catastrophe on October 14, 2016, 05:39:50 PM
That makes more sense.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: Skipper44 on October 14, 2016, 09:13:09 PM
Prince's initial staff was great.

It included an NFL hc as a coordinator and a successfulish college coach as the other coordinator.  Compared to now it would be a huge upgrade.

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Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: Skipper44 on October 14, 2016, 09:22:02 PM
Anybody listen to the LHC LHC LHC Bill Snyder Show last night?
His memory is getting the best of him unless he said the following purposely but why he would do that I'm not sure. Anyway, he was asked by a caller:  what were some of his most memorable wins here and he said the first win vs. Northern Iowa and then the Big 12 Championship game in '97 or '98, he couldn't seem to remember which of those two seasons, both wrong of course, that win occurred vs. #1 OU. I think it's a combination of his age and corresponding memory loss beginning to set in and two, he's not one to reflect on the past, which could make it harder to remember specific dates or who you beat in your first victory here.

Northern Iowa (loss to Terry Allen) was his first home game, I noted on one of his weekly teleconfrences (a Monday) he referred to Charles Jones as "JJ" twice, this happens and it's not fun. My dad went through the same thing at the same age, gotta hunch this season is it for Coach Snydes

It's entirely possible he took it as most memorable games or most memorable losses and just misheard the question. JJ could also be a nickname for Charles Jones among teammates/coaches that we aren't aware of.

They call him CJ
maybe it should be a debate of Jones v Smith instead of Hickson? 

But we both know neither belongs in a comparison with JJ
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: ELL3 on October 14, 2016, 10:21:14 PM
JJ is a high school coach in  Louisiana, good dude
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: That_Guy on October 14, 2016, 10:52:48 PM
JJ is a high school coach in  Louisiana, good dude

Another one from his staff is a head coach at some small-time Oklahoma college.


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Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: michigancat on October 14, 2016, 11:08:13 PM
Prince's initial staff was great.

It included an NFL hc as a coordinator and a successfulish college coach as the other coordinator.  Compared to now it would be a huge upgrade.

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Rex Ryan
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: Skipper44 on October 14, 2016, 11:27:36 PM
Prince's initial staff was great.

It included an NFL hc as a coordinator and a successfulish college coach as the other coordinator.  Compared to now it would be a huge upgrade.

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i am 99.9% sure Raheem is the only former Kstate coach to ever be a head coach in the National  Football League
Rex Ryan
did Rex actually ever step foot in MHK? I don't think he counts
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: wetwillie on October 14, 2016, 11:44:39 PM
Prince's initial staff was great.

It included an NFL hc as a coordinator and a successfulish college coach as the other coordinator.  Compared to now it would be a huge upgrade.

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i am 99.9% sure Raheem is the only former Kstate coach to ever be a head coach in the National  Football League
Rex Ryan
did Rex actually ever step foot in MHK? I don't think he counts

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Ryan served as defensive coordinator at Kansas State for a month in 1999 under head coach LHC Bill Snyder.[15]


Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: DHCM on October 15, 2016, 08:18:17 AM
Prince's initial staff was great.

It included an NFL hc as a coordinator and a successfulish college coach as the other coordinator.  Compared to now it would be a huge upgrade.

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Dave McGinnis
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: catastrophe on October 15, 2016, 08:57:50 AM
Thanks for that factoid, DHCM (Dave head coach McGinnis).
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: MakeItRain on October 15, 2016, 02:46:57 PM
Snyder was a complete Richard to a reporter in the postgame, I'd love to know what the question was and the reporter was who asked it. Snyder's answer was a snarling "because they read your articles." What reporter in our pillowy soft media contingent would merit a response like that?
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: The Big Train on October 15, 2016, 02:49:11 PM
Snyder was a complete Richard to a reporter in the postgame, I'd love to know what the question was and the reporter was who asked it. Snyder's answer was a snarling "because they read your articles." What reporter in our pillowy soft media contingent would merit a response like that?

https://twitter.com/kellisrobinett/status/787375068892520448
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: CNS on October 15, 2016, 02:54:02 PM
Kellis has his bulletin board material now.  Watch out for him next week, Bill.

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Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: MakeItRain on October 15, 2016, 02:55:43 PM
What in the world? Snyder has to have the most media friendly contingency in all of college football, what has Kellis written to make him so sensitive?
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: renocat on October 15, 2016, 03:03:07 PM
What in the world? Snyder has to have the most media friendly contingency in all of college football, what has Kellis written to make him so sensitive?
Sean will not be the next HC?
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: slackcat on October 15, 2016, 03:08:33 PM
So done with the old man.
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: CNS on October 15, 2016, 03:18:59 PM
Unreasonable outbursts of anger is a sign of alzheimers

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Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: Karlen on October 15, 2016, 03:31:33 PM
Did he snap in the post game presser again? Old Snyder doesn't like being challenged at all
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 15, 2016, 03:38:34 PM
Unreasonable outbursts of anger is a sign of alzheimers

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actually that's dementia..they get confused and lash out
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: CNS on October 15, 2016, 03:39:52 PM
Oh, ok, Nvm then

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Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 15, 2016, 03:43:39 PM
Oh, ok, Nvm then

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had an uncle who got it.  ugly stuff.  had to put him down
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: CNS on October 15, 2016, 03:46:00 PM
Sorry to hear, DD.  Had the same with a family member.  She still coached her football team even after she couldn't recognize her own kids.  Had to end it at 199 career wins, too.  The worst.

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Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 15, 2016, 03:54:00 PM
Sorry to hear, DD.  Had the same with a family member.  She still coached her football team even after she couldn't recognize her own kids.  Had to end it at 199 career wins, too.  The worst.

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my uncle was pretending to work super late by leaving his car in the parking lot and having his wife drive him home.  It fooled some of his idiot friends but anyone who was smart realized it was a pretty sorry move
Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: CNS on October 15, 2016, 04:04:31 PM
Pretty crafty old guy!

Grandma always had us take care of all the work around her house, then when #family came over, she acted like she did it all.  No one caught on though, even when my aunt always aked why my grandma wouldn't make roast for dinner (my aunts fav), and grandma would simply say, "I agree, I should be making roast more often", or "I don't know why I am not making roast more often ". 

Pretty weird.

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Title: Re: Snyder Things
Post by: kslim on October 15, 2016, 04:07:40 PM
roast just needed to learn the cook book, a real sad story